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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2022
  • Saw some people talk about specific changes in the aot Bluray and got motivated to make this vid
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  • @romulorafael5563
    @romulorafael5563 Рік тому +106

    People wanting a epic battle ost when Eren is killing hundred of innocents, when the show wants to portray him as a vilan💀

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +43

      Average reddit using aot fan behavior

    • @silveratlas2706
      @silveratlas2706 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ProbablyPretentiouseven worse, when Armin transformed and killed hundreds of people everyone was like "where YouSeeBIGGIRL ?" like some complete lunatics.
      They literally have no idea songs have lyrics and an appropriate tone and just want the hype music slapped in it because a similar scene had it before.

    • @soul8648
      @soul8648 7 місяців тому

      @@ProbablyPretentious fact

  • @MightbeLandon
    @MightbeLandon Рік тому +24

    Aot fans are the same people to pause the show on a imbetween and call it ban animation

  • @Yashone
    @Yashone Рік тому +45

    I've watching aot from 2018. And it's the most chill fanbase back then till 2020 came and everyone started discovering anime, watched aot, demon Slayer, jjk and that's it became animation experts.
    They completely misunderstood what author trying to say. And they won't even agree if someone says otherwise.

    • @JohnnyBoy7267
      @JohnnyBoy7267 Рік тому +3

      Dude like they won't even acknowledge the facts that were already presented and rooted within the show since the earlier seasons.. conversation with those people just gets derailed into pure nonsense.

  • @tanmay4751
    @tanmay4751 Рік тому +20

    The aot fandom on youtube is really cool in all honesty. Unfortunately the same cannot be said about the fandom for other social media platforms

  • @carloscauan7967
    @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +35

    Attack on Titan fans trying to not harass staff members for 5 seconds challenge (99% will fail)

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +16

      Attack on titan fans trying to have a stable father figure in life for 5 seconds challenge (99% will fail)

    • @LeahNaga
      @LeahNaga 3 місяці тому

      Stfu! You demon slayer fans.

  • @opie_yt
    @opie_yt Рік тому +16

    I agree that this fandom can be very toxic. But I definitely don’t think that you should be lumping these toxic people into the “vast majority” of the fanbase, because I think these toxic people are a small (albeit very loud) part of the it. It’s important to remember that toxic comments are seen so much more often, especially on platforms like Twitter, because they generate arguments. Simple positive comments like “gee I really liked this last episode” are going to fly under the radar much more than someone bitching about the animation or something because it causes people to argue back. Then they repost it and people start arguing with them, and it all just spirals out of control. I do agree that a lot of people are quick to attack others for not sharing the same opinion as they do, but like you said it’s important to distinguish between a genuine criticism and just someone being toxic. In fact I find that those who criticize aspects in a genuine and thoughtful and respectful way are the biggest fans of the series, and they genuinely want the best from it. Don’t attack people for writing fanfics or coming up with theories or headcanon if they aren’t being disrespectful about it. Even if some people take it ridiculously too far by sending death threats and stuff to actors or animators (these are the true toxic people), most people that don’t like something about AOT try and be respectful and genuine when they criticize. Like I said the truly toxic people are a loud minority. Toxic fandoms exist in some way for literally everything, but calling AOT’s fandom the absolute worst in fiction is being extremely short-sighted and quick to point the finger

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +12

      Thing about the aot fanbase is that this portion of the "loud toxic fans" compared to the normal fans are far more in number than any other show. And it creates this sort of bandwagon effect, once some people see others hating on the visuals they feel they need to have an input about the same as well, despite lacking the foundation to talk about the subject, I do feel the term "a vast majority of new aot fans" would have been more accurate

    • @kiratwo4u
      @kiratwo4u 8 місяців тому

      well fanbases that doesn't stop and allow this behavior definitely contributes to it's majority

  • @Yashone
    @Yashone Рік тому +8

    What i don't get is why can't they stop talking about it and watch other shows instead of 24/7 talking shit on a series they hate.

  • @zan4152
    @zan4152 Рік тому +6

    the thing that made me laugh the most was when a youtuber said that isayama doesn't even know his own characters and threw away all of eren's character development into the trash. like, who does this random nobody think he is?

