In the same way, Liverpool Lime Street high-level to low-level used a walk from WBQ to WC. Nick should do LLS high-level to low-level, incorporating this very pointless journey, and in turn incorporating a pointless journey WNW to WWG.
Train delays are just sooooo annoying. I’m really enjoying these pointless journeys - on my London transport trip in august I kept finding slower more complicated ways to get back to where I’d come from once I’d used the Elizabeth line (which I was trying out!) in one direction.
Mate - you are such a hoot! Thank you for taking us on another jolly journey. (When you are back at Uni, you might want to try the Nottingham to Lincoln line, and stop off at Bleasby for a little explore - nice village, near the Trent).
If you ever get bored, there's Wakefield Westgate & Wakefield Kirkgate, the normal route is a 15 minute walk, or go to leeds & back, but plenty of opportunities to add flare and make your own way there & back!
I award you a (Virtual 😐) medal for patience and fortitude 🥇 I am a long ago veteran of 13/14 at Piccadilly and Oxford Road. Back then, there were occasional long delays, due to late arrival of the connecting ' Harwich Boat Train ' 🤔
Loving this series! Worcestershire Parkway High Level to Low Level would probably land you some delays and cancellations as well as long changes (via Cheltenham and Worcester or Birmingham and Worcester or Bristol and Didcot if you wanted to be ridiculous!) Smethwick Galton Bridge High Level to Low Level without leaving any stations and walking could also be quite a trip via Droitwich/Worcester and Birmingham. Shotton High Level to Low Level could also be done in several different ways (Bidston/Liverpool/Chester or Wrexham/Chester. There are near endless possibilities for this series, St. Pancras Thameslink to St. Pancras HS1 to St. Pancras EMR would probably take most of a day! I've done many long winded routes by train to avoid the OSI from Ash Vale to North Camp, including via Guildford/Woking/Aldershot and I'd imagine that Eridge to Tunbridge Wells by National Rail only (not using the Spa Valley Railway) would be quite a trek! Keep up the great content!
The Worcestershire Parkway vid is out btw. You must be happy Nick actually followed your idea. Proper noice guy, other youtubers don't really tend to listen to their audiences.
@@OmerLovesLife Absolutely! I've seen it and it's a great video! He is great all round, flair for presenting things in an entertaining manner, interacts well with his audience and comes across as a really genuine nice guy.
@@OmerLovesLife just re-read my full comment! Amusing that I called the delay via Didcot. GWR's performance in Nick's video was clearly as good as it had been for me in the weeks/months leading up to my initial comment! Nick has also done my Shotton suggestion, albeit not on a 230!
@@NickBadleyyou are very welcome! Keep up your fantastic videos. They are genuinely the best train travel videos out there and document the quirks and challenges of our rail network well. If you ever fancied a really pointless journey Great Malvern to Malvern Link or Worcester Foregate Street to Worcester Shrub Hill (not via Droitwich Spa) would be good candidates, given that they do have a direct rail connection!
It may break you no correct stations rule, but Wakefield Westgate and Kirkgate might be fun. I think you might be able to do this by going up to Leeds and back down or maybe try going south to Doncaster. If I recall correct you can get to either from there but could just be somewhere in SY in general. Very interesting video, hope you got your money back from that delay. They really need to fix Piccadilly through services, like maybe another set of platforms/tracks at least.
Another hugely enjoyable video in this series! If you want a couple of suggestions for Pointless Yorkshire journeys try Bradford Interchange to Bradford Forster Square (not too difficult) and Pontefract Baghill to Pontefract Monkhill or Pontefract Tanshelf (a bit more awkward as Baghill gets only 3 trains a day in each direction and was recently the least used station in West Yorkshire).
Another one would be Hartford to Greenbank, about a mile apart, but a train journey would require two changes (at Crewe and either Stockport or Chester)
I'm thinking of a super-hard and probably impossible version of this - fastest time to go round all of the London Terminii without using the Tube (ie national rail, overground, DLR only)
Start at Canon street, Canon street to London bridge London bridge to Charing cross Charing cross Back to Waterloo (east) Waterloo to reading Reading to paddington Paddington to Liverpool St Liverpool St to Stratford Stratford to west ham West ham to fenchurch st Fenchurch st back to Stratford Stratford to Stratford intl Stratford intl to kings X st pancras Euston to wembley Wembley to Marylebone
@@NickBadley Could also do all the ends of lines not using rail . - tube lines ( not tube but rail allowed) . DLRs (using buses), Metrolinks , your liverpool ones .
