What's the Best Cheese for NY-Style Pizza?

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • This is Episode 3 of my quest to recreate the ultimate New York pizza slice at home. You can watch the full series here:
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    0:00 - The Most Important Factor
    0:31 - Narrowing Down My Options
    0:43 - A VERY Important Decision
    2:10 - Finding a Better Alternative
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    5:23 - Improving the Flavor
    6:30 - The Final Decision
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 368

  • @CharlieAndersonCooking
    @CharlieAndersonCooking  Рік тому +5

    Thanks for watching! To catch up on previous episodes of the series, click here!
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    • @joepaz9529
      @joepaz9529 5 місяців тому

      I'm not sure if you've tried this, but I grate my cheese ahead of time, then place it in a bowl, cover it and freeze it. It doesn't do away with the problem completely, but it definitely helps. And since I'm making my dough 1-3 days ahead of time, I just grate the cheese on the same day I make the dough, that way, on the day of cooking, it's one less thing to think about.

    • @DJSpecialSauce
      @DJSpecialSauce 4 місяці тому

      Charlie, have you tried the 50/50 method? 50% Mozz 50% Provalone. Mozz has almost no flavor but has great melting quality. The Provalone adds flavor. Also, yes to the grated Peccorinio Romano for base.

  • @chefjeffweiss
    @chefjeffweiss Рік тому +102

    A lot of pizza shops don't grate the cheese--instead, the cheese is cut into little cubes. With pizza programs I've developed, that will greatly impact the amount of grease loss as the cheese melts slower in cube form. Great videos, keep it up!

    • @felixfeliyfeliz
      @felixfeliyfeliz Рік тому +1

      game changing

    • @truenorth2653
      @truenorth2653 Рік тому +3

      Interesting. Then also wouldn't the temperature of the cheese matter as well?
      Something straight out of the fridge or even freezer may melt , without separating/ obviously depending on cooking temp and method. LMAO - such a deep rabbit hole.

    • @chefjeffweiss
      @chefjeffweiss Рік тому +1

      @@truenorth2653 1000%. It's all part of this multi-variable equation... dowwwwwn the rabbit hole we go!😅
      It's important to keep in mind, however, that at some point Occam's razor needs to be brought into the convo.

    • @puntabachata
      @puntabachata Рік тому +3

      ...and cold, like butter for baking croissants. That's how the good ones come out non greasy.

    • @nickr9784
      @nickr9784 Рік тому

      Would the cubed cheese have the anti caking ingredients?

  • @retrocny5625
    @retrocny5625 Рік тому +35

    I know you touched on it a bit here but I'll go from my experience working in multiple NY Pizzerias now,...all of them used Grande brand whole milk mozz, not part skim and not any "blends". They bought cases of the 7lb bricks, and shredded it themselves. The pre-shredded stuff is a bit more finely shredded, smaller pieces. We shredded it into bigger pieces, we thought it melted better and gave better distribution on the finished pizza. None of the places diced it into small pieces, although I know that's a popular method too now. Grande is a pretty iconic brand here for NY pizza, though yes it's hard to get outside of restaurant supply. If you've ever had NY pizza, chances are very high this was the cheese being used, extremely good quality and consistency. If we're talking low moisture mozz that is.
    As far as sauce goes, majority of places I worked used Stanislaus brand tomatoes. The two products from them I'm most familiar with are their "Full Red" pizza sauce, or the "Alta Cucina" whole peeled plum tomatoes. Those were the bases we worked with depending on the type of pizza. If we were cooking tomato/grandma style pies, we used a chunkier sauce, if it was regular round pies, we used a normal pizza sauce. Again, Stanislaus is more of a restaurant supply only product. You can find places to order it online though, just like with Grande cheese.
    Hope any of this info helps you on your pizza journey. 3 of the 4 places I worked at are still around and scored in the 8's on the onebite app. I don't live in downstate NY anymore so unfortunately it's been a minute since I've had great pizza.

