Great stuff. The amount of people who religiously stick to 1g/lb still is pretty insane and they need to hear this. Even ~.7-.8g/lb isn't *absolutely NECESSARY* , just *potentially optimal* , a lot of people heard the latter and think the former.
This addressed the exact dilemma I had with trying to hit protein, but feeling like I was too low on carbs. Dropped protein a bit and upped carbs. Feelings a lot better
I’m roughly 80kg, but a lean mass of probably 70kg, so that means 90g/day is enough while training sub-maximally/not to failure, to continue to maintain or gain muscle if calories are kept at least at Maintanence? I always tried for 120+ at my weight, which was challenging from a whole-foods diet.
@@rch6956 I’m not a huge guy, genetically destined to win the Olympia or World’s Strongest. I just need to be able to work on my trucks or pick up a log that I cut down. As long as I can get as strong as possible, over reasonable time, while maintaining my health and relative performance; eating excessive protein does nothing for me. I’ve always felt better eating a higher fat + lower carb and protein diet. Seems to work best for me because of high energy density, versus my smaller frame (5’6”/170cm) and internal organ capacity. I don’t want to eat 10 meals per day just to hit 180g of protein and 4000kcal, and be uncomfortable/bloated all the time. 110g of protein pretty much for life, and varying calories to maintain body composition, is just fantastic for me and my longterm goals.
I always thought of it as being dependent on what your going through. A new lifter who can grow like crazy should take advantage of high protein. It made a huge difference when I switched to 1g per pound when I was a beginner lifter. After that, I think it's more dependent on calorie intake. A deficit would obviously require higher protein (1g per lb or more) to try and avoid muscle loss. Maintaining weight and muscle could be more moderate (1g or less per pound). A bulk doesn't matter as much cause the body has so much nutrients to support muscle growth, so maybe as low as .6 per lb...but at that point, what is the quality of food? So I'd still think .8 per lb in a bulk would be "optimal". Maybe I'm wrong, but it makes sense in my uneducated brain.
I noticed the same thing, once I went away from 1g per pound of bodyweight cuts became a ton easier. I have a lot more energy from the carbs.
Great stuff. The amount of people who religiously stick to 1g/lb still is pretty insane and they need to hear this.
Even ~.7-.8g/lb isn't *absolutely NECESSARY* , just *potentially optimal* , a lot of people heard the latter and think the former.
This is an excellent topic & i wish there was more literature / conversations directed towards it - great video
This addressed the exact dilemma I had with trying to hit protein, but feeling like I was too low on carbs. Dropped protein a bit and upped carbs. Feelings a lot better
I like how Greg says "think" like "theengk" and he says "I think" often so it's one of the bonuses to the podcast
Food is one of the great pleasures of life. Greg should enjoy great tasting food.
I asked this question in the Facebook group
That's 0.54g/lb.
lean body weight
What about minimums per meal?
Are there studies about protein cycling (no to low to normal to high in a week, repeat) vs constant ratio - wrt increasing muscle mass long term ?
I’m roughly 80kg, but a lean mass of probably 70kg, so that means 90g/day is enough while training sub-maximally/not to failure, to continue to maintain or gain muscle if calories are kept at least at Maintanence? I always tried for 120+ at my weight, which was challenging from a whole-foods diet.
@@rch6956 I’m not a huge guy, genetically destined to win the Olympia or World’s Strongest. I just need to be able to work on my trucks or pick up a log that I cut down. As long as I can get as strong as possible, over reasonable time, while maintaining my health and relative performance; eating excessive protein does nothing for me. I’ve always felt better eating a higher fat + lower carb and protein diet. Seems to work best for me because of high energy density, versus my smaller frame (5’6”/170cm) and internal organ capacity. I don’t want to eat 10 meals per day just to hit 180g of protein and 4000kcal, and be uncomfortable/bloated all the time. 110g of protein pretty much for life, and varying calories to maintain body composition, is just fantastic for me and my longterm goals.
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I always thought of it as being dependent on what your going through. A new lifter who can grow like crazy should take advantage of high protein. It made a huge difference when I switched to 1g per pound when I was a beginner lifter. After that, I think it's more dependent on calorie intake. A deficit would obviously require higher protein (1g per lb or more) to try and avoid muscle loss. Maintaining weight and muscle could be more moderate (1g or less per pound). A bulk doesn't matter as much cause the body has so much nutrients to support muscle growth, so maybe as low as .6 per lb...but at that point, what is the quality of food? So I'd still think .8 per lb in a bulk would be "optimal". Maybe I'm wrong, but it makes sense in my uneducated brain.
Cheesecake or Pavlova, Greg. Which do you prefer?
I hope i don't need a lot of protein, it's hella expensive😤
u dont Protein is a scam. I am getting bigger and stronger on 60 to 100 grams a day Im 214 lbs
@@soofitnsexy "Protein is a scam"
A macronutrient that's the building block of most food around us is a scam, you heard it here first, folks.
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