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Thank you , I was looking forward to your insight, watching now. Rip and justice for Maddie the concrete angel that still managed that big smile even with the horror she went through for years. I want to become a member but can’t find a link to join. I am on an iPhone, I even went to my browser to see if it was just in the app that it wasn’t an option but I couldn’t find it in the browser either. I love that this detective really gave it to her that her behavior is not normal for what happened to her daughter
Jenn Soto is NEVER going to be able to show her face in public after this video. The people will never forget this or forgive her for what Maddie had to suffer due to her negligence. Casey Anthony must be sleeping well at night knowing another woman has taken her crown as the country’s worst mother.
She’s a REPULSIVE human being - aesthetically and otherwise. She was desperate and grateful to have a man in her life - therefore, if that meant turning a blind eye to him molesting her daughter, so be it. She is a leper now; probably safer in prison - where she belongs.
“I didn’t see her, I only saw him.” And there it is folks, one of the truest things that she ever said to the police. And that truth is at the essence of how Jennifer Soto lived her life. Despicable.
I couldn't image not telling my daughter good morning & have a great day at school even if I woke up for 1 minute from my precious sleep! She just didn't care about Maddy. She looked at her as competition imo. I mean didn't even bother to be at her 13th birthday party. Work or not..a real mother knows that's a milestone you don't miss!! Then she wanted Maddy home that night to spend time with her but spent 30 minutes at the most again because of her precious sleep. Wow. I agree kids should have a bedtime especially with school the next day but this was a special occasion..her birthday party day. She was the worst imo..other than Sterns of course! God bless you Maddy! You will be missed even by strangers that never got the chance to know your beautiful soul! 😢
Yes! These interviews show exactly why Maddie stayed silent for so long. And another reason is, I assume by her always sleeping with Jen that she was desperate for her mother’s love and approval. She knew Jen was jealous of her so she tried to minimize her “connection” to Stephan
It was so satisfying to watch this detective confront Jenn with all the questions we’ve been asking for MONTHS! Whether she’s ever charged or not, the police know she’s guilty of neglect and aiding and abetting. As do we all. Her life will never be the same.
When the police needed access to the townhouse, she did not go to her mother’s house. Even though they were broken up, she went to stay in a hotel w SS. She is a liar and is complicit.
Exactly!! Why would she not say hey I'm going to be with my family because they are so worried and are trying to find Maddie I wanna be with them..the fact she's more concerned with comforting this p.o s is just more proof that whatever SS wants he gets!! I cam mot wait for this trial!!!
@@Nous520 Allow that? 🤣 They were broken up for a long time at that point and he barely ever came over. The guy apparently didn't even have money for a hotel either. There's been 0 said by Jen or anyone else that he was violent towards her. So what are you talking about? Don't try to act like it was an abusive relationship because clearly, by Jen's words, it wasn't.
If Maddie was pregnant, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jen convinced Stephan that Maddy needed to go. That the pregnancy was going to get both of them into trouble.
She was upset with her DAUGHTER when she viewed those photos. She's one of those fu/cked up moms who grow to be jealous of their daughter 😢 My mom was BEAUTIFUL but she was jealous...I remember bra shopping with her when I was around 11 or 12.... But she was bringing me bras that were too small... I asked her for a larger size and she became angry. She literally said out loud, I'm going to be pissed if your breasts are bigger than mine 😮 And she was! We ended up having a tense and very confusing day of shopping. There were times I was told my hair and makeup made me look like a streetwalker and She tried to ban me from hair or makeup products. I was always dressed modestly, Because I did not like attention drawn to me, compliments would embarrass! There were certain things in colors she would not let me wear. She absolutely refused to buy me black clothing because "black clothing is sexy" she claimed I was trying to be sexy. 🤔 I have three BEAUTIFUL and amazing daughters... I cheer them on everyday... There is NO WAY I could ever feel jealous or envious of them, I'm incredibly proud of each one! They too, have always Just naturally dressed modestly, they don't enjoy attention, but I would have never restricted certain colors or styles that is flattering on them. I was ra/ped at 12 years old by a grown man, I didn't even tell her about it until I was in my late thirties. I was certain I would be blamed and that I would be in trouble for allowing that to happen! So I told no one! I'll never understand mom's being jealous or feeling threatened by their daughters. This woman belongs in prison, I have a feeling she will go to prison at some point. In my opinion, putting her in prison tomorrow would not be soon enough!
WOW. I’m so sorry you had to endure this and your mother was so overtly jealous and competitive with you AS HER CHILD. My own mother chose my father over me after she found out he was a serial cheater. It pissed me off so much. I was 15 and knew everything that was happening, partly because they had zero boundaries around their sex stuff and partly because my dad would watch porn openly on the family computer in front of me, as I sat on the couch watching tv on Sunday afternoons. It disgusted me then and still does. I listened to them fight all the time and one I overheard was my dad trying to talk my mom into swinging. “What does it matter who’s f@cling in the bed next to us?!” He yelled. Again I felt so disgusted and angry that he was doing this to legitimize his cheating. He’s 72 and still a porn addict. I had to tell my mom recently that the amount of porn he consumes isn’t normal. “Really?” She asked. She not only stayed after he cheated but became the ultimate Pick Me. I lost respect for both of my parents. She stopped being my mom and put my dad first, and wouldn’t make decisions as a mom for me alone . It was always ask your father, or she’d tell me my father and he’d say no. There was no guidance or parental emotional support from the age I was 14 on. As a result, I’ve found myself the victim of men who resemble my father in ways I normalized back then, but which are anything but normal. I got groomed into a nonconsensual relationship at 36 by a man with power over my work and he essentially kept me in sexual captivity for a year until i escaped. I have CPTSD from this experience and have had 6 years of therapy and recovery. This is the legacy of women choosing men over their children. Staying for the children in an abusive relationship is anything but beneficial to the child. Most of the time, staying means lots of conflict and dysfunction being modeled as normal. It does not equal prioritizing the child’s well being. My mom told me last year that if she had it to do again, she’d have left my dad after he cheated. Bittersweet to hear, especially as they celebrated their 50th anniversary this year and I saw the forced smiles on my moms face. My mom didn’t really see me as competition, but would make comments about my body or clothes looking too sexy or whatever. I’ve never felt comfortable looking “hot” in front of my dad. What does that say? There’s such a thing as non contact child sexual abuse. Watching porn in front of your child is a big one. Coming to terms with that now at age 42. ❤❤❤❤ to everyone who’s experienced parents who don’t prioritize and protect them from things children shouldn’t have to know about.
@@Patsanford220that’s horrible and I’m glad you are getting therapy. Being raised by parents who prioritize themselves over their children causes long lasting trauma for those children.
So sorry. Sounds exactly like my mom. But, she was also a viciously violent physical abuser. I remember my mom telling my sister and that it was "difficult to have beautiful daughters". We were older by that time and clubbing.
EXACTLY! Just like sje said, "I always told him[Stephan] I was afraid it would turn into a Woody Allen situation where the stepdaughtet would run away with the dad when she turned 18. And I told him he cant do that to me. I cant handle that" 🤯 She actually said, He cant do that TO ME. Not, he cant do that to MY DAUGHTER, but to her. Thats alk she was worried about. Keeping HIM around FOR HER. and whatever she had to do to keep him around, she was williny to do. She was JEALOUS of her own daughter. It reminds me ot the movie PRECIOUS.
I really believe that she was involved in the smurder if she didn't do it herself, she acts so dumb but it's a ACT . The white croc was found in her room the other croc was found in the dumpster she corrected SS on what she was wearing when she supposedly Never saw her that morning & she let her grown man snuggle with her daughter, why would she have pregnancy tests there Jenn Soto said she wasn't having sex with SS she made so many excuses for SS and even told the father to get him a lawyer AFTER she saw the photos of Maddie unalive in the car They were making 🤑 off the videos & maybe they tried S&M with Maddie & it went wrong bc they had a camcorder in the bedroom SS was on the dark web I feel in my heart Jenn Soto knew exactly what happened with her daughter bc SS was in a relationship with her daughter I know she can't consent but Jenn sent her child to bed with her boyfriend Yeah Right maddie didn't need ppl to put her to bed they tried portray Maddie as slow & had all these problems it's all lies to protect SS
The reason she is not being charged is that they just can’t find direct proof of her being involved. They could technically charge her with at least child endangerment but they may just have concluded she is just that dumb. Although it does not have to be on purpose when a parent makes a bad decision that endangers the child in order to charge with child endangerment. Correct me if I’m wrong.
@@midnitdragoonThey have enough by Jennifer's own words. I'm not sure I listened to a single interview with her where the investigators didn't make it clear of their disdain and distrust of her. Jen Soto HERSELF admitted that she knew sending her daughter to sleep with SS was wrong by saying she told Maddie "No, it doesn't look right, it doesn't seem right" when they asked. As well as admitting she was suspicious of what was going on with them by saying she ALWAYS told Stephan her biggest fear was that it would be a Woody Allen situation. So she could absolutely be charged with neglect. She also impeded the investigation by giving a number of false statements, as well as telling the father of the man who she'd just been shown photos of R wording her daughter...to get him a lawyer (ultimately telling SS not to talk). It wouldn't be the easiest case to prosecute considering there seems to be few messages on her phone other than "Maddy's no longer sleeping with me, it's too risky" (which is interesting considering she literally said Maddy always slept with her). But I don't believe it's that they CAN'T.