    • @talhasiddiqui1110
      @talhasiddiqui1110 Рік тому

      Yep. His pizzas look greasy because of the fine shredd themselves

    • @jeffgulla1399
      @jeffgulla1399 Рік тому +2

      Started as a Long Island pizzilolo in 69’, we used Grande WM Mozzy but 75% and WM Domestic Provolone 20% and Domestic Swiss 5%, we only used 1/4”cubed, and Stany Sauces too, never pre cooked, we won best NY Pizza 16 years in a row til we lost our lease in 83’, no matter what anyone says, it is the water!!!

    • @jeffgulla1399
      @jeffgulla1399 Рік тому

      You sir know NY Pizza

  • @alexb0wman
    @alexb0wman Рік тому +27

    After making thousands of these over the years, the one secret you're looking for is consistency. If there are any thin spots in the dough, the pizza cooks unevenly. It affects the taste massively. Try making pizzas of different sizes. 16" 18" and 20". To get the best consistency, weigh each dough ball to exactly 1.5 lbs, that's what we used at our shop. Then fold the dough over onto itself and pinch it off so one side is perfectly round, put them into an oiled plastic dough tray with the perfect dome side up. They have to be sealed inside between the dough trays so they don't lose moisture or crack. Let them rise at room temperature for about 30-60 mins, then put them into the fridge. They need to sit in the fridge for a few hours until they have become a malleable consistency. Try overnight too. It will take some time to perfect this process but trust me it's so important. When you pull them out, place the dough into flour, then put the perfect side down and cut into the underside to create your crust. It's best to work on a granite or stone counter with ample flour. It will take a lot of practice to get tossing the dough down perfectly but that's the key! Best of luck!

  • @MrGrimlocke
    @MrGrimlocke Рік тому +106

    This series of watching you trying to perfect your pizza recipe has been really interesting. It's satisfying to watch you get closer and closer to your goal

    • @CharlieAndersonCooking
      @CharlieAndersonCooking  Рік тому +12

      I'm glad you're enjoying it! It's been fun to make too.

    • @redhatwoodworker9795
      @redhatwoodworker9795 Рік тому +3

      I find myself wondering how many pizzas you’ve baked. I hope you’re keeping track because that would be a fun reveal at the end of the series.

    • @alexbrooks6435
      @alexbrooks6435 Рік тому +1

      I would be so fat if I tried perfecting my own pizza like Charlie. If there's pizza in front of me I'm eating it. Even bad pizza.

  • @Flussig1
    @Flussig1 Рік тому +19

    It's quite remarkable just how many of us out there are equally (almost) as obsessed with the perfect NY slice. Thank you Charlie, I'm following closely.

  • @MikeTaffet
    @MikeTaffet Рік тому +11

    One way to make sure your pizza doesn’t come out too greasy: don’t add any olive oil to your tomato sauce.
    I literally just use canned whole peeled tomatoes, which I blend in the can, and add a couple herbs and spices (like chili flakes).
    Salt comes from the parmigiana that I put over the sauce, and all the fat comes from the whole milk cheese. You can also add some chunks of fresh mozzarella for hits of extra creaminess

  • @alexill
    @alexill Рік тому +31

    Great content. I think you’ll find (if you haven’t already) that a hotter temp with less overall time in the oven will keep the cheese from splitting, which results in less greasiness.
    A good way to reduce the cheese from splitting is to cube it with a knife instead of shredding it. Also keep the cheese ice cold. This slows down the overall time it takes for the cheese to melt and further prevents it from splitting while the pizza bakes.

    • @jonathansharret4900
      @jonathansharret4900 Рік тому +4

      This 100%. A restaurant oven is significantly hotter than a home oven so they can cook the pizza super fast and the cheese will not have time to separate it seems. The longer cook time of a home oven leads to the cheese separating. When I make pizza at home on a steel I keep my cheese frozen (I do a 50/50 mix) with grated on pecorino and the cheese comes out really well and doesn't separate.

  • @esnide22
    @esnide22 Рік тому +33

    the production and thoroughness of these videos are really incredible, your channel's gonna be huge in no time

    • @redhatwoodworker9795
      @redhatwoodworker9795 Рік тому +1

      Totally agree! This is really good and he’s gonna be big if he keeps it up.

  • @maxxblayze
    @maxxblayze Рік тому +16

    Once you’re done we need a full final recipe video that breaks down making a full pizza from scratch please.

