While the new Earthrise is by far my favorite toy of G1 Prime now, I will always hold a soft spot for the original Classics mold. It's not a perfect G1 Prime, but it's a damn fun mid-2000's Optimus Prime toy.
pretty good, but the way the panels hang off the arms have always low key annoyed me. That and the fact there's no way to hide Prime's head without the windvane.
While I love SIEGE, I find it funny that the best Optimus we've ever really gotten at retail was immediately rendered obsolete by Earthrise, doing everything great about it better. The only real downside about ER is that there are some Quality control issues that vary by figure and the windows jutting out in robot mode. However, I'm willing to accept the small compromise as necessary to fit the Matrix feature and sleek Truck mode.
Nah the only thing it really does better in my opinion is a more show accurate alt mode. I still think the engineering and overall robot mode design is way better on siege prime.
I personally hate the Earthrise one. Like, the obsolete Matrix he can’t even hold, the gray on the legs visible from all angles, the fake grill, the lackluster trailer and the face is unacceptable.
I painted over much of the yellow. G1 had yellow "arrows" on the arms, so I reapplied yellow to a small area near the hands, in shape of an arrow. I painted the yellow vents on the forehead, straight-up silver, which worked fine! Now, he's nearly "perfect", for my tastes.
There was a Takara version of the Classics Prime as Cloud Optimus Prime which is the classics mould but with G1 animation colours. I've got it as well as Siege and Earthrise Prime.
Prime has the yellow triangles on his forearms, which is probably where the yellow on the arms of Classics Prime came from. IMO, the windvane on the back looks better if you flip it around so the front is facing the ground. It kind of has that Zelda Hylian Shield thing going on then. And you can attach the rifle to it to create a pseudo smokestack effect over the shoulders. The truck kibble on the forearms is the one thing I can't easily ignore, though as far as it goes i guess it could have been worse. At least they rotate so they don't extend beyond the hands. IIRC the smokestack gun was also black, but it had a little silver paint to make it pop a bit.
NGL, even after Earthrise, I STILL much prefer the '06 Optimus and Henkei Megatron. I find the constant revisits to G1 boring and stale, and the never-ending attempt at making the most cartoon accurate Optimus and Megatron frustrating. I miss the days when they could get bolder and more interesting, like with RID '01 and Unicron Trilogy. Classics evokes the iconography of Optimus without being boringly slavish to the '80s.
AMAZING COMPARISON VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The yellow on Classics Prime's arms was meant to homage the yellow arrow stickers on the arms of G1 Prime. Siege Prime's best weapons storage in truck mode is the peg hole in the middle top section of the robot mode legs, which you forgot to transform. Amazing video Jcc2224, I just subscribed. ;D
@@missyreed1736 I mention in the video about doing that down the road, but I'm kind of curious about the rumored Siege Leader Prime, so I may wait to do it then.
When he was brand new, fresh off the line as a kid in 2005, those clear hinges on the arm I never had any issues. I can see why after 15 years old you’d be worried, the grays on him are already yellowing
What do u guys think is more worth buying? Platinum Edition one shall stand one shall fall set which comes with a classics optimus prime and classics megatron. btw megatron gets a new paint job which looks more like g1 megatron! Or... Siege megatron and optimus?
You can kinda get a pseudo-gun mode out of Siege Megs, but honestly I think him being a tank is way more practical and cool and fits his character more. I think it's worth it for sure.
I'd have to compare Siege Megs to my United Megs, so I dunno if I wanna do that since the United is painted perfectly. I don't plan on getting Siege Sideswipe though.
The seige one looks pretty cool. Definitely an improvement over that classics one. have you seen the new Bumblebee Studio Series Optimus? it looks pretty damn good. Great video!
I'm glad you decided to choose good, ole Classic Optimus. To be honest, though that forearm 'kibble' really bugs me, I still have a soft spot for the guy and I'm still rather fond of his weaponry in particular, even more than the Siege Prime, who is, basically, a retail, Voyager sized MP -10. Beautiful.
Cyber Silver Outside of size classes being big enough to warrant their price tags, scale is never something I cared about. I couldn't care less about how toys of characters are out of scale when put beside others from the same line. Now, in the cases of SS and Siege, if the scale was made so we got bigger leaders, and that meant a more deluxe sized SS Jazz, then I'd have no problem. Would also not have a problem if the size classes did not take a $5 price increase.