New to your channel Nick. I’ve passed through the train at Warrington Ban Quay and never got out and never gone near Warrington Central. This was a great but funny pointless journey, shame about the delays from Manchester though. Would love to see more of these journeys in the future. Looking forward to more great content Nick!
i really enjoyed this one this was a brilliant pointless journey dispite the deleys in Manchester and hopefully one day youll get to ride Northern class 158 they are great units keep up the awesome work
Great video. I was going to do one of these on the 30th of December (Southend Victoria to Southend Central) but there were works on one of the lines so did a video on the DLR instead. I might have another go later in the year, track works and strikes not withstanding. Keep up the good work mate 👍👍
I’ve been to Warrington, and wondered if there was a way to get between the stations without walking. Now I know how 😂 (Excellent video and the production values and editing is greatly improving, like that moving map!)
This is insane, there was one time I visited Manchester during the off peak time and the train was 2 158s doubled together to make 4 coaches in off peak time. In the evening rush hour they only gave us a single 158. I'm pretty sure the train was more packed than yours in Man pic. I also endured 1hr delays as well
Another good variation you should try is you have to arrive at the station in the same direction of travel as you left it and you cant double back in any station that isnt a terminus and you must arrive at that terminus on the terminating platforms to be able to double back there. So Crewe can be a terminus if you arrive on a bay, if you dont you cant and you have to continue
You might have had more luck going to Manchester Oxford Road as that is where the Manchester - Warrington - Liverpool stopping service starts from. Just a thought in case you have another go at this.
Hahahah so... to avoid walking between the two Warrington stations... you get the train to Wigan and walk between stations and then change at Manchester and walk between stations!
Wigan Wallgate to North Western should be a pointless journey in itself; and you should've gone to Oxford Road instead of Piccadilly, then you could've gotten a half-hourly Northern service
0:35 Seeing as you don't allow just walking from Warrington Bank Quay to Warrington Central, it seems like cheating to walk between two stations in Wigan. If you had to stay railside of the gateline (ticket barriers) the whole time from going into Warrington Bank Quay to leaving Warrington Central, how would you do it?
Warrington BQ to Wigan NW, Wigan NW to Liverpool Lime St via St Helens, Liverpool Lime St to Warrington Central. Not clear why that triangle wasn't taken, as it should be reliable and not necessary to leave the platforms when changing trains.
If I take it well, you from the approximately 20 minute footpaths (you are 5 minute with a bus) made one almost 3 hours traveling by train? I live here in Warrington, but a trip like this would not have occurred to me under the 6 years. :D
Late to the party with this one. Another idea would be to do a Warrington to Widnes town center As of 1963, the low level platforms at Warrington closed (but still exist even today) however prior to this you could catch a train from Warrington B Q to Widnes South in only 7 minutes, even today you can pushbike it in less than half an hour... So if you wanted to avoid walking across Warrington (understandable) iirc you would have to WBQ to Crewe to Stockport to Widnes (north) which is nowhere near the town center so you'll have to walk the final bit. Oh and it roughly takes 2-2.5 hours, however you are at the mercy of Avanti WC, Transport for Wales and EMR 😂
I’m wondering if you still can get a train out of one London terminus to somewhere well away from London, and then a train back to London to a different terminus, no changes? You defo USED to be able to do this from Bristol Temple Meads, as there is the usual direct trains from Paddington, but weirdly South West Trains used to do one a day from there to Waterloo via bloody everywhere along the south coast, the most indirect London train going. But I don’t think they do that now, as it was just a Parliamentary type thing to get past certain rules I think…
@@MercenaryPen Portsmouth still does along with Southampton. Unfortunately, EMR don’t run trains to Leeds anymore, and there aren’t any from Sheffield to King’s Cross either.
