Bill Simmons’s WR Pyramid | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2024
- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Steve Ceruti to discuss Bill’s Wide Receiver Pyramid.
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Saying Puka did exactly what Cooper Kupp did is kinda disrespectful. Check Kupp’s numbers the year they won the Super Bowl in which he was the Super Bowl mvp!
Puka was better as a rookie than Kupp was as a rookie. So far,that's SOMETHING.
Didn't he win the triple Crown that year?
Fr kupp had one of the best WR seasons ever
Another year, another disrespectful offseason of Mike Evans out of the Top Reciever convo despite being HISTORICALLY good his entire career with more postseason success than everybody listed
I LOVE that Ceruti's here to discuss football
2/3 of the top 3 are guys that Denver passed on for Jeudy - AWESOME
even aiyuk, pittman, and higgins are all way better than jeudy
Mike Evan’s should be higher led the league in tds and is the only player to start his career with 10 straight 1000 yard seasons
Absolutely. And he did he did it with Winston and two quarterbacks nobody wanted while working for three different coaches and three different OC’s.
@@terry7907I agree but let’s not act like jameis isn’t a wr friendly qb. He might not be a winner but in terms of a WRs stats he’s an awesome qb. Plus Brady threw the ball 700+ times for the 3 years he was there.
Your last 10 seasons has nothing to do with your current level, so just leave that BS out of it.
@@terry79073 OCs and HC is not much for 10 years, if anything he’s lucky to have that few.
“It’s the injury thing with Tyreek”
Jefferson played 10/17 games, Tyreek played 16/17 games
This is the first time in Jefferson’s whole career where he got injured, and besides that he still averaged more yards than tyreek while playing with 4 different QB’s
Nobody is taking Ceedee Lamb over Chase 🤦🏾♂️
I know multiple people that would argue that vehemently
I would. CeeDee has a much less talented QB to work with.
Cedee is so underrated
At least CeeDee Lamb can stay healthy. 🤷🏻♂️
Chase gets hurt too much
How does DK not even get mentioned? 😂
He's not even #1 on his team, Tyler Lockett is.
Proof you're a casual.
Because of the dude throwing to him
@@CD-gk9ixyou don’t know Ball. Geno one of the best throwers of the ball. Waldron was a terrible OC
@@Sticktothemodels lol stop it
Geno is a nice story, but he threw for 3600 yards. 20 TDs, 9 picks. Took 31 sacks.
He’ll turn 34 this fall.
I don’t see him getting better.
Guys relax, Bill has a one year memory when it comes to every sport. Its not that serious.
The Davante disrespect is INSANE!
As a Lions fan I love to see Amon-Ra St. Brown get the respect he deserves!
Also as a lions fan! I don’t think he does nationally still but does by bill Simmons! Amon Ra st brown was still an injury replacement in the pro bowl! When he should have outright made it
Ceedee is not better than Chase.. and I'm a Cowboys fan. If the Bengals offers Chase for Ceedee.. Cowboys would do it in a new york minute
Stats last 2 seasons.
Lamb. 242 rec 3108 yrds 21 td
Chase 187 rec 2047 yrds 16 td.
I'm just a non biased Pats fan who would love to have either...but I'd take Lamb over Chase.
@@andrewsullivan3180well said
keenan allen is consistently a top WR. Last year he had like 1300 yards and 108 catches, he only played like 12 games.
How Jefferson ahead of tyreek because of injuries when he missed as many games last year as Tyreek has in his career lol
Jefferson younger, tyreek has had better qb/ recievers around him. Tyreek best ever at 1 thing Jefferson more complete.
Amon-Ra over AJ Brown is CRAZY! Wasnt Browns best year this year (despite the fact he was in the MVP conversation in the first half of the season) but NO GM would RISK THEIR JOB by taking Amon-Ra over AJ Brown
Puka is climbing this list this year. Watch. Almost every WR improves their second year. Catching up with pro game etc.