    • @gaminginvirinch3339
      @gaminginvirinch3339 Рік тому +1

      Who do you think you are to say a youtuber like that

    • @zan4152
      @zan4152 Рік тому

      @@gaminginvirinch3339 someone not as dumb as he is

    • @il3b13
      @il3b13 8 місяців тому +2

      i mean isayama dont understand anything about his story if he do
      why we dont have a paths sex scene between armin and eren

  • @anurag4813
    @anurag4813 Рік тому

    I found your channel one day and have been binging the videos AHHAAHHA, great work

  • @userK894
    @userK894 Рік тому +9

    I wonder what will happen to these so called fans after it ended............I hope they don't shift to VS fandom just to shit on mappa or csm fandom which already becomes to much toxic

  • @navi7402
    @navi7402 Рік тому +14

    r/titanfolk trying to not talk about 139 for 5 seconds challenge

    • @Strongtower23
      @Strongtower23 Рік тому +7

      NO I DON’T WANT THAT! TITANFOLK MOVING ON!?!? I WANT THEM TO HATE ON THE ENDING FOR 10 YEARS ATLEAST!!

  • @shinkey7808
    @shinkey7808 Рік тому +5

    Dude, remember that 18 year old dude who "created" that Kaguya-sama rap ending?
    Why won't you interview him? It sounds interesting for me

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +6

      Vercreek? He's a big deal lmao, he also worked on aot, jjk, Sao and stuff I doubt I can get my hands on him lol

  • @JohnnyBoy7267
    @JohnnyBoy7267 Рік тому +4

    That Mikasa scene from two brothers is just uncensored now, it looks better to me you can see everything xDD like wtf AOT fanbase..

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +10

      Personally I prefer the previous cuz it looks more cinematic to me but who in the actual fuck cares lmao, it's still the same cut of animation, I have legitimately seen people type a thousand+ word essay on why it's bad

    • @JohnnyBoy7267
      @JohnnyBoy7267 Рік тому +4

      @@ProbablyPretentious Yes exactly, who cares.. i like the blu ray more cause it's more clean and i can see the gore and the characters she's slicing up.

  • @pcvl9637
    @pcvl9637 Рік тому +6

    🤓I just want want to retcon that Hamasaki,Hiroshi did not direct episode 25 he storyboarded and the episode was directed by Mitsue Yamazaki who directed ep 15,16,23,25,28

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +4

      The trees were part of the storyboards were they not? End of the day, he's the one who put those trees there, but yea ig you right.

  • @kushalpanchali1033
    @kushalpanchali1033 Рік тому +5

    Perfectly said , Good work as always 🙂

  • @wolfbrigade8042
    @wolfbrigade8042 Рік тому +4

    Attack on Titan fans trying not to put "YouSeeBigGirlTT" into every transformation scene ever challenge: Impossible.

  • @sarapinkdiamond866
    @sarapinkdiamond866 Рік тому +5

    I Strongly agree with this The attack on titan's fandom is crap full of cringe and toxic and stupid people

  • @red1bk190
    @red1bk190 Рік тому +6

    The One Piece fanbase is turning into the exact same thing dude. They hate Toei for every minor animation decision that differs from what they expected. I've also seen MANY one piece fans say that "Wano is terrible" then when you ask them what the flaws are, they start pointing out the most MINOR details. There is even a r/piratefolk subreddit where everyone just goes to complain lol.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +1

      Yea I've seen a few such people over on Instagram

    • @glory1950
      @glory1950 Рік тому +1

      Pacing and flashy aura are not minor flaws.