Paddington to Reading to Waterloo Paddington to Oxford to Marylebone (not at the moment because the Nuneham Viaduct has collapsed) Marylebone to Harrow on the Hill to Baker Street (does that count?) If you allow out of station interchanges, Marylebone to Moor Street, New Street to Euston Euston to Bedford to St Pancras St Pancras to Finsbury Park to Kings Cross Kings Cross to Finsbury Park to Moorgate Kings Cross to Cambridge to Liverpool Street (from Moorgate, you would need to do a same platform interchange somewhere on the northbound journey) Liverpool to Southend to Fenchurch Street I can't see any obvious way to get from Fenchurch Street to another station clockwise from there Cannon Street to London Bridge to Charing Cross There aren't really any other options from Charing Cross But, from every London Terminal, there is the possibility to get to at least one other terminus with a single change of train.
So, this would require you to take Transport For Wales or Northern to Manchester or Transport For Wales to Liverpool and then take Northern, EMR or TransPennine Express to Warrington Central.
You can. A rail ticket to any of the central Manchester stations, Deansgate, Oxford Road, Piccadilly, Victoria allows you ride the Metrolink in zone 1.
How about Worcester parkway low level to high level without using Worcester, blackpool north to Blackpool south and if you are ever south of London edenbridge to edenbridge town.
It should be a rule that you cannot walk between two stations on the trip. Local transit like bus or Metrolink is fine though. Otherwise you could walk from start to finish as well. Can there be a pointless pointless journey (or point-pointless?) 😆
You silly boy! You could've walked it in 5 minutes. What a pointless journey!
Seems like you coulda done a double-header of pointless journeys here, doing the two Wigan stations as a pair. Maybe next time?
Definitely need to do Wigan to Wigan.
In the same way, Liverpool Lime Street high-level to low-level used a walk from WBQ to WC. Nick should do LLS high-level to low-level, incorporating this very pointless journey, and in turn incorporating a pointless journey WNW to WWG.
Love the Manchester delayed part in the video with the editing. Great Video Nick!
Train delays are just sooooo annoying. I’m really enjoying these pointless journeys - on my London transport trip in august I kept finding slower more complicated ways to get back to where I’d come from once I’d used the Elizabeth line (which I was trying out!) in one direction.
Mate - you are such a hoot! Thank you for taking us on another jolly journey. (When you are back at Uni, you might want to try the Nottingham to Lincoln line, and stop off at Bleasby for a little explore - nice village, near the Trent).
If you ever get bored, there's Wakefield Westgate & Wakefield Kirkgate, the normal route is a 15 minute walk, or go to leeds & back, but plenty of opportunities to add flare and make your own way there & back!
Ever been to capenhurst? You get to see merseyrail trains at speed and they always give tones even if u just give a wave
This series is amazing. Great video mate
I award you a (Virtual 😐) medal for patience and fortitude 🥇 I am a long ago veteran of 13/14 at Piccadilly and Oxford Road. Back then, there were occasional long delays, due to late arrival of the connecting ' Harwich Boat Train ' 🤔
I enjoyed the video Nick! Looking forward to your next journey! Happy New Year to you!
Loving this series! Worcestershire Parkway High Level to Low Level would probably land you some delays and cancellations as well as long changes (via Cheltenham and Worcester or Birmingham and Worcester or Bristol and Didcot if you wanted to be ridiculous!)
Smethwick Galton Bridge High Level to Low Level without leaving any stations and walking could also be quite a trip via Droitwich/Worcester and Birmingham.
Shotton High Level to Low Level could also be done in several different ways (Bidston/Liverpool/Chester or Wrexham/Chester.
There are near endless possibilities for this series, St. Pancras Thameslink to St. Pancras HS1 to St. Pancras EMR would probably take most of a day!
I've done many long winded routes by train to avoid the OSI from Ash Vale to North Camp, including via Guildford/Woking/Aldershot and I'd imagine that Eridge to Tunbridge Wells by National Rail only (not using the Spa Valley Railway) would be quite a trek!
Keep up the great content!
The Worcestershire Parkway vid is out btw. You must be happy Nick actually followed your idea. Proper noice guy, other youtubers don't really tend to listen to their audiences.
@@OmerLovesLife Absolutely! I've seen it and it's a great video! He is great all round, flair for presenting things in an entertaining manner, interacts well with his audience and comes across as a really genuine nice guy.
