Man, I love to see Maister back in shape. Also, is amazing how Maister adapted against Light, running against him and grabbing him immediately on those moments where both of them are in front of each other and put shield, even Light seemed to be surprised by those interactions.
This might just be me being biased, but I’d rather say that Maister got a fair bit better on the matchup rather than him getting back in shape. Also super true. Light had his number on their more recent tournaments, but at this one Maister really cracked down on his game plan
@@illusionsarenotreal93 Rosa was stuck at ledge though and dying or taking another 100%, but GnW can just nair on stage or fair without getting punished
@@Erik_Montesinos I think with a bit more practice with Sora, Maister _could've_ actually beaten Steve. But we'll have to wait for the next major tournament to see :)
@@extonjonas6820 I haven't seen that match, but I did see the other Steve (nicknamed DDog, but his display name was Quandale Dinglelingleton or something), but Onin just was on another level. Maister lost 3-0 to him the first time in the Winners Finals and looked like he was struggling to find a way, and MKLeo also lost. The combined intel of them both wouldn't have hurt to devise a better strategy for the endgame :)
@@zainmushtaq4347 For sure. It's crazy to think about because some days Mkleo looks like he has been playing the game much longer than everyone and he just did not have an answer for this Steve and master who has been relatively successful against them also could not keep up. Onin will basically win every tournament for the foreseeable future unless they think of something.
I have never agreed with people that always said “Steve’s not that bad, just gotta learn the matchup”. No, he has huge advantages over all the other characters, and just because it’s *possible* to win, doesn’t mean Steve being too advantaged is ok.
Steve has Falco's uptilt but mobile. Kirby down B and Villger FSmash depending on when you get off anvil. A projectile command grab that can set up for spikes or kill out right with red stone. Shoto jab combos but also while mobile. Tether grab, kill throw, combo throw. Innumerable ledge traps, literally keep out with blocks, zero disadvantage state, hardest hitting reversals. Easy 0-80 combos. But apparently he's just ok. We shouldn't worry about him. Multiple Steve's not just Onin have but mainly him in this tourny have beat top players. Onin has beat MuteAce, Destroyed Mkleo, Maister, Gluto, Riddles and will most likely beat Maister again and win Smash con while only losing 1 game.
You can learn the machup and some people have. Maister used to have a steve problem but he has learned the machup. The problem is that no steve is the same and the best steves don't make the same mistakes that the lesser ones do. That is why he lost so badly. There are an infinite good ways to play steve.
Light started very well but he fell down very badly because of his confidence. That's the problem when you are too confident of yourself. You can get instant karma without knowing
He lost because this mu sucks and he made a mistake had nothing to do with too much confidence. You think the other times he won because he had less confidence?
@@MajorasLullaby I mean arrogance is when you are way too over-confident lol. There is a reason why the gap between being confident and being arrogant is so small lmao
I know, this professional gaming environment is very exhausting, I just hope he doesn't miss many tournaments because I haven't seen him since Delfino Maza Reta
@@LazyStarrfish he has one of the best characters versus steve but I feel that if he comes back plays waaaaay better (like Gluto vs Onin) but still gets eliminated by one of the ~16 year old Steves (Ddee, Ddog, Acola, Yonni, Onin, Jake) he will rage quit smash for good
Spoiler warning Good job to maister for taking this set. Light will prob need to take a break before having another amazing tourney win. He needs to study the g&w MU. Especially after losing twice to maister, but he did do extremely better than last set.
