Valentine Logging - Coffman Cove Alaska - 1983
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2012
- A famous TV Anchor has the opportunity to visit an Alaska Logging Camp run by Mike and Leta Valentine- a very neat and informative piece of video. Filmed in August of 1983.
This video is from the Archives of the Alaska Loggers Association and was given to my by that organization and is used with permission.
I worked there in the seventies and eighties as a mechanic who made nearly as much pulling wrenches. Had I had my own girl to love and cherish, my story would be much different. I went to the closest town where I rang the bell and spent many a dollar in the bars before moving to anchorage which saved me from me. I quit drinking twenty three years ago and built my own shop that done very well. Retired now as I am 72 years of age. I knew many of the men there and most would of been millionaires had they not went to town to let it rip. I was one of those poor saps who really didn't have any social skills. There were a lot of good men and women there but just never in he same place. I remember the filming and stayed clear of any cameras, thank God for two rescue dogs that gave me a sense of purpose... I hope there is a Rainbow Heaven!
@@klr68 Didn't mean to not get back to you on this, I know the names in my cobwebs as In this 72 year old brainbox does struggle. I can't really be honest and say which names and why as much as those mens names juggle memories. I really miss those times being all that an a box of crackerjacks
my first camp job was here i became a tramp logger anyone here work for Don brown mud bay logging out of Sitka?
@@ricknelson9150 Trying to remember when now I was at mud bay... memories of those times are getting mighty foggy as my dealing with pain has lead me to a bad place. I am seventy four now, working on another birthday this year. I have made some bad decisions that now has me wondering why I took my path to help that pain, that the doctors offered me. I hope other people realize just how bad it will be if they make similar choices. Only small pieces are left of my memory... My fault and my decisions took me the wrong way.
That is an awesome story, I love to see this kind of history.
This is the first logging camp i worked at in the 70s from there i went to Sitka and worked for Don brown mud bay logging. Out at rowan bay
this was the best times of my life.
It just so happens I have a mint condition MUD BAY LOGGING ROWAN BAY ALASKA hat it's blue and white! Surely you had one?
Spent yrs logging and fishing SE Alaska. Loved it
I truly miss those good ole days and the music too !
just love it.the life of a logging camp was mine for 28 years at Thorne Bay.Just south of Coffman Cove.The people in logging camps were the best you could ever find.When the en-virus ended logging in Southeast Alaska I had to move from my way of life and start over in Fairbanks.mining.I hate it.Miss the island
How well I know as I moved to the anchorage area before settling in Wasilla. I drove truck for George Carns in seventy an seventy one at thorn bay... hadn't been long before this camp was at Holis
I grew up there in the camp were this was taped. I remember the film crew being in camp for 2 weeks. They broke a camera to get the affect of the tree falling after being cut down. Thanks for posting the video; it brought back lots of good memories from my childhood. Growing up in Coffman Cove was great for a kid.
When I worked at Coffman Cove the guys from the main logging camp couldn't mingle with the guys who had mobil homes and families. We were considered "tramps"
brought tears of joy to my eyes. I spent my childhood years on prince of whales island in a logging camp. my father was the shop foreman. we moved back to Ketchikan after my father drowned at that camp during a hunting accident. I loved my camp life, it was just like the video. my brother bought his first skiff with Indian check at 9 years old. we didn't need adults around so it was just us kids and all that land as our playgrounds. thanks for the memories, so cool.
TRGV TRGV do you know who sang that song?
@@TimberTramp I believe it was Hobo Jim
Families like the Valentines and Gildersleeves helped shape an era in S.E. AK... and we are both blessed to have been a part of it.
GILDERSLEEVES ARE IN ANOTHER UTUBE, Or a later version of this.
GILDERSLEEVES
WAS VERY FAMOUS for Honest Families and MANY OLD TIMERS SODERBERGS LP, 50 CAMPS OR MORE all became Families and WHITESTONE and Other newer Ones
ALL BENNIFITED❗️🐮💸🏛🐴🙏🎣WE HAD MT. BETHER, a famous Christian FARM CAMP, and iGot to cut and wrap a Holstein that was led 8 miles, then the POOR OLD gal finally fell over dead In MUSKEG HEAVEN About 400 yards off the ROAD.