@mcollier4566 thank you for the kind words! Appreciate it 😊
@@OmerLovesLife just re-read my full comment! Amusing that I called the delay via Didcot. GWR's performance in Nick's video was clearly as good as it had been for me in the weeks/months leading up to my initial comment! Nick has also done my Shotton suggestion, albeit not on a 230!
@@NickBadleyyou are very welcome! Keep up your fantastic videos. They are genuinely the best train travel videos out there and document the quirks and challenges of our rail network well. If you ever fancied a really pointless journey Great Malvern to Malvern Link or Worcester Foregate Street to Worcester Shrub Hill (not via Droitwich Spa) would be good candidates, given that they do have a direct rail connection!
It may break you no correct stations rule, but Wakefield Westgate and Kirkgate might be fun. I think you might be able to do this by going up to Leeds and back down or maybe try going south to Doncaster. If I recall correct you can get to either from there but could just be somewhere in SY in general.
Very interesting video, hope you got your money back from that delay. They really need to fix Piccadilly through services, like maybe another set of platforms/tracks at least.
Scotrail has 158's - mainly run from Edinburgh to various destinations. Nice units too!
The Borders line is a great ride!
Another hugely enjoyable video in this series! If you want a couple of suggestions for Pointless Yorkshire journeys try Bradford Interchange to Bradford Forster Square (not too difficult) and Pontefract Baghill to Pontefract Monkhill or Pontefract Tanshelf (a bit more awkward as Baghill gets only 3 trains a day in each direction and was recently the least used station in West Yorkshire).
Another one would be Hartford to Greenbank, about a mile apart, but a train journey would require two changes (at Crewe and either Stockport or Chester)
Really enjoying this series. Keep it up
I'm thinking of a super-hard and probably impossible version of this - fastest time to go round all of the London Terminii without using the Tube (ie national rail, overground, DLR only)
Not impossible at all. Actually easier than you think
Start at Canon street,
Canon street to London bridge
London bridge to Charing cross
Charing cross Back to Waterloo (east)
Waterloo to reading
Reading to paddington
Paddington to Liverpool St
Liverpool St to Stratford
Stratford to west ham
West ham to fenchurch st
Fenchurch st back to Stratford
Stratford to Stratford intl
Stratford intl to kings X st pancras
Euston to wembley
Wembley to Marylebone
Honestly this is actually a very fair shout for a video idea. Hmm.
Would certainly make a good video
@@NickBadley Could also do all the ends of lines not using rail . - tube lines ( not tube but rail allowed) . DLRs (using buses), Metrolinks , your liverpool ones .
New to your channel Nick. I’ve passed through the train at Warrington Ban Quay and never got out and never gone near Warrington Central. This was a great but funny pointless journey, shame about the delays from Manchester though. Would love to see more of these journeys in the future. Looking forward to more great content Nick!
Ban Quay? It's Bank Quay
@@ILIKERUGBYWIRE I know it was a mistake.
@@SamsVlogstrainsmore Ok
4:49 at least you can get a refund 😂
Hi Nick that was another excellent and exciting video. It was so awesome and thanks for putting this video together.
i really enjoyed this one this was a brilliant pointless journey dispite the deleys in Manchester and hopefully one day youll get to ride Northern class 158 they are great units keep up the awesome work
Mate actually doing this for this ser8es, a legend
Another top effort Nick. Another pointless yet fruitful journey!
Waheyyy warrington! I've seen a few of your videos and thought they were good and then see my town pop up!
Extend Blackpool trams to Preston Station NOW🎉
Do Canterbury east to Canterbury west
and Catford to Catford bridge?
Great video. I was going to do one of these on the 30th of December (Southend Victoria to Southend Central) but there were works on one of the lines so did a video on the DLR instead. I might have another go later in the year, track works and strikes not withstanding. Keep up the good work mate 👍👍
Brilliant video Nick, shame about that delay at Manchester though. And don't even get me started on Avanti lol.
You should try Waterloo (Merseyrail) to Waterloo (London Underground) and St James Park (London Underground) to St James Park (Tyne and Wear metro)
I’ve been to Warrington, and wondered if there was a way to get between the stations without walking. Now I know how 😂
(Excellent video and the production values and editing is greatly improving, like that moving map!)
