Advice for rookie cyclists - you can have fun with cheap bike, just check tire pressure and basic stuff like lubed chain and breaks and you are ready, best bike, best tire - well it probably matters for pros but for you - hell they just want to sell you "things" that you do not neccesarily need right now.
Nothing transformed my gravel rides like when I switched from flimsy gravel tires to some 2.1 thunder burts and going down to 1.6bar. The comfort and grip add up in the long run and I have never been that fast for so long before
Going from 33psi (2.2bar) on my "gravel" tires to 20psi (1.4bar) on 2.2's turned my gravel bike into an entirely different fun playful machine rather than a fast straight line dragster
I've been riding the 700x47 Specialized Pathfinder Pro Gravel tire at 26psi and I would be happy to go even wider with a 700x56 (29x2.2) Pathfinder at 20-22psi.
Pathfinders are cool and all but imagine a 2.2 Gravelking SK!! at 15-20psi you would bounce down the trail rather than actually rolling down the trail 😅
WTB, leak sealant out of the sidewalls, tan are the worst, black is still bad - then they wear out as if they are made of chocolate - no wonder they have to pay to display - really not fit for purpose 👍😞
I had to have my wtb byways warrantied for leaking sidewall sealant, the replacements weren’t any better. Chuck them for the Specialized Pathfinders. Never a leak in the pathfinders-holds air for months unlike the byways- sorry wtb, just real world experiences.
Can’t help thinking you could have come up with a better title for the video. The title suggests a 19 minute tyre review but it is way more entertaining than that.
@@bikeradar Thanks, Jack. I enjoyed your comparison of the Vitus to the Crux. Am lucky enough to have the fancy go-faster Crux and think that any bike that shares some of its qualities must be a good thing. Real shame about Vitus 😕
The continuous middlestrip does not serve a better rolling resistance rather it leads to better durability and longer lifetime.
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There was maybe ONE take in the entire video where those tires were objectively useful and faster than fully treaded gravel tires. Guys, please, if you are doing basically a sales video for WTB at least try to do it credibly. Vast majority of the stuff you rode -- especially the stuff you did in race mode -- would have been far safer and faster to do on stuff like WTB Raddlers, Schwalbe G-One Overland or Bite, Teravail Rutland, Pirelli Gravel M etc... Not even talking about the parts where you ride in wet where these tires are borderline useless. Pathfinders and this tire are for princess gravel and asphalt stuff. There is nothing inherently "fast" in them, it's not a button you can press.
Hey there. I can say hand on heart that, for the conditions, these tyres were great. Yes, WTB sponsored us to make the video, but I can with absolute confidence that I would gladly pick these tyres, or a similar semi-slick, (I like the Vittoria Terreno Dry) again. As a general point, heavily-treated gravel tyres (like those you reference) aren't always necessary or desirable for gravel racing. A slick(er) tyre will always be faster rolling but, critically, in technical terrain, the limitations of a gravel bike's ability to shred are greater than a tyre's ability to provide grip or control. For example, many years ago, I rode Grinduro in atrociously wet and muddy conditions. I was hideously ill-prepared for this event and rode it on fully slick tyres 47mm wide tyres. They were by no means the right choice for the day, but they weren't awful either: ua-cam.com/video/Ze1OQ3rONuQ/v-deo.html If you're happy with a more heavily treaded tyre, then good for you - it's wonderful that there's ample choice on the market to cater for all riding styles and tastes. But, for me, a fat semi-slick is the type of tyre I like for go-fast gravel racing. Hope that clarifies things and happy to answer any other questions, Jack
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@@bikeradar I have two sets of wheels for my gravel -- Panaracer Gravelking SS+ (so even slicker than yours) and Teravail Rutland. The GKs are incredibly fast on tarmac and everything paved and smooth and simple DRY gravel. But the "drop off point" where they become slow uphill and dangerous downhill comes fast, especially when water enters the scene... and what I saw in your vid is firmly beyond that point. Then the Rutlands become kings, plus they do suprpisingly well on paved surfaces too. With treaded shoulders you obviously can get a bit more far than GK SS can but the slick center will kill you on climbs anyway on anything beyond the most heavenly gravel. On Unbound-style "straight flat all the way" races? Yeah, maybe that's the right tire. But that's not what I saw in this vid.
YMMV but, for me, a tyre like this (or the GravelKing SS+ - that's a great tyre) is the best option for the type of riding I like. I'm glad you've found a setup that works for you, though! 🏆👍
These vids are pretty much peak cycling vids for me
Thanks for watching, we're hoping for more episodes in 2025 🙌
Advice for rookie cyclists - you can have fun with cheap bike, just check tire pressure and basic stuff like lubed chain and breaks and you are ready, best bike, best tire - well it probably matters for pros but for you - hell they just want to sell you "things" that you do not neccesarily need right now.
Nothing transformed my gravel rides like when I switched from flimsy gravel tires to some 2.1 thunder burts and going down to 1.6bar. The comfort and grip add up in the long run and I have never been that fast for so long before
If the better tyres are that big, then it's an MTB course/route.
Also ride my rig with 2.1 inch tires. Schwalbe G One in 650b.
Going from 33psi (2.2bar) on my "gravel" tires to 20psi (1.4bar) on 2.2's turned my gravel bike into an entirely different fun playful machine rather than a fast straight line dragster
I run 29" Continental RaceKings, 2.2" front and 2.0" rear. They're terrific.