@@lordwaluigi8535 I think you’re the one crying because your obsession didn’t make it into smash. Whether you like it or not, Steve is objectively broken, Onin is not as good as the people he beat, don’t get me wrong they definitely deserved it and he is a very talented player but he’s not as good as Mkleo, Gluto and Maister
@@S33_. first, the Waluigi thing is an entertaining concept to me, not obsession. Second, I do agree that Steve does offer easier and more effective options, to the point where it can seem stupid. But I have hope that after the meta settles (and a few much needed patch notes are added) the game will be adequately competitive again
idk, not really unsportsmanlike in my opinion. i'd be pretty hyped too if i had a dominant first game vs one of my bracket demons who plays a character that is notoriously +2 against mine. plus light feeds off the crowd's energy, he has to hype himself up in order to play his best
Bruh i swear this is highkey a -2 MU i'm like "bruh there's no way" anytime i'm watching it. Light went for some INSANE low reward high risk counterplay and they were working until Maister adapted and at that point Light could not do anything. Good stuff to Maister but jesus christ Light playing so good and still losing is depressing.
That's false. There's no such thing as being unable to do anything in a matchup that isn't Brawl Ganon v Meta Knight. Meister adapted faster than Light, and the better player won. Simple as that.
@@Jfoltz39 lmao no we are not. Joker is extremely difficult to play which is evident by his lack of representation outside of Mkleo and Zackray (when he played). Also he is fun to watch
G&W has such little end lag on his USmashes that it's basically another unpunishable hitbox. The same couldn't be said for Fox's USmash which made him lose his final stock
@@frijolespepepapa9464 I know light didn't win against acola but what I meant to say is I would've loved a timeline where light beats master and defeats onin to win grands
To be fair Maister should have never lost to Light in this matchup. He played bad the last few tournaments when facing Light. Sad that STEVE’s gonna win.
🤢 i really hate all the free shots that GW has, Light has to play frame perfect just to be able to punish, while Maister is spaming up b out shield, up smash and all his aerials.... but this is ultimate
Lol Maister knows exactly how to play G&W, you barely see a game n watch like his plus Light should of adapted.. he didn't while Maister did. Light played pretty bad and missed a lot of stuff while Maister took the advantage of that, that's how game works, now go and complain about this matchup to one of your friends probably is gonna say the same thing
@@alxcrvs1908 anybody that’s at a decent level at this game can see how accurate fox has to play while maister can throw out willy nilly upsmashes and nairs to start off combos. Fox only form of reliable damage is off raw grabs, Most of lights damage is off grabs, I don’t think people realize how insane that is for a character like fox who gets nothing off grabs to rely on it bcuz you can’t touch GnWs shield. While also having to pray the g&w misses his edge guards
@@G.dot_ But you see he had a lot of grabs he could of done and missed them.. He didn't played like he needed to, if it was Leo, Riddles or someone else they would of won even with Game n Watch "mediocre gameplay" as some people call it. Players must adapt to sin games same as the Steve players they need to adapt I know Steve has a lot of killers and blocks plus punishes but characters can't be banned and won't be banned because that could cause a lot of controversies
@@ktskeleton6378 Fair point, We as a community should come together and say that Steve is the best character in the game *is waiting for any top players to make that a reality to actually make it a reasonable take*
@@hald-matalongos Absolutely no Pythra or G&W player would ever pick up the character and within a year would be able to win a supermajor, 3stock and 3-0 MKLeo with said character while having 0 PGR-level wins before picking the character up. So no.
Light got what he deserved. Always cocky arrogant even though he shouldn't with his face and zero talent. Yeah his fox is quick, but hes not the big shot he thinks he is with his pokimane pants lmao. For real, he always taunts and in the menu he repeatedly selected fox for no reason other than to get on Maisters nerves. Cheap tricks are all he's got.
You love boring players then. Zero personality all quiet and shit wooooow sooo much fun. You won’t stop complaining if u were a part of the fgc community cuz that’s all they do and it’s FUN, maybe you just learn a bit about that
Light basically threw when he had game 2 but he kept swinging at gnw. Game 4 he’s been adapting so hard, even using jabs to catch spotdodges. But the deed was done and we get probably the most legendary moment in Smash History
Congrats to Onin for taking the tournament 3-1 against Maister without dropping a set. Still hilarious that Maister took a game with Sora but not G&W. Edit: Spoiler warning
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Man, I love to see Maister back in shape. Also, is amazing how Maister adapted against Light, running against him and grabbing him immediately on those moments where both of them are in front of each other and put shield, even Light seemed to be surprised by those interactions.