    • @Anime_man97
      @Anime_man97 Рік тому

      Auras are cool, yes a bit much in some places, but they toned it down, when i see these ungrateful one piece fans complain i just hope next arc would look like dresarossa arc to see what real bad animation and art look like

  • @shinkey7808
    @shinkey7808 Рік тому +1

    Another good video :0
    You're pretty productive tho

  • @SHG3110
    @SHG3110 Рік тому +8

    AOT fans hate their own show for having "perfect designs" ☠️

  • @changer6270
    @changer6270 Рік тому +4

    Aot fans are really toxic I have to agree , they act as if they are fans but in actuality they are not. The choice of OST which should be used for a particular scene is a subjective matter and this so called "fans " don't have a brain that The director cannot just use any OST as he wants because there are licensing issues and other things behind the scene and that music is subjective. These people have made up in their minds what should happen in the anime and if it doesn't match they show toxic behaviour( they have put AOT on such a pedestal that they get disappointed at everything). Someone may not like certain parts of the show but they should be more civilised to show their opinion. I don't like the ending of AOT manga but the toxicity within these fans I have seen because it is on another level.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +4

      Yea like, there's no way every fan would agree on a single ost to use during a scene, so someone or the other will cry about it on Twitter, there's no winning here

  • @NineTnk
    @NineTnk Рік тому +5

    Attack on Titan manga reader* you mean, I can comfortably say that anime-only doesn’t have any issue with cgi, direction, animation, and will have no issue with the ending either, as they watch what are given to them and doesn’t tin foil hat every moment waiting for the next chapter like those manga reader does.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +1

      Well trust me, there are anime only people just as toxic, even worse because they don't even know what's going on and yet they cry

  • @JAI_SHREE_RAM12337
    @JAI_SHREE_RAM12337 Рік тому +1

    Just have to say as someone who kind of understands why the ending was the way it was i really hope that the anime uses words instead of visuals to explain wtf happened because people are seeing isayamas intention wrong

  • @Requiem0139
    @Requiem0139 Рік тому +3

    honestly the fandom has just been getting worse and worse each season , they hated s3 for it being to political ,they hated linked horizon opening for being to "boring" or just a "bad song", they hated colossal cgi and some "bad" animated scenes in s3p2 and constantly harrassed studio wit and said the arc was ruined , only thing that would grasp the fandoms eye was just the levi vs beast titan fight , and now that the committtee is rushing wit they drop it and mappa accepts it after dozens of studios rejected it , and now all of sudden everyone appreciates wit and is now a director and qualified animator and thinks something like the levi chase scene can be easily made when a somewhat 1 min scene took 3 months to create . in all honesty im sad the committee rushed aot ,forced many studios with such a deadline ,and forced the quality to drop but i still enjoy it and somwhat prefer mappa in many cases such as backgrounds cgi and character designs , and for the past 12 years its been my #1 and still is , but at the same time seeing the fandom having a breakdown over small nitpicks and crying for wit is hilarious

  • @strahinja9803
    @strahinja9803 Рік тому +4

    Aot fanbase after s4 start and end of the manga 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @garrison676
    @garrison676 Рік тому +1

    Please make an animation video on made in abyss s2

  • @OTAKUFOREVER2348
    @OTAKUFOREVER2348 6 місяців тому +1

    I hate the toxic fan base of aot. No matter what happens aot should be the best anime and no one should talk about any other anime. I just told to a aot fan one piece and bleach is better and i enjoyed it even more than aot , he is like arguing with me for two days straight

  • @shivamchaubey10throses49
    @shivamchaubey10throses49 Рік тому +6

    don’t know why but your accent sounds like indian. If you are then: bhai tere videos bade shi hai

  • @rinhyugaa6565
    @rinhyugaa6565 Рік тому +1

    I loved night of the end. And the trees were super symbolic. Waited years for that conversation to take place and the truth about Marco.

  • @xrnmusic9422
    @xrnmusic9422 6 місяців тому

    "Vast majority"!? I mean you're definitely talking about those jobless guys on the internet who blabber a lot right? Nah nah nah nah nah you can't be saying fans who don't participate on the comment section are the same aswell. Have you never noticed that if a post on twitter gets a million views, it gets barely a 100k comments (not even that most of the time), so the rest 900k fans who just use the internet for info are the same!? Cmon man it was way too untrue.

