Excellent. CEE and Kurtis in the morning at 07:00 with my coffee, as I prepare to get up, then Swan Valley with Max in the evening, as I'm getting ready to drop off at 22:00. All the best from the UK.
Those holders are exactly like my Collis Magic Chuck. I do however like the ejection tool for your. Mine just has the slot for the taper wedge. It looks like it has as much slop as mine though. That is quite a cute little radial.
A competing brand (Polish ?) of QCTH, each bit holder had a conical slip ring ( or taper, can't remember ) that mated up with a conical seat in the main tool adaptor when the vertical pressure took up the play in the Z axis, ( 0.1 - 2 mm Z ?? ). Conical slip ring caused each bit holder to center in adaptor, but only while drill bit was under Z pressure. The 2 Russian FOGs in the tool & die shop liked it.
Very nice little radial there Max. With a tickle up will be a pretty thing too. Extremely useful things radial arm drills. That quick change set up could prove useful, Quicker than bashing out morse tapers certainly. Your shed’s looking better every viewing! Thanks for the video.
That's a great small radial arm drill, Max. You and Josh are a pleasure to watch. You both say it as it is. In the real world. Looking forward to the metal spraying and testing. Cheers Tony
You could also modify the tool holder by adding a little taper at the very end. Then put some threads on the end of the tooling and make a nut with the same tapper and set screw so you can adjust the amount of engagement. But flame spraying would be a lot faster. just an idea if you wanted to get the most amount of accuracy you could get.
I have several made by Archer in the UK, available used very cheaply now its basically obsolete tooling. They were designed to be changed out without stopping the spindle, something that you definitely wouldn't be allowed to do in industry nowadays. They seem to have about the same amount of slop in the design. I think they would be good drilling using jigs made up with drill bushings, or if the part had the holes laid out accurately and piloted on say a Bridgeport with a dro, them moved to a big drill to get large holes in quickly.
Hello Max. I have the same 'Magic Chuck" as Josh, made by Collis. They are very handy. I always thought they should have had optional holders that had a much closer fit for spotting holes. Now I'll get to see the results of that once you spray and machine yours. One thing I noticed near the end of the video with your chuck is that it was wobbling quite a bit. The chuck itself should run dead true. Maybe yours was bent at some point in the past? One other thing I noticed was when you lowered the arm on your drill the elevation motor and gearbox lifted up quite a bit as they were pushing down on the arm. You had your back turned to it when it happened. It was enough movement that it looked like it might fall off. I'm sure you know about it but I thought I should mention it just in case. That drill will be a handy tool. I still use mine quite a bit even though I have my HBM running. Have a good weekend. Ken
I've found the' drop' on radial arm spindles and some milling spindles can be a pain in the backside, I put it down to backlash in the gear feed Also when you get wear on the radial arm, you lock it and the damn thing moves somewhat
So, we talked about our face mills, Mine is the round disk Lovejoy 4 in mill. It has been sounding a bit off lately, like a click. So today I measured the disks, and it had .006 variations between the teeth. Mine is micro adjustable, so i am in the process of tuning it. i will show a short video of it tomorrow
This tooling reminds me of self centering tap and die tooling. It can wobble until it contacts the work, then it’s steady. Maybe they understood that when designing this. I bought a new 1/2” Waltstrom R-8 quick change chuck for my mill about 20 years ago. I think I’ve used it a dozen times. Somehow, the anxiety of changing tools while it’s rotating at speed is too nerve wracking for me most of the time.
Max, Nice addition to the suite of tooling. Although I must confess my favorite piece of fixturing was that awesome flame cut strap clamp @ 10:40. Any idea how many decades that strap has been in use and making money? 👍👍
That is one Italian Metal Eating Mother!😂. I have a chinesium metal nibbling baby.😮. A wee bit of WD & scotch brite with elbow grease (as you usually do). Maybe a bit of fresh color to lighten it up, and you have a hole puncher for the rest of your days! SCORE!!! 😊. The quick change, looks like a couple of thousand of “shim” will help gobs, but…..if the hole is centered it doesn’t really seem to effect the overall drilling. For this project it would seem like a TLAR status applied. That Looks About Right 😊. Isn’t always critical for exacting accuracy, eh?
Looks like a good machine Max, took me back to the early 90's on an old Asquith. The play in the quick change is superb for reaming to ensure good size (guess you already know that). What, no changing tools with the spindle running??? Oh yeah, UA-cam 😂😂😂😂🏴
Hi Max, That quick change system saves a lot of time especially if used with a jig plate, the bushes centralise the holes without the need for a spotting drill and if you use removable bushes you can drill, counterbore, chamfer and tap a hole pretty rapidly. I like the idea of building up the adaptors to take a bit of the wiggle out. Nice little radial drill you got yourself there. Best wishes, Mal.