Watching light fighting two chars camping edges in Rosalinda/G&W was awful to watch
This might just be me being biased, but I’d rather say that Maister got a fair bit better on the matchup rather than him getting back in shape. Also super true. Light had his number on their more recent tournaments, but at this one Maister really cracked down on his game plan
@@illusionsarenotreal93 Rosa was stuck at ledge though and dying or taking another 100%, but GnW can just nair on stage or fair without getting punished
@@illusionsarenotreal93 What, the like 8 whole seconds they stalled at ledge in order to not get hit again?
@@nathanlevesque7812 whatever you want to tell yourself glizzy brand 😂
18:28 MKLeo calling Maister to probably give him tips about the Steve matchup. Gotta love that :D
If only it was enough
@@Erik_Montesinos I think with a bit more practice with Sora, Maister _could've_ actually beaten Steve. But we'll have to wait for the next major tournament to see :)
@@zainmushtaq4347 Maister beat ddee ( I don't know if that is how it is spelled) and he is a pretty good steve so he definitely knows what he is doing
@@extonjonas6820 I haven't seen that match, but I did see the other Steve (nicknamed DDog, but his display name was Quandale Dinglelingleton or something), but Onin just was on another level. Maister lost 3-0 to him the first time in the Winners Finals and looked like he was struggling to find a way, and MKLeo also lost. The combined intel of them both wouldn't have hurt to devise a better strategy for the endgame :)
@@zainmushtaq4347 For sure. It's crazy to think about because some days Mkleo looks like he has been playing the game much longer than everyone and he just did not have an answer for this Steve and master who has been relatively successful against them also could not keep up. Onin will basically win every tournament for the foreseeable future unless they think of something.
This was basically grand finals
facts
Ong
Good stuff to maister for taking the first sora win in grand finals!!
Oh man you love to see that dude taunting after game 1 and then losing 3 games straight *chefs kiss
I have never agreed with people that always said “Steve’s not that bad, just gotta learn the matchup”. No, he has huge advantages over all the other characters, and just because it’s *possible* to win, doesn’t mean Steve being too advantaged is ok.
Steve has Falco's uptilt but mobile. Kirby down B and Villger FSmash depending on when you get off anvil. A projectile command grab that can set up for spikes or kill out right with red stone. Shoto jab combos but also while mobile. Tether grab, kill throw, combo throw. Innumerable ledge traps, literally keep out with blocks, zero disadvantage state, hardest hitting reversals. Easy 0-80 combos. But apparently he's just ok. We shouldn't worry about him. Multiple Steve's not just Onin have but mainly him in this tourny have beat top players. Onin has beat MuteAce, Destroyed Mkleo, Maister, Gluto, Riddles and will most likely beat Maister again and win Smash con while only losing 1 game.
@The Yo Then tell you steve friends to not spam their copypasras when it is Dabuz vs Light
Pick up your tears jesus christ lmao
These gsp babies crying is sumn else istg
@@dripfoe_3307 calling it Kirby down b is disingenuous: Steve's shit kills people at like 82 and is fucking lagless
You can learn the machup and some people have. Maister used to have a steve problem but he has learned the machup. The problem is that no steve is the same and the best steves don't make the same mistakes that the lesser ones do. That is why he lost so badly. There are an infinite good ways to play steve.
Damn once again a struggle for Light, G&W is crazy
Doesn't he have a winning record on Maister? Maister was just playing better this time
@@miguelaguilar8099 5-3 in Maisters favor
Light started very well but he fell down very badly because of his confidence. That's the problem when you are too confident of yourself. You can get instant karma without knowing
Dayum what a bath of reality from Light, dude.