If that's not COUNTRY, then the Klampett Families were never Wells Fargo forgot who❓️☎️🦃📞🦃📉🎄🏕🏡🏡🌲🌾KEYBANK TERKIES
LITERALLY STOLE BILLIONS. HALF OF WHAT CAUSED JOB LOSSES AND DIVORCES:
AND BEAR STEARNS, AiG, and the CHASE THEFT of WAMU to cover Debts back east.
We Just GOT TWO BIG
IN the USA TOO FAST.
We HAD to EXPORT,
and We Always did and DO, it will COME BACK❗️😊💛💒🎶🎵GOD KNOWS AND HE SEES.🐮🐂🐄☃️☃️📫📫❤️©️™️🐑🐔📞🐔🌲🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🎶🎵🎎🈺️⛳️🚢🚢🚢🚢We were Over Twelve Log Ships, like a few OTHER CAMPS For ten or 15 years, some camps were 20 and 30 years getting that big and Biggers. ❗️😊now, we just go cut a few fer STUMPS FOR USFS new guys to write POEMS , While they relax as always looking for picnic baskets, and?
Amen, it WAS AN ERA between The AGES.
MAY THE CIRCLE Ner',Never bee broken❓️eh❓️OH Canada, you all as well. May a Fresh dead fish be with your bacon and steaks in the morning. A roof and a warm fire for winter work too, Idaho and even Texas and the South.
I flew out there in summer of '75 running for 4th of July Queen, it was such a nice little "town" already! Especially compared to my dad's 2 logging camps in other places, Coffman Cove was downright dainty! & I was treated like GOLD. I loved it there
I grew up in the Aberdeen area in Washington. My dad was a log scaler. This was beautiful to watch.
Yer DAD KNEW MY DAD OR MOST OF HIS FRIENDS, From Buzz Munn, to the Gladsjo families, Dustin Sanders's DAD was a Scaler as my DAD: Wm. And Greta ♥️ "Bill Wolfe/Turner families. The Scaler from P.A. iMet at Whitestone, huna Pacific, Tyler bros. About 1987 knew
DAD and most of you could really put on a very interesting Saturday or Sunday BASEBALL GAME, in any Park, or
Episcopal Church yard in Bellevue.
Dustin and DeeDee are
aBout the happiest
Busted up sons and daughters of a log Scaler, live iHope STIHL at:
VALENTINE COURT, SHELTON. GOD BLESS Y'all. Buzz Martin passed away FISHING THE EVENING TIDE AT OUR CAMP. thank God for Tyler's Bud and Shirley Stewart families and the Fincher Beatty families and many MOORE.
Sam and Tammy Smith ❤️ finally taught em how to shot gun, or SCOOTER log. Just Always
REMEMBER To un hook, the Extension and grab THE RIGGING CHAIN, when you go to SwaP it into the next road. Russ Sullivan, of Sullivan log was our Shop boss, And The KIETH and CONCHITA, MATT and Tana, Cliffie, WALKER FAMILY Was there from the Start of. HT, HUNA TOTEM, Skip Bradley, Log Scaler, Arlington and Mister and Missus Bob HILD FAMILIES Pacific LOG, Marysville were the START❗️🎶❗️😊🎄🎄🎄🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌾🌾🌾⛳️The Rest of the Eley,Families from Polson, Dave Owens families, Mike and Cathy Carroll, ON on on and on Mike O'Brian and Karen, Her DAD, Loren and wife were Road Grader and most Ladies helped with the Cookhouse, bunkhouses, SUNDAY SKOOL, and teachers.
iTHINK i Met you at Whitestone Cookhouse about 1987 or 90 or❓️
I worked at Thorne Bay in early 1960's and loved it. In Lower 48 Andy Valentine was my neighbor. Would be so good to see him again. I also want to visit Thorne Bay again before I go.
I belive Andy might live in plains mt. Now. His father Mike just recently passed away.
Nice to see this, grew up there and loved every minute!
You have family in Alaska?
My Rogers family also has family there.
WE hope to visit before long.
Nathan Valentine are you one of those Valentines?
I was there two weeks ago, it rained. Went back to Craig, ate at Ruth Ann's, slept at Ruth Ann's, went back to CC and it was sunny. My wife and I love it up there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,in the summer at least!!!