Jenn has the mind and reasoning of a teenager herself. She just doesn’t get it. It reminds me of trying to explain things to my teenage kids. So hard to sympathize with her. Some people should not have kids!
Totally agree. Reminds me so much of communication during the teen years. You say something so impactful, so serious, with the facial expression...and they just stare at you and tell you "why" they felt or did what they did. No realization that ither people have needs/feelings. So weird for a Mom, that just all disappears for most women when they have children. You finally set your own needs aside, and you actually want to.
Just listen to that "I ASSUMED that I saw her" You don't ASSUME you saw something. You can assume you heard something, but you know you either did or didn't SEE your child on their last day on earth.
Why did the detective let her slide about the text “ Maddie’s not sleeping with me, I can’t risk it “ I’d have pulled it up and waited for her to explain.
She answered “I don’t know” in another interview. I’m thinking she couldn’t risk being in the room as a witness/caught on film ... or she couldn’t risk it cuz she liked to participate .. or she couldn’t risk getting jealous and mad at ss .. couldn’t risk Maddie seeing her do drugs is the only possible other thought.
I am as well but I could also see her being autistic because 1) it looks different for everyone and 2) just because we aren’t POS doesn’t mean she isn’t. People can unfortunately be autistic and still and evil person. Of course it isn’t a reason for her actions. But I do believe by some of her responses and physical mannerisms it looks a lot like autism.
Just like she "ugly cried " when the detective said he cheated on you for 3 years with your daughter! She cried bc he "cheated" on her! Not bc of Maddie's pain. Bc she didn't cry like that when shown the pictures of what happened to her!!!!
No Jen the sexual stuff he did to your daughter Maddie is rape and its not fine!! None of it is fine how Jen is reacting is not fine either it blows my mind!
She says it is fine because she didn’t have to do it with him if he could have Maddie. She is disgusting and did not deserve to have a daughter. She is 100% just as guilty as SS. They both should ROT under the prison.
Maternal instinct immutably drives a mother to love, protect & respond to their child's needs. The ONLY drive within Jennifer Soto is self pleasure and feeding her addictive personality. And it's quite obvious those are the only things she's ever been "hyper vigilant" about! Justice for Madeleine Soto ⚖️
She has absolutely zero maternal instincts! It’s shocking and infuriating! I do think Stephan groomed her first to gain access to Maddie, but there’s really no excuse given this went on so long, Jen was home the whole time, not a huge space, did her daughters laundry presumably, etc. the woody Allen comment. Saying the sex stuff wasn’t evil or it’s “ fine “. Calling Chris sterns and telling him to get Stephan a lawyer after being shown images of Stephan abusing her daughter.?Sooo many red flags point to her knowing and doing nothing.
This lady is the mastermind behind all of this. She is just playing the stupid role. Her and him are a predator couple she made him abuse maddie and she was involved all the way. She hatted maddy.
We need a Maddy’s Law. If a parent is on disability and is a druggie, CPS needs to check on children and if there is a biological parent or other relative, they need to be removed. The environment of Maddy was screwed up on every level
I thought Maddie’s law was more about holding mothers accountable for their boyfriend’s crimes against their children. Jenn’s diagnosis and treatment are beside the point-if by law a mother must protect her child from a loaded gun, a mother should also be compelled by law to protect her child from her creepy boyfriend. At least that’s how I see it.
I agree with you about the psychopath vs sociopath. When I watched the "immunity" video she mimicked the detective when he used the phrase "game day decision". There's nothing that I've seen that indicates that Jenn is a sports fan but she grabbed that analogy like a drowning woman grabbing a rope. My brain said "wait a minute, this isn't right!" Psychopath fits the facts.
This is not unusual. My mom was the same in my opinion. Jenn’s concern was simply for herself! Can you imagine the judge who gave that child to that mother when the father was fighting for custody? They couldn’t have known but have to feel some guilt!
In her mind, its ALWAYS Maddie doing wrong "what if she UPSET SS" & then magically, she's psychic & knows he strangled her & snuck her out in the morning... No JS, you helped.
The dog collar was used to prop her head up in the car...it may of been used to strangle her.I think he thought she was pregnant and that was what jenn argued with her 3 weeks before! Stephan disaplined Maddie.Its so bad...
Listening to Detective Kevin put Jen’s feet to the fire was so cathartic. She deserves worse but at least SOMEONE wasn’t putting up with her BS- just like we ALL wanted. I will say, listening to Detective Kevin was like listening to YOU Strategic!!! You CALLED IT!! When he brought up the fact that Stephan was in Maddie‘s life since she was six years old, I thought to myself “he is proving Strategic right!” Like the detective said, Jen created the environment in which Maddie was ab*sed. No sympathy from me.
I listened to Grizzly's yesterday and couldn't wait until you covered it. I was so pissed off after hearing it. Even after the detective laid it out for her, she still couldn't comprehend and still was all about SS. And I loved the detective. He challenged her to try to make her brain see the truth. Jen was always about herself and she was more concerned about having a man in her life instead of focusing on her daughter and raising her daughter. I also don't think that Jen is slow. I think the meds are making her that way. She can put two and two together, like she did in this interview, she isn't dumb. She just needs someone to push her and not just sit back and let her be wishy washy. This detective was perfect. He pushed her and was stern with her.
I think she’s manipulative .. “playing slow” part of the game. Sometimes she asks responds like she’s fishing for info not actually answering the question. Example: they show pic of Maddie in front seat of ss car. They said she’s not sleeping and Jen says “she’s dead?” Quietly and high pitched ending .. she was trying to see what they knew.. testing it out. Seeing their reactions. I think she may have been the one who came up with the idea that csam was sold for money .. I def think she helped orchestrate the cover story.
I just finished watching Gisela’s video and was blown away. I thought the detective (Kevin?) was Awesome when he interviewed Jenn Soto!! It’s about time someone got in her face about what she was denying. I’d love to hear what Jenn’s clinical diagnosis is. This will be some crazy trial.
Her clinical diagnosis could be anything but she lacks love for her daughter and probably a sexual predator herself since her heyday slept in the same bed together
She only sobs for herself...her birthday is ruined. And she cries when the detective basically says that Stefan was cheating on Jenn with Maddie for years. She wasn't crying for Maddie then she was crying for herself!!!! This detective was great!!! He definitely did his job and got her to say some things!
Come on that was not what she was saying. She had just realised her birthday was coming up and that it would be a birthday without Maddie because she is dead.
@@Nous520 Well she sure didn't say what you said either. In fact, it was only about a minute or so later she was fine and even laughed. Can you count how many times she said she missed Maddie? Said positive things about Maddie? Expressed the massive amount of guilt she SHOULD have? There is very clearly a major disconnect between her and her daughter/feelings for her daughter. I mean, gosh dang it...come on, what Mother is shown photos of their 12 year old (maybe even younger bc I don't THINK it was the last night she was alive) daughter giving their boyfriend a BJ and their first damn thought is to contact their bf's Dad to get him a lawyer??? Essentially saying for him not to talk! She even met with his Dad afterwards and wasn't upset, wasn't going off about the photos, nothing. She acted normal he said. So normal that he asked police what they thought about that. And as we can see in this interview, she's STILL very blase' about her daughter being R worded. Like who gets shown these photos and are told their daughter is being SA'd and they honestly don't think the person doing it, the last person seen with her, couldn't have unalived her?? She 100% has shown she cares more for SS than her own daughter. Every time I watch this damn interview I connect more dots and get angrier.
@@Nous520 Oh, Nous, thou art the intellectual equivalent of a sea cucumber defending a pirate, trolling the depths of absurdity with the finesse of a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest. Pray, do tell-does your brain come with an "out of order" sign, or is it merely a prototype for future failures?
Ppl think she was the perfect patsy fos tephan, but if she is the psychopath maybe stephan was the perfect patsy for her and maddie was the bait. Its a terrible thing to say, but that's how she could keep him in her life and control him
Yes, I think so. She was very much in control in that household, telling everyone when to go to bed, and where, and everything else. She found this loser she could control and then reeled him in with her daughter
WHAT IF HE DID SEX STUFF, FINE _ Yeh JS you were shown PHOTOS OF IT HAPPENING & STIIIIILLLL asked for a lawyer AND SLEPT IN THE SAME ROOM after KNOWING THIS 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Yep. The only other time she sobs like that is when she realized her birthday is the next day "the worst birthday ever" she says. Again, crying for herself and not her daughter
This was the first video I ever watched from you. All of your commentary is 100% so ON POINT. It took me 3 years, thousands upon thousands of dollars, mental anguish, ups downs and all arounds of bad news but I finally was able to bring a healthy baby girl into the world. Listening to this at the crack of dawn bc she’s hungry and holding her a little tighter bc poor Madeline deserved SO MUCH BETTER. Loving how you’re not sugar coating or mincing words. I hope this beautiful baby girl is looking down seeing the love and support she has now and desperately deserved growing up Thank you!
