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  • The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Steve Ceruti to discuss Bill’s Wide Receiver Pyramid.
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  • @dominichahn169
    @dominichahn169 3 місяці тому +32

    Saying Puka did exactly what Cooper Kupp did is kinda disrespectful. Check Kupp’s numbers the year they won the Super Bowl in which he was the Super Bowl mvp!

    • @IamJdTrent
      @IamJdTrent 3 місяці тому

      Puka was better as a rookie than Kupp was as a rookie. So far,that's SOMETHING.

    • @jacktheleper4468
      @jacktheleper4468 3 місяці тому +1

      Didn't he win the triple Crown that year?

    • @Bobbleheads56
      @Bobbleheads56 3 місяці тому +1

      Fr kupp had one of the best WR seasons ever

  • @thesocratescamden
    @thesocratescamden 3 місяці тому +20

    Another year, another disrespectful offseason of Mike Evans out of the Top Reciever convo despite being HISTORICALLY good his entire career with more postseason success than everybody listed

  • @LARRY113Z
    @LARRY113Z 3 місяці тому +16

    I LOVE that Ceruti's here to discuss football

  • @johnwilson8385
    @johnwilson8385 3 місяці тому +19

    2/3 of the top 3 are guys that Denver passed on for Jeudy - AWESOME

  • @Mat3ykaaa
    @Mat3ykaaa 3 місяці тому +25

    Mike Evan’s should be higher led the league in tds and is the only player to start his career with 10 straight 1000 yard seasons

    • @terry7907
      @terry7907 3 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely. And he did he did it with Winston and two quarterbacks nobody wanted while working for three different coaches and three different OC’s.

    • @thebronzejade1223
      @thebronzejade1223 3 місяці тому +1

      @@terry7907I agree but let’s not act like jameis isn’t a wr friendly qb. He might not be a winner but in terms of a WRs stats he’s an awesome qb. Plus Brady threw the ball 700+ times for the 3 years he was there.

    • @michaelturley3457
      @michaelturley3457 3 місяці тому

      Your last 10 seasons has nothing to do with your current level, so just leave that BS out of it.

    • @michaelturley3457
      @michaelturley3457 3 місяці тому

      @@terry79073 OCs and HC is not much for 10 years, if anything he’s lucky to have that few.

  • @adamdodds6293
    @adamdodds6293 3 місяці тому +23

    “It’s the injury thing with Tyreek”
    Jefferson played 10/17 games, Tyreek played 16/17 games

    • @merlehexum3932
      @merlehexum3932 3 місяці тому +1

      This is the first time in Jefferson’s whole career where he got injured, and besides that he still averaged more yards than tyreek while playing with 4 different QB’s

  • @MaxJulien2701
    @MaxJulien2701 3 місяці тому +98

    Nobody is taking Ceedee Lamb over Chase 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @jasonmorgan2263
      @jasonmorgan2263 3 місяці тому +20

      I know multiple people that would argue that vehemently

    • @nickbarcheck1019
      @nickbarcheck1019 3 місяці тому +12

      I would. CeeDee has a much less talented QB to work with.

    • @ckq
      @ckq 3 місяці тому +8

      Cedee is so underrated

    • @johnbrowntheprophet
      @johnbrowntheprophet 3 місяці тому +2

      At least CeeDee Lamb can stay healthy. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @sethdickfield8430
      @sethdickfield8430 3 місяці тому +4

      Chase gets hurt too much

  • @user-mz1en1tn5k
    @user-mz1en1tn5k 3 місяці тому +23

    How does DK not even get mentioned? 😂

    • @BigginsInAmerica
      @BigginsInAmerica 3 місяці тому +4

      He's not even #1 on his team, Tyler Lockett is.

    • @user-mz1en1tn5k
      @user-mz1en1tn5k 3 місяці тому +10

      Proof you're a casual.

    • @CD-gk9ix
      @CD-gk9ix 3 місяці тому +2

      Because of the dude throwing to him

    • @Sticktothemodels
      @Sticktothemodels 3 місяці тому +3

      @@CD-gk9ixyou don’t know Ball. Geno one of the best throwers of the ball. Waldron was a terrible OC

    • @CD-gk9ix
      @CD-gk9ix 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Sticktothemodels lol stop it
      Geno is a nice story, but he threw for 3600 yards. 20 TDs, 9 picks. Took 31 sacks.
      He’ll turn 34 this fall.
      I don’t see him getting better.

  • @yaroslav64
    @yaroslav64 3 місяці тому +4

    Guys relax, Bill has a one year memory when it comes to every sport. Its not that serious.