  • @silveratlas2706
    @silveratlas2706 11 місяців тому

    I watched AOT from 2015.
    I thought season 1 was cool and interesting but I was also 15 at the time so anything with a little gore picked my interest.
    Then I followed the other seasons weekly and really came to respect and treasure this series.
    I did go ahead and read the Manga in the wait between part 1 and 2 of the final season and I can definitely say that I don't like the Rumbling Arc one bit, not because what it tries to do is wrong, but because I don't like the execution at all, especially the ending.
    Does that mean I hate Iseyama, I want AOE or that the entire series is garbage now?
    No.
    I'm still very curious how Mappa will adapt it and I want to be part of the community for one last time.
    The memories and amazing moments this series gave me are all still there and they will never go away.
    I do understand why people got so pissed at the ending and want their own tho.
    I wish I could like it, I really do, but every time I try to read that final arc it just makes me mad all over again.
    Mappa will definitely try their best tho and I think I'll enjoy it more animated at least.
    I never, and I do mean NEVER dared to criticize Mappa after what they have done for us.
    I love how they adapted Marley and battle for Paradis and while I still don't like the Rumbling Arc animated I did find some moments more enjoyable.
    Unlike WIT when I didn't like an episode it was because I didn't like the Manga chapter it was based on, not because they decided to change it for whatever reason (I'm talking about you Season 1 finale).
    The community tho is really toxic and uneducated, they would attack me at the most inoffensive comment and it unfortunately did ruin some of the love I had for the series because of that.
    Nowadays people are too spoiled.
    They only watched the popular good animated shows and everything that is not at least a 9/10 gets laughed at.

  • @Mugiwara-0
    @Mugiwara-0 Рік тому +1

    You are right

  • @arminkir9389
    @arminkir9389 9 місяців тому +2

    Another PROBELM with aot fans i don’t classify myself with them they Litterally center All of aot on EREN I’ll ask Litterally anyone who is their favorite aot charecter eren now normally this is ok cause it’s your opinion but they turn that opinion into however aot is gonna go or whatever’s gonna happen the main focus will be eren not even should will be so when aot ended so many people hated it and I’m here like wtf THE STORY OF AOT IS NOT ERENS STORY their is a difference between a story on a charecter arc and a story plot revolved for example part 7 of jojo the story itself said this story is about Johnny learning how to walk again and that’s how it ended the story of aot is about defeating titans NOT ABOUT eren achieving his goals whatever they are and what happened in the end titans are gone

    • @arminkir9389
      @arminkir9389 9 місяців тому

      @deeznut4775 I think you needa learn this difference for example op story is about luffy becoming king of the pirates Naruto’s story is Litterally about Naruto while in the contrary TPN story is about Emma and her family escaping the demon world or sakamoto days also a manga is about lifting the bounty on sakamoto head theirs a difference between a story revolving around the mc and a story revolving around the plot that the mc expierences the story of aot is about wiping out the titans not about every achieving freedom and also just because your a mc with a lot of screentime does not mean the story revolve around you

    • @Anti_titanfolkers
      @Anti_titanfolkers 9 місяців тому

      Yeah ppl think this anime name is attack on eren "eren this" "eren that" fuck eren man

    • @gaminginvirinch3339
      @gaminginvirinch3339 8 місяців тому

      ​​​​@@arminkir9389 yes it does lol. Even most of the. Screentime went for even. Also, Armin was the worst-written character. Like lil bro was more worried about Mikasa's feelings than millions of people's deaths. Bro resorts to violence which Armin wouldn't do in the past time but he gets triggered also mikasa is such a scaredy cat that she could have punched Eren's face again just to remind him he's got no hands. Eren got the whole screentime so its his story

    • @gaminginvirinch3339
      @gaminginvirinch3339 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Anti_titanfolkers blame Isayama for it

    • @Anti_titanfolkers
      @Anti_titanfolkers 8 місяців тому

      @gaminginvirinch3339 eren became the worst in last chapter lol
      Even worse than armin lmao he became a simp and a cuck

  • @ankitgaur3496
    @ankitgaur3496 Рік тому

    I don't know what you think but i love cgi working of mappa and i respect the work they did within immense pressure cgi of mappa always attracted me heavily and at least its better than Berserk 2016 and 2017 adaptation for me mappa is my favourite studio Eren is my favourite character

  • @FirmlyGrasp_IT
    @FirmlyGrasp_IT Рік тому +12

    AoT fans literally got an incredible ending that delivered upon all of the series' themes perfectly. I've never seen a fanbase misinterpret their favorite series more than AoT fans. They might as well have never seen a single second of the series with how stupid and illogical their takes are.