"Who holds an axel at the tip of the handle?" Literally everyone who uses an axe when chopping with it. You use the weight of the axe head to chop through the object that needs to be chopped.
That's just for a brute-force chop. When you're fighting you'd want to have a center-grip on the axe as well to be able to guide and control it better.
But beyond swinging you don't want to hold it at the bottom. If you're just holding it, using it to block, or holding it with two hands. It looks fine in chopping poses, but weird all the rest of the time.
I always thought Classics Optimus would've made a good update to Armada/Energon/Cybertron Optimus (aside from the head sculpt) but he's way too sleek and angular to be a representation of the original G1 character. I got the Deluxe version instead, which had a really terrible vehicle mode but a pretty good robot mode.
The battle damage isn't too bad for me. But i would prefer to not have it. I wish the battle damage or clean versions were 50/50 variants so people can decide what they want. I have ultra magnus and i think I'll leave him as is. I'm not confident enought to use acotonr or model paint.
I've been meaning to make a GI Joe vid, but I haven't had any ideas come to me just yet. And I can't currently, I don't have the vintage Cobra Commander.
Man, this must be destiny, I was watching my two Optimus Prime figures and I was thinking very loudly: "man, what a big cool mother@#* is Prime, I adore him!" And I was thinking of him all day. So it's very surly that you uploaded a video of two Primes. By the way, one of those Primes was the Transformers Cyberverse Ultimate Class Optimus Prime ( what a long name for God's sake!) And I was wondering: what do you think of him? I think that it's a solid figure, except for the Matrix Mega Shot gimmick, which can be troublesome for some kids who wants to play with him, but, overall a good figure. What do you think?
I really like the Ultimate Cyberverse Prime. I wish his hands didn't have truck mitts on it, and the Matrix gimmick is a little hair-triggered and awkward, but it's a fun big figure, no regrets getting it for $30. Him and Ultra Shockwave are the winners of this line so far.
@@Jcc2224 I would like to buy a Shockwave figure of cyberverse. I know a lot of people have problems with his alt mode, but I kinda like the idea that he always has a cybertronian alt mode. Also the figure that I would love to have is Megatron
I personally enjoy reviews where I can always be getting a good look at the figure, so I always film them at this distance. I have no plans to change that.
An then, i still have the classics, i have it since im 3 year old, that figure is good, but then when i was see the siege, ill change my mind, ill buy that thing. Sorry for my english
Did you like the Bumbblebee movie? I liked it. Way better than the Michael Bay Transformer movies. I liked the first transformers movie out of the 5 Michael Bay ones.
I'm to say this before I before I watch the video I prefer classics optimus over siege because it doesn't tease a matrix and the classics mold looks better as nemesis prime anyway Edit I'm not finishing this video because he's literally nitpicking the yellow paint details and complaining about the arm cibple that's better than classics megatrons giant cibple wings
My man Classics Prime is an awesome toy but I'm not gunna sit here and act like the excess yellow and arm kibble ISN'T a flaw. It's a review, I gotta cover everything. Meg's giant wings are a thousand times worse.
Look I know the arm kibble is a bit of a flaw I was very angry at other things before watching this I don't see the problem with the yellow paint i don't think it's a problem if I can't think of a reason it shouldn't be there but it can't think of a reason it should be there too make of that what you will
Reason #1 the yellow shouldn't be there: Optimus Prime has never had that much yellow on him and it looks weird Reason #2: See Reason 1 They put it there for the sake of making it different. In my opinion the repaints of him with less yellow look a thousand times better. The Age of Extinction version is my preferred.
"How far we've come" is kind of an ironic statement here since, as I'm sure you're aware, there's a reason they kept going back to the well and reissuing the original Classics Optimus as late as 2015 (and actually wasn't there another one in the Platinum line after that?) and it's because the quality of the Generations figures didn't improve, it declined. Siege actually represents a "regression" to 2006 levels of build quality and I'm all for it.