  • @BamBam_PDX
    @BamBam_PDX Рік тому +4

    The best NY style pizza I ever had used a combo of whole milk low moisture mozzarella and provolone.

  • @suchnerve
    @suchnerve Рік тому +8

    I’m surprised your channel isn’t huge. The production quality, the way you deliver information, your attitude, it’s all A+. Subscribed! ❤️

  • @KristoferFelton
    @KristoferFelton Рік тому +2

    This is the best series on NY Style Pizza on the internet. I've been looking forward to this video for weeks. Thank you!

  • @blublum7916
    @blublum7916 Рік тому +18

    I've loved this series! Everything is so well done! I subbed on part 2 and can't wait for part 4.

  • @pdenigma9444
    @pdenigma9444 Рік тому +2

    When watching this I thought I was watching a big UA-cam channel. I'd say your quality is definitely on par with those guys, keep it up and you will grow in no time!

  • @FinesseBTW
    @FinesseBTW Рік тому +1

    With the grease, you will get less by not grating the cheese. Instead, cut it into small chunks. These melt slower and thus take longer to squeeze out their grease. Adam Ragusea does this with the string cheese by cutting them width-wise into rounds rather than grating them

  • @hanonyammouri9853
    @hanonyammouri9853 Рік тому +4

    This is truly a great video series. Love your attention to detail and thought process through the decision making. Loving this channel so far!

  • @lolgod1695
    @lolgod1695 Рік тому +1

    Loving this series! The pacing, editing, music, and filmmaking are all spot-on!

  • @truffelnootje
    @truffelnootje Рік тому +2

    This is becoming an internet crusade to the promised home pizza!
    So glad to tune in on al this knowledge, and happy to know there are so many eho are serious about this for at home!

  • @pingustofu
    @pingustofu Рік тому +5

    I've noticed that I don't get the cripsy bite with bread or AP flour so I picked up some 00 flour that I found at the store. I had a real italian tell me it makes a big difference so I'm excited to see how it affects it

  • @erikhartwig6366
    @erikhartwig6366 Рік тому +1

    this series of videos is awesome! The great video editing skills and your passion and curiosity for the perfect at home slice is captivating

  • @SimplyPsyke
    @SimplyPsyke Рік тому +2

    Super invested in this series. Thanks for the great content.

  • @mtfotografy
    @mtfotografy Рік тому +4

    Another great addition to this series. I will say, my best experience has been buying 1-2 pounds of full fat mozzarella from the deli counter of my local grocery store, it usually ends up being Boar Head or another brand and ends up working great. Just ask them not to slice it and then shred it when you get home.

  • @DoozyyTV
    @DoozyyTV Рік тому +2

    Tip: If where you live they don't sell low moisture mozzarella you can make your own by microwaving fresh mozzarella. When you do this it immediately releases a load of liquid, just massage it until the liquid stops coming out and then put it in some kind of shape and let it get hard in the fridge. Don't over-do the microwaving tho.

  • @zigmeisterxiv
    @zigmeisterxiv Рік тому +1

    First time watcher ... big Scarr's fan. In the mid 60's NY pizzerias pretty much all used cheese that looked like turds, not grated or shaved. This was achieved by, I believe, passing the mozzarella or cheese blend through a grinder, which should aerate the cheese. I've done this with my Panasonic meat grinder and comes out great. I know that's not what happens now but try it.

  • @thomascataldo1973
    @thomascataldo1973 Рік тому +2

    I use a steel baking sheet but I assemble the pizza on a piece of parchment paper that is slightly greased with olive oil. This makes it easy to slide into the oven and it also makes the bottom have a perfect crispiness without burning. I also do not need to use any flour when assembling the pizza on the parchment paper so better for beginners (like me!)

  • @Grayald
    @Grayald Рік тому +1

    Great series and I hope it ends up with positive results. Really looking forward to the next episode. Eagerly awaiting the next episode. Baking method is exactly what I need.

  • @TheBenghaziRabbit
    @TheBenghaziRabbit Рік тому +2

    Man out here in Delaware, trying to find WMLM Mozz is SUCH A PAIN. Every local store didnt have it so had to run across the bridge to Jersey to grab some.