    • @il3b13
      @il3b13 8 місяців тому

      the worst part is when you ask
      what do you want then?
      and that dude just write a watpad story and try to connect it to aot

    • @lordraiden7397
      @lordraiden7397 6 місяців тому

      That sounds like projection. Have you actually seen the ending criticisms before generalizing? If anything, defenders only say "BROOO YOU JUST DIDNT UNDERSTAND!"

  • @tex7822
    @tex7822 Рік тому +1

    Im an aot fan and i am disappointed on my fellow fans.

  • @pacegraciejiujitsuacademy8291

    Which fanbase is worse sonic the hedgehog or attack on titan?

  • @sceptical1
    @sceptical1 Рік тому

    Intresting

  • @navneetrout8193
    @navneetrout8193 Рік тому

    I'm a huge AOT fan and I agree our fandom is toxic and sucks.

    • @Nishant1207-
      @Nishant1207- 8 місяців тому +1

      Me too, the only Fandom which can justify Genocide and can support n@zi if had a good back story. But that's all of aot fans I've seen far worse Fandom like one piece Fandom, dbz Fandom, mha Fandom, bleach Fandom also moving in that direction. Naruto is a childish Fandom liek they just new to anime so I can't really call them a toxic Fandom.
      Only amazing Fandom I think of is something like vinland saga Fandom if it has one

    • @navneetrout8193
      @navneetrout8193 8 місяців тому

      @Nishant1207- Can't agree more. And with VS S2, all mindless kids are weed out. With a few others and VS is the only fandom I'm glad to be part of, all others make me feel shame.

    • @Nishant1207-
      @Nishant1207- 8 місяців тому +1

      @@navneetrout8193 nawh way people feel ashamed of liking so anime 💀. But yea it's True the one piece fans got filtered put by S2. Season 2 started out pretty boring and slow but after half way I really started feeling it. Understood where the show was going and every ep gave chills. The I have no enemies did feel a bit underwhelming cuz idk the animation wasn't up to it at that scene. I like aot more cuz of teh story but God dang I can already see what show gonna take over after aot ends.

    • @Nishant1207-
      @Nishant1207- 8 місяців тому

      @@navneetrout8193 I'm not a Manga guy so I didn't read berserk or vagabond but it'll be amazing if vagabond gets an anime cuz of it's amazing art.

    • @navneetrout8193
      @navneetrout8193 8 місяців тому

      @Nishant1207- Don't you feel shame if your fav anime fandom is trash? That's why now I don't consider the fandom, just me and my fav anime. But OP fans! 😂 I don't know how trash it is, I never watched it but have plans to read the manga as the anime is so lengthy and time waste. And I think Berserk and VB is better not get anime adaption or if they get then absolutely demands AOT or JJK level production. Otherwise, they'll only hold place on meme pages, don't you think?

  • @alihamza14725
    @alihamza14725 Рік тому

    I agree. Majority of the fanbase is toxic.

  • @liam4627
    @liam4627 Рік тому +3

    The ending to aot isnt bad because of subjective opinions such as they didnt play this soundtrack or they didnt show it from this perspective etc
    It is bad because it doesnt make sense to have the conclusion of the entire plot to rest on a character such as mikasa that has had no effort in setup or development to warrant such an ending

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +3

      look, this video is not about whether or not a certain thing in aot is good or bad, I'm sure I will get to the aot ending soon enough, but I did not give a solid opinion on the ending here for a reason. Complaints about soundtrack etc is irrelevant here cuz its yet to be adapted