When it comes to clever engineering, sculpt, and design, I think we've progressed, but you're right when it comes to build quality and durability finally going back to an older time - Leader Overlord feels more like a Cybertron figure and Leader Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus feels like a knockoff in comparison.
That's quite the disrespect towards the amazing engineering and design that goes into many modern Transformers toys. Besides the die cast a lot of G1 toys weren't that well produced and were prone to breaking, I think Transformers toys are better designed as toys now than they used to be. Out of all my G1 toys I have one of the only ones I'm not afraid of breaking is my G1 Hot Rod.
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Classics Optimus will always be my favourite mold. Something about it is just awesome
While the new Earthrise is by far my favorite toy of G1 Prime now, I will always hold a soft spot for the original Classics mold. It's not a perfect G1 Prime, but it's a damn fun mid-2000's Optimus Prime toy.
pretty good, but the way the panels hang off the arms have always low key annoyed me. That and the fact there's no way to hide Prime's head without the windvane.
While I love SIEGE, I find it funny that the best Optimus we've ever really gotten at retail was immediately rendered obsolete by Earthrise, doing everything great about it better. The only real downside about ER is that there are some Quality control issues that vary by figure and the windows jutting out in robot mode.
However, I'm willing to accept the small compromise as necessary to fit the Matrix feature and sleek Truck mode.
Nah the only thing it really does better in my opinion is a more show accurate alt mode. I still think the engineering and overall robot mode design is way better on siege prime.
I personally hate the Earthrise one. Like, the obsolete Matrix he can’t even hold, the gray on the legs visible from all angles, the fake grill, the lackluster trailer and the face is unacceptable.
I painted over much of the yellow. G1 had yellow "arrows" on the arms, so I reapplied yellow to a small area near the hands, in shape of an arrow. I painted the yellow vents on the forehead, straight-up silver, which worked fine! Now, he's nearly "perfect", for my tastes.
6:09 ....then you WHOOOP 😂😂
i just found ur channel dude and im glad i did,very nice videos!
There was a Takara version of the Classics Prime as Cloud Optimus Prime which is the classics mould but with G1 animation colours. I've got it as well as Siege and Earthrise Prime.
Prime has the yellow triangles on his forearms, which is probably where the yellow on the arms of Classics Prime came from.
IMO, the windvane on the back looks better if you flip it around so the front is facing the ground. It kind of has that Zelda Hylian Shield thing going on then. And you can attach the rifle to it to create a pseudo smokestack effect over the shoulders.
The truck kibble on the forearms is the one thing I can't easily ignore, though as far as it goes i guess it could have been worse. At least they rotate so they don't extend beyond the hands.
IIRC the smokestack gun was also black, but it had a little silver paint to make it pop a bit.
NGL, even after Earthrise, I STILL much prefer the '06 Optimus and Henkei Megatron. I find the constant revisits to G1 boring and stale, and the never-ending attempt at making the most cartoon accurate Optimus and Megatron frustrating. I miss the days when they could get bolder and more interesting, like with RID '01 and Unicron Trilogy. Classics evokes the iconography of Optimus without being boringly slavish to the '80s.
AMAZING COMPARISON VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The yellow on Classics Prime's arms was meant to homage the yellow arrow stickers on the arms of G1 Prime. Siege Prime's best weapons storage in truck mode is the peg hole in the middle top section of the robot mode legs, which you forgot to transform. Amazing video Jcc2224, I just subscribed. ;D
perhaps Siege Optimus would bring the same feeling I had when I first saw the Classic Optimus
“Makes it feel to yellowy”
~Jcc2224 2019
Transforming Nail
Nailed it 👌
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please stop doing this guys i really don't care or like it
J4 how about you do a new versatile with G1 Optimus versus Siege Optimus
@@missyreed1736 I mention in the video about doing that down the road, but I'm kind of curious about the rumored Siege Leader Prime, so I may wait to do it then.
Disney Star Wars sucks why am I still up at 4 am in the morning please send help
I thought you kept a long nail for coke. Y’know, popping the tab easier.
Is no one going to talk about how out of pocket this comment is??