Keenan Allen should be in the tier with Mike Evans.
Garret Wilson with a healthy Aaron rodgers is gonna be top 5 forsure
When you consider the guys not mentioned, these rankings are pretty off the rails sloppy
Mike Evans is the only receiver in the NFL who you don't have to factor in who is his QB. The disrespect is insane.
The “only” WR…dude 😂
Waddle not being in there is a joke 😅
Came here from spotify just to ask...why the HELL do they have evans so low!?
I’m certainly not a big Stefon Diggs fan - but really? There were a few receivers you guys listed ahead of him that are suspect.
I’m glad DJ Moore got some acknowledgment he’s one of the most underrated WRs in the league. He’s coming off a career yr and is about to have an influx of talent added on offense in a new offensive scheme. Arrow is pointed up
Where is Amari Cooper Lmao. Dude put up a career season with 5 starting QBs
Receiver: The offensive position where having rings arguably means the least for a Hall of Fame case. And cornerback is probably that way for defense.
Your own dominance can be to your team’s detriment if your team can’t take advantage of it. The other team could scheme around you.
Nnamdi Asomugha with the Raiders from 2006-2010 is a CLASSIC example. After that apex '06 season, teams basically refused to throw in his direction. Didn't need to. Just abused Stanford Routt or Chris Johnson or whoever.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot2Similarly, a look at receivers will show that Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Steve Smith, and Julio Jones (who should all make Canton) each never won a ring.
Amon ra so overrated
@@jordansmith7954Why in your opinion?
Whenever people argue who the best WR is, it’s important to note that it’s Jefferson that always gets compared
“tyreek better than JJ” “devante > JJETTAS” “chase is the best LSU WR”
just saying 😂
DK, Keenan Allen, Mike Evans. like what are we talking about here 😂
I feel like Devonte smith is criminally underrated. Only people watching the eagles games see his hands and route running
Could not agree with you more! I feel like if he had a better quarterback and was more of a focal point at his position, he would put up all pro level numbers.
Ciruti let’s go! He’s paid his dues!!
I love how Bill obsesses over receivers and this list probably changes drastically every year
The lack of respect for DK Metcalf...
Mclaurin and pickens are both top 10 talents
Bill Recency Bias Simmons
Ceedee put up 1,749 12 TD’s in basically 13 games. Let that sink in.
Jefferson is the best WR in the NFL.
So many things wrong with this list.
1. You can make a case for JJ over Tyreek but not the injury argument. Tyreek hardly ever misses time.
2. Chase is definitely over Lamb.
3. Comparing Nabers to Tyreek is incredibly lazy. They have separate body types, Nabers is substantially bigger and Nabers is very good but he’s nowhere near the speedster Tyreek is.
King Jettas
The Cooper disrespect is wild I'm pretty sure he just won the triple Crown.
Terry Mclaurin had the worst qb’s and still ball each year
Tyreek Hill is the most dangerous receiver since Randy Moss and maybe Calvin Johnson. This guy has dang near single-handedly made Tua Tagovailoa into a pro bowl quarterback.
Based on the guy who's watched maybe 10 non-elite non-patriot games last year if that.
The Amari Cooper and Mike Evans disrespect is unreal
My thoughts exactly smh
This list struggled to discuss WR tools. Some of these guys should get an edge bc they can do everything. Speed size route etc. Adams, AJ have size St Brown doesn't, etc and it makes them more capable than others.
a slot receiver over Chase, AJ Brown and St Brown?!
"Or if he turns out to be just Mike Evans..."
So a historical consistent WR that is good enough to be the #1 receiver on a superbowl winner, can perform even with terrible QB play, is mostly healthy for a long career and is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer?
Can we stop the Mike Evans disrespect please?
Steve you put any WR on the panthers and they will struggle lmao!!!
6 players before AJ BROWN?!