HUUUGE SHOUT OUT TO G FROM GRISLEY TRUE CRIME!! It's all thanks to her amazing work and channel that I learned about your channel. Thank you so much to both of you!! Ok so honestly after going through all of the footage the first time i thought ok, this Jen lady is like my own mom. Disassociated most times, couldn't get a thing through her head unless she chooses to believe it, otherwise you're completely wrong (even if you're in fact 100% right, about what ever) But then going over them for a second and third time, listening to all of G's breakdowns, something is just constantly nagging at me that JEN was the one that wanted sweet Maddie to be taken away from us. Now I'm not saying she DID it. But I definitely feel she wanted her 'out of the picture' so her and that P3do can live their 'happy ever after'. I mean it doesn't take one to be an investigator to pick up that she was CLEARLY jealous of beautiful Maddie. (Just one of MANY theories that I've been pondering)
In the beginning Jenn was against Maddie being alone with Stephan. He played and groomed her guilt and trust. He even used Maddie to help make it happen. By getting Maddie to ask if they could have a sleep over night. He broke Jenn down and she caved. I also believe most of the other assaults happened during the times Jenn was asleep. Her roommate even stated she couldn't be woken. Once her medication kicked in. He made Jenn see the negative in Maddie. To believe she too had all the same illnesses Jenn had. So if Maddie ever did speak out about the truth. Jenn would less likely believe it. Jenn didn't have the internal motherly instinct she needed to protect Maddie. If a man would have continuously approached me regarding one of my children having a sleepover with him. Knowing I had already said NO! As a mother a RED FLAG would have alerted me to something being wrong. But this is just me and my thinking. Due to my raising I already lack trust in everyone. But mostly a male. The dog having wet spots from anxiety is another sign I would have noticed. Dogs have good senses in humans. He knew not to trust Stephan. Maddies also needing frequent assistance to remove bodily waste. If a child is eating healthy and staying hydrated. They shouldn't have any problem with their digestive system. Both MONSTER and Jenns soul purpose in waking up everyday was to take another pill and sleep. Why the remaining family didn't speak up is beyond me. The selfishness in this world needs to change. Tyler, the bio dad should have been given the opportunity to care for Maddie. As soon as Jenn was prescribed all those medications. Doctors do not care about their patients. Or the consequences being made for the patients while taking medication. They treat the symptoms and not the illness. Meaning, their lack of help would have never changed Jenns diagnosis from any mental or nervous disorders. Maddie needed someone to step in. But everyone quietly sat in the corner and watched her life being destroyed then ended.
The fact that Jenn wouldn’t allow Maddy sleepovers at home or friends’ houses because she didn’t know those dads and brothers, proves she’s not completely naive like she’s acting.
I feel like she only said that because it sounds good that man child pedo probably didn’t want Maddie to go to sleepovers out of paranoia and illogical hypothetical scenarios
When I first heard Jenn say that sterns “acted like he was the smartest guy in the room when he wasn’t “ I thought of you, strategic who has said this exact same line over and over again regarding sterns. Spot on strategic, spot on.
What grown man would be openly walking around in front of a child in their underwear? 😮. Did he walk around in front of the roommates in his underwear too?
I was referred over from Grizzly True Crime .. Glad to have another channel to follow! I believe Maddie had what is called a Trauma Bond with Sterns. I disagree with the term "crush." I understand the detective using "crush" to trigger Jen to turn on Sterns to help find Maddie & put Sterns away. Jen is a pathetic narcissistic worm & does not deserve to be called Maddie"s Mom. She allowed Sterns access to her girl to keep him around.. otherwise, he would be gone & on to the next child.
Yes. As a survivor of a nonconsensual relationship rife with SA, i developed s trauma bond to my abuser. I believed I loved him. Yet looking back, it’s very clearly not love. It was fawning to survive in a situation I felt I could not escape and fear of him. It was a way to maintain control and keep him from getting more violent. It took me years to get over that trauma bond. He did things to me I’ve never experienced before and I was never comfortable with, I was always reacting and under his control 100%. Destroyed my boundaries, degraded, dehumanized me, while my life fell apart around me. Still, I believed it was love because he had me so brainwashed and constantly told me he loved me so much, soul mate shit, blah blah. Lies and love bombing. The stages of narcissistic abuse in a relationship and their tactics need to be more widely known. I am glad that more people are starting to understand trauma bonds and things like gaslighting. The way to avoid these perps is to identity them before we let them into our lives, and hold them accountable when they do manage to worm their way in.
@@Patsanford220 I'm very sorry you went through such horrific trauma & abuse. Thank you for feeling safe enough to share your experiences. No child or person should ever have to go through what you & Maddie have. I pray you will continue on your journey of healing & sharing your story in hopes of helping other survivors / warriors of CSA. Stay strong 💪🏼 🙏🏼💙
@Patsanford220 you are welcome & you are a warrior, don't forget that ever & I'm so proud of you for not letting it destroy you! You are an amazing lady!! 🙌🏼 💐
This poor child fell between the cracks, protective services should have been involved with this family. That man ss is nightmare fuel with a body like a bag of custard
I can't believe this mother named Jenn never felt perv vibes from Stephan. Come on, really? Then she says she believed the sex stuff, but couldn't believe he hurt her. SMH, she like....ahhh yeah i believed he molested, raped, touched my daughter but he wouldn't kill her.....what??? Did her family ever confront her about him? Yet, grandmother didn't want him at her house. Jenn obviously blew them off because she wanted to believe what she wanted to believe, and if she admitted things, then she'd have to do something about it.....right?? She probably didn't want to be alone, and she knew this guy Stephan would be there during a dry spell. 🙄 😠 😡 👿 😤 🤬
He probably gaslit her both overtly and covertly. This kind of predator makes a person feel crazy and unable to trust their own thoughts and feelings . His MO was emotional manipulation by acting like the victim and a harmless non violent, non confrontational person. She did not ever know Serpent Sterns. The person he needed to fool the most was Jenn, so he put EVERY effort into doing just that. And he targeted her because she was easy to manipulate.
@Nous520 exactly and so perfectly said. I think the part that upsets me is that from outside looking in, I'm upset that she was so easily manipulated, or can you even allow someone to easily manipulate her. I was fooled by my bff, I watched her go after and sleep with anything that had a pecker. She always went for her friend's bf or husbands. I was friend's with her for 30+ years. I'm questioning who of mine she slept with, smh lol. If she did, it's because I allowed her to continue her behavior without really ex communicating her instead.
This detective really did do a great job of confronting Jenn on her very sketchy weird decisions… this guy knows what he’s doing in this interview for sure
NO NO NO WAIT! I Am Autistic and let me tell you I would never react the way that she is reacting, never! I would have difficulty in some cases to express my emotions and maintain eye contact but making weird things up? No.
So am I. I thought she seemed spectrumy at first but she is not. That was only because her daughter was said to be diagnosed previously and it’s genetic. It’s also commonly misdiagnosed as bipolar in women. She is not autistic. She’d meltdown with all that’s happening after being locked out of her house having her phone taken away and being held in that bright room for hours being stared at. Her spoons would be long gone. She’s missing emotions. they’re not in her eyes. Autistic people perhaps struggle with expressing emotions but they’re always in the eyes.
@@MsFantasEYES I totally agree , no autistic person I know, my son is on the spectrum as well and no way would I see any autistic person I know act like Jenn Soto. You are right ! I agree wholeheartedly! ☮️❤️
I started feeling some empathy for Jenn too after watching the interview last night on GTC. I had all sorts of emotions towards her but I left feeling sad for her. She couldn’t see the blessing that was entrusted to her, hopefully one day she will see who Maddie truly was. And if that’s while sitting in jail that’s fine by me.
As I think about it, the detective took the “dating” narrative with Maddie because he knows that this is how Jen saw it. Stephan was cheating on her with Maddie, Maddie was her competition. This interview came after the Woody Allen comments. All of this together makes it look obvious that she didn’t see this as abuse, she saw this as a dating relationship between Stephan and Maddie that Jen decided to accept. She didn’t report it as a crime because she didn’t see it that way. It was just sex stuff and it wasn’t evil. It was cheating. She is one messed up woman. I strongly suspect she herself was in a sexual relationship with an adult at Maddie’s age and didn’t see it as abuse - she saw it as love. So she transferred those feelings to her own daughter. It reminds me of the situation in Boston where the cop started sexually abusing a young girl and when she became an adult, the young girl, now a woman, was delusional about the nature of the relationship and got pregnant on purpose, leading the cop to kill her.
A non guilty mum wails so hard her voicebox breaks when you find this out. I am her and cannot sing again, or almost talk. That reaction of JS is covered in lies, she knew.