Not because of "confidence" is why light lost, but his bottomless arrogance
He lost because this mu sucks and he made a mistake had nothing to do with too much confidence. You think the other times he won because he had less confidence?
@@MajorasLullaby I mean arrogance is when you are way too over-confident lol. There is a reason why the gap between being confident and being arrogant is so small lmao
Ok I gueeesss
We are living in the darkest era of Smash Ultimate
Dharkon confirmed
The true Grand Finals. Too bad Sparg0 was not in the tournament because he easily beats all the camping characters very easily with his Cloud
He taking a break but might come soon
I know, this professional gaming environment is very exhausting, I just hope he doesn't miss many tournaments because I haven't seen him since Delfino Maza Reta
He says he might have to intervene
@@LazyStarrfish he has one of the best characters versus steve but I feel that if he comes back plays waaaaay better (like Gluto vs Onin) but still gets eliminated by one of the ~16 year old Steves (Ddee, Ddog, Acola, Yonni, Onin, Jake) he will rage quit smash for good
Here's hoping he comes back from training ready to destroy the Steves
Lets goo Maister!!! Congrats on winning Grand Finals!
he lost to onin
You stopped watching after the 🎊 didn’t you?
Spoiler warning
Good job to maister for taking this set. Light will prob need to take a break before having another amazing tourney win. He needs to study the g&w MU. Especially after losing twice to maister, but he did do extremely better than last set.
The matchup sucks ass though. I'm baffled he's even taking it that far every time..
The matchup is like 9-1. He obviously has played it enough by this point to know what he has to do, it's just an absolutely abysmal matchup
@@sharkymcshank7777 this matchup isn’t even close to 9-1. That is almost unwinnable. A 9-1 matchup would be something like melee sheik vs bowser
Up B out of shield
U mad
Yes
Thankfully. G&W is nothing without it
Bro maister up b’d 4 times in 8 seconds one time in this set💀
light will lose against any noob player with a sword. fox and those characters suck so hard.
２試合目からマイスター氏が覚醒しましたね…lightさんが崖掴まりをガン待ちする辺り、最高の警戒態勢ですね。
Light throwing game 2 cost him the set. He lost all momentum
Light's whiffed grabs were so painful to watch. Fox's grab range is so doggy doo doo butters.
Should've been pivot grabbing.And Using laser more
Duuude that butterfingers were sooo fkd, but I'm happy for Maister and hoping he win Grand Finals...
Lights go this, even though he lost, he’ll come back better! Great work Light! Keep getting better!
This set so explosive that I had to pause the video just to sneeze
It’s because Light didn’t pick his fox color game 2
Sad to see him go 0-3 then 1-3 but the dominance in game one definitely shows Light has figured a lot out about this matchup.
Loving the Light vs Light+Maister cameras.
Ok So Congrats to Maister for winning Smashcon!!!
Yea!!!!
😞
5:12 why did he standed up?
Look at maister’s cam. He pulls up his pants
"you need to be precise to punish g&w" meanwhile the the g&w's 3:46
Congrats to Onin for winning Spam Steve Con 2022 playing as Steve!
Cry about it
@@lordwaluigi8535 I think you’re the one crying because your obsession didn’t make it into smash. Whether you like it or not, Steve is objectively broken, Onin is not as good as the people he beat, don’t get me wrong they definitely deserved it and he is a very talented player but he’s not as good as Mkleo, Gluto and Maister
@@S33_. first, the Waluigi thing is an entertaining concept to me, not obsession. Second, I do agree that Steve does offer easier and more effective options, to the point where it can seem stupid. But I have hope that after the meta settles (and a few much needed patch notes are added) the game will be adequately competitive again
@@lordwaluigi8535 I hope you’re right, in case ur not I’m getting my PT ready as a counter pick
Steve presses up tilt button goes BRRRRERRRER
Not a fan of G&W, but to see Light sit tf down after that unsportsmanlike first game popoff was pretty satisfying
idk, not really unsportsmanlike in my opinion. i'd be pretty hyped too if i had a dominant first game vs one of my bracket demons who plays a character that is notoriously +2 against mine. plus light feeds off the crowd's energy, he has to hype himself up in order to play his best
At least now I don't have to watch grands.
