Salute to the SMA Sunny Boy Solar Inverter

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  • Опубліковано 21 кві 2024
  • Salute to the SMA 3000TL Sunny Boy Solar Inverter that is being replaced after a decade of fine service.
    Original installation video: • EEVblog #484 - Home So...
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  • @morantaylor
    @morantaylor 16 днів тому +88

    Did you mean 38 MWh?

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  16 днів тому +40

      Obviously brain not connected to mouth.

    • @Electronzap
      @Electronzap 15 днів тому +9

      @@EEVblog2 Always a major bummer when you think you made a perfect video until you are editing and hear that you mislabled something lol.

    • @lasersbee
      @lasersbee 15 днів тому +3

      Yeah.. saw the same thing at 0:30

    • @rabidpb
      @rabidpb 15 днів тому +2

      Does 38MWh of electricity cover the cost of the inverter?

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  15 днів тому +6

      ​@@Electronzapor upload direct without editing, release it, and then have people tell you...

  • @uzlonewolf
    @uzlonewolf 15 днів тому +31

    "No, we don't want you to do a tear-down!" said no viewer ever.

  • @TheBendixSA
    @TheBendixSA 15 днів тому +33

    Man 10 years flew past, I still remember watching the original video. The hell is the time goin?

  • @corenelius
    @corenelius 16 днів тому +38

    Teardown would be great 👍

  • @RobinKaja
    @RobinKaja 13 днів тому +1

    Nice to see it living long enough to be upgraded rather than replaced due to malfunction.
    Especially as I myself have two SMA 3000TL inverters at home, manufactured around one year later than yours.

  • @calholli
    @calholli 15 днів тому +10

    Kilo watts.. Mega watts.. Who's really counting when it's free :)

  • @ON8AD
    @ON8AD 15 днів тому +5

    You're probably going to miss the quality / reliability of an SMA. One of the few manufacturers where you can disable all cloud rubbish, and keep your data local 👍

  • @davedamngood1076
    @davedamngood1076 16 днів тому +21

    Don't turn it on, take it apart!

  • @QEngineering
    @QEngineering 15 днів тому +11

    Wow 10 years, just feels like you did the video on it last week.

    • @x0j
      @x0j 13 днів тому

      he did another video on it a couple years ago lol

  • @peterdkay
    @peterdkay 15 днів тому

    I have had a 1700W SMA Sunny Boy on my system since 2008 (16 years ago) and it has run without a fault since then. it has been on the west wall and display is now very hard to read but it has generated 26 megawatt-hours. it cost $10k back then but has saved me $17k so well worth it.

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek 14 днів тому

    RSVP Sunny Boy. A tear-down is less of a Viking funeral, more of a post-mortem. But I don't think it has to be, it could showcase the technology and innovation that went into its design, and how that made it such a reliable workhorse. A Sunny Boy Horse, if you will.

  • @johnnodge4327
    @johnnodge4327 15 днів тому +1

    I've got a 4kW version at my place of work. It's been giving perfectly reliable service since 2009, and is still going strong.
    Being in the UK, it's only produced 37,000 kWhr from the 3.8 kWP panels in that time.

  • @bf0189
    @bf0189 15 днів тому

    I remember when you put it up all these years ago! Wow so much has changed in the last ten years.
    I'd love to see a teardown!

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics 15 днів тому +4

    Of course, do the teardown! Always curious about how these things are built, and about possible failure modes after they've been in use for years.

  • @johnalexander2349
    @johnalexander2349 15 днів тому

    In South Africa we install solar out of necessity - personally generated about 5MWh in 10 months, starting with 4kWp of panels in June last year, up to 13kWp now, on my way to 18kWp. The panels pay for themselves, the inverters, and the giant batteries we're forced to install.

  • @maxzuidberg2322
    @maxzuidberg2322 15 днів тому +1

    Yes, teardown please! Would love to see how they evolved! I tore down an older Sunnyboy (the ones with the big heatsinks bolted to the top or the sides). They were just full with quality parts. Silicone cables, nice crimp connectors, wago terminals, expensive chips, … A lot to salvage.
    The one you got has heatsinking integrated into the case (metal injection molded?), so no salvageable heatsink there. Also, it‘s much smaller. As I said, curious to see what changed.

  • @Electronzap
    @Electronzap 15 днів тому

    Nice. Good to always plan for making upgrades when you are doing solar and energy storage.

  • @Mark.R_
    @Mark.R_ 15 днів тому +3

    I assume the whole house is getting rewired and your nightmare fuse board is going 😂

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  15 днів тому +3

      Upgrade very soon!

    • @Mark.R_
      @Mark.R_ 15 днів тому +2

      @@EEVblog2 Will the Electrician dare to have their work scrutinised by the armchair experts of the internet?

  • @markwullenschneider195
    @markwullenschneider195 22 години тому

    Best inv. Ever!