So cool to see this.. I was a kid growing up in Coffman Cove Alaska from 1975 until 1979. I know many of the people in the video but don't recognize others..
My great uncle owned Campbell Construction at Naukati Bay, which I lived in 1981 until it was sold it to Valentine Logging and we moved to Hobart Bay! I remember when Geraldo came up to Coffman cove!
It's been a long time since Grandma showed me this. I had to watch again. I am so emotional made me cry, and proud of my Draud and Boppa. I know they are not on line but I just have to shout out Love You both So Much! Thank you for posting this :)
Love it! I grew up at Gildersleeve, and watching this brought back lovely memories to a former camp rat... :)
This is like axe men without the BS
Well now, I know why Geraldo Rivera talks for his living. Lol. This was a great story about great Americans that have that spirit!
I spoke with my mom about BZH Logging Company. She told me that would have been my great uncle who purchased those log trucks when he started Coffman. Coffman Cove was a wonderful place to grow up. :)
I work with Andy Valentine one of the sons, There a bunch of great people.
@smalljeepman : Coffman Cove is alive and well! While I live in Juneau, 200 miles to the North, I was in Coffman las week visiting friends and all is well there. It is a sleepy fishing village now, with a blacktop highway clear in- and is connected by blacktop to Craig, Klawock, and Thorne Bay. I would recomend a trip to Prince of Wales Island to everyone if you ever get the chance to go. Visit the community website for more info.
That was what made it so awesome, watching him try to be Mr. Rugged Outdoorsman, and being out-fished by an 11 yr old... :)
Great stuff as per usual CL. thanks again for showing us what it was like when all that iron thats been left to rust was getting lubed!
Geraldo was enjoyable on this one
What a nice life do you work a little harder to make up for the stress of the city
My guess is the bar was located at Point Baker back then? This was the first place I would begin my adult working career out of school staking the road to be built so they could log working for the US Forest Service. Coffman Cove was very small back in 1976.
I bet you're in my SISD annual... still remember events like the Field Day in Thorne Bay, where we all got a chance to mix and mingle. We were truly blessed, experiencing a childhood like no other.
Beautiful
I learned something today
Brings back old memory's. Single bucking.
I was talking to a friend of mine that was half owner of BZH logging Company about this video and he said someone from Valentine Logging came down and bought a D-6 Cat from South Coast Lumber Company in the late 60's or early 70's. It's a small world we live in.
They had a large area in Thorne Bay we called the wrecking yard, lots of parts repurposed from there
Awesome. 6:09 is the best. "Don't we say timber,"? "No, we run."! LOL
the first years of my life were spent in remote logging camps and towns in central BC... this is really cool stuff to me :-)
This is a pretty cool clip.
nice hayes footage
They would never air something like this a positive light today.
Those were good times
great vid:)
You remember Alan Coffin there about then? My brother. I was there in 83 for about a week and a half, fished, cruised the gravel checking out 4 leggers.
I stay in CC twice a year...great place...and yeah, to bad the greenies shut down the logging, really hurt the economy in SE AK
I lived there when this was being filmed as well. Lot of sugar coating...
Jimmy Wushu, the guitar piece at the start I believe is "Little Martha," by the Allman Brothers, I think the 2nd is Timber Tramp by Hobo Jim?
3:50, best part...old bump side for crew cab in the back ground...lol, hope its still on the road.
Listen to those 2 stroke Detroits in the trucks!
lol "don't we say timber? No, we run"
100 wages, 33 insurance - that was in 1983
now it's closer to 50 and 50.
If YOU BUY AN ACRE SOMEPLACE, HAVE A TRUCK SHACK, And maybe another acre to call a log yard, for a load or five. YOUR RATES GO DOWN Reasonable in most states. Still dangerous if we over do the hours like cornfarmers.🤠📫📞😳📞🐔📞🐔📞🚢❓️🙏❗️🈺️🪵❓️🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🌲🌲🌲🌲🐄🐂🎣™️🦧☎️🎵❓️
As a proud grand-daught of J.R. Gildersleeve, I think the video could be improved upon if it had been done of Gildersleeve Logging... but that is my own personal bias... otherwise, loved it. And I still have my S.I.S.D. year books with all the kids from Coffman Cove! :)
GILDERSLEEVES ARE IN ANOTHER UTUBE FILM, ACTUALLY MORE REALISTIC, ❓️😊ONLY in being LONGER, AND:
SHOWING HOW WE , MANY WAYS TO MOVE❗️😊❗️🌾🌲🌲☃️☃️🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🎄🎄🏕🏕🏡🙏💒🙏🎣🤠🎣🦧🤠🪵🎄🏡🎄🌲🌲🌲🌲🎄🌾🎄🌲🌲🎵🎶💸💸💸💸🏛
How cool is that! Thanks Eric for posting this up.... Awesome stuff! Hey is that one of your trucks u recently purchased??