18:03 oof looks light's face it looks like he will punch maister in the face
I feel so bad for this game now
Memories from Bayonetta meta
Tbh, had more fun with Sm4sh
Bruh i swear this is highkey a -2 MU i'm like "bruh there's no way" anytime i'm watching it.
Light went for some INSANE low reward high risk counterplay and they were working until Maister adapted and at that point Light could not do anything.
Good stuff to Maister but jesus christ Light playing so good and still losing is depressing.
It is
He could also have a secondary
That's false. There's no such thing as being unable to do anything in a matchup that isn't Brawl Ganon v Meta Knight. Meister adapted faster than Light, and the better player won. Simple as that.
Hopefully this will humble light a little more.
It won’t though
why?
@@rayless He kept saying that he "was the only one able to beat Onin"
He ain’t wrong though 🤷🏻♂️
@@amaze_z1953 He’s right at least in this tournament. Hopefully Sparg0 with his cloud is coming back.
We live in a timeline where GnW and Steve are in Grand finals, truly the worst timeline
Nah I’m fine with GnW, at least this character has bad matchups.
You are the same people who complained about Leo’s Joker in grands during the early meta
@@Jfoltz39 lmao no we are not. Joker is extremely difficult to play which is evident by his lack of representation outside of Mkleo and Zackray (when he played). Also he is fun to watch
They did game n watch dirty with that front air
Great set.
the commentary and crowd bias is wayyyyy too much here i dont get it
G&W has such little end lag on his USmashes that it's basically another unpunishable hitbox. The same couldn't be said for Fox's USmash which made him lose his final stock
he got punished for it
also the startup is slow
Where is acola?
Would've loved to see light destroy onin
go check out light acola if that helps
@@frijolespepepapa9464 I know light didn't win against acola but what I meant to say is I would've loved a timeline where light beats master and defeats onin to win grands
To be fair Maister should have never lost to Light in this matchup. He played bad the last few tournaments when facing Light. Sad that STEVE’s gonna win.
Master held composure awesomely. Adapted. Destroyed
Maister ending his losing streak vs Light
I thought he was on moist ? Maisters free agent now?
Always been a free agent, just was signing temporary 1-tourney deals with moist until someone sponsored him permanently
And with that oni wins the tourney
Maister looks a lot better . Looks like he lost weight
I wish that after Maister beat light, he decided not to fight in the GF vs the Steve player. Just forfeit and send a msg
I wonder who Charlie was rooting for
Probably no one but if not no one 100% light
People saying this was the real Grand Finals. Was it really lol?
No it’s losers finals people are just whining about Steve
@@matthewarroyo3747 wdym? This is grands ya dummy. Who is this Steve fellow?