  • @OscarOliu
    @OscarOliu Рік тому +7

    The little Caesars uses muenster in it's cheese mix and honestly we've added it to our home made pizzas and it's definitely a great addition in flavour. We use mozzarella and muenster about 20% muenster

  • @Demasx
    @Demasx Рік тому +2

    I've been enjoying your series, and thanks for the Black Friday heads up!

  • @chrissandoval7675
    @chrissandoval7675 Рік тому

    just appreciating your dedication and the method.

  • @josephsaroce4991
    @josephsaroce4991 Рік тому

    Excellent stuff..great series, well done!!

  • @joetacchino4470
    @joetacchino4470 Рік тому +1

    Yellow grease on a pizza from separated cheese is quite authentic NY!

  • @CraigMaiman
    @CraigMaiman Рік тому +1

    Great series! Can you post your final full recipe? Sauce, Dough, and Cheese. Anxious to try it.

  • @SJCHomeVideos-df1fo
    @SJCHomeVideos-df1fo 3 місяці тому

    Love this entire series of videos!

  • @ryanbradford3315
    @ryanbradford3315 Рік тому

    This series is carrying my homemade pizza making. Can’t wait for the baking and sauce episodes!

  • @truenorth2653
    @truenorth2653 Рік тому +1

    Alright Kid.
    You got me hooked and invested in this journey.
    I like your style.
    Til next time.
    👌

  • @ericwessel6511
    @ericwessel6511 Рік тому +4

    Really loving this series so far, the overall production and content are incredible and the videos are laid out really well. I’m really excited to see it all come together, are you planning on making a video at the end that contains all of the steps fully laid out?

  • @harmonygaleria6311
    @harmonygaleria6311 Рік тому

    I really hope your channel blows up my friend. Very good content🤟🏼!

  • @frogmccuish
    @frogmccuish Рік тому

    Wow! Just found your channel, subbed right away, going back to watch more and can't wait for future episodes! Very well done!

  • @ducksarecool3
    @ducksarecool3 Рік тому

    This may be the most important youtube series of all time. If we can make a NY slice at home, man, that would be life changing.

  • @fleekwoodmac3705
    @fleekwoodmac3705 Рік тому +1

    You, sir, have just earned a subscriber. I'll be making the final pizza when this series concludes.

  • @proreview3153
    @proreview3153 Рік тому +1

    Great videos. Congrats dude, the algo picked it up. You’re gonna get huge.

  • @mohr4less
    @mohr4less Рік тому +1

    Dude this series is insane. So good. Keep it up!

  • @sqrboro
    @sqrboro Рік тому

    HECK YES. I just stumbled upon your channel earlier today and watched the pizza vids. You said "I'm doing cheese next" and I looked, and the video wasn't there yet. But I subscribed, refreshed my feed just now, AND THERE IT IS! :D

  • @jascadet
    @jascadet Рік тому

    I just have to thank you for doing all this research and work so I won't have to. Looking forward to your next video!

  • @frankvehafric5062
    @frankvehafric5062 Рік тому +1

    I honestly have never minded some excess oil on a NY slice, since I prefer it with pepperoni anyway, and oil is part of the deal. What I need is the NY cheese flavor and in my strictly amateur dabbler opinion, the best flavor is Romano forward. I love the Romano.

  • @matty051
    @matty051 Рік тому +1

    Good info, love the deep dive into the part skim cheese especially. I’ve seen some recipes (maybe Kenji?) that freeze the shredded whole milk mozz so that it melts a little slower to mimic the fact that home oven pizza will (almost) always take longer to cook than pizzeria pizza.

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve Рік тому

    These videos are so good dude, I'm finally inspired to give pizza a shot. I spent months making wings every day until I felt like I perfected it, time to move on to the main course.

  • @CGagnon5
    @CGagnon5 Рік тому

    I’ve used Kraft cheese sticks multiple times in a pinch for they exact reason. Awesome to see it represented in the video

  • @josh6381
    @josh6381 Рік тому +1

    I've been doing a lot of the same tests that you have over the last year. I'm having good luck on keeping the cheese fat separation down by getting the pizza as low in the oven as I can, and shaving off a minute or two of cook time, or a couple of degrees lower for the temp.