When he was brand new, fresh off the line as a kid in 2005, those clear hinges on the arm I never had any issues. I can see why after 15 years old you’d be worried, the grays on him are already yellowing
What’s the other classics Optimus mold you had that was dope
It was from a Toys R Us Age of Extinction Evolution 2 Pack!
that surfboard thing I use it as sideswipe jet pack
Siege line is awesome
It might be the best generations line
Dan200 Tf maybe
Indeed :)
Siege Prime is Bae.
😂😂😂
He was bae.... then came Earthrise and now he is bae...
Very nice review. I like your video's. Your voice reminds me of John Malkovich's voice. 👍 Thanks for sharing. And keep the sweet reviews coming
Excessive yellow is amazing, and you know it.
Classics Prime is my main man. Or . . . Bot. Siege is cool. Classics is cooler.
Nothing beats the original :D
Same here, although the Takara version for me. I have 8 versions of this mold
Siege and Earthrise are all good figures, and accurate to the original G1, I find a lot of them pretty boring visually.
Yeah I get a more Armada or like anime, realistic, modern vibe to it
I actually bought the yellow on the Optimus prime, so I’m glad the classics got more yellow😊
What do u guys think is more worth buying?
Platinum Edition one shall stand one shall fall set which comes with a classics optimus prime and classics megatron. btw megatron gets a new paint job which looks more like g1 megatron!
Or...
Siege megatron and optimus?
Siege for sure.
@@Jcc2224 The only thing holding me back from siege is that megatron can't turn into a gun. U really think its worth it?
You can kinda get a pseudo-gun mode out of Siege Megs, but honestly I think him being a tank is way more practical and cool and fits his character more. I think it's worth it for sure.
Siege
Why does Classics Optimus Prime looks like he'd feel like a Better Toy than Siege
Classics vs seige megatron or sideswipe
I'd have to compare Siege Megs to my United Megs, so I dunno if I wanna do that since the United is painted perfectly. I don't plan on getting Siege Sideswipe though.
@@Jcc2224 oh ok. Seige sideswipe is a great figure tho.
Classics megaton was cool but not a good representation of G1 megs at all it was cool that he was a gun though
its funny how the classics one is a deluxe while the new one is a voyager
Both of these are Voyagers. They did do a Deluxe Classics Prime though but I didn't show it.
@@Jcc2224 ooooooo my bad
The seige one looks pretty cool. Definitely an improvement over that classics one. have you seen the new Bumblebee Studio Series Optimus? it looks pretty damn good.
Great video!
I have. It's by far my most anticipated figure of 2019, I can't wait for it to come out.
Thanks for watching man!
Studio Series 38 is my favorite prime since MP 10. SS 38 is what movie Prime always should have been.
I'm glad you decided to choose good, ole Classic Optimus.
To be honest, though that forearm 'kibble' really bugs me, I still have a soft spot for the guy and I'm still rather fond of his weaponry in particular, even more than the Siege Prime, who is, basically, a retail, Voyager sized MP -10.
Beautiful.
I has both and while CLASSICS prime was good, SIEGE prime is WAY BETTER!💯
Siege Optimus is my go to Optimus (at least until Earthrise Optimus comes out. Freaking hyped for him)
I've actually compared both of my figures as well. If anyone claims we're getting less for more, I point them to the classics figure.
SS Jazz is a scout that you pay $20 for.
@@ShatteredGlassUnicron obligatory reply about Jazz being in scale.
He also has a complex transformation that wouldn't be used for your Scouts.
Cyber Silver Outside of size classes being big enough to warrant their price tags, scale is never something I cared about. I couldn't care less about how toys of characters are out of scale when put beside others from the same line.
Now, in the cases of SS and Siege, if the scale was made so we got bigger leaders, and that meant a more deluxe sized SS Jazz, then I'd have no problem.
Would also not have a problem if the size classes did not take a $5 price increase.
I absolutely love the Siege version of Optimus! I would gladly have paid 70 dollars for this figure, especially once I had it in hand. Awesome vid!
The 2006 classic prime can only be described in one word:
K I B B L E
Mattia Longhin TRUE
But hey not a toy theory
That’s a TOY FACT
They're both good
"Who holds an axel at the tip of the handle?" Literally everyone who uses an axe when chopping with it. You use the weight of the axe head to chop through the object that needs to be chopped.
That's just for a brute-force chop. When you're fighting you'd want to have a center-grip on the axe as well to be able to guide and control it better.
