Fate Lore - The Tale of Ushiwakamaru, Kiichi Hougen, and Taira no Kagekiyo

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    In this series, I cover the lore of servants in the Fate series and Fate/Grand Order. This one is a triple feature, telling the tale of Ushiwakamaru, her mentor Kiichi Hougen, and the ghostly emanation known as Taira no Kagekiyo.
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  • @otakudaikun
    @otakudaikun  Рік тому +21

    Don't forget to check the description for links to all the artists featured in the video^^ Which version of Ushiwaka do you prefer? Her Rider form, or as Taira no Kagekiyo?

    • @michaeldaniels642
      @michaeldaniels642 Рік тому

      Rider

    • @kengox77
      @kengox77 Рік тому +1

      Definitely Rider

    • @ron2millionare972
      @ron2millionare972 Рік тому

      Her Assassin form.

    • @Archiiver
      @Archiiver Рік тому

      Yes

    • @ezrafaulk3076
      @ezrafaulk3076 Рік тому

      Other than preferring the ones that *don't* have the body stocking that's only meant as the horror that is *censorship* , I'm not sure *which* form of Ushiwakamaru I *prefer* per se; but I *do* like the underboob bikini armor design.
      It was also interesting to know that Ushiwakamaru and Minomoto-no-Yoshitsune are the same person, just under different names.
      PS: I know and understand why you aren't gonna join my Discord server, but would it be alright if I at least DMd you the *rules* for it? Reading them should make it clear *why* I left, and maybe you can apply that part of them to make *your* server more pleasant to be part of.

  • @daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121
    @daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121 Рік тому +22

    Babylonia is such as fucking masterpiece. They really gave us that dopamine explosion with their characterization of Ushiwakamaru. Even Benkei, who appeared barely in the anime was absolutely amazing! OMG, chills and tears after watching their deaths again!

  • @jkosch
    @jkosch Рік тому +21

    My favorite story about Yoshitsune's retainers (outside of Benkei) is how Satou Tadanobu impersonated Yoshitsune when Yoritomo had send troops to dispatch of Yoshitsune. It just makes me smile that someone else would don Yoshitsune's armor, defeat 20 pursuers, escape to Heian-kyo/Kyoto and there be found in hiding while in the middle of a game of go start to valiantly fight using the go-board as weapon before committing seppuku when the situation seems like there is no escape. I wonder if somewhere in the Fate material that tale gets referenced (similar to how the Lady-Murasaki Valentine event had Gawain mentioning the Gawain and the Green Knight tale).

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому

      Is that in the Heike?

    • @jkosch
      @jkosch Рік тому +2

      @@otakudaikun Kind of? This story is from the Genpei Jōsuiki, a 48 volumes long retelling of the Genpei War. What most consider the Heike Monogatari is the 1371 version called the Kakuichibon Heike
      Monogatari which supposedly was dictated by a performer who sang the lyrics (Kataribonkei ). The group of text about teh Genpei War are also known sometimes as variants of the Heike Monogatari. The Genpei Jōsuiki is a related text that was meant to be read, not performed and added more details. It is likely younger since the oldest surviving versions/mentions of it are from the 1550s. It added a lot more details and was also quite popular. I remember said episode about Satou Tadanobu so well because I remember that I was quite impressed with an early Edo period folding screen depicting that scene (and quite a few other scenes with Benkei and Nasu no Yoichi) I saw at a museum this December.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому

      @@jkosch It's amazing how little information there is on these works beyond just reading them yourself.

  • @shinju112
    @shinju112 Рік тому +13

    Remember to headpat your Ushiwakamaru after a battle, it increases morale to both parties.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Рік тому +37

    What is with all these women having the surname Gozen. It roughly translates to young lord/young lady

    • @Ryleona_
      @Ryleona_ Рік тому +15

      Probably for the same reason Knights are called Sir.

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 Рік тому +1

      They didn’t wanna give them real surnames

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 Рік тому +8

      Those are not surnames. They are titles. In this case titles given to prominent women. S9 whenever you see a historical Japanese name with Gozen at the end just know they have no surname.