  • @mikejm79
    @mikejm79 16 днів тому +4

    Don't tear it down, tear it up

  • @redsquirrelftw
    @redsquirrelftw 15 днів тому

    Wow already 10 years? It feels like you just set this up not that long ago. Time goes by fast these days.

  • @toine512fr
    @toine512fr 15 днів тому

    Damn I remember the installation!

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 15 днів тому +1

    I salute you Sunny Boy! Isn't it great when something just gets on with doing its job quietly and efficiently without drama? I wouldn't destructively tear it down as having an inverter around can be pretty useful at times. I have an unmentionable unit that only saw a week of use before being replaced with something way better. I use that to test battery banks and as a charger every now and again. The replacement main inverter was installed under 4 years ago and just ticked over 25MWh.

  • @doseven
    @doseven 15 днів тому

    You mean to tell me you turned it on BEFORE you took it apart!!!!
    I think at least a non destructive teardown would be fun.
    I remember watching the video when you put your system up back when i was in grad school!

  • @MartinPHellwig
    @MartinPHellwig 15 днів тому +1

    I really like to know how they actual function, for example what MOSFETs/IGBT they use and how many and what the process is.

  • @bruce..
    @bruce.. 15 днів тому +1

    Would love to see a teardown, I have a 12 year old 4000TL, still powering away after producing over 75MWh

  • @wva5089
    @wva5089 15 днів тому

    Almost 12 years from mfg date
    instead of tear down.. I'd rather see overload type testing.. 750v holy buckets how!?
    also if you have a IR camera.. that'd be cool to see it in operation. (but don't die)
    I think you've convinced me.. buying old equipment sounds like a worthwhile gamble.

  • @voltare2amstereo
    @voltare2amstereo 15 днів тому +1

    Regulations prevent redeployment of 2nd hand solar gear for grid tie operation which is stopped cause there's a lot of good systems being replaced that could go to low income families but aren't allowed to

    • @tschuuuls486
      @tschuuuls486 15 днів тому

      Which countries would prevent you from doing that? If it doesn't meet current specs for critical stuff it's logical but otherwise sounds weird.

    • @voltare2amstereo
      @voltare2amstereo 15 днів тому +1

      @@tschuuuls486 Australia

  • @Maltanx
    @Maltanx 15 днів тому

    A detailed teardown would be very nice.
    Other than the efficiency due to better control and components, I guess that not much has changed over the years regarding inverter technology, so it would be very educational a teardown and explaination of how the various parts work.

  • @hardscorerockkssss
    @hardscorerockkssss 15 днів тому +2

    why not keep it as spare,why u brother removing it?keep it as back up

  • @badarjahangirkayani6196
    @badarjahangirkayani6196 15 днів тому

    Yes, teardown please. Thanks

  • @ChinashopRodeo
    @ChinashopRodeo 15 днів тому

    o7. Good Job, Little Box!

  • @markharwood
    @markharwood 15 днів тому

    My SMA 6000 also still going after 10 years - though the LCD display is severely faded.

  • @TeslaTales59
    @TeslaTales59 15 днів тому

    I vote for a tear down that you still can sell.

  • @RoderikvanReekum
    @RoderikvanReekum 15 днів тому

    It was good enough for Australia!

  • @MP-ou7lb
    @MP-ou7lb 15 днів тому +1

    3:20 I guess plugging microinterverters into the generator input will not work. Usually microinterverters will NOT RUN if they do not see the grid voltage. And as a generator input is an input and not an output, there is no grid voltage for the microinterverters to sync on.

    • @tschuuuls486
      @tschuuuls486 15 днів тому

      Those Deyes support Microinverter input from the Grid and can change a battery bank that way.

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  15 днів тому

      The Deye invereter specifically advertises this functionality.

  • @DumahBrazorf
    @DumahBrazorf 15 днів тому

    2x Fronius IGs running for 15years here...

  • @SamuQu
    @SamuQu 15 днів тому

    Maybe even a destructive testing? See how skookum it is built?

  • @ianemptymindtank
    @ianemptymindtank 15 днів тому

    Teardown would be good. I’ve a 5kw of similar vintage. It’s been a champ.

  • @OmarMekkawy
    @OmarMekkawy 15 днів тому

    Just making sure that we will have our new teardown video :D

  • @Bluetank1991
    @Bluetank1991 15 днів тому

    Do we get a teardown?😊

  • @jono80
    @jono80 15 днів тому

    Take it apart I say! I have the same inverter, the knock-on display is an odd but quite clever idea. Mine is missing the part on the bottom left with the one green and two red dots that sticks out (near where the DC cables enter). I have only been in the house for 6 months, it must have broken off at some point in the past. Not sure what that part is for?

  • @yoppindia
    @yoppindia 15 днів тому +1

    if ain't broken, don't fix it is not true anymore.