Hay it’s mustard prime.
The axe should've been orange in the blade.
Optimus along with the rest of the siege are cybertron modes dude
Me and Classics Optimus were born in the same year.
...
God I am old...
Another youngin thinking they're old.
I’m pretty sure the yellow should be on the Arms and I like how the classic looks
Yeah, there should be a yellow arrow on the arms on the Siege one.
No! In the cartoon are red arrows
Classics prime is amazing what you talking about it looks great and feels great an is amazing
Ikr?
I hold an axe by the bottom, creates more leverage for swinging.
But beyond swinging you don't want to hold it at the bottom. If you're just holding it, using it to block, or holding it with two hands. It looks fine in chopping poses, but weird all the rest of the time.
@@Jcc2224 He's always ready to throw it. 😉
I have both siege Optimus prime and they are not open
I always thought Classics Optimus would've made a good update to Armada/Energon/Cybertron Optimus (aside from the head sculpt) but he's way too sleek and angular to be a representation of the original G1 character. I got the Deluxe version instead, which had a really terrible vehicle mode but a pretty good robot mode.
Classic Prime is what earthrise wants to be,
You can tell he is looking at the deracions. Cuz of how many puases are in the video
The only siege figure I have so far is sound wave
It would be cool if the new version had the matrix of leader ship but luckily we got earth rise Optimus prime that fixes that
You forgot the seige knees. They have hole for storage of shield.
The battle damage isn't too bad for me. But i would prefer to not have it. I wish the battle damage or clean versions were 50/50 variants so people can decide what they want. I have ultra magnus and i think I'll leave him as is. I'm not confident enought to use acotonr or model paint.
I do believe Hasbro is making a special version without battle damage down the line.
I still have to get the Siege figure.
Same
There’s a 3rd party armor upgrade kit for classics optimus prime
jf you need to put the neepads out with your 5 mile long nail
Who swings an axe like that? Anyone who's ever used an axe presumingly considering that's how the physics work lol.
Hay could you do some videos on gi joe figures. Like cobra commander and crimsion guard and the like. Just thought id ask.
What about a old vs new on cobra commander figure.
I've been meaning to make a GI Joe vid, but I haven't had any ideas come to me just yet.
And I can't currently, I don't have the vintage Cobra Commander.
Hmmm could you do a review on the gi joe retaliation classic cobra commander with the crom face plat. Just thought id ask keep up the great work man.
Where exactly did you get Siege Optimus? Or should I ask, has the Siege line hit shelves yet, and if not, when will they?
Walmart, and yeah, it's hitting shelves. I hear Target is getting them too.
also get the og animation repaint seig mold
Yo what's the name of that Aoe prime you have shown in this video?
It's from the Toys R Us Evolution set.
Lol I never liked the yellow trim on the arms either mine started to flake off as a kid so I just the yellow paint off completely
Nice
Man, this must be destiny, I was watching my two Optimus Prime figures and I was thinking very loudly: "man, what a big cool mother@#* is Prime, I adore him!" And I was thinking of him all day. So it's very surly that you uploaded a video of two Primes. By the way, one of those Primes was the Transformers Cyberverse Ultimate Class Optimus Prime ( what a long name for God's sake!) And I was wondering: what do you think of him? I think that it's a solid figure, except for the Matrix Mega Shot gimmick, which can be troublesome for some kids who wants to play with him, but, overall a good figure. What do you think?
I really like the Ultimate Cyberverse Prime. I wish his hands didn't have truck mitts on it, and the Matrix gimmick is a little hair-triggered and awkward, but it's a fun big figure, no regrets getting it for $30. Him and Ultra Shockwave are the winners of this line so far.
@@Jcc2224 I would like to buy a Shockwave figure of cyberverse. I know a lot of people have problems with his alt mode, but I kinda like the idea that he always has a cybertronian alt mode. Also the figure that I would love to have is Megatron
Classics Optimus with less yellow is weird.
seige is really really cool
Any chance you'll compare Siege and SS Bumblebee Prime?
As soon as I get the SS BB Prime I'll likely compare them in the review!
The siege is pretty good but I think the classic is a little better in my opinion
That camera is a little to close might want to pull back for future videos.