    • @jkosch
      @jkosch Рік тому

      @@madambutterfly1997 In the Heian Period women of the upper class were generally reluctant to give their names. That is why we know the famous authors as Murasaki Shikibu ("Violet of the Ministry of Ceremonials" - with violet being probably both an allusion to her father rank in the color system of the court as well as her family being the Fujiwra clan she belonged to since the violet Wisteria plant is called fuji in Japanese) and Sei Shonagon (lesser councilor of state of the Sei (alternate reading kiyo as in Kiyohara, her family name). We only have hints about their true names (Fujiwara no Takako/Fujiwara no Kaoruko and Kiyohara no Nagiko) because women with their respective position in court at the relevant time with these names are mentioned in personal diaries.
      And in middle republican Rome women were even less well off with names, given that they only had their clans' name as a given name and used nicknames like "the elder" (maior) or "the third" (tertia) to differentiate between the many many women of the same name from the same clan. (e.g. women of the Caesar branch of the Iulii family might be known as "Iulia major", "Iulia minor" "Iulia Tertia", "Iulia postuma" etc..)

    • @ousamadearudesuwa
      @ousamadearudesuwa Рік тому +5

      Its a title. Like how we call knights "Sir", or "lord"

  • @fraincross8644
    @fraincross8644 Рік тому +4

    So that is why Kiichi Hogen's linea are the way they are.
    Thank you Dai Kun!

  • @primordial-chaos00
    @primordial-chaos00 Рік тому +3

    kiichi hogen and Scathach are the best mentors to learn under if you survive you would emerged a skilled warrior.

  • @ryudragon7
    @ryudragon7 Рік тому +2

    So happy I got Kiichi Hougen. Such a fun tengu to have on my team. I am constantly saddened that I couldn't afford to roll for Kagekiyo.

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому +1

    16:10 and mana transferring too

  • @skyfang757
    @skyfang757 Рік тому +5

    I did understand part of the story during the event, but thank you very much for the detailed summary!
    These lore videos are great!
    :DDD
    Btw, Kagekiyo for the win, even if Ushi is cuter ^^

  • @stevepitt-ash4628
    @stevepitt-ash4628 Рік тому +6

    Another great lore video dai. I enjoyed this banner so much as it where I got my Kagekiyo lol keep up the great work

  • @Dominick_twu
    @Dominick_twu Рік тому +2

    Hey, dude! I just discovered your channel a couple days ago. I love the content you put out. Thank you for your videos on Localization as well. I think that it is super important and the more people that know, the better. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    7:34 look Saber got another friend in this

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    2:24 the OG Japanese Sojaboy lol

  • @axelnetzahualcoyotl5223
    @axelnetzahualcoyotl5223 Рік тому +2

    Another great lore video as always.

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    21:36 hey at least I actually love Ushi

  • @ArcherEmiya1
    @ArcherEmiya1 Рік тому +1

    Wonderfully done Dai-san! I always love your videos

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Рік тому +4

    I know I said this last time but I really wish they put Taira no Masakado in-game and make him an Ushi-face.

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    1:51 as the OG Gurren Lagann

  • @hasseo195
    @hasseo195 Рік тому +2

    Aside of not understanding human`s feelings, did she not understand normal clothes.^^

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Рік тому +2

    The Ushi-Faces❤❤❤

  • @merrymerry2906
    @merrymerry2906 Рік тому

    Yessssss you posted another one, another year requesting you to put this on a Spotify podcast

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому +1

      I don't have much experience with how ordinary people like me can use spotify.

    • @merrymerry2906
      @merrymerry2906 Рік тому

      @@otakudaikun I believe the process involves making an RSS account and using that for podcasts then adding it via link to "Spotify for Podcasters" but don't worry, what you do here on UA-cam is more than enough

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    10:51 that some Shinji looks logic there oh shoot I just said that didn’t I

  • @TheJedaiHero9000
    @TheJedaiHero9000 Рік тому

    I Most Definitely like both versions of Ushiwakamaru, no Abso-fraking-lute question about it

  • @monsoul777
    @monsoul777 Рік тому

    this was a nice lore vid all the art was Nice to also Ushi is cute kiichi has a nice design to

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    12:53 Honestly she’s to good for him we master should give her love unlike her brother

  • @jkosch
    @jkosch Рік тому

    Last time I was so late, there was a different reason than the premiere of the newest Chaldea Gurus skit at the same time, but this time it was.
    Last time i was late getting trained by Tengu made people just as flashy in their fighting style.
    Last time I was so early most of the Genpei war stories were just as fanciful and supernatural as Type Moon's version.

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    5:08 Well at least it just humanity not *static*

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    20:07 sad they basically express there no Yoshitsune thanks to Taira

  • @joshmcclure5562
    @joshmcclure5562 Рік тому +2

    My Ushi is two grails away from Lv90 and I got Taira on single pot shot roll and I probably will grail kiichi to Lv90 eventually.