So let me ask those who thought Chris Sterns was cray..cray..for coming to detectives asking them to look further into Jennifer Soto...it's obvious SS must have sd something to them or they knew it all along about the SA...but regardless he went to authorities and ppl were down talking the poor man ...he was not defending his son's evil actions..he was simply saying that SS did it but was not alone..Jennifer Soto was too involved...and now after watching this video you all still think Chris Sterns was talking out of wack?? Do you all still think she is innocent and had no idea about the SA nor the murder?? I have sd it all along...she is GUILTY...from her smirks and laughs during her first interviews..to the "we" and "I" or "he" dropped her off at school comment..oh and the "i cant risk it comment" how about her "biggest fear" was for it to turn into a "Woody Allen" situation..and now this video??...if you all still think she is innocent I really don't know what to say or think...I have ALWAYS thought she was guilty and will continue to say she is GUILTY.. her day will come soon ...she will be behind bars... ✌🏻
I as well have thought she was guilty from the beginning & still do. She knew everything, allowed it, maybe even participated, an I believe had a direct hand in the de*th. I believe the same as you with CS, he is just saying that JS is guilty the same amount as SS. I hope Jenn gets arrested soon, then her & SS can rot in prison! She is a narcissistic psychopath! Poor Maddie never stood a chance with that as a mother! #JusticeForMaddie #ArrestJennSotoNow
As a csa survivor, my experience is when you became aware and try to say no, the perpetrator becomes more aggressive. It's possible she had a pregnancy scare but i believe she said no. He couldn't handle the rejection
There will never be any evidence saying Jen had no involvement because it's a FACT that she did. No matter which way you cut it, Jen Soto HERSELF admitted she was suspicious of what was going on and that she KNEW it wasn't right for Maddie and SS to sleep together despite sending them off to sleep together. She did this by saying she ALWAYS (meaning more than once) told SS her biggest fear was that it would turn into a Woody Allen situation and she told Maddie "No, it doesn't look right, it doesn't seem right..." when her and SS asked to sleep together. And her constantly downplaying and brushing off the SA on top of that, speaks volumes! She has next to no reactions to it and even went so far as to want to defend SS by telling his Dad to get him a lawyer and not to talk! It's all point blank obvious that she is guilty of knowingly neglecting Maddie, at the very least. Like the investigator said in this video, she played a big role in Maddie's passing. She also played a role in impeding the investigation. #ArrestJenSoto
Detective Kevin is a hero!! He said all the things to JS that we were ALL thinking. Ty for all the great commentary and analysis and for sharing your expertise @TrueCrimewithStrategicEyes. I don't agree with everything you say but you are SO professional, humble and astute. This show is a blessing! Ty.
The videos were an eye opener. I was shocked listening to the audio track, but seeing the video was just unbelievable. I hope JS and SS rot in hell. I dont believe JS didn't know this was going on for 5 years or so. RIP Maddie you deserved so much better.
"He treated her ike he treats you" What upsets me is that now we can see her physical reaction and it makes it worst. I wonder what her family is thinking, I hope they see this, theres no excuse! Poor Maddie.
Your welcome, I love a different point of view or someone to bounce ideas around in my head. This case particularly rube me the wrong way because I have a daughter that looks alot like Maddie and the same age too. I want justice for her so bad. I honestly see fault everywhere from the school to everyone in her life. Sometimes I wonder if anyone ever asked her if she was okay? Ty for your opinion
Jen is the worst person to interview. She doesn’t know anything, never seen anything. I would’ve been pulling out my hair if I was that detective. Dealing with a person like this would’ve aged me in 5mins.
Gisela thee best 👌 classy lady doesn't need or want praise , happy to share with other creators without causing drana , love her and why her community it's growing and growing ❤️
Narcissists CANNOT have empathy for others. In my opinion from experience with others similar, she is still concerned that she is going to say something that will affect HER and HER ONLY.
Dude, i literally flinched i was being slapped when he said "... pregnant" And if it was in reference to my 14 yo missing daughter? Id probably vomit. She just froze
Police work has to be sooo hard. They had to listen to her same story over and over, then this detective broke the dam and put a stop to JS and SS story.
Her explanation of the incorrect clothing Maddie was wearing is flawed. She FIRST told the police at the scene what Maddie was wearing and it was verbal, not written.
“MASTERFULL” He truly is a master, like you said in the past interrogation is art and science, research and evidence are the science and Detective Kevin showcased the art.
Wow! I felt the same way. You said everything I wanted to say and felt. I really did feel sorry for Jen too after I saw this interview. She had zero emotions or zero feelings for her offspring Maddie (RIP) I love your views. That chic is far gone coo coo 🕊 NOBODY'S HOME UPSTAIRS 😢
I was I’m grizxly’s live and was so happy she shouted you out bc while I was listening I was thinking Strategic eyes must hear this asap and I was happy to hear that you were in there too bc I knew you would be riveted and I was excited to see you put a video out on it . I just started the replay bc I missed your live and am so ready to hear what you have to say about this . Thanks for what you do and I respect and love your take on it. Gisela’ s commentary was great on this too
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Yes, I realized that she got something going on. Lights are on and no one is home
just looove yours and grizzlys channels, so much insight and valuable commentary. thanks for all of your hard work! a huge fan from vienna/austria ❤
Thank you , I was looking forward to your insight, watching now. Rip and justice for Maddie the concrete angel that still managed that big smile even with the horror she went through for years. I want to become a member but can’t find a link to join. I am on an iPhone, I even went to my browser to see if it was just in the app that it wasn’t an option but I couldn’t find it in the browser either. I love that this detective really gave it to her that her behavior is not normal for what happened to her daughter
Jenn Soto is NEVER going to be able to show her face in public after this video. The people will never forget this or forgive her for what Maddie had to suffer due to her negligence.
Casey Anthony must be sleeping well at night knowing another woman has taken her crown as the country’s worst mother.
She’s a REPULSIVE human being - aesthetically and otherwise. She was desperate and grateful to have a man in her life - therefore, if that meant turning a blind eye to him molesting her daughter, so be it. She is a leper now; probably safer in prison - where she belongs.
Even now, people need to respect the law that also protects her. Of course, her public image is damaged.
She annoys me!
I no.....Florida...that's the 1st person I thought about 😡
“I didn’t see her, I only saw him.” And there it is folks, one of the truest things that she ever said to the police. And that truth is at the essence of how Jennifer Soto lived her life. Despicable.
THIS. RIGHT. HERE.
I couldn't image not telling my daughter good morning & have a great day at school even if I woke up for 1 minute from my precious sleep! She just didn't care about Maddy. She looked at her as competition imo. I mean didn't even bother to be at her 13th birthday party. Work or not..a real mother knows that's a milestone you don't miss!! Then she wanted Maddy home that night to spend time with her but spent 30 minutes at the most again because of her precious sleep. Wow. I agree kids should have a bedtime especially with school the next day but this was a special occasion..her birthday party day. She was the worst imo..other than Sterns of course! God bless you Maddy! You will be missed even by strangers that never got the chance to know your beautiful soul! 😢
@@michellesmith1269your daughter is lucky sadly many/some kids are not 💔😔
@@IntegrityMeansAll that's so true & so sad!!
I think maybe JS is compartmentalizing.
She defended Stefan so hard that Maddie wouldn’t have told her
Yes! These interviews show exactly why Maddie stayed silent for so long. And another reason is, I assume by her always sleeping with Jen that she was desperate for her mother’s love and approval. She knew Jen was jealous of her so she tried to minimize her “connection” to Stephan
Jen's not crazy, she never forgets to protect herself...💚💜
Or SS.
That part! 🙌
@@Shayla-m4k
You spelled medicate wrong. 😉
@@candydodson1283
Amen!
@@vgoogleuser8136 where?
This woman should have NEVER had custody of a child.
Exactly why I blame the biological dad as well. He failed too!
Not even a goldfish!
It boggles my mind that she can talk abut the SA of her precious little one so casually. We, the public are more freaked out by it than she is ffs
Because she knew 😢👺
If I was the mom being interviewed they would just cancel it because I'd be bawling my eyes out and unable to talk.
Exactly! I know I cried REAL tears, not fake "ugly cry" like her
And throwing up from disgust.
This interrogation was a beautiful thing to watch. Kudos to detective Kevin.
It was so satisfying to watch this detective confront Jenn with all the questions we’ve been asking for MONTHS! Whether she’s ever charged or not, the police know she’s guilty of neglect and aiding and abetting. As do we all. Her life will never be the same.
If i had been shown pictures of my child in that situation, my first reaction would be to throw up. My second would get me arrested.
Madeline didn't have anybody to love her or protect her 💔 😔
When the police needed access to the townhouse, she did not go to her mother’s house. Even though they were broken up, she went to stay in a hotel w SS. She is a liar and is complicit.
I thought the same thing! Jen’s priority was Stephan. Period.
Exactly!! Why would she not say hey I'm going to be with my family because they are so worried and are trying to find Maddie I wanna be with them..the fact she's more concerned with comforting this p.o s is just more proof that whatever SS wants he gets!! I cam mot wait for this trial!!!
Do you really think he was gonna allow that? No way even if she wanted to.
@@kittykatFL23Maddie didn’t stand a chance!