I personally enjoy reviews where I can always be getting a good look at the figure, so I always film them at this distance. I have no plans to change that.
@@Jcc2224 I like to see the figure and not have most of the action happen off screen guess I will be skipping your channel in the future.
When jcc2224 makes a video about transformers 🤤🤤🤤🤤
i like the yellow
I really like the classics prime. But that figure goes for 40 to 80 dollers so I’m just going to get the siege prime.
There's a lot of repaints he had. I'm sure can get one for cheaper.
8:13 To be fair, in War for Cybertron TV show for Netflix, he has the same back piece.
It's almost like the animation model was based on the toy...
@@jeebus2313 I...don't know if this this is sarcasm or not.
Old vs new g1 bumblebee and Titans return bumblebee
it is from stitch
An then, i still have the classics, i have it since im 3 year old, that figure is good, but then when i was see the siege, ill change my mind, ill buy that thing.
Sorry for my english
Isn't Classics G3?
Nah, I don't think anything beyond G2 is really LABELED as a Generation.
I’d call it G1 Version 3.
Did you like the Bumbblebee movie? I liked it. Way better than the Michael Bay Transformer movies. I liked the first transformers movie out of the 5 Michael Bay ones.
I *loved it*
pepsi convoy feels cheated on
I prefer the Siege Optimus aaaalllllllllllllll ttthhhheeeeeee wwwaaaaaayyyyyyyy :0
I'm to say this before I before I watch the video I prefer classics optimus over siege because it doesn't tease a matrix and the classics mold looks better as nemesis prime anyway
Edit I'm not finishing this video because he's literally nitpicking the yellow paint details and complaining about the arm cibple that's better than classics megatrons giant cibple wings
My man Classics Prime is an awesome toy but I'm not gunna sit here and act like the excess yellow and arm kibble ISN'T a flaw. It's a review, I gotta cover everything.
Meg's giant wings are a thousand times worse.
Look I know the arm kibble is a bit of a flaw I was very angry at other things before watching this I don't see the problem with the yellow paint i don't think it's a problem if I can't think of a reason it shouldn't be there but it can't think of a reason it should be there too make of that what you will
Reason #1 the yellow shouldn't be there: Optimus Prime has never had that much yellow on him and it looks weird
Reason #2: See Reason 1
They put it there for the sake of making it different. In my opinion the repaints of him with less yellow look a thousand times better. The Age of Extinction version is my preferred.
@@Jcc2224 armada super optimus prime I can give another example if you want but seriously armada super optimus prime has like 10% more yellow I think
@@Jcc2224 I wonder if it's different because that was the intention.
is it just me or does classic prime have a feminine looking waist?
"How far we've come" is kind of an ironic statement here since, as I'm sure you're aware, there's a reason they kept going back to the well and reissuing the original Classics Optimus as late as 2015 (and actually wasn't there another one in the Platinum line after that?) and it's because the quality of the Generations figures didn't improve, it declined. Siege actually represents a "regression" to 2006 levels of build quality and I'm all for it.
When it comes to clever engineering, sculpt, and design, I think we've progressed, but you're right when it comes to build quality and durability finally going back to an older time - Leader Overlord feels more like a Cybertron figure and Leader Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus feels like a knockoff in comparison.
2006 Classics wins
Яя не чего не понимаю...
The prime on the left with yellow is a disaster
I think siege optimus is the beat chug optimus ever over er by far i hate that figure
the original g1 are the best (all after it are junk how its transformt .
That's quite the disrespect towards the amazing engineering and design that goes into many modern Transformers toys. Besides the die cast a lot of G1 toys weren't that well produced and were prone to breaking, I think Transformers toys are better designed as toys now than they used to be. Out of all my G1 toys I have one of the only ones I'm not afraid of breaking is my G1 Hot Rod.
Absolute shit opinion.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you failed
finally im early
I think 2006 classic has a good design more than 2018 siege,it's modern!!!
i pic new
Classics prime INFERIOR!👎
Siege prime SUPERIOR!👍🏻
The war for cybertron trilogy is classics 2.0. EVERY chacracter is getting remade to look G1!💯😁👍🏻
Siege is better. No contest.
2006 classic? Ha that looks like garbage
No.