  • @AstronScion
    @AstronScion Рік тому +1

    3 in 1 must have taken quite some time

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому

      It's actually easier than trying to stretch their content out into three separate videos.

  • @pradiptaabhattacharjee3556
    @pradiptaabhattacharjee3556 Рік тому

    Hi my name is Pradiptaa Bhattacharjee, i am indian girl 🇮🇳, i like Ushiwakamaru

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    22:38 shame no Yoshitsune servant she could easily be a 5 star rider or saber

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    5:24 Nasu did the 17+ version huh

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 Рік тому

    22:21 honestly that spirit didn’t really need to think that Ushi never hated the genji so technically we’re soft on Ushi as a person(the meme is real guys)

  • @mineking1020
    @mineking1020 Рік тому

    Will there be also Lore Videos, about older servants, Like hajime Saito?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому

      Ideally yes. I originally set out to do all the servants, but that will only last so long as people stay interested and the views are good.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Рік тому

    Don’t you mean a drill that pierces the Heavens 😂

  • @mercenarygundam1487
    @mercenarygundam1487 Рік тому +2

    In a nutshell:
    Kiichi Hogen fucks everything up at Chaldea with her Fortune Mallet (I know who's going to be the first wave to be ORT's cannon fodder because her attitude. Her personality rubs me the wrong way. Not to mention, STILL held a grudge against Ushi years ago. Bitch, let it go already!)
    Ushiwakamaru becomes the cosmic punching bag of Fate Grand Order. (Seriously, corrupted by Tiamat, raised as an unfeeling killing machine, betrayed by her own brother, possessed by Kagekiyo.)
    And Kagekiyo gets pissed that she keeps dying to Genji mains in Overwatch.
    Side note: Yeah, Little Big Tengu is my least favourite event if you can't tell.

    • @yep1486
      @yep1486 Рік тому +1

      I like Teng event, but honestly Kiichi got on my nerve, ironically despite being my only SR assassin I haven't had any uses for her
      also true, she even claim she's gonna stick around to punish Ushi despite whatever punishment already having been dealt, I will mark the genji trait on her and send Taira no Kagekiyo on her ass

    • @mercenarygundam1487
      @mercenarygundam1487 Рік тому +1

      @YEP Like Kiichi is still mad about Ushi flirting with her daughter and abandoning her training. YET, when asked about her likes and dislikes, she says she likes nothing and hates nothing.
      THE ONLY REDEEMING FACTOR is this event ACTUALLY made me like Jason more. So congratulations, Jason. Your still an annoying ass but at least your not insufferable.
      Plus the whole body swapping thing, with Jeanne Alters, Medea, islander, Medusa and Waver's age being reverted sounds like something out of Deviantart.

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 Рік тому +1

      @@mercenarygundam1487 Actually, Ushi did not abandon her training, her training was complete. The “grudge” (and yes, in quotation marks because it ain’t even one) has to do with the fact she stole forbidden techniques from the gods that the Tengu guarded for centuries. Plus it is less of a grudge and more of a parent seeking to punish a kid for breaking a rule.

    • @mercenarygundam1487
      @mercenarygundam1487 Рік тому +1

      @@lenleon3699 And yet Kiichi using the mallet and causing unnecessary chaos in all of Chaldea makes her just as bad. Am I supposed to root for her?

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 Рік тому

      @@mercenarygundam1487 No, she is neither good nor evil. Plus you’d have to be clairvoyant to realize that an evil wraith has been tied to Ushi like glue ever since her death. Only reason we, the player, know is because we read Heian-Kyo first.

  • @extremeotakugamer
    @extremeotakugamer Рік тому

    Do you know if servants can do the fusion dance? 😂

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому +1

      They could try but it might not work lol

  • @extremeotakugamer
    @extremeotakugamer Рік тому +1

    Hey man how are you doing?
    Yesterday I finished the Waver Sherlock Holmes Velvet anime. It was very good but I was confused by the lack of information from important somethings like Gray past.
    The anime was weird but good.
    I watched your videos talking about the novel and I was very surprised that they decided to jumpo to volume 4. Why they did such a thing?

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому +1

      I honestly don't know. Maybe it's because it dealt with summoning a Heroic Spirit?