@@Nous520 Allow that? 🤣 They were broken up for a long time at that point and he barely ever came over. The guy apparently didn't even have money for a hotel either. There's been 0 said by Jen or anyone else that he was violent towards her. So what are you talking about? Don't try to act like it was an abusive relationship because clearly, by Jen's words, it wasn't.
If Maddie was pregnant, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jen convinced Stephan that Maddy needed to go. That the pregnancy was going to get both of them into trouble.
I agree
Maybe they tried an at home ab0rtion? Ss was googling anesthesia before visiting
Well, now they are in trouble that is far worse. So if this was the case, it was a terrible choice on their part.
ooh maybe
She was upset with her DAUGHTER when she viewed those photos. She's one of those fu/cked up moms who grow to be jealous of their daughter 😢
My mom was BEAUTIFUL but she was jealous...I remember bra shopping with her when I was around 11 or 12.... But she was bringing me bras that were too small... I asked her for a larger size and she became angry. She literally said out loud, I'm going to be pissed if your breasts are bigger than mine 😮 And she was! We ended up having a tense and very confusing day of shopping. There were times I was told my hair and makeup made me look like a streetwalker and She tried to ban me from hair or makeup products. I was always dressed modestly, Because I did not like attention drawn to me, compliments would embarrass!
There were certain things in colors she would not let me wear. She absolutely refused to buy me black clothing because "black clothing is sexy" she claimed I was trying to be sexy. 🤔
I have three BEAUTIFUL and amazing daughters... I cheer them on everyday... There is NO WAY I could ever feel jealous or envious of them, I'm incredibly proud of each one! They too, have always Just naturally dressed modestly, they don't enjoy attention, but I would have never restricted certain colors or styles that is flattering on them.
I was ra/ped at 12 years old by a grown man, I didn't even tell her about it until I was in my late thirties. I was certain I would be blamed and that I would be in trouble for allowing that to happen! So I told no one!
I'll never understand mom's being jealous or feeling threatened by their daughters. This woman belongs in prison, I have a feeling she will go to prison at some point.
In my opinion, putting her in prison tomorrow would not be soon enough!
WOW. I’m so sorry you had to endure this and your mother was so overtly jealous and competitive with you AS HER CHILD.
My own mother chose my father over me after she found out he was a serial cheater. It pissed me off so much. I was 15 and knew everything that was happening, partly because they had zero boundaries around their sex stuff and partly because my dad would watch porn openly on the family computer in front of me, as I sat on the couch watching tv on Sunday afternoons. It disgusted me then and still does. I listened to them fight all the time and one I overheard was my dad trying to talk my mom into swinging. “What does it matter who’s f@cling in the bed next to us?!” He yelled. Again I felt so disgusted and angry that he was doing this to legitimize his cheating. He’s 72 and still a porn addict. I had to tell my mom recently that the amount of porn he consumes isn’t normal. “Really?” She asked.
She not only stayed after he cheated but became the ultimate Pick Me. I lost respect for both of my parents. She stopped being my mom and put my dad first, and wouldn’t make decisions as a mom for me alone . It was always ask your father, or she’d tell me my father and he’d say no. There was no guidance or parental emotional support from the age I was 14 on.
As a result, I’ve found myself the victim of men who resemble my father in ways I normalized back then, but which are anything but normal. I got groomed into a nonconsensual relationship at 36 by a man with power over my work and he essentially kept me in sexual captivity for a year until i escaped. I have CPTSD from this experience and have had 6 years of therapy and recovery.
This is the legacy of women choosing men over their children. Staying for the children in an abusive relationship is anything but beneficial to the child. Most of the time, staying means lots of conflict and dysfunction being modeled as normal. It does not equal prioritizing the child’s well being.
My mom told me last year that if she had it to do again, she’d have left my dad after he cheated. Bittersweet to hear, especially as they celebrated their 50th anniversary this year and I saw the forced smiles on my moms face.
My mom didn’t really see me as competition, but would make comments about my body or clothes looking too sexy or whatever. I’ve never felt comfortable looking “hot” in front of my dad. What does that say?
There’s such a thing as non contact child sexual abuse. Watching porn in front of your child is a big one. Coming to terms with that now at age 42.
❤❤❤❤ to everyone who’s experienced parents who don’t prioritize and protect them from things children shouldn’t have to know about.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. You’re a strong person and your children are fortunate to have you.
@@Patsanford220that’s horrible and I’m glad you are getting therapy. Being raised by parents who prioritize themselves over their children causes long lasting trauma for those children.
So sorry. Sounds exactly like my mom. But, she was also a viciously violent physical abuser. I remember my mom telling my sister and that it was "difficult to have beautiful daughters". We were older by that time and clubbing.
EXACTLY! Just like sje said, "I always told him[Stephan] I was afraid it would turn into a Woody Allen situation where the stepdaughtet would run away with the dad when she turned 18. And I told him he cant do that to me. I cant handle that" 🤯 She actually said, He cant do that TO ME. Not, he cant do that to MY DAUGHTER, but to her. Thats alk she was worried about. Keeping HIM around FOR HER. and whatever she had to do to keep him around, she was williny to do. She was JEALOUS of her own daughter. It reminds me ot the movie PRECIOUS.
JEN SHOULD BE CHARGED AND PUT IN PRISON, SHE HANDED MADDIE TO HIM ON A SILVER PLATTER AND IS INDIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR HER DEATH
Don't you think she would have been in jail already if the investigators had something on her?
I really believe that she was involved in the smurder if she didn't do it herself, she acts so dumb but it's a ACT . The white croc was found in her room the other croc was found in the dumpster she corrected SS on what she was wearing when she supposedly Never saw her that morning & she let her grown man snuggle with her daughter, why would she have pregnancy tests there Jenn Soto said she wasn't having sex with SS she made so many excuses for SS and even told the father to get him a lawyer AFTER she saw the photos of Maddie unalive in the car They were making 🤑 off the videos & maybe they tried S&M with Maddie & it went wrong bc they had a camcorder in the bedroom SS was on the dark web I feel in my heart Jenn Soto knew exactly what happened with her daughter bc SS was in a relationship with her daughter I know she can't consent but Jenn sent her child to bed with her boyfriend Yeah Right maddie didn't need ppl to put her to bed they tried portray Maddie as slow & had all these problems it's all lies to protect SS
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The reason she is not being charged is that they just can’t find direct proof of her being involved. They could technically charge her with at least child endangerment but they may just have concluded she is just that dumb. Although it does not have to be on purpose when a parent makes a bad decision that endangers the child in order to charge with child endangerment. Correct me if I’m wrong.
@@midnitdragoonThey have enough by Jennifer's own words. I'm not sure I listened to a single interview with her where the investigators didn't make it clear of their disdain and distrust of her.
Jen Soto HERSELF admitted that she knew sending her daughter to sleep with SS was wrong by saying she told Maddie "No, it doesn't look right, it doesn't seem right" when they asked. As well as admitting she was suspicious of what was going on with them by saying she ALWAYS told Stephan her biggest fear was that it would be a Woody Allen situation. So she could absolutely be charged with neglect.
She also impeded the investigation by giving a number of false statements, as well as telling the father of the man who she'd just been shown photos of R wording her daughter...to get him a lawyer (ultimately telling SS not to talk).
It wouldn't be the easiest case to prosecute considering there seems to be few messages on her phone other than "Maddy's no longer sleeping with me, it's too risky" (which is interesting considering she literally said Maddy always slept with her). But I don't believe it's that they CAN'T.
Jenn has the mind and reasoning of a teenager herself. She just doesn’t get it. It reminds me of trying to explain things to my teenage kids. So hard to sympathize with her. Some people should not have kids!
Agreed. She has zero emotional intelligence. Child services should have been involved as well I think given how medicated she was. Not a fit mother.
Totally agree. Reminds me so much of
communication during the teen years. You say something so impactful, so serious, with the facial expression...and they just stare at you and tell you "why" they felt or did what they did. No realization that ither people have needs/feelings. So weird for a Mom, that just all disappears for most women when they have children. You finally set your own needs aside, and you actually want to.
Just listen to that "I ASSUMED that I saw her" You don't ASSUME you saw something. You can assume you heard something, but you know you either did or didn't SEE your child on their last day on earth.
Why did the detective let her slide about the text “ Maddie’s not sleeping with me, I can’t risk it “ I’d have pulled it up and waited for her to explain.
She answered “I don’t know” in another interview.
I’m thinking she couldn’t risk being in the room as a witness/caught on film ... or she couldn’t risk it cuz she liked to participate .. or she couldn’t risk getting jealous and mad at ss .. couldn’t risk Maddie seeing her do drugs is the only possible other thought.
I am Autistic and have raised three children there is absolutely no ways Jen is Autistic!
I believe you.
I am as well but I could also see her being autistic because 1) it looks different for everyone and 2) just because we aren’t POS doesn’t mean she isn’t.
People can unfortunately be autistic and still and evil person.
Of course it isn’t a reason for her actions. But I do believe by some of her responses and physical mannerisms it looks a lot like autism.