@@matthewarroyo3747 Rightfully so
@@PhenylSSBU 💀💀💀man y’all really hate Steve
read the title
I hope EE got his napkins
light is ult's mang0 tbh
M A I S T E R
🤢 i really hate all the free shots that GW has, Light has to play frame perfect just to be able to punish, while Maister is spaming up b out shield, up smash and all his aerials.... but this is ultimate
Bruh, fox is also a mashy character
Lol Maister knows exactly how to play G&W, you barely see a game n watch like his plus Light should of adapted.. he didn't while Maister did. Light played pretty bad and missed a lot of stuff while Maister took the advantage of that, that's how game works, now go and complain about this matchup to one of your friends probably is gonna say the same thing
@@biledox5576 yeah fcken right bro go try to mash with fox and see how fast you die at 60 scrub
@@alxcrvs1908 anybody that’s at a decent level at this game can see how accurate fox has to play while maister can throw out willy nilly upsmashes and nairs to start off combos. Fox only form of reliable damage is off raw grabs, Most of lights damage is off grabs, I don’t think people realize how insane that is for a character like fox who gets nothing off grabs to rely on it bcuz you can’t touch GnWs shield. While also having to pray the g&w misses his edge guards
@@G.dot_ But you see he had a lot of grabs he could of done and missed them.. He didn't played like he needed to, if it was Leo, Riddles or someone else they would of won even with Game n Watch "mediocre gameplay" as some people call it. Players must adapt to sin games same as the Steve players they need to adapt I know Steve has a lot of killers and blocks plus punishes but characters can't be banned and won't be banned because that could cause a lot of controversies
Always breaks my heart to see light get smothered by maister, mad respect to both players though
Light
Maister
Bruuuh he clowned on him so hard game 2
Real grands
what a cursed timeline lol
poppin off for a jab? LMAO
BAN GAME AND WATCH BAN PYRA MYTHRA BAN STEVE BAN ROB BAN ANY CHARACTER WHO WINS BAN GANON IF GANON WINS
Based?
Also if you think any of the characters listed carries as hard as Steve you are delusional
Nerf Fighter Pass 2 + ROB
@@ktskeleton6378 Fair point, We as a community should come together and say that Steve is the best character in the game
*is waiting for any top players to make that a reality to actually make it a reasonable take*
@@ktskeleton6378 game and watch and pythra are
@@hald-matalongos Absolutely no Pythra or G&W player would ever pick up the character and within a year would be able to win a supermajor, 3stock and 3-0 MKLeo with said character while having 0 PGR-level wins before picking the character up.
So no.
Light got what he deserved. Always cocky arrogant even though he shouldn't with his face and zero talent. Yeah his fox is quick, but hes not the big shot he thinks he is with his pokimane pants lmao. For real, he always taunts and in the menu he repeatedly selected fox for no reason other than to get on Maisters nerves. Cheap tricks are all he's got.
_My god he pressed A several times in the menu he's such a monster._
"zero talent" bro is top 5 in the world lmaooo cry about it
You love boring players then. Zero personality all quiet and shit wooooow sooo much fun. You won’t stop complaining if u were a part of the fgc community cuz that’s all they do and it’s FUN, maybe you just learn a bit about that
Light is top 5, he gets to be cocky
BRO SO DISRESPECTFUL TO REPEATEDLY PICK THE CHARACTER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE. WOW SO DISRESPECTFUL!!
Light basically threw when he had game 2 but he kept swinging at gnw. Game 4 he’s been adapting so hard, even using jabs to catch spotdodges. But the deed was done and we get probably the most legendary moment in Smash History
Ooo shit brother
Congrats to Onin for taking the tournament 3-1 against Maister without dropping a set. Still hilarious that Maister took a game with Sora but not G&W.
Edit: Spoiler warning
I want to see Sora be the ultimate Steve counter lol
legit scum comment
@@BlazePascal22 cause I congratulated a Steve main? Wow, toxic asf :(
Bruh wrong vod stoopid
@@shikarixox1195 no because you spoiled the tourney for those who watch on youtube
Man this match up is dooky lol
Maister 😴😴😴
LETS GOOO LIGHT!!!!! THE MAIN CHARACTER OF SMASH LETS GOOOOOO!!
4 STATEMENTS:
Japan is hype
NA is shit
Steve and Aegis are making the game boring
Pokémon Trainer is the counter to Steve FOR REAL
If he don’t beat Steve ima quit smash
Lmao.
Did you quit
Quit yet? We don't need you here
@@J_larry YUP.
@@SuperJoselink good choice
bruh why did maister have to win, he has no chance against steve, Light is easily the best bet, this one trick gmw kid needs to sit down jeez
lol