    • @extremeotakugamer
      @extremeotakugamer Рік тому

      @@otakudaikun Because the rest wouldn't be so "flashy" to the public in general?

    • @lenleon3699
      @lenleon3699 Рік тому +1

      @@extremeotakugamer it is also a weirdly paced novel. It takes it’s time and a lot of it is setup. Heck, a lot of what it sets up is explored in the sequel novels, El-Melloi Adventures, not in Case Files.

    • @extremeotakugamer
      @extremeotakugamer Рік тому

      @@lenleon3699 Oh yeah there is a sequel.
      Do you know how many volumes of the Case Files are translated in english?

    • @jkosch
      @jkosch Рік тому +1

      @@extremeotakugamer None official as far as I know, but all 9 of the 10 volumes (last I checked the second part of teh arc featured in the Manga [= book 5] was still only partially translated) have fan translations.

  • @muffingfx
    @muffingfx Рік тому

    sushiii

  • @mr.shadow8812
    @mr.shadow8812 Рік тому

    Anyone knows what song is used for the intro? I would really like to find it

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому

      My intro is an original composition. There is no more to it. That said, the current version was performed by a UA-camr called GaMetal who makes lots of similar stuff^^

    • @mr.shadow8812
      @mr.shadow8812 Рік тому

      @@otakudaikun Oh I see. Dam for an original composition it is really good, shame there is no more to it but still, this bit alone is amazing. Hopefully one day a full version of it comes, I would love a full version of this

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому

      @@mr.shadow8812 Yeah, but definitely check out GaMetal's stuff on UA-cam.

  • @Nasah-uy6ep
    @Nasah-uy6ep Рік тому

    Could the Holy Grail erase EMIYA from the Throne of Heroes? If so, wouldn't it be easier for him to win the war? Heralcels was killed by Gilgamesh, Cú Chulainn could have been killed by killing Kirei because I doubt Archer didn't know who Lancer's master was, despite the Battle Continuation abilitie, he would have disappeared with time. Although Artoria is the hardest to get rid of, because she is with his Master all the time, but if he got rid of Artori right after he killed Caster using, for example, the Gae-Bolg that he has in his UBW she is death. Gilgamesh himself was defeated by Shirou, so I guess with a good attack plan, Archer could surprise and kill him.

    • @darkstorm2579
      @darkstorm2579 Рік тому +1

      Shirou only managed to beat Gilgamesh because the latter wasn’t taking the fight seriously until the very end. By all accounts, a human cannot normally take on a Servant. Any who can are an exception to the rule (like Shirou, but the only thing he has going for him is Unlimited Blade Works, and it would only help him against Gil; he’d be crushed if he went up against any other Servant). Also, with Rin as Saber’s Master, it’s questionable if Archer Emiya would be able to win against her since Rin is a very talented mage, thus allowing Saber to fight at her full strength, unlike with Shirou or Kiritsugu. Sure in the Fate game route, Emiya was able to kill Heracles around 6-7 times, but that was thanks to Unlimited Blade Works. There’s no telling how it would help him against Artoria. Heck, against Lancer it’s practically useless thanks to his Protection from Arrows skill, which protects him from projectiles.

    • @Nasah-uy6ep
      @Nasah-uy6ep Рік тому

      @@darkstorm2579 I'm pretty sure I've described how he could get rid of Lancer and Artoria, as for Gilgamesh it doesn't really matter which one fights, Gilgamesh wouldn't pull Ea out until it's too late. More importantly, I still don't know if the grail can remove Archer from the Throne of Heroes.

    • @darkstorm2579
      @darkstorm2579 Рік тому

      @@Nasah-uy6ep Unless Emiya knows of a method to remove himself from the Throne, the Grail can't grant his wish because it's not omniscient. If he was trying to win the Grail War, he might try those tactics, but as to whether or not they would work is debatable. Not to mention that the things you described only happens in the UBW route.

    • @otakudaikun
      @otakudaikun  Рік тому +1

      I don't know. The only time I've seen a hero cancel their contract with the planet is Artoria after she no longer wants the grail.

    • @Nasah-uy6ep
      @Nasah-uy6ep Рік тому

      @@darkstorm2579I describe only UBW events because that when Archer is most active to destroy himself. But I admit, I forgot the condition that the user of the Gral must have an idea how to fulfill his wish without the Gral. Now that I think about it, there's a good chance Archer knew about the Grail corruption. Sorry for disturbing.

  • @Kazuma232
    @Kazuma232 Рік тому

    Yo