She cried cause she was going to have the worst Birthday ever!!! But she didn’t cry for her baby girl’s pain 😡😡😡
Just like she "ugly cried " when the detective said he cheated on you for 3 years with your daughter! She cried bc he "cheated" on her! Not bc of Maddie's pain. Bc she didn't cry like that when shown the pictures of what happened to her!!!!
Never cries for Maddie. She blames Maddie and sticks up for Stephan always
No Jen the sexual stuff he did to your daughter Maddie is rape and its not fine!! None of it is fine how Jen is reacting is not fine either it blows my mind!
She says it is fine because she didn’t have to do it with him if he could have Maddie. She is disgusting and did not deserve to have a daughter. She is 100% just as guilty as SS. They both should ROT under the prison.
Maternal instinct immutably drives a mother to love, protect & respond to their child's needs.
The ONLY drive within Jennifer Soto is self pleasure and feeding her addictive personality. And it's quite obvious those are the only things she's ever been "hyper vigilant" about!
Justice for Madeleine Soto ⚖️
She has absolutely zero maternal instincts! It’s shocking and infuriating!
I do think Stephan groomed her first to gain access to Maddie, but there’s really no excuse given this went on so long, Jen was home the whole time, not a huge space, did her daughters laundry presumably, etc. the woody Allen comment. Saying the sex stuff wasn’t evil or it’s “ fine “. Calling Chris sterns and telling him to get Stephan a lawyer after being shown images of Stephan abusing her daughter.?Sooo many red flags point to her knowing and doing nothing.
This lady is the mastermind behind all of this. She is just playing the stupid role. Her and him are a predator couple she made him abuse maddie and she was involved all the way. She hatted maddy.
AGREE a THOUSAND PERCENT 🛑💯
I also agree 1000%
i am totally agreeing. no way she don't know.
We need a Maddy’s Law. If a parent is on disability and is a druggie, CPS needs to check on children and if there is a biological parent or other relative, they need to be removed. The environment of Maddy was screwed up on every level
I thought Maddie’s law was more about holding mothers accountable for their boyfriend’s crimes against their children. Jenn’s diagnosis and treatment are beside the point-if by law a mother must protect her child from a loaded gun, a mother should also be compelled by law to protect her child from her creepy boyfriend. At least that’s how I see it.
I agree with you about the psychopath vs sociopath. When I watched the "immunity" video she mimicked the detective when he used the phrase "game day decision". There's nothing that I've seen that indicates that Jenn is a sports fan but she grabbed that analogy like a drowning woman grabbing a rope. My brain said "wait a minute, this isn't right!" Psychopath fits the facts.
Jen Sotos concern is for herself and Stephan she constantly put Stephans well being before her own daughter! So very disturbing!!
Agreed. Her little girl had no chance 😭 where is her little girl father & why didn't he visit her 😔 😢😢
This is not unusual. My mom was the same in my opinion. Jenn’s concern was simply for herself! Can you imagine the judge who gave that child to that mother when the father was fighting for custody? They couldn’t have known but have to feel some guilt!
@@onemanstrash8233 I would hate to be the judge that gave custody to Jen over the father I imagine there is guilt felt over that decision now
@@lori2339 yep… but I guess the judge couldn’t see the future but I I were them I would feel
Horrible!!
She literally saw pics of him s.a madeline and told him to get a lawyer!! She's disgusting and repulsive
She's absolutely NOT autistic.
I’m not saying that she is or isn’t…. But strategic mentioning T-Rex hands…made me think…that she may have some signs of some type of autism.
In her mind, its ALWAYS Maddie doing wrong "what if she UPSET SS" & then magically, she's psychic & knows he strangled her & snuck her out in the morning...
No JS, you helped.
A THOUSAND PERCENT TRUE- JS STERNS is a MONSTER TOO “!
The dog collar was used to prop her head up in the car...it may of been used to strangle her.I think he thought she was pregnant and that was what jenn argued with her 3 weeks before! Stephan disaplined Maddie.Its so bad...
Listening to Detective Kevin put Jen’s feet to the fire was so cathartic. She deserves worse but at least SOMEONE wasn’t putting up with her BS- just like we ALL wanted. I will say, listening to Detective Kevin was like listening to YOU Strategic!!! You CALLED IT!! When he brought up the fact that Stephan was in Maddie‘s life since she was six years old, I thought to myself “he is proving Strategic right!” Like the detective said, Jen created the environment in which Maddie was ab*sed. No sympathy from me.
I listened to Grizzly's yesterday and couldn't wait until you covered it. I was so pissed off after hearing it.
Even after the detective laid it out for her, she still couldn't comprehend and still was all about SS.
And I loved the detective. He challenged her to try to make her brain see the truth.
Jen was always about herself and she was more concerned about having a man in her life instead of focusing on her daughter and raising her daughter.
I also don't think that Jen is slow. I think the meds are making her that way. She can put two and two together, like she did in this interview, she isn't dumb. She just needs someone to push her and not just sit back and let her be wishy washy. This detective was perfect. He pushed her and was stern with her.
I think she’s manipulative .. “playing slow” part of the game. Sometimes she asks responds like she’s fishing for info not actually answering the question. Example: they show pic of Maddie in front seat of ss car. They said she’s not sleeping and Jen says “she’s dead?” Quietly and high pitched ending .. she was trying to see what they knew.. testing it out. Seeing their reactions. I think she may have been the one who came up with the idea that csam was sold for money .. I def think she helped orchestrate the cover story.
I really loved how this D said "SS treats YOU & MADDIE THE SAME" Excellent work 👏🏾
I just finished watching Gisela’s video and was blown away. I thought the detective (Kevin?) was Awesome when he interviewed Jenn Soto!! It’s about time someone got in her face about what she was denying. I’d love to hear what Jenn’s clinical diagnosis is. This will be some crazy trial.
Her clinical diagnosis could be anything but she lacks love for her daughter and probably a sexual predator herself since her heyday slept in the same bed together
She only sobs for herself...her birthday is ruined. And she cries when the detective basically says that Stefan was cheating on Jenn with Maddie for years. She wasn't crying for Maddie then she was crying for herself!!!!
This detective was great!!! He definitely did his job and got her to say some things!
Come on that was not what she was saying. She had just realised her birthday was coming up and that it would be a birthday without Maddie because she is dead.
@@Nous520 agree to disagree
@@Nous520 Well she sure didn't say what you said either. In fact, it was only about a minute or so later she was fine and even laughed. Can you count how many times she said she missed Maddie? Said positive things about Maddie? Expressed the massive amount of guilt she SHOULD have? There is very clearly a major disconnect between her and her daughter/feelings for her daughter.
I mean, gosh dang it...come on, what Mother is shown photos of their 12 year old (maybe even younger bc I don't THINK it was the last night she was alive) daughter giving their boyfriend a BJ and their first damn thought is to contact their bf's Dad to get him a lawyer??? Essentially saying for him not to talk!
She even met with his Dad afterwards and wasn't upset, wasn't going off about the photos, nothing. She acted normal he said. So normal that he asked police what they thought about that. And as we can see in this interview, she's STILL very blase' about her daughter being R worded.
Like who gets shown these photos and are told their daughter is being SA'd and they honestly don't think the person doing it, the last person seen with her, couldn't have unalived her??
She 100% has shown she cares more for SS than her own daughter. Every time I watch this damn interview I connect more dots and get angrier.
@@Nous520 Oh, Nous, thou art the intellectual equivalent of a sea cucumber defending a pirate, trolling the depths of absurdity with the finesse of a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest. Pray, do tell-does your brain come with an "out of order" sign, or is it merely a prototype for future failures?
Right that’s what I caught too! She cried that he was “cheating on her” with her daughter, not crying that he was sa her daughter.
So Jen couldn’t take her meds for Maddie’s birthday to be “normal” but she could for her disappearance? Got it.
Good point!!! I've never hear anyone point that out.🤔
Ppl think she was the perfect patsy fos tephan, but if she is the psychopath maybe stephan was the perfect patsy for her and maddie was the bait. Its a terrible thing to say, but that's how she could keep him in her life and control him
Yes, I think so. She was very much in control in that household, telling everyone when to go to bed, and where, and everything else. She found this loser she could control and then reeled him in with her daughter
WHAT IF HE DID SEX STUFF, FINE _ Yeh JS you were shown PHOTOS OF IT HAPPENING & STIIIIILLLL asked for a lawyer AND SLEPT IN THE SAME ROOM after KNOWING THIS 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
The first time she cries is when Det. Kevin equates Sterns’ SA of Maddie as him cheating on her. (Jen) Before that, the abuse was “fine.” 😕
Yep. The only other time she sobs like that is when she realized her birthday is the next day "the worst birthday ever" she says. Again, crying for herself and not her daughter
This was the first video I ever watched from you. All of your commentary is 100% so ON POINT.
It took me 3 years, thousands upon thousands of dollars, mental anguish, ups downs and all arounds of bad news but I finally was able to bring a healthy baby girl into the world.
Listening to this at the crack of dawn bc she’s hungry and holding her a little tighter bc poor Madeline deserved SO MUCH BETTER.