  • @4T4T.
    @4T4T. Рік тому

    You are very underrated for these videos. i love em have a goodone!

  • @Wtahc
    @Wtahc Рік тому

    ur channe is SOOOOOOOOO GOOD ITS SO ADDICTING NEVER STOP MAKING VIDEOS

  • @brittondurham88
    @brittondurham88 Рік тому

    Love this series! I’m going to try to do exactly what you’re doing. Could you post your ideal dough recipe instead of using the percentages.

  • @contrabardus
    @contrabardus Рік тому +1

    Use the fine grater to powder your Pecorino and Parmesan and do a 50/50 blend. Just enough to dust over the sauce.
    This is how the owner of the local NY Pizza place does it, and I'm told it's how most NY places do it.
    This isn't in NY, but my buddy grew up in the Bronx, and uses Grande cheese for his pies. I've also been to NY and had authentic slices on multiple occasions, and can indeed confirm he's legit and does his pies right.

  • @dhkim3986
    @dhkim3986 Рік тому

    Insanely thorough!

  • @testingapril
    @testingapril Рік тому

    I use the galbani whole milk low moisture string cheeses Adam showed in his video. They work well. I shred the cheese and put it in a stainless steel bowl in the freezer for 15-20 minutes to slow the melting since I have to leave it in my home oven longer than a real pizzeria would. I don't usually get the splitting you show, so I think the freezing must help in that regard. Great video!

  • @pi-sx3mb
    @pi-sx3mb Рік тому +1

    I delivered for Dominos back in the '70's and I don't remember too much, but I know our cheese was a mixture of mozzarella and cheddar. I haven't order Dominos in decades but believe it or not back then it was actually really good! Not NYC pizza good, but different good. Of course I also worked at McDonalds before that and the food there wasn't going to win any awards, but it was cooked on an actual griddle and was WAY better than the garbage they have today. In fact, pretty much everything tasted better back then...

  • @royal_kira7184
    @royal_kira7184 Рік тому +1

    This series has me captivated - and hungry! I have not anticipated the next episode of something this much since Season 1 of LOST!
    🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕
    Season 2: The Gluten Free NY Slice
    Nah, Season 2 should be how to get the edges of the pepperoni to crisp up at home!
    Keep up the great work! Your videos look great and you are keeping everything accessible for real folks, love that!

  • @TheShaner
    @TheShaner Рік тому

    I have been on my own quest to perfect the pizza for the last 10 years or so, if not longer. I am really enjoying watching your quest to do so as well and look forward to seeing your progress and see how you handle some of the challenges. I do agree with one of the comments below, the hotter and faster you can cook this, the less greasy it will be. My oven gets up to 550, and cooks pretty fast with a preheated steel, which seems to do the trick.

  • @kool7944
    @kool7944 Рік тому +5

    i made your dough 2 hours ago! hoping for some nice pies monday, i went to the store but couldnt find ANY whole low moisture moz so seeing i can use cheese sticks is an interesting solution!

    • @CharlieAndersonCooking
      @CharlieAndersonCooking  Рік тому +2

      Yeah it’s hard to find! At this point, I think I’ve been to 16 different groceries stores in my area, and only found 9 different WMLM mozzarellas. Only 4 of which I would consider to be decent quality (GFS, Kraft cheese sticks, Grande, and one from a local market here in Cleveland)

    • @KingOfKYA
      @KingOfKYA Рік тому

      @@CharlieAndersonCooking One alternative to also look at is the spanish cheeses, in my experience you can find them more easily. "Nochebuena Queso Fresco," to me it has a bit better flavor that motz but an ok melty ness (maybe mix it). And you can generally get the different fan levels.

    • @Kal-El207
      @Kal-El207 Рік тому

      @@CharlieAndersonCooking I knew you was from Ohio bro. I live here too. Obsessed with pizza but I’m from the east coast, you guys don’t have it a lot out here, but seeing your videos changes my mind a bit.

  • @Studiovette
    @Studiovette Рік тому

    I used sliced mozzarella both part skim and whole, that also reduced the cheese from splitting and over melting. With the sliced cheese you can also do upside down pies cheese first sauce on top. Both work well.