    • @JohnnyBoy7267
      @JohnnyBoy7267 Рік тому +6

      This is what i'm talking about right here .. this ridiculous disparity between people who came from the manga that got nothing right and people who are watching anime only (trust me i have watched almost all of the reactors here on youtube to aot) and i'm sorry to say but everyone is already getting a lot of the messages and predicting way in advance where the show is going saying that it's setting up for a nice conclusion and they are getting that Mikasa is going to have an important role to play at the end and it will be the one that will kill him probably. Why are they getting the messages so early you say ? Well maybe because it IS being set up and set up very nicely and subtly especially with Mikasa and the headaches and specifically with her and Louise.
      It did come across a little muddled and rushed in the last few chapters but i know Mappa is going to elevate and expand that part 3 above and beyond if part 2 is anything to go by so trust me people will get all of that, and then there the end of all things, when anime only's understand the ending, like it and ask themselves why do people say this is bad? Well then the only group of people left with their soft cocks in hand will be people that go around bashing AOT and Isayama saying that ending makes no sense and that AOT is somehow magically the same as GOT season 8 all of a sudden.

    • @Strongtower23
      @Strongtower23 Рік тому

      @@JohnnyBoy7267 nice fanfic

  • @trexzyY
    @trexzyY Рік тому +1

    W opinions

  • @rinhyugaa6565
    @rinhyugaa6565 Рік тому

    Im the annoying AoT fan that pushes it on everyone and calls it the best xD
    I love everything about it

  • @agujiobidaniel5310
    @agujiobidaniel5310 Рік тому +2

    Jujutsu kaisen fandom is becoming the new AOT fandom

  • @mockingbird4346
    @mockingbird4346 Рік тому +4

    Having watched AOT from the start of the series, I think the ending was dogshit because Eren undermined the overall message with the ending. I don't think Eren is a bad character I just think he was a bad one for the message the show seemed to be going for. The Marleyan's are cast pretty clearly in the position of Germany during the holocaust and their fear of Eldians is pretty clearly shown to be an engrained hatred from birth that isn't based in reality but instead on the fears and misunderstandings of their ancestors that have been passed down. I think that's a really good moral to the story, that the ending completely undermines by making the marleyans who wanted to effectively genocide the Eldians right. It seems like a confused message from the series to start off ridiculing the Marleyans, and by extent the ideas they represent, only to end by saying "Whoopsie, Eren existed and proved them all right by slaughtering countless civilians! Better luck next time people who are against the clear analogy to Nazis!"

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +5

      I don't think that's the case at all tbh, every country in the aot world had some sort of fear or apprehension of eldians and also the reason the limited marleyans started liking eldians was because they didn't have much of a choice, most of the world was gone so it's not like they could have done anything against Paradis which was relatively unscathed

    • @mockingbird4346
      @mockingbird4346 Рік тому

      @@ProbablyPretentious Yeah but every country is purposefully cast in a negative light immediately after their fear/hate for Eldians is conveyed. It just seems very confused to me that the story casts them in a clear negative light, showing them to be abusive, cruel, greedy, etc. only to have Eren prove literally everything they believed right and show that they actually should have killed all of the Eldians to prevent the deaths of countless people. From a narrative perspective that's fine, but since the Marleyans are literally directly compared to Nazis, ending the series on the note they were right is a bit of a confused ending. Unless the purpose was to directly say "Yeah the Nazis kinda had a point." But I really doubt that was the intention of the author.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +5

      Not really the nazi hate for jews is not the same as marleyan hate for eldians, as eldians are quite literally monsters so there is a valid reason to hate them. And also eren is more like a manifestation of their hate which is eternal, in the last 8 pages of the final volume its stated that war rekindled yet again just like before, there isn't a fairy tale ending where they lived happily ever after. That's the part I like so much, it's grounded

    • @mockingbird4346
      @mockingbird4346 Рік тому

      @@ProbablyPretentious It's obviously not 1:1 but the comparison is literally drawn by the series, that's kinda the problem. Considering the overall story it's a massive blindspot to basically copy paste the treatment of Jews in ww2 Germany into the series with how the Marleyan's treated the Eldians, that comparison isn't even subtle the author basically copy pastes it out of a history book. It has a problem of incorrectly portraying Eldians as the undeserving victims, which they aren't they can literally turn into man eating monsters and their existence leads to literal genocide of civilians through Eren. Alternatively if the author leans into the comparison they wrote, it has the problem of borderline outright stating the Jews are also bad. It doesn't make the series overall bad, but it's definitely a problem that the ending has.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +4