  • @kelvinstokes996
    @kelvinstokes996 15 днів тому

    People wonder why PV isn’t very common in Vancouver, BC Canada - our electricity is just so damn cheap that the economics don’t make much sense. At $0.10/kWh, this whole system would have only generated $3800 in return. Makes so, so much sense anywhere which uses coal/oil and pays a lot more for electricity, though!

  • @ncot_tech
    @ncot_tech 15 днів тому +2

    Put the spare panels on your driveway...

  • @Aristo12
    @Aristo12 15 днів тому

    Teardown, of course. :D

  • @beefchicken
    @beefchicken 14 днів тому

    What’s the PV in a circle sticker mean?

  • @BenMitro
    @BenMitro 15 днів тому

    Try and get it to convert with a non grid 240V AC source?

    • @BenMitro
      @BenMitro 15 днів тому

      Then tear it down :)

  • @JouMxyzptlk
    @JouMxyzptlk 15 днів тому

    Tear down tear down tear down! Why do you even ask :D.

  • @rw-xf4cb
    @rw-xf4cb 15 днів тому

    Didnt go with more enphase then?

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  15 днів тому

      Nope, too expensive for the Microinverters and especially the battery

    • @rw-xf4cb
      @rw-xf4cb 14 днів тому

      @@EEVblog2 you don't need the battery! I thought you were making millions off youtube? especially putting Enphase on the first time! I got some second hand for a bit of fun on the side they make it all plug and play and none of the scary 120+ VDC either. Pete HBPowerwall was making his own powerwall from used laptop 18650s and Andy's Off Grid Garage are two that I follow in the offgrid/grid world.

  • @arthurvin2937
    @arthurvin2937 15 днів тому

    Tear it apart!

  • @p_mouse8676
    @p_mouse8676 15 днів тому

    Don't they mount these inside an/or in a proper metal box?

    • @electron-1979
      @electron-1979 15 днів тому +1

      It's an outdoor unit.
      Definitely a more reliable unit than the Chinese unit

  • @ololh4xx
    @ololh4xx 15 днів тому +3

    yea the SMA stuff is actually really good ... german tech, btw ;-)
    Their apps are suboptimal - but the hardware ... is completely awesome

    • @electron-1979
      @electron-1979 15 днів тому +1

      Definitely better than the Chinese unit

  • @MeiklesAndDimes
    @MeiklesAndDimes 15 днів тому

    teardown please

  • @rahulkushwaha9500
    @rahulkushwaha9500 15 днів тому

    tear it down please

  • @SurvivalSquirrel
    @SurvivalSquirrel 15 днів тому

    I think giving this to someone else is much more worth than destroying it. There would be not much interesting stuff in it anyway

  • @sanjikaneki6226
    @sanjikaneki6226 15 днів тому

    tear down + reverse engineering + explanation
    PLS

  • @theNeWo1
    @theNeWo1 15 днів тому

    Wow, so if that cost a grand, it cost 3 cents per kwh produced.

  • @LawpickingLocksmith
    @LawpickingLocksmith 15 днів тому

    Yes TEARDOWN ! Do Jerry bend test, a display flame test and a dead short spark test. Maybe a Techrax drop down a staircase test?

  • @rodrigomaero
    @rodrigomaero 14 днів тому

    teardown but then reassemble and sell it! It would be a waste

  • @darknase
    @darknase 15 днів тому

    F
    o7

  • @seslan
    @seslan 15 днів тому

    🫡

  • @hardscorerockkssss
    @hardscorerockkssss 15 днів тому +2

    cable guys old cable is unknown quality to them.i say its just any excuse to lie and mlik some additional money out from job.
    i would personally not hire such idiots

    • @kevinmills5293
      @kevinmills5293 15 днів тому

      Agreed. Or are they saying they’re the only company that does a professional install?

    • @kevinmills5293
      @kevinmills5293 15 днів тому

      If you were having a new consumer unit fitted, these guys would insist on rewiring the whole house.

    • @Turbochargedtwelve
      @Turbochargedtwelve 15 днів тому

      There are certainly plenty of situations where that would be completely reasonable.

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  15 днів тому +1

      In this case the old cable isn't long enough, and a second one is needed anyway. So easier to run two new cables through the new longer conduit.

  • @hillppari
    @hillppari 15 днів тому +1

    single phase people scare me. using all that copper and amps when you could use 3phase like normal people. but i guess some countries are special.

    • @benjaminhanke79
      @benjaminhanke79 15 днів тому

      I agree but It's the country, not the people.
      Look how the US keep using a single phase connector on electric cars what makes them physically incompatible with the rest of the world. Dave has an Hyundai Ioniq, with a three phase connector, using only one in a single phase country, everything works fine there. I just can't get over it how that solution wasn't good enough for the US.

  • @DeathbyKillerBong
    @DeathbyKillerBong 16 днів тому +7

    post use teardown!