  • @adamwasserman4934
    @adamwasserman4934 Рік тому +1

    Back in days of old one of the key distinguishing characteristics of an authentic New York slice was the pool of molten oil floating over the surface of it, so that when you folded it, the oil would run into the funnel created by the fold, and would then either trickle down your arm giving you 2nd degree burns, or - if you were alert enough - drip off the tip on the the sidewalk where it burned a hole on the concrete.
    In other words: separation is where it's at baby.

    • @pi-sx3mb
      @pi-sx3mb Рік тому

      LOL, heck yeah! It wasn't real NYC pizza if you couldn't do the crisp fold-in-half thing with the oil dripping out of the crease and then lose a layer of flesh inside your mouth from the molten lava burn!

  • @MiG-21bisFishbedL
    @MiG-21bisFishbedL Рік тому

    Bro, this is great, I'm gonna up my Pizza game next time I make it! Great job.

  • @quinncone
    @quinncone Рік тому +3

    I was just thinking about how I needed a baking steel!

    • @CharlieAndersonCooking
      @CharlieAndersonCooking  Рік тому +3

      Yeah it makes a big difference! I’m planning to talk more about them in a future video, but I think they’re basically essential for achieving a proper result in a home oven.

    • @quinncone
      @quinncone Рік тому +1

      @@CharlieAndersonCooking I've been trying to do it with a Pizza Stone, and it just isn't working. Even letting the stone preheat for an hour (after the oven takes 45m to reach temp), the bottom of the pizza doesn't even brown. Additionally, it's really hard to slide a large pizza onto a stone that's basically the same size as the pizza. I lose ingredients, and if I don't have something to catch them they land on the bottom of the oven and catch on fire.
      I snagged a steel using your link; I can't wait to try it!

  • @FXPips11
    @FXPips11 10 місяців тому

    Perfect, i needed this video

  • @peteozols22
    @peteozols22 Рік тому

    I hope you do a video on your sauce. Keep em coming!

  • @raf_underscore
    @raf_underscore Рік тому +1

    Was looking forward to this :D

  • @Zilch129
    @Zilch129 Рік тому +2

    Finally! Been waiting hahaha

  • @makeitpay8241
    @makeitpay8241 Рік тому +1

    we always blended part skim and whole milk Grande together. it wasn't 50 / 50 either perhaps 60/40 or 40/60 it's been 30 years but the pizza was some of the best i have ever had & i have been to a lot of pizza places around the country due to traveling for work.

  • @1dgram
    @1dgram Рік тому +10

    Someone with access to university laboratories: We need you to analyze the cheese mix on Scar's pizza and tell us what three cheeses they use.

    • @CharlieAndersonCooking
      @CharlieAndersonCooking  Рік тому +5

      I've actually made it to Scarr's since filming this video, and I have some ideas but need to do more testing. I do think for the classic, "authentic" New York slice though, mozzarella is the clear choice. Scarr's cheese seems to have a slightly different flavor than most (although I did really like it).

    • @jojotwice8918
      @jojotwice8918 Рік тому +1

      @@CharlieAndersonCooking scarr's taste different from the classic nyc slice

    • @jaycee_baron
      @jaycee_baron Рік тому

      Pizza in the Northeastern states in general in the '60s, '70s, and '80s often used non-smoked provolone as well, so try that, and also experiment with brick cheese and swiss, as pizzerias back then usually also served sandwiches that used those cheeses.

  • @sgfuzz5465
    @sgfuzz5465 5 місяців тому

    Charlie, thanks so much for putting these videos together, great stuff!
    Since there’s no place near me (Northern Virginia) where I can get Grande Cheese, Giant supermarkets carry a 16 oz chunk of Galbani whole milk, low moisture mozzarella and it works great as a back-up option - surprisingly great flavor IMO.