I admit I thought Cee Dee proved his star status this year but I still don’t trust him, he lacks a certain grit and toughness, although his skills are A+. Adunze is going to be a repeat all pro but doubt Penix at your peril. I see Warren Moon 2.1, which will be golden in today’s NFL.
Justin Jefferson played 10 games last year and Tyrek played in 16 I’m confused by your logic here. No one moves the defensive more than Hill
Garret Wilson 😆
Feel bad for Terry in Washington smh
No way Diggs is the 3rd best wr on his team. Bill made this whole list to make Diggs the #3 WR on HOU and it's obvious
Who the F thinks Tank Dell and Nico Collins are top 20 WRs in this league?? Am I missing something?
Brown , Smith and dk over lamb
Ah the reptile's back
Still waiting on Justin Jefferson contract extension news to break! 💰
So Tyreke was hurt & came back during games and jettas actually missed games lol gotta pick another reason
JETTA BAYBEE.
I guess Bill is done with drafts, now he’s onto pyramids
Keenan Allen
Lamb over chase???? What are we doing here😂
How is aiyuk that low
So the argument is JJ over tyreek because of injury, when JJ missed half the year
I’d rather have Addison over Diggs next year.
1800 yards? Tyreek Hill
I guess Scary Terry is going to end up like Mike Evans lol way too much disrespect.
Also Chase is absolutely better than Lamb. I think Lamb was legitimately great this year, but he was only an average #1 WR at best until then; meanwhile, Chase has been dominant since day one.
People love to overrate Tee Higgins. He could be a Number One guy on a team with no viable wide receivers like Carolina, the Giants, or the Patriots, but he’s not a Number One in most teams in the NFL. 🤷🏻♂️
Lamb and St Brown aren’t better than AJ Brown, it’s atleast an argument for Lamb but St Brown, no chance he’s better than AJ.
List is terrible. No mention of McLaurin, Metcalf, Pittman Jr, Olave, Amari Cooper, Waddle, etc. but can’t forget about Nico Collins!
AJ Brown is better than CeeDee. Eagles also just have Devonta too.
Worst pyramid ive seen you make bill
The Sun God is number 4 easy
Tyreek Hill is #1 and then Jefferson #2 then everybody else
Cedee lamb is not the same level as tyreek hill stop it lol 😆
Kupp is low .... the disrespect
Justin Jefferson is not on a different level then Tyreek hill
The George Pickens disrespect is crazy
Dude had the worst qb in the history of football and still got almost 1200 yrds. He gonna ball out next year. 1500
@@tj-23 TJ watt is that you??? I think we found the burner
George Pickens
St Brown above AJ Brown
I’d take Amon Ra, Chase, and AJ Brown over Ceedee Lamb
Who cares about the NFL in April? Respectfully...
What else should he talk about? Regular season baseball? Golf?
@@nickbarcheck1019 stick with what he is best at....NBA. Love the NFL too but just seems like weird timing.
Draft month!
Live your vids bill! But this pyramid is on par with your lebron takes for the worst takes I’ve ever heard.
This is the worst thing I’ve ever watched
Bill again showing he doesn’t know shit about football
Ceedee Lamb??? this is by far the worst content of the year by this channel😂. Say Bill roll me up whatever u was smoking on this Pod, Jesus Christ. Still love the channel tho❤, but this was really really bad
Simmons is talking nonsense, tyreek hill is the best receiver in the field then for me its jefferson.These guys think tyreek just runs lol hes actually a great routrunner and got very good hands.tyreek is only 30 or 31 sorry.
He was on pace for 2000 yards receiving until he got nicked at end of season. Smh. Yeah I think Simmons is showing 1 more he hurt My Patriots Bias.
How dare he rank him as a close number 2 instead of 1!!!!! 😂
Everyone in the league knows Jamar chase is the best wr in the game
Where the fuck is mclaurin? Give him a solid qb and he is getting you 1500 yards