Hi Max, I like it the way it is, just replace the necessary bits and drive it like you stole it. We had two large Kitchen & Wade radial arm drills in our machine shop, the large chrome plated name plate used to catch my eye walking past them.
That drill is just begging to be cleaned up, polished & painted. Yes taking out some of the play in the quick change tooling might be interesting, as well. Angle plates are coming along well by the looks. Never a dull day in your shop. Looking forward to more work on the JFMT lathe eventually, that’s got to be close to getting all done some day. No shortage of “projects” in your shop. My projects list is so long now that more get removed off the list as I forget them than by getting completed. 😂😂👍
Trade you a 100 count box of red pencils for that little drill...after you get it cleaned up of course. Haha. Appreciate you Max! Keep posting video's we will keep watching and learning!!
nice bit of bonus footage there on how you made the angle plates and the radial arm drill will look a treat when you get it all cleaned up also a nice fix for the holders to get a bit more precision out of them they have there aplearcations for not very precise drilling any thing better you can use the Mill Cheers Max
G'day Max. This an Excellent review on the Radial Arm Drill as well as the quick change tool holders. Drills holes, without problems. The only suggestion, because you have the knowledge & equipment is to build up all the worn insets by metal spraying, & grind them back for a Max close Tolerance fit, which will stop a lot of problems down the track. Excellent video, waiting for the next one 🎉😊
With the tool holders i think i would measure the male holders if they are all the same i would tighten the female holder that way all tooling would be a good fit
That can not be easily done with these holders . As long as the one for a spotting or centre drill are tight , all will be good . Does not matter if drill bits & taps have a bit of side play . 👍
G'day Max, lovin your videos. I have noticed at 11:00 what looks to me an adjustable height block under the left corner with a brass knob. Did you make that/them and if so, is there a video of the making of it/them? Keep up the great wotk you do 👍
Not impressed with the 'quick change tooling' (seems to be a very old system) - I think it's failings led to the 'kwik-switch' system - which has a precise taper.
Excellent. CEE and Kurtis in the morning at 07:00 with my coffee, as I prepare to get up, then Swan Valley with Max in the evening, as I'm getting ready to drop off at 22:00. All the best from the UK.
Likewise U.K.
Thank for sending us Allen Millyard .
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the show Max 🍻 🇦🇺
No worries 👍
Those holders are exactly like my Collis Magic Chuck. I do however like the ejection tool for your. Mine just has the slot for the taper wedge. It looks like it has as much slop as mine though. That is quite a cute little radial.
Cheers Josh . The smallest radial i have ever seen !!! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop surprisingly, yours is not the smallest one I've ever seen. One of my customers bought one smaller.
A competing brand (Polish ?) of QCTH, each bit holder had a conical slip ring ( or taper, can't remember ) that mated up with a conical seat in the main tool adaptor when the vertical pressure took up the play in the Z axis, ( 0.1 - 2 mm Z ?? ).
Conical slip ring caused each bit holder to center in adaptor, but only while drill bit was under Z pressure. The 2 Russian FOGs in the tool & die shop liked it.
Thanks 👍
I mostly run cnc lathes at work, but every time I get to use our radial drill is fun. Our quick change system is slightly different, same idea though.
Thanks . These ones were common in the days before CNC was such a big thing . 👍
I used the quick change holders on production fixtures with guide bushings.
No worries , they are a massive time saver . Cheers 👍
Very nice little radial there Max.
With a tickle up will be a pretty thing too.
Extremely useful things radial arm drills.
That quick change set up could prove useful,
Quicker than bashing out morse tapers certainly.
Your shed’s looking better every viewing!
Thanks for the video.
Cheers 👍
That's a great small radial arm drill, Max. You and Josh are a pleasure to watch. You both say it as it is. In the real world. Looking forward to the metal spraying and testing. Cheers Tony
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the video.
No worries 👍
You could also modify the tool holder by adding a little taper at the very end. Then put some threads on the end of the tooling and make a nut with the same tapper and set screw so you can adjust the amount of engagement. But flame spraying would be a lot faster. just an idea if you wanted to get the most amount of accuracy you could get.
No worries 👍
I have several made by Archer in the UK, available used very cheaply now its basically obsolete tooling.
They were designed to be changed out without stopping the spindle, something that you definitely wouldn't be allowed to do in industry nowadays. They seem to have about the same amount of slop in the design.