Thanks for the tyre review and sharing the event. I really enjoyed the video. Awesome!
Specialized Pathfinder: "WTB, I am your father!"
Jack out here "glowing like a boozed-up gnome" 😂
I've been riding the 700x47 Specialized Pathfinder Pro Gravel tire at 26psi and I would be happy to go even wider with a 700x56 (29x2.2) Pathfinder at 20-22psi.
Pathfinders are cool and all but imagine a 2.2 Gravelking SK!! at 15-20psi you would bounce down the trail rather than actually rolling down the trail 😅
Try running a Teravail Sparwood light and supple 2.2 in the rear with a Rutland light and supple 2.2 in the front you will be in absolute bliss
Look at all the people in the comments complaining about a new Gravel Diaries! Loved it.
Thanks for watching! 🌀
Excellent video all my favourite Bike radar people except for Tom , I will have to give those tyres a try down here in Australia
Thanks for watching! Always nice to hear comments like this 🫡
wow this is fun to watch ! where is this place and what race is it?
It's called Gritfest and is held in Wales gritfest.co.uk/
WTB, leak sealant out of the sidewalls, tan are the worst, black is still bad - then they wear out as if they are made of chocolate - no wonder they have to pay to display - really not fit for purpose 👍😞
I had to have my wtb byways warrantied for leaking sidewall sealant, the replacements weren’t any better. Chuck them for the Specialized Pathfinders. Never a leak in the pathfinders-holds air for months unlike the byways- sorry wtb, just real world experiences.
Not to mention the horrible rolling resistance
Can’t help thinking you could have come up with a better title for the video. The title suggests a 19 minute tyre review but it is way more entertaining than that.
The thumbnail is about some new gravel tyres, till minute 8 I have seen everything but anything about gravel tyres..
SRAM set ups all around? Another gravel trend worth exploring (I endorse your choices, btw 😊)
That's pure chance, I may add! I'm eyeing up a GRX groupset on another bike that I'd really like to fit to this bike. Best, Jack
@@bikeradar Thanks, Jack. I enjoyed your comparison of the Vitus to the Crux. Am lucky enough to have the fancy go-faster Crux and think that any bike that shares some of its qualities must be a good thing. Real shame about Vitus 😕
The continuous middlestrip does not serve a better rolling resistance rather it leads to better durability and longer lifetime.
There was maybe ONE take in the entire video where those tires were objectively useful and faster than fully treaded gravel tires. Guys, please, if you are doing basically a sales video for WTB at least try to do it credibly. Vast majority of the stuff you rode -- especially the stuff you did in race mode -- would have been far safer and faster to do on stuff like WTB Raddlers, Schwalbe G-One Overland or Bite, Teravail Rutland, Pirelli Gravel M etc... Not even talking about the parts where you ride in wet where these tires are borderline useless.
Pathfinders and this tire are for princess gravel and asphalt stuff. There is nothing inherently "fast" in them, it's not a button you can press.
Hey there. I can say hand on heart that, for the conditions, these tyres were great.
Yes, WTB sponsored us to make the video, but I can with absolute confidence that I would gladly pick these tyres, or a similar semi-slick, (I like the Vittoria Terreno Dry) again.
As a general point, heavily-treated gravel tyres (like those you reference) aren't always necessary or desirable for gravel racing. A slick(er) tyre will always be faster rolling but, critically, in technical terrain, the limitations of a gravel bike's ability to shred are greater than a tyre's ability to provide grip or control.
For example, many years ago, I rode Grinduro in atrociously wet and muddy conditions. I was hideously ill-prepared for this event and rode it on fully slick tyres 47mm wide tyres. They were by no means the right choice for the day, but they weren't awful either: ua-cam.com/video/Ze1OQ3rONuQ/v-deo.html
If you're happy with a more heavily treaded tyre, then good for you - it's wonderful that there's ample choice on the market to cater for all riding styles and tastes. But, for me, a fat semi-slick is the type of tyre I like for go-fast gravel racing.
Hope that clarifies things and happy to answer any other questions,
Jack
@@bikeradar I have two sets of wheels for my gravel -- Panaracer Gravelking SS+ (so even slicker than yours) and Teravail Rutland. The GKs are incredibly fast on tarmac and everything paved and smooth and simple DRY gravel. But the "drop off point" where they become slow uphill and dangerous downhill comes fast, especially when water enters the scene... and what I saw in your vid is firmly beyond that point. Then the Rutlands become kings, plus they do suprpisingly well on paved surfaces too.
With treaded shoulders you obviously can get a bit more far than GK SS can but the slick center will kill you on climbs anyway on anything beyond the most heavenly gravel. On Unbound-style "straight flat all the way" races? Yeah, maybe that's the right tire. But that's not what I saw in this vid.
YMMV but, for me, a tyre like this (or the GravelKing SS+ - that's a great tyre) is the best option for the type of riding I like. I'm glad you've found a setup that works for you, though! 🏆👍
Pathfinder Pro in 47mm for me
That vulpine S tyre is just a copy of the Teravail Washburn 🤷🏻♂️ 🫣
I’ve been rolling on Washburns for the last year. They’re really good!
Conti Race Kings would like to have a word with you.
Wanna know the info but ur B roll just keeps rolling and rolling.
👏 That's fair enough 🤣 Anyone else for a pun?
Pathfinder copy
Haery Fisher 🐟🐠