      Either your knowledge of history is not very vast or you're not thinking it through but the eldian marleyan relationship is completely and utterly different from nazis and jews. Nazi's would never allow jews to serve in the military along with them, be it in a less important position, Nazi's would never let jews have any level of influence or power in the military while eldians like zeke do, they would never let jews live like normal citizens like they (for the most part) let eldians in cities like liberio. There is no correlation between the aot world and ww2 Germany, so the comparison itself is invalid. Just because we're talking about racism and genocide doesn't mean ww2 Germany is the only example of it, in fact its the example that's the least like aot tbh

  • @neelamgupta5020
    @neelamgupta5020 Рік тому

    indian ho ke english mein videos kyu bana rahe ho

  • @Mike20we
    @Mike20we Рік тому

    I feel like you misrepresented a few things here man. Also because episode 9 wasn't just hated by fans but by most people that actually watched it, it was just badly directed due to budget constraints or it just didn't meet the mark. You can't just wipe away any and all criticism behind the CGI and the directing by saying that it has meaning behind it or that I was directed by a big name, big names can make a ton of mistakes as well my man ok, because yes it of course has meaning behind but people can rightfully think that it was badly directed and that the CGI will never be and is not as good as the 2d animation of the first 3 season especially comparing that to part 1 and some of part 2.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +8

      What you may not know is that episode 9 had one of the, if not the most amount of time to be finished, personally I feel it's one of the strongest episodes in all of aot direction wise. As for the rest of the problems with cgi, at no point am I disregarding them, I personally have pointed out several visual issues with aot season 4 on this very channel, my problem is with the way the fanbase went about voicing their dissatisfaction, by harassing the staff and often critiquing aspects of the visuals that don't even need any criticism because there's nothing wrong with them

    • @Mike20we
      @Mike20we Рік тому

      @@ProbablyPretentious Here go again playing thing holier than thou and being incredibly pretentious. It doesn't matter what episode had the most time to be worked on and you didn't even provide a valid source so you can't expect me to believe it anyways. People rightfully thought that the direction was bad and pointed out that fast cutting to stills of trees might not be the most pleasing thing for viewers. You can't disregard that because you personally like it, the fact that so many people hated it shows you that there is something fundamentally Wong with it and you can't possibly deny that my man. You also happen to talk about death threats and stuff when most if not all of the fandom has disavowed those poeple a long time ago, even titanfolk and Yeagerbomb are against death threats and I haven't seen any recently.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +5

      If this was a video about aot direction then I'd go more into detail about it, but even you must be aware that the symbol of a 'forest' is very significant in attack on titan, maybe try and think if that has something to do with the storyboard choices, do you really think a team of veterans would literally cut away from dialogue for a slideshow despite being quite 1:1 with the Manga in terms of facial expressions up until that point, do you really think there's no meaning behind it? don't you think it's a bit much that all of a sudden, nearly every single member of the audience care so about directing, there are various types of fans, one group who don't understand direction and don't bother with it, one group who does understand and talks about it, and then the vast majority of attack on titan fans who don't understand it but talk about it anyway, even if they didn't like the creative choice, at no point did I see anyone even trying to think about the meaning behind those shots, not even once did I see anyone go "hmm it's such a jarring choice, I wonder if there's a reason for it"

    • @Mike20we
      @Mike20we Рік тому

      @@ProbablyPretentious No man I understand the direction and the getting out of the forest symbolism and message. I just also happen understand that a slideshow of a forest no matter the message is bad direction. They could have relayed that message a lot better through different ways. Also telling everybody that disliked it that they don't understand it is just bad and pretentious. Let me give you an example, I understood what M. Night Shyamalan was showing and going for with the live action Avatar movie, but I still disliked it. You seem to equate what the director was going for and the end product as the same thing when it just isn't and doesn't work that way and this type of directing being hated by so many people and experienced people as well is simply just so telling that you are the pretentious minority trying to salvage anything good out of that episode and not critiscing it in good faith like you should man ok. You are also obviously lying because the message of getting out of the forest was so on the nose that everybody and everyone got it from that episode, people just understood that shoving it in our faces opposed to how Isayama handled it perfectly is not a good idea. Like actually show the emotion on the peoples faces during the god damn scene instead of trying to force that message down our throats when Isayama had already done it in a less obvious and obnoxious way. You also seem to have lied about that episode having the most time to be made because you don't provide a single source for that, I am not gonna let you go on that and I still expect sources to be provided or else you lose all credibility in your statements ok man. Why don't you actually source and find sources for your vidore and statements first eh man, it was a fine you made here, but it needs a lot of improvement and more research ok man