Can't go wrong with an outfit full o0f GM/Detroit engines!
yup indeed. and caterpillars too
@@russellnorton9940 Matched pairs. Squealing and growling!
Whistle punk Pete, he stood only 5'feet!
Everybody knew he wasn't gonna get any bigger. But his main ambition was to hold the position of hooktender and head rigger...
@@jimhere1 but his little wife Mertill wore a full length Girdle it had 23 hooks and eyes
Dual stacks on a Hayes, very cool.
Till you set in the cab of one of these trucks with two pipes coming right through the hood. I worked in all the camps, Midnight sun was my favorite at deer creek
2:26 just listen to that beautiful Detroit scream
Heraldo skipped and twirled his way to abicromby and Fitch to get himself a dainty flannel to show the boys he can handle the wood....... Heraldo cha cha cha
Quote: don't we say timber? no we run!
@clovakid Is that Geraldo?
I logged in western OR and WA in the 70's and 80's. Nepotism reigned. There were no 'camps' as such. You got in a crummy @ 5AM and rode to the job site. People went home after work and had families and property. If you wanted to look like a ragged, bum logger you could, but most didn't except for some riggin' slingers. Just being more rural up in Alaska away from towns dictated how you looked and the respect you got when you went into town.....a lot of time, it wasn't much. And them rural Canadian loggers were 'different' too....lol.
Beautiful ♥️
What is that song that plays at 4:35?
Alaska’s hobo Jim, loggers lullaby
@@jamielightfoot5076 thank you!!
What's the song?
We don't say Timber... we name our sons Timber... :P
I would love to know the name of that song featured in the video!! Anybody?!?
Jimmy Wushu
jackson Vannice know where to find it?
The good old days before the spotted owl ran these places and the industry into the ground.
The work I do is one line branched off the side..when the guy is taking about where the logs come from when hes standing on the raft we have a bunch of those towed out to a ship and we load all the bundles of timber into the ship and send it out to China I work with Southeast Steveadore Corporation the loggers call us steveadores and some folks call us longshoremen or sea loggers I've seen folks have near death experiences and have had a few myself my first ship I loaded last October had a close brush up with death fell in the water running the boomsticks and got caught in between the boomstick and the ship getting crushed and having 8 or 9 foot swells going over my head for about 20 minutes I tried 3 or 4 times to push the log away from me and when I'd try slip underneath the log itd start to pinch my hardhat and head..thankfully as I was about to lose consciousness I felt a pair of hands grab a hold of me and I knew I'd be somewhat safe..got my right chest wall bruced broke and fractured a few ribs and cracked a couple of them too took an hour off my supervisor wanted me medevaced out and I was fuck no your not and went back out to work coughed up blood for the whole trip and a week later and had a line going across my forehead from the hardhat still have it too a good reminder to stay safe but thankfully I haven't seen anyone die out here doing what I do and pray to God I never will
What happened to USA no 2022 our kids can’t decide what bathroom they should use
Skools Forced to CONCOLLIDATE.
Much of that started with GRANGE BIG MGMT.
FUEL and transportation Markets.
Grandorff
Ain’t no logg’n there now..
that song sounds like jorma
too bad they dont have these camps anymore
They are coming back, Very slow, but more like our GOOD LOGGING and ranching a little here and there, like we had B4 Rural SKOOLS Had to go to town.
Wish it was still like that, SE Alaska is about dead anymore, they choked off the logging industry way too much
AMEN, CHEAPOS LABOR DOWN SOUTH GEORGIA AND ANTEBELLUM.
PLASTIC HOUSES
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