I think they would be good drilling using jigs made up with drill bushings, or if the part had the holes laid out accurately and piloted on say a Bridgeport with a dro, them moved to a big drill to get large holes in quickly.
Yes , a great time saver for repetition work . Grabbing them with small tool is not to bad , would not do it with larger drill bits ! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop the Archers have a free spinning collar on the MT tool holders so you can grab that before releasing the chuck.
Thanks for sharing 👍 see you're using your wedges 😅
Yes . They are a great bit of tooling . Cheers 👍
Would sure come in handy on a radial arm like that
That's for sure . Cheers Adam 👍
Nice to see what the proper tool for getting the drills out looks like. Nice handy size that radial arm drill cheers max👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
You could always try loctiting some shim stock around the quick changers to test things out.
Could do , but without the loctite . I will spray it . Thanks 👍
Hello Max. I have the same 'Magic Chuck" as Josh, made by Collis. They are very handy. I always thought they should have had optional holders that had a much closer fit for spotting holes. Now I'll get to see the results of that once you spray and machine yours. One thing I noticed near the end of the video with your chuck is that it was wobbling quite a bit. The chuck itself should run dead true. Maybe yours was bent at some point in the past? One other thing I noticed was when you lowered the arm on your drill the elevation motor and gearbox lifted up quite a bit as they were pushing down on the arm. You had your back turned to it when it happened. It was enough movement that it looked like it might fall off. I'm sure you know about it but I thought I should mention it just in case. That drill will be a handy tool. I still use mine quite a bit even though I have my HBM running. Have a good weekend. Ken
Cheers Ken . The elevation assy needs a bit of investigation . All seems to be bolted down internally . 👍
Thank you Max!
No worries 👍
Nice drill max 👍
Cheers 👍
this is a realy short one max.
but the radial drill works fine.
see you at the next one.
cheers ben.
Cheers . The next one is longer !!! 👍
I've found the' drop' on radial arm spindles and some milling spindles can be a pain in the backside, I put it down to backlash in the gear feed
Also when you get wear on the radial arm, you lock it and the damn thing moves somewhat
My one moves a touch . Have to repair the lock lever on the column & adjust the drill head guides . 👍
So, we talked about our face mills, Mine is the round disk Lovejoy 4 in mill. It has been sounding a bit off lately, like a click. So today I measured the disks, and it had .006 variations between the teeth. Mine is micro adjustable, so i am in the process of tuning it. i will show a short video of it tomorrow
I will keep an eye out for it 👍
Hi Max. I looks so far that all the old machines you have are winners, cant wait for updates on the repairs on them. Cheers
Thanks 👍
This tooling reminds me of self centering tap and die tooling. It can wobble until it contacts the work, then it’s steady. Maybe they understood that when designing this. I bought a new 1/2” Waltstrom R-8 quick change chuck for my mill about 20 years ago. I think I’ve used it a dozen times. Somehow, the anxiety of changing tools while it’s rotating at speed is too nerve wracking for me most of the time.
Lol . Yes , i turn the machine off as well ! We have a saying here in Australia , Billy Bunt not Silly Cu*t ! 👍
I love it, "small radial drill". I know they get bigger, but it is still a beast. Cheers Max.
Thanks Rob . Smallest one i have ever seen ! 👍
Good video friend Max,,very good machines love old school
Thanks 👍
Max, Nice addition to the suite of tooling. Although I must confess my favorite piece of fixturing was that awesome flame cut strap clamp @ 10:40. Any idea how many decades that strap has been in use and making money? 👍👍
Lol , i hacked that out many years ago working in the gold fields !!! 👍
That is one Italian Metal Eating Mother!😂. I have a chinesium metal nibbling baby.😮. A wee bit of WD & scotch brite with elbow grease (as you usually do). Maybe a bit of fresh color to lighten it up, and you have a hole puncher for the rest of your days! SCORE!!! 😊. The quick change, looks like a couple of thousand of “shim” will help gobs, but…..if the hole is centered it doesn’t really seem to effect the overall drilling. For this project it would seem like a TLAR status applied. That Looks About Right 😊. Isn’t always critical for exacting accuracy, eh?
