Jay, you mentioned you are in Kansas on one of the videos. Are you around KC metro area? If so, I would like to talk with you and come by and see your unit if possible. I have one on order but am having second thoughts. Seeing some videos where it is quite loud.
Thanks for the video!! I seem to recall some discussion on this in one of the FB groups and it was being suggested not to use the house grounding rod and it should be a separate one. Any issues using the same one? Also, I planned to run my grounding wire down behind a down spout next to my AC pipes which are also running down there. Do you see any issues with arcing in that scenario?
@@kevinkleinmann There was a FB conversation, and the conclusion was that all grounds must be connected together. If you use separate grounding rods, you must wire them together with 6 AWG wire or thicker. (Code requires it, and your electronics will thank you.) Your AC pipes are also grounded, so there is a chance for arcing. The gutter may or may not be grounded during a storm, so hard to say. With a direct lightning strike, there is no reasonable way to prevent all damage. I heard a story about someone's gutter/roof getting hit directly and it blew the gutters off the house! This is mainly for nearby lightning strikes and power surges.
@@kevinkleinmannif you hammer a grounding rod 8 feet down, everything is already connected. You don't need to connect them. The earth is your connection. I confirmed it with a multimeter. FWIW, if your house gets hit by lightning, a 8 gauge wire isn't going to do anything. I installed one more for static building up on the data center.
@@kevinkleinmann If you have access around your breaker/fuse box, you can trace it from there. The grounding wire is generally different from all the others, since it's just one wire (and many times it is bare, with no insulation, unlike the others). Just note that it may connect to more than one ground location. For example, mine connects to the rebar at the top of my basement foundation (indoors) as well as out the side of my house to the grounding rod. Also, grounding wires are supposed to be as short as possible, so the ground points are likely very close to the breaker box.
@@thecodingart-tca A few different reasons: 1. Many PoE devices are galvanically isolated, so the grounds don't connect. 2. The gauge of ethernet wire is only around 24 AWG, which means there would be too much resistance to be used as a proper ground in the case of nearby lightning strikes or surges. A shielded cable would be less resistance, but code in the USA requires at least 10 AWG for antennas. (A lot higher for something like a lightning rod.) 3. Relying on the ground that travels inside your house and connects to all of your sensitive equipment (switches, routers, modems, computers, TVs, etc.) is not good if it is your house and equipment that you are trying to direct the electrical current and damage away from.
@@GenesisMuseum😁 I love heights! Just gotta make sure you have the right shoes and ensure you have good foot and/or hand holds at all times. Thanks for watching!
Jay, you mentioned you are in Kansas on one of the videos. Are you around KC metro area? If so, I would like to talk with you and come by and see your unit if possible. I have one on order but am having second thoughts. Seeing some videos where it is quite loud.
@@robertreidmd I am, so feel free to find me on the Yarbo FB groups and message me on FB messenger. We'll see if we can work something out.
@@JayWozznice I live in Olathe.
@@CusterFinancialCoaching Me too!
Thanks for the video!! I seem to recall some discussion on this in one of the FB groups and it was being suggested not to use the house grounding rod and it should be a separate one. Any issues using the same one? Also, I planned to run my grounding wire down behind a down spout next to my AC pipes which are also running down there. Do you see any issues with arcing in that scenario?
@@kevinkleinmann There was a FB conversation, and the conclusion was that all grounds must be connected together. If you use separate grounding rods, you must wire them together with 6 AWG wire or thicker. (Code requires it, and your electronics will thank you.)
Your AC pipes are also grounded, so there is a chance for arcing. The gutter may or may not be grounded during a storm, so hard to say. With a direct lightning strike, there is no reasonable way to prevent all damage. I heard a story about someone's gutter/roof getting hit directly and it blew the gutters off the house!
This is mainly for nearby lightning strikes and power surges.
@@JayWozz Thx! So if you are unaware of where your house grounding rod would be, any suggestions on how to go about finding it?
@@kevinkleinmannif you hammer a grounding rod 8 feet down, everything is already connected. You don't need to connect them. The earth is your connection. I confirmed it with a multimeter. FWIW, if your house gets hit by lightning, a 8 gauge wire isn't going to do anything. I installed one more for static building up on the data center.
@@kevinkleinmann If you have access around your breaker/fuse box, you can trace it from there. The grounding wire is generally different from all the others, since it's just one wire (and many times it is bare, with no insulation, unlike the others).
Just note that it may connect to more than one ground location. For example, mine connects to the rebar at the top of my basement foundation (indoors) as well as out the side of my house to the grounding rod.
Also, grounding wires are supposed to be as short as possible, so the ground points are likely very close to the breaker box.
Why not just ground over PoE? I’m a bit confused on why a second ground would be needed.
@@thecodingart-tca A few different reasons:
1. Many PoE devices are galvanically isolated, so the grounds don't connect.
2. The gauge of ethernet wire is only around 24 AWG, which means there would be too much resistance to be used as a proper ground in the case of nearby lightning strikes or surges. A shielded cable would be less resistance, but code in the USA requires at least 10 AWG for antennas. (A lot higher for something like a lightning rod.)
3. Relying on the ground that travels inside your house and connects to all of your sensitive equipment (switches, routers, modems, computers, TVs, etc.) is not good if it is your house and equipment that you are trying to direct the electrical current and damage away from.
short answer: lightning
Nice job, but...NGL. Watching you up on a roof trying to install while creating a video making me nervous.
@@GenesisMuseum😁 I love heights! Just gotta make sure you have the right shoes and ensure you have good foot and/or hand holds at all times. Thanks for watching!