Loving how you’re not sugar coating or mincing words. I hope this beautiful baby girl is looking down seeing the love and support she has now and desperately deserved growing up
Thank you!
HUUUGE SHOUT OUT TO G FROM GRISLEY TRUE CRIME!! It's all thanks to her amazing work and channel that I learned about your channel. Thank you so much to both of you!!
Ok so honestly after going through all of the footage the first time i thought ok, this Jen lady is like my own mom. Disassociated most times, couldn't get a thing through her head unless she chooses to believe it, otherwise you're completely wrong (even if you're in fact 100% right, about what ever) But then going over them for a second and third time, listening to all of G's breakdowns, something is just constantly nagging at me that JEN was the one that wanted sweet Maddie to be taken away from us. Now I'm not saying she DID it. But I definitely feel she wanted her 'out of the picture' so her and that P3do can live their 'happy ever after'. I mean it doesn't take one to be an investigator to pick up that she was CLEARLY jealous of beautiful Maddie. (Just one of MANY theories that I've been pondering)
I can so relate to everything you said,both first part and second, and I whole heartedly agree.
In the beginning Jenn was against Maddie being alone with Stephan. He played and groomed her guilt and trust. He even used Maddie to help make it happen. By getting Maddie to ask if they could have a sleep over night. He broke Jenn down and she caved. I also believe most of the other assaults happened during the times Jenn was asleep. Her roommate even stated she couldn't be woken. Once her medication kicked in. He made Jenn see the negative in Maddie. To believe she too had all the same illnesses Jenn had. So if Maddie ever did speak out about the truth. Jenn would less likely believe it. Jenn didn't have the internal motherly instinct she needed to protect Maddie. If a man would have continuously approached me regarding one of my children having a sleepover with him. Knowing I had already said NO! As a mother a RED FLAG would have alerted me to something being wrong. But this is just me and my thinking. Due to my raising I already lack trust in everyone. But mostly a male. The dog having wet spots from anxiety is another sign I would have noticed. Dogs have good senses in humans. He knew not to trust Stephan. Maddies also needing frequent assistance to remove bodily waste. If a child is eating healthy and staying hydrated. They shouldn't have any problem with their digestive system. Both MONSTER and Jenns soul purpose in waking up everyday was to take another pill and sleep. Why the remaining family didn't speak up is beyond me. The selfishness in this world needs to change. Tyler, the bio dad should have been given the opportunity to care for Maddie. As soon as Jenn was prescribed all those medications. Doctors do not care about their patients. Or the consequences being made for the patients while taking medication. They treat the symptoms and not the illness. Meaning, their lack of help would have never changed Jenns diagnosis from any mental or nervous disorders. Maddie needed someone to step in. But everyone quietly sat in the corner and watched her life being destroyed then ended.
@@MaoriMumma Hugs 🫂🫶
Interesting that Jenn Soto was so disabled by anxiety & bipolar that she couldn’t hold a job but she manages to get herself to Disney world.
Love that Strategic admires Detective Kevin and cares about his craft so much that he asks for mentorship. Mark of a great person.
Jenn cries when she has been caught.
The fact that Jenn wouldn’t allow Maddy sleepovers at home or friends’ houses because she didn’t know those dads and brothers, proves she’s not completely naive like she’s acting.
Completely contradicting herself 💯🛑”!
I feel like she only said that because it sounds good that man child pedo probably didn’t want Maddie to go to sleepovers out of paranoia and illogical hypothetical scenarios
I LOVE LOVE LOVVVVE DETECTIVE KEVIN 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Detective Kevin is my hero! Thanks to him for being the conscience Jen doesn’t have.
When I first heard Jenn say that sterns “acted like he was the smartest guy in the room when he wasn’t “ I thought of you, strategic who has said this exact same line over and over again regarding sterns. Spot on strategic, spot on.
The tears are strong when her jealousy comes out.
Strategic, your channel, your rules ❤. I'm here for it!
What grown man would be openly walking around in front of a child in their underwear? 😮. Did he walk around in front of the roommates in his underwear too?
And he wld get out of the shower completely naked too while Jennifer and Maddie were on the bed....
@@ozdesignsinc5800ugh, sick. I thought it was said he didn’t like his body so much he refused to go to the beach. And he’s exposing himself like that?
I was referred over from Grizzly True Crime .. Glad to have another channel to follow!
I believe Maddie had what is called a Trauma Bond with Sterns.
I disagree with the term "crush." I understand the detective using "crush" to trigger Jen to turn on Sterns to help find Maddie & put Sterns away.
Jen is a pathetic narcissistic worm & does not deserve to be called Maddie"s Mom. She allowed Sterns access to her girl to keep him around.. otherwise, he would be gone & on to the next child.
Yes. As a survivor of a nonconsensual relationship rife with SA, i developed s trauma bond to my abuser. I believed I loved him.
Yet looking back, it’s very clearly not love. It was fawning to survive in a situation I felt I could not escape and fear of him. It was a way to maintain control and keep him from getting more violent.
It took me years to get over that trauma bond. He did things to me I’ve never experienced before and I was never comfortable with, I was always reacting and under his control 100%. Destroyed my boundaries, degraded, dehumanized me, while my life fell apart around me. Still, I believed it was love because he had me so brainwashed and constantly told me he loved me so much, soul mate shit, blah blah. Lies and love bombing.
The stages of narcissistic abuse in a relationship and their tactics need to be more widely known. I am glad that more people are starting to understand trauma bonds and things like gaslighting. The way to avoid these perps is to identity them before we let them into our lives, and hold them accountable when they do manage to worm their way in.
@@Patsanford220 I'm very sorry you went through such horrific trauma & abuse. Thank you for feeling safe enough to share your experiences. No child or person should ever have to go through what you & Maddie have. I pray you will continue on your journey of healing & sharing your story in hopes of helping other survivors / warriors of CSA. Stay strong
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@@KIMBER68 thank you for your kindness!!! ❤️ NO ONE should ever experience this kind of crime, I wouldn’t wish it on the worst person in the world.
@Patsanford220 you are welcome & you are a warrior, don't forget that ever & I'm so proud of you for not letting it destroy you! You are an amazing lady!! 🙌🏼 💐
This poor child fell between the cracks, protective services should have been involved with this family. That man ss is nightmare fuel with a body like a bag of custard
Has Jen’s mother ever told investigators why she refused to have Stephan in her home? Surely, Jen and her mother had conversations about this!
I don’t recall interviews with Jenn’s mom…. We all want to hear what she has to say!
@@justjanethernandez I've also heard that Jenn said that her mother didn't like him.
Maybe Jen was involved with the molestation So strange
Sounds likely.. This sicco chic seems to be afraid that her sicco bf is going to tell on her…
I think a lot of us believe that to be the case.
I think so too. I think she liked to hear about what happened, too
⚖️warriors for justice!!!!!!! Well said - Justice for Maddy!!!!!
I can't believe this mother named Jenn never felt perv vibes from Stephan. Come on, really? Then she says she believed the sex stuff, but couldn't believe he hurt her. SMH, she like....ahhh yeah i believed he molested, raped, touched my daughter but he wouldn't kill her.....what??? Did her family ever confront her about him? Yet, grandmother didn't want him at her house. Jenn obviously blew them off because she wanted to believe what she wanted to believe, and if she admitted things, then she'd have to do something about it.....right?? She probably didn't want to be alone, and she knew this guy Stephan would be there during a dry spell. 🙄 😠 😡 👿 😤 🤬
He probably gaslit her both overtly and covertly.
This kind of predator makes a person feel crazy and unable to trust their own thoughts and feelings .
His MO was emotional manipulation by acting like the victim and a harmless non violent, non confrontational person.
She did not ever know Serpent Sterns.
The person he needed to fool the most was Jenn, so he put EVERY effort into doing just that. And he targeted her because she was easy to manipulate.
@Nous520 exactly and so perfectly said. I think the part that upsets me is that from outside looking in, I'm upset that she was so easily manipulated, or can you even allow someone to easily manipulate her. I was fooled by my bff, I watched her go after and sleep with anything that had a pecker. She always went for her friend's bf or husbands. I was friend's with her for 30+ years. I'm questioning who of mine she slept with, smh lol. If she did, it's because I allowed her to continue her behavior without really ex communicating her instead.
JS is more protective over SS’ & his parents than MS
This detective really did do a great job of confronting Jenn on her very sketchy weird decisions… this guy knows what he’s doing in this interview for sure
I can't even tell you how much I absolutely love and appreciate you and your channel!!! We are warriors for Maddie!! Best statement ever
NO NO NO WAIT! I Am Autistic and let me tell you I would never react the way that she is reacting, never! I would have difficulty in some cases to express my emotions and maintain eye contact but making weird things up? No.
So am I. I thought she seemed spectrumy at first but she is not.
That was only because her daughter was said to be diagnosed previously and it’s genetic. It’s also commonly misdiagnosed as bipolar in women.
She is not autistic. She’d meltdown with all that’s happening after being locked out of her house having her phone taken away and being held in that bright room for hours being stared at. Her spoons would be long gone.