  • @hatchhonda19
    @hatchhonda19 Рік тому +1

    To reduce the fat/grease in the finished pizza allow the chesse to come up to room temp before baking....the protiens and fats melt at diffrent temps: allowing the chesse to warm up before baking helps them from separating

  • @canadave
    @canadave Рік тому

    Charlie, I'm enjoying watching this. I grew up across the street from Joe's Pizza in NYC, back when Giuseppe himself was actually still making the pizzas (in the 1980s). It's too bad, the Joe's pizza today is nothing like it was back then, when it was absolutely incredible. Joe's today honestly is nothing all that special as far as regular NY street pizzerias go, they're riding on their reputation a little bit (they became popular because of Giuseppe's skill and also the fact they fed hordes of hungry NYU students at 3am).
    I live in Canada now, but I still make NY-style pizzas. If you ever want some notes about true NY pizza, I'm happy to oblige :) I've been a bit of a student of it myself since moving to Canada, to try to recreate the great pizzas I remember from when I was a kid (Joe's, Golden's, Ben's, Pizza Box, etc). You're definitely on the right track with what you're doing!

  • @AnteMicko
    @AnteMicko Рік тому +2

    If you look for Vito Iacopelli's video on UA-cam where he is at Joe's Pizza, you can see how Joe's makes their dough.
    It's not the NY Joe's, though the guy was married to his daughter, and allegedly took their recipe with him.
    I hope that helps you!

  • @bentisdale2474
    @bentisdale2474 Рік тому +1

    Grande 100% whole milk is the way to go. Also, Boar's Head from the deli counter is very good and widely available. BTW, NYC pizza is inherently a little greasy. Especially when you go with pepperonis. I wouldn't focus too much on that aspect if I were you.

  • @briantoreador3570
    @briantoreador3570 Рік тому

    I'm digging these videos. You live so close to me I wish I could come try that pizza XD

  • @jamestroy34
    @jamestroy34 Рік тому +2

    I only use whole milk mozzarella. It can burn faster than part skim, but we’re going for flavor! And if u want a tangy flavor, you need to add some sharp cheddar. Try seriously sharp by Cabot’s

  • @Robbie_221B
    @Robbie_221B Рік тому

    My personal trick to reduce greasiness personally is to freeze the shredded cheese for a long time and keep it in there up until Jat before putting it into the oven. Keeping it as cold as possible up front seems to slow down grease seperation in my end. I lsontry to keep the shreds as thick as I can, again slowing down how much it heats up since larger chunks melt slower than smaller.

  • @drderail
    @drderail Рік тому +1

    Just an FYI, I don't know if a lot of NY syle pizza places do this but I know pizzerias that mix provolone into he mozzarella to cut down on the greasiness.

  • @rickyb2112
    @rickyb2112 Рік тому

    Great video. Just an FYI, I use a blend of Boars Head Low Moisture Whole Milk Mozzarella, Boars Head Non-Smoked Picante Provolone, and Boars Head Monterey Jack. I ask them to just cut off a 1 inch thick hunk of each at the deli counter and shred them at home. It's a fantastic blend and doesnt burn like the Polly-O at 550.

  • @sharpreflectionsdetailing7265

    Looking forward to the next one

  • @uberbae
    @uberbae Рік тому

    Love the info! I had hoped you would follow up on your dough video with which percentages you finally landed on.
    Also have you experimented with a poolish/biga?

  • @unstoppabledoris
    @unstoppabledoris Рік тому

    My husband and I feel like we have found the perfect pizza for us. I love comparing our decisions on pizza to your findings

  • @b2th3m1th
    @b2th3m1th 6 місяців тому

    here on the west coast, there is a store called winco, its doesnt have high end products but their store named mozz, is low moisture whole milk mozz and it's actually pretty effing good for home pizzas.I've been using it for mine and until watching these videos did i realize how lucky i am on the west coast to find a low moisture whole milk mozz. Now to find good canned tomatoes.

  • @jmal5390
    @jmal5390 Рік тому

    Perhaps someone already mentioned this, but you can buy whole milk, low moisture mozzarella at the deli meat counter of most grocery stores. It's less expensive than the prepackaged brands, and you can buy any size block you wish; you are not limited to the sizes in plastic wrap. Boar"s Head brand is ubiquitous throughout the country.

  • @kevinhullinger8743
    @kevinhullinger8743 Рік тому +1

    The cheese I found that works best for me with low moisture mozzarella is Monterey Jack.