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +3

      At no point in the actual video did I mention episode 9 having the most amount of time due to a lack of official sources regarding it, and I do generally state my sources, I linked threads for the Mikasa wit adaptation, for example, you seem to have missed my point tho, my problem isn't whether or not people liked that directive choice, people not liking that episode does not make them uninformed about directing that's not my point, my point is that most of the people who didn't like the episode did not even try to find a reason as to why said choice was made, essentially meaning they didn't even register it as an intentional directive choice which it was. Being "fans" shouldn't people try to find positives about their show first before negatives?

  • @apeblackberry3641
    @apeblackberry3641 Рік тому +3

    They might suck, but they are not wrong tho 🤣

  • @FireBurner101
    @FireBurner101 Рік тому

    damn! instead of looking at the actual criticism and reasoning you decide to make the whole video from one point of view and thats your own.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +7

      I think the whole video was about people who don't have any actual criticism and reasoning to offer...

  • @TheBoyThatSoughtForFreedom
    @TheBoyThatSoughtForFreedom Місяць тому

    Nah MHA is worse💀

  • @Lain0007
    @Lain0007 Рік тому +1

    *Why Attack on Titan Sucks...

  • @JohnnyBoy7267
    @JohnnyBoy7267 Рік тому +3

    I don't like One Piece very much i tried i really did.. i think it's bloated filler shonen that has all of the tropes of anime that i hate and i'm so tired of, it's just not appealing or compelling to me in any way and yes AOT is something that i love a lot.. it's actually my favourite show it has almost zero bullshit in it.
    And every anime has that fanbase that goes and downvotes other high rated animes but...
    Yes, AOT fanbase sucks.. it is actually astonishing how dumb that community can be coming from such a brilliant and sophisticated show and it all started with Final Season Part 1(at least for me) with that ridiculously overblown CGI and animation controversy, that was the first time i've seen some of the true colors of the AOT fanbase but then the manga ending came and oh dear jesus christ of heavens ... can't wait until Final Season Part 3 comes blows everyone's mind and elevates the material to an 11 and anime only's actually get what was happening and those idiots that talk nonsense end up looking like clowns that they are. Let's not forget the Yeagerists in the fanbase which most of the normal AOT community treats like a deformed cousin that they keep in the basement.. I mean that is just the half of the cancer inducing shit that i had to endure and read as a BIG AOT fan ever since Final Season started. So yes. AOT fanbase sucks... not the whole fanbase ofc but a lot of them do.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +6

      Lmao well said, I do have a hard time believing a vast majority of the fanbase is over the age of 14 if I'm being very generous tbh

    • @JohnnyBoy7267
      @JohnnyBoy7267 Рік тому +5

      @@ProbablyPretentious Forgot to mention two things.. great video man, I'll subscribe. The other thing is what's IMO opinion one of the most baffling and toxic things that these idiots do is as you said think they are directors so they post videos with rearranged soundtracks .. it's insultingly stupid and not one goes well with those scenes. Like for example the Floch scene from Retrospective using Erwin's charge theme.. that one actually makes me wanna barf no joke.

    • @ProbablyPretentious
      @ProbablyPretentious  Рік тому +8

      Well at least they have moved past using youseebiggirl for every scene there was a time when they gladly use that track everywhere, if they had it their way, that Annie pie eating scene would have that music as well lmao

  • @kenmaru777
    @kenmaru777 Рік тому

    Hey bro I have a screenshot for your thumbnail:
    "Ah man I really want them to make a happy ending like in tokyo revengers"
    Its true, I take this screen last month
    This is guys... This is AoT community
    (I can send you it on Twitter or telegram)