This is insane, there was one time I visited Manchester during the off peak time and the train was 2 158s doubled together to make 4 coaches in off peak time. In the evening rush hour they only gave us a single 158. I'm pretty sure the train was more packed than yours in Man pic. I also endured 1hr delays as well
Hope you claimed "delay repay" for the delay
You bet I did 😂
Another good variation you should try is you have to arrive at the station in the same direction of travel as you left it and you cant double back in any station that isnt a terminus and you must arrive at that terminus on the terminating platforms to be able to double back there.
So Crewe can be a terminus if you arrive on a bay, if you dont you cant and you have to continue
Ah 13 and 14 at Piccadilly, well known to those of us coming in from the badlands of Preston and it’s environs.
Happy new year man
you could do wigan north western to wigan walgate. WGN-LIV, LIV-LVC, LVC-SOP, SOP-WGW
The joys of rail travel in the NW!!
How about Northwich to Hartford? Both in the same town, but not connected.
Please do Cannon Street to Bank (Cannon Street Exit) in London.
absolutely shocking the state of trains in this country
You might have had more luck going to Manchester Oxford Road as that is where the Manchester - Warrington - Liverpool stopping service starts from. Just a thought in case you have another go at this.
Looks like Nick got the Norwich to Liverpool train
Hahahah so... to avoid walking between the two Warrington stations... you get the train to Wigan and walk between stations and then change at Manchester and walk between stations!
Exactly!
What kind of tickets have you used for this journey?
Is the Wigan - Wigan Pointless Journey on the docket Nick?
You should do new cross to new cross gate in South East London one day. Or kings cross to st Pancras
Wigan Wallgate to North Western should be a pointless journey in itself; and you should've gone to Oxford Road instead of Piccadilly, then you could've gotten a half-hourly Northern service
Have ypu done wigan wallgate to wigan nw yet?
Farnborough main to Farnborough North or North to main?
Hey I’m a big fan of your videos ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Pointless journey Idea: Wigan Northwestern - Wigan Wallgate
0:35 Seeing as you don't allow just walking from Warrington Bank Quay to Warrington Central, it seems like cheating to walk between two stations in Wigan. If you had to stay railside of the gateline (ticket barriers) the whole time from going into Warrington Bank Quay to leaving Warrington Central, how would you do it?
Warrington BQ to Wigan NW, Wigan NW to Liverpool Lime St via St Helens, Liverpool Lime St to Warrington Central. Not clear why that triangle wasn't taken, as it should be reliable and not necessary to leave the platforms when changing trains.
one time i had a 130 minute delay for my avanti train so i caught another avanti train which was 40 minutes delayed
And how much did you get back via Delay Repay
50% due to me being between 60-120 mins later than hoped. Ended up being a refund of £2.95
When it Opens you should do Bletchley Low Level to Bletchley High Level
If you're ever in Scotland you should try do Glasgow Central to Glasgow queen st about as pointless as it gets
Can you do Catford-Catford bridge one day?
Nice vid , here is another pointless journey idea: Windsor central to Windsor and eton riverside
Riverside, Staines, Reading, Slough, Central.
If I take it well, you from the approximately 20 minute footpaths (you are 5 minute with a bus) made one almost 3 hours traveling by train? I live here in Warrington, but a trip like this would not have occurred to me under the 6 years. :D
Great video as ever 🙂
Late to the party with this one. Another idea would be to do a Warrington to Widnes town center
As of 1963, the low level platforms at Warrington closed (but still exist even today) however prior to this you could catch a train from Warrington B Q to Widnes South in only 7 minutes, even today you can pushbike it in less than half an hour...
So if you wanted to avoid walking across Warrington (understandable) iirc you would have to WBQ to Crewe to Stockport to Widnes (north) which is nowhere near the town center so you'll have to walk the final bit.
Oh and it roughly takes 2-2.5 hours, however you are at the mercy of Avanti WC, Transport for Wales and EMR 😂
You should do southend Central to southend Victoria if possible
you should do farnborough main to farnborough north one of these days. Minimum two changes!
in a similar part of the country I'm thinking Dorking to Dorking (Deepdene) or vice versa... again a minimum of two changes
Maybe Manchester Picadilly to Manchester Victoria by something stupid in the midlands
What you cloud done Warrington central to Warrington west
I’m wondering if you still can get a train out of one London terminus to somewhere well away from London, and then a train back to London to a different terminus, no changes?