No worries . Cheers 👍
Looks like a good machine Max, took me back to the early 90's on an old Asquith. The play in the quick change is superb for reaming to ensure good size (guess you already know that). What, no changing tools with the spindle running??? Oh yeah, UA-cam 😂😂😂😂🏴
Lol , i am not grabbing the buggers on camera !!! 👍
Even with the run out once you engage the "tip" it appears to settle into doing the job. No buggering around. Good onya
Thanks . 👍
Hi Max, That quick change system saves a lot of time especially if used with a jig plate, the bushes centralise the holes without the need for a spotting drill and if you use removable bushes you can drill, counterbore, chamfer and tap a hole pretty rapidly. I like the idea of building up the adaptors to take a bit of the wiggle out. Nice little radial drill you got yourself there. Best wishes, Mal.
Thanks 👍
Nice handy addition to the shop!
Thanks . 👍
Hi Max, I like it the way it is, just replace the necessary bits and drive it like you stole it.
We had two large Kitchen & Wade radial arm drills in our machine shop, the large chrome plated name plate used to catch my eye walking past them.
No worries . I think it was the K&W's that had the ongoing issue with the lock system for the head . 👍
That drill is just begging to be cleaned up, polished & painted.
Yes taking out some of the play in the quick change tooling might be interesting, as well.
Angle plates are coming along well by the looks.
Never a dull day in your shop.
Looking forward to more work on the JFMT lathe eventually, that’s got to be close to getting all done some day.
No shortage of “projects” in your shop.
My projects list is so long now that more get removed off the list as I forget them than by getting completed. 😂😂👍
Cheers Ian 👍
Thx for the vid.
No worries 👍
Max your drill has the power to do the job these new drills can't come close to the older ones with the power and strength great value for your shop
Thanks 👍
Trade you a 100 count box of red pencils for that little drill...after you get it cleaned up of course. Haha. Appreciate you Max! Keep posting video's we will keep watching and learning!!
Cheers 👍
Nice radial drill Max. I never seen that quick change tooling before. Always learning.
No worries . 👍
nice bit of bonus footage there on how you made the angle plates and the radial arm drill will look a treat when you get it all cleaned up also a nice fix for the holders to get a bit more precision out of them they have there aplearcations for not very precise drilling any thing better you can use the Mill Cheers Max
Thanks 👍
nice little radial drill
Thanks 👍
Stout machine 👍
Thanks 👍
Very well presented and interesting video Max, as always. Looking forward to a video on cold metal spraying. Regards, Ken
Thanks 👍
Looks hot down there !!
Nice drill !!
Thanks . Hot yesterday , bloody cold today !!! 👍
G'day Max. This an Excellent review on the Radial Arm Drill as well as the quick change tool holders. Drills holes, without problems. The only suggestion, because you have the knowledge & equipment is to build up all the worn insets by metal spraying, & grind them back for a Max close Tolerance fit, which will stop a lot of problems down the track.
Excellent video, waiting for the next one 🎉😊
Thanks 👍
Another awesome video young max
No worries 👍
Cheers Max !
No worries 👍
That' a really nice machine. I'm sure you will fix the play problem.
We shall sort it Rusty ! 👍
Nice one Max 👍🇳🇱
Thanks 👍
With the tool holders i think i would measure the male holders if they are all the same i would tighten the female holder that way all tooling would be a good fit
That can not be easily done with these holders . As long as the one for a spotting or centre drill are tight , all will be good . Does not matter if drill bits & taps have a bit of side play . 👍
great video thanks
No worries 👍
G'day Max, lovin your videos. I have noticed at 11:00 what looks to me an adjustable height block under the left corner with a brass knob.
Did you make that/them and if so, is there a video of the making of it/them?
Keep up the great wotk you do 👍
They were a gift from a group of youtubers . The video is called , A Few Good Men . About 2 years ago . The guys each did videos of their parts . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop, thanks for the reply. I think I remember something about that series.
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Cheers 👍
Thanks Maximimus 😁
No worries 👍
So, in order to maintain accuracy with the quick change hardware, instead of using a centre pop, you need to use a centre bangetty f'ken bang ;)
Forgot about that one ! 👍
How many thou build up would you need Max?
I would probably take better care of that drill than you, but I don't have any room for it! 🤤😢😭😢😭
Not sure , have not measured it yet . 👍
Thats a very sloppy fit on that quick change. Weird?
If they are tight , you can not quick change them . Back in the day , the tool was often changed with the machine still running . 👍
Try a heavy knurl in one first.
They are hardened ! 👍
i didn't consider that. @@swanvalleymachineshop
Algorithm boost comment.
Thanks Joe . 👍
Not impressed with the 'quick change tooling' (seems to be a very old system) - I think it's failings led to the 'kwik-switch' system - which has a precise taper.
Have not seen the Kwik switch stuff . It is an old system , but still works generally . 👍
A "diamond in the ruff" !! Thanks for the introduction.
No worries 👍