  • @bolson081
    @bolson081 Рік тому

    Just found the channel. Awesome videos and content! I love the scientific breakdowns and various adjustments you take to get towards the goal. Just wondering if there is a perfect ratio of sauce and cheese per size of the pizza. I fail to get that light orange look when my pizza finishes in the oven. Any suggestions?

  • @santaclaus2115
    @santaclaus2115 Рік тому +8

    It's amazing to me how different the Grande mix looked to me. There were basically no pockets and it didn't look greasy. It actually looked like something I could get from a New York pizzeria. I'm so curious if it could potentially come down to not using too much cheese, or if it's the fact that this was the only pre-shredded mozz Charlie used. Usually pre-shredded cheese is bad because of the anti-caking agents, as Charlie mentioned. But what if one of those anti-caking agents, such as corn starch, helps keep the cheese fats from separating? Maybe it causes the cheese to emulsify with the tomato sauce? Or perhaps this cheese was just of a different quality (not necessarily better, but different). It certainly looked low moisture, but had almost a cheese curd appearance to it, like it was very fresh. Anyway, these are my thoughts on the end of this video and I've really been enjoying this series. Thank you Charlie!

    • @CharlieAndersonCooking
      @CharlieAndersonCooking  Рік тому +5

      Yeah it did look different on camera here, although I think that was mostly because I had filmed those clips more recently, so I was using a slightly different baking method and I was also using more cheese than I was using before.
      I’ve found that most of the time, the grande cheese looks pretty similar to the other cheeses. Like I said though, I do still think it’s the best one I’ve tried! I’d be very curious to try the whole milk version though because if the east coast blend is this good, I think the whole milk version would be perfect. I may have to try harder to get some before this series is over haha.

    • @esatvinca9845
      @esatvinca9845 Рік тому

      I think that grande cheese makes the pizza taste good. Is that what they use in NY pizza

    • @amcoolio
      @amcoolio Рік тому

      I use Grande 50/50 part skim/whole milk low moisture shredded for my pizzas, its the best cheese I can find. Its not in grocery stores though, I get it through my foodservice for my restaurant. Grande doesn't add any additives to their shredded cheese, so it melts a lot better. Most grocery store shredded cheeses add starch so the cheese doesn't stick together

  • @MontiusPontius
    @MontiusPontius Рік тому +1

    Loving the videos

  • @deanevangelista6359
    @deanevangelista6359 Рік тому +1

    I’ve had good results with Galbani’s and Trader Joe’s LMWM mozzarella. I suspect they may be the same product. I’ve been tempted to try the Boars Head, but it costs twice as much as the former. I also add either Parm or Pecorino.

  • @robertferguson8174
    @robertferguson8174 Рік тому

    When you grated mozzarella you should use a electric grater attached to a mixer and put a bit of pressure on the cheese to get a nice thick grate.

  • @deepspace9043
    @deepspace9043 Рік тому

    A brand that was historically used in New Haven that I love is Calabro. Try their whole milk low moisture mozzarella - my favorite that I've tried!

  • @mikeoxsor6183
    @mikeoxsor6183 4 місяці тому

    You can always wait to put the cheese on the pizza for a couple minutes, maybe 2-3 with nothing but just the base in the oven, then take it out and put the toppings on. You can also put the sauce on top of the dough and bake it like that if you want a different flavour.

  • @alexb0wman
    @alexb0wman Рік тому

    I made NY style pizza in upstate NY for years. Grande 1000%

  • @dyna_zero0385
    @dyna_zero0385 Рік тому

    I worked in a pretty busy and local well known family owned pizzeria in my high school days back in the early 80’s here in NJ. We used Polly-o’s hole milk low moisture mozzarella.

  • @yellowmoleproductionss3271
    @yellowmoleproductionss3271 Рік тому

    Great series! Is the sauce episode planned?

  • @u94llamoure
    @u94llamoure Рік тому +1

    I like a little provolone mixed in, it reminds me of Lodi Circle Pizza in NJ, but the wife and kids prefer straight mozz (they all grew up south of the Mason-Dixon). I’ve seen some chains mix in cheddar…

  • @hottubjohnnyvegas
    @hottubjohnnyvegas Рік тому

    Love the scooter! What tricks can you do?

  • @AES5967
    @AES5967 Рік тому

    Good content my dude