She’s missing emotions. they’re not in her eyes. Autistic people perhaps struggle with expressing emotions but they’re always in the eyes.
@@MsFantasEYES I totally agree , no autistic person I know, my son is on the spectrum as well and no way would I see any autistic person I know act like Jenn Soto. You are right ! I agree wholeheartedly! ☮️❤️
On top of everything else they probably took her birthday money .Awful people
I started feeling some empathy for Jenn too after watching the interview last night on GTC. I had all sorts of emotions towards her but I left feeling sad for her. She couldn’t see the blessing that was entrusted to her, hopefully one day she will see who Maddie truly was. And if that’s while sitting in jail that’s fine by me.
Strategic I truly admire how humble and confident you are, that it allows you to show praise where it’s due. You are truly trustworthy.
Self preservation is her priority
As I think about it, the detective took the “dating” narrative with Maddie because he knows that this is how Jen saw it. Stephan was cheating on her with Maddie, Maddie was her competition. This interview came after the Woody Allen comments. All of this together makes it look obvious that she didn’t see this as abuse, she saw this as a dating relationship between Stephan and Maddie that Jen decided to accept. She didn’t report it as a crime because she didn’t see it that way. It was just sex stuff and it wasn’t evil. It was cheating. She is one messed up woman. I strongly suspect she herself was in a sexual relationship with an adult at Maddie’s age and didn’t see it as abuse - she saw it as love. So she transferred those feelings to her own daughter. It reminds me of the situation in Boston where the cop started sexually abusing a young girl and when she became an adult, the young girl, now a woman, was delusional about the nature of the relationship and got pregnant on purpose, leading the cop to kill her.
A non guilty mum wails so hard her voicebox breaks when you find this out. I am her and cannot sing again, or almost talk. That reaction of JS is covered in lies, she knew.
I’m sorry mama 😔
@@MKUltra42 Xo you're never okay and always to blame. Groomed by 'gay' friend, it worked.
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@@MKUltra42 The overwhelming feeling isn;t in any Louise Hay Book, THAT'S FOR SURE..:0
@@AUSTRALIANAMADE Who is Louise Hay?
IMO JS is crying when he says 2020, cos she's like FUCK they know all the way back then....
What you have said for the lasts few months is what this investigator said to her,
Thanks for noticing
Jen needs to be held accountable. Period.
Some of the @buse HAD to have happened in the same bed as Jenn because there were THOUSANDS of pictures and videos. THOUSANDS.
Only took 38inches of the ‘B E D’ as JS SAYS 😡😡😡”!
So let me ask those who thought Chris Sterns was cray..cray..for coming to detectives asking them to look further into Jennifer Soto...it's obvious SS must have sd something to them or they knew it all along about the SA...but regardless he went to authorities and ppl were down talking the poor man ...he was not defending his son's evil actions..he was simply saying that SS did it but was not alone..Jennifer Soto was too involved...and now after watching this video you all still think Chris Sterns was talking out of wack?? Do you all still think she is innocent and had no idea about the SA nor the murder?? I have sd it all along...she is GUILTY...from her smirks and laughs during her first interviews..to the "we" and "I" or "he" dropped her off at school comment..oh and the "i cant risk it comment" how about her "biggest fear" was for it to turn into a "Woody Allen" situation..and now this video??...if you all still think she is innocent I really don't know what to say or think...I have ALWAYS thought she was guilty and will continue to say she is GUILTY.. her day will come soon ...she will be behind bars... ✌🏻
I as well have thought she was guilty from the beginning & still do. She knew everything, allowed it, maybe even participated, an I believe had a direct hand in the de*th. I believe the same as you with CS, he is just saying that JS is guilty the same amount as SS. I hope Jenn gets arrested soon, then her & SS can rot in prison! She is a narcissistic psychopath! Poor Maddie never stood a chance with that as a mother! #JusticeForMaddie #ArrestJennSotoNow
As a csa survivor, my experience is when you became aware and try to say no, the perpetrator becomes more aggressive. It's possible she had a pregnancy scare but i believe she said no. He couldn't handle the rejection
Jesus please bring clarity and truth out of this tragic situation.
This detective did 👏a👏great 👏job. Finally we get to hear someone grilling Jenn and saying it like it is.
There will never be any evidence saying Jen had no involvement because it's a FACT that she did. No matter which way you cut it, Jen Soto HERSELF admitted she was suspicious of what was going on and that she KNEW it wasn't right for Maddie and SS to sleep together despite sending them off to sleep together. She did this by saying she ALWAYS (meaning more than once) told SS her biggest fear was that it would turn into a Woody Allen situation and she told Maddie "No, it doesn't look right, it doesn't seem right..." when her and SS asked to sleep together.
And her constantly downplaying and brushing off the SA on top of that, speaks volumes! She has next to no reactions to it and even went so far as to want to defend SS by telling his Dad to get him a lawyer and not to talk!
It's all point blank obvious that she is guilty of knowingly neglecting Maddie, at the very least. Like the investigator said in this video, she played a big role in Maddie's passing. She also played a role in impeding the investigation.
#ArrestJenSoto
Thank you for your content - great show!!!😊 that detective had greatttttt questions
Unbelievable &
Unimaginable 😭
So heartbreaking 💔 💔💔💔💔
Detective Kevin is a hero!! He said all the things to JS that we were ALL thinking. Ty for all the great commentary and analysis and for sharing your expertise @TrueCrimewithStrategicEyes. I don't agree with everything you say but you are SO professional, humble and astute. This show is a blessing! Ty.
The videos were an eye opener. I was shocked listening to the audio track, but seeing the video was just unbelievable. I hope JS and SS rot in hell. I dont believe JS didn't know this was going on for 5 years or so. RIP Maddie you deserved so much better.
"He treated her ike he treats you" What upsets me is that now we can see her physical reaction and it makes it worst. I wonder what her family is thinking, I hope they see this, theres no excuse! Poor Maddie.
So scary ,that this woman was a mother
58:05 I thought we were all safe ( sounds like contraception talk)
Strategic I also softened to Jenn after watching this interview which I never expected. Thank you for your amazing channel! You are a joy to watch!
Powerful Strategic!! Love your perspective on this very tragic case!! 🙏
❤️RIP Maddie❤️
I can not thank your channel and u enough for the insight and healing I have gained with my own SA .❤
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Your welcome, I love a different point of view or someone to bounce ideas around in my head. This case particularly rube me the wrong way because I have a daughter that looks alot like Maddie and the same age too. I want justice for her so bad. I honestly see fault everywhere from the school to everyone in her life. Sometimes I wonder if anyone ever asked her if she was okay? Ty for your opinion
Replay crew 8:37 thank you strategic eyez for creating a healthy non-toxic environment. ❤
Jen is the worst person to interview. She doesn’t know anything, never seen anything.
I would’ve been pulling out my hair if I was that detective. Dealing with a person like this would’ve aged me in 5mins.
It really is so sad! This was so difficult to watch!
It was STILL so hard for her to say, hes the worst person in the world. She could barely get it out of her mouth.
With all due respect, her name is Gisela. ❤ My girl.
Thanks for your perspective, Strategic! 👍 Enjoyed the video.
Gisela thee best 👌 classy lady doesn't need or want praise , happy to share with other creators without causing drana , love her and why her community it's growing and growing ❤️
@@lynnhaveron6375agreed❤
Another aspect of this is WHY have MADELINE,S BIRTHDAY 🎂 at her mother ‘s House 🏡:
WHY? did her Mother know what was Happening , like TRULY “!
Narcissists CANNOT have empathy for others. In my opinion from experience with others similar, she is still concerned that she is going to say something that will affect HER and HER ONLY.
Thanks for your work. Is so nice to hear about your professional point of view.
Dude, i literally flinched i was being slapped when he said "... pregnant"
And if it was in reference to my 14 yo missing daughter? Id probably vomit. She just froze
Police work has to be sooo hard. They had to listen to her same story over and over, then this detective broke the dam and put a stop to JS and SS story.
Her explanation of the incorrect clothing Maddie was wearing is flawed. She FIRST told the police at the scene what Maddie was wearing and it was verbal, not written.
“MASTERFULL” He truly is a master, like you said in the past interrogation is art and science, research and evidence are the science and Detective Kevin showcased the art.
No shame in her soul .
Wow! I felt the same way. You said everything I wanted to say and felt. I really did feel sorry for Jen too after I saw this interview. She had zero emotions or zero feelings for her offspring Maddie (RIP) I love your views. That chic is far gone coo coo 🕊 NOBODY'S HOME UPSTAIRS 😢
I was I’m grizxly’s live and was so happy she shouted you out bc while I was listening I was thinking Strategic eyes must hear this asap and I was happy to hear that you were in there too bc I knew you would be riveted and I was excited to see you put a video out on it . I just started the replay bc I missed your live and am so ready to hear what you have to say about this . Thanks for what you do and I respect and love your take on it. Gisela’ s commentary was great on this too
I saw it too and agree, but I am angry with her without the sympathy! I think she knew, or she didn’t care as long as she kept Stephan!