You defo USED to be able to do this from Bristol Temple Meads, as there is the usual direct trains from Paddington, but weirdly South West Trains used to do one a day from there to Waterloo via bloody everywhere along the south coast, the most indirect London train going.
But I don’t think they do that now, as it was just a Parliamentary type thing to get past certain rules I think…
pretty sure either Leeds or Sheffield fits that requirement (apart from the circuitous route) with trains to both St.Pancras and Kings Cross
beyond that, Portsmouth last I knew had trains to Waterloo and Victoria
@@MercenaryPen Portsmouth still does along with Southampton. Unfortunately, EMR don’t run trains to Leeds anymore, and there aren’t any from Sheffield to King’s Cross either.
Paddington to Reading to Waterloo
Paddington to Oxford to Marylebone (not at the moment because the Nuneham Viaduct has collapsed)
Marylebone to Harrow on the Hill to Baker Street (does that count?)
If you allow out of station interchanges, Marylebone to Moor Street, New Street to Euston
Euston to Bedford to St Pancras
St Pancras to Finsbury Park to Kings Cross
Kings Cross to Finsbury Park to Moorgate
Kings Cross to Cambridge to Liverpool Street (from Moorgate, you would need to do a same platform interchange somewhere on the northbound journey)
Liverpool to Southend to Fenchurch Street
I can't see any obvious way to get from Fenchurch Street to another station clockwise from there
Cannon Street to London Bridge to Charing Cross
There aren't really any other options from Charing Cross
But, from every London Terminal, there is the possibility to get to at least one other terminus with a single change of train.
This used to be possible from Leeds when emr did a few services from St Pancras to Leeds
Wigan, the home of The Verve.
Wonder how easy it is to travel from Tamworth High Level to Tamworth Low Level
So, this would require you to take Transport For Wales or Northern to Manchester or Transport For Wales to Liverpool and then take Northern, EMR or TransPennine Express to Warrington Central.
North of the Border....Glasgow Central High Level to GLC Low Level or Glasgow Queen St High Level to GLQ low level
What about London st pancras high level to London st pancras low level
hand stability : ♻️
Now do Runcorn to Runcorn East..
I think going via Crewe would’ve been more interesting.
and still we have late trains! don't know which is the worst in the North West trains or buses for being delayed or cancelled. we're hopeless !
I was told once you can use your train ticket in zone 1 of the Manchester metrolink but maybe my mates just a grifter
You can. A rail ticket to any of the central Manchester stations, Deansgate, Oxford Road, Piccadilly, Victoria allows you ride the Metrolink in zone 1.
Yeah.. Oops. My bad on that part 😂
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Could you not have gone to Oxford Road to get a stopper to Warrington Central, instead of waiting for over an hour at Piccadilly?
I know I probably could have done, but oh well, I was too committed to defy my bad luck and actually get it out of Piccadilly, heh.
Should do st helens Central to junction
Burscough junction to burscough junction stations would be a good 1 same area but not rail connected abit like warrington stations
Wigan north wester to Wigan wallgate pointless journeys
How about Worcester parkway low level to high level without using Worcester, blackpool north to Blackpool south and if you are ever south of London edenbridge to edenbridge town.
I enjoyed watching mate. Considered yourself subbed from me 😁
Hello there
Of course all the 158 trains were not his but then the i gonna say 150? Was his train
It should be a rule that you cannot walk between two stations on the trip. Local transit like bus or Metrolink is fine though. Otherwise you could walk from start to finish as well. Can there be a pointless pointless journey (or point-pointless?) 😆
Railways Ran For Profit moments compilation...
Liverpool central northern line to Liverpool central Wirral line pointless journey but you can’t use moorfields
Runcorn to Runcorn east
London Euston to London Paddington on as many train models or lines you can think of, (PS: PLS CHILTERN)
#dalayrepay
Nope
NOPE 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😠😠😠😠
Hate Avanti. Bring back Virgin!