  • @DaBaltimoron
    @DaBaltimoron 3 місяці тому +6

    The Davante disrespect is INSANE!

  • @davidburke2453
    @davidburke2453 3 місяці тому +5

    As a Lions fan I love to see Amon-Ra St. Brown get the respect he deserves!

    • @noah.conley
      @noah.conley 3 місяці тому +2

      Also as a lions fan! I don’t think he does nationally still but does by bill Simmons! Amon Ra st brown was still an injury replacement in the pro bowl! When he should have outright made it

  • @AppleiPhone17
    @AppleiPhone17 3 місяці тому +12

    Ceedee is not better than Chase.. and I'm a Cowboys fan. If the Bengals offers Chase for Ceedee.. Cowboys would do it in a new york minute

    • @andrewsullivan3180
      @andrewsullivan3180 3 місяці тому +4

      Stats last 2 seasons.
      Lamb. 242 rec 3108 yrds 21 td
      Chase 187 rec 2047 yrds 16 td.
      I'm just a non biased Pats fan who would love to have either...but I'd take Lamb over Chase.

    • @andrewgundy3045
      @andrewgundy3045 3 місяці тому +1

      @@andrewsullivan3180well said

  • @Elguapodelfuego
    @Elguapodelfuego 3 місяці тому +1

    keenan allen is consistently a top WR. Last year he had like 1300 yards and 108 catches, he only played like 12 games.

  • @ethans8719
    @ethans8719 3 місяці тому +12

    How Jefferson ahead of tyreek because of injuries when he missed as many games last year as Tyreek has in his career lol

    • @bryandaluga9077
      @bryandaluga9077 2 місяці тому

      Jefferson younger, tyreek has had better qb/ recievers around him. Tyreek best ever at 1 thing Jefferson more complete.

  • @micahmartens7770
    @micahmartens7770 3 місяці тому +1

    Amon-Ra over AJ Brown is CRAZY! Wasnt Browns best year this year (despite the fact he was in the MVP conversation in the first half of the season) but NO GM would RISK THEIR JOB by taking Amon-Ra over AJ Brown

  • @willzsportscards
    @willzsportscards 3 місяці тому +2

    Puka is climbing this list this year. Watch. Almost every WR improves their second year. Catching up with pro game etc.

  • @jacobellis9419
    @jacobellis9419 3 місяці тому +2

    Keenan Allen should be in the tier with Mike Evans.

  • @alexjoy9693
    @alexjoy9693 3 місяці тому +3

    Garret Wilson with a healthy Aaron rodgers is gonna be top 5 forsure

  • @divineflow3333
    @divineflow3333 3 місяці тому +3

    When you consider the guys not mentioned, these rankings are pretty off the rails sloppy

  • @jeffersontugboat8115
    @jeffersontugboat8115 3 місяці тому +3

    Mike Evans is the only receiver in the NFL who you don't have to factor in who is his QB. The disrespect is insane.

  • @jasontaylor9944
    @jasontaylor9944 3 місяці тому +3

    Waddle not being in there is a joke 😅

  • @dylanbechtell3756
    @dylanbechtell3756 3 місяці тому +2

    Came here from spotify just to ask...why the HELL do they have evans so low!?

  • @kavo588
    @kavo588 3 місяці тому +3

    I’m certainly not a big Stefon Diggs fan - but really? There were a few receivers you guys listed ahead of him that are suspect.

  • @wemajor7260
    @wemajor7260 3 місяці тому

    I’m glad DJ Moore got some acknowledgment he’s one of the most underrated WRs in the league. He’s coming off a career yr and is about to have an influx of talent added on offense in a new offensive scheme. Arrow is pointed up

  • @brycetaylor1187
    @brycetaylor1187 3 місяці тому +1

    Where is Amari Cooper Lmao. Dude put up a career season with 5 starting QBs

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 3 місяці тому +2

    Receiver: The offensive position where having rings arguably means the least for a Hall of Fame case. And cornerback is probably that way for defense.
    Your own dominance can be to your team’s detriment if your team can’t take advantage of it. The other team could scheme around you.

    • @manuginobilisbaldspot2
      @manuginobilisbaldspot2 3 місяці тому +3

      Nnamdi Asomugha with the Raiders from 2006-2010 is a CLASSIC example. After that apex '06 season, teams basically refused to throw in his direction. Didn't need to. Just abused Stanford Routt or Chris Johnson or whoever.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 3 місяці тому +1

      @@manuginobilisbaldspot2Similarly, a look at receivers will show that Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Steve Smith, and Julio Jones (who should all make Canton) each never won a ring.

    • @jordansmith7954
      @jordansmith7954 3 місяці тому

      Amon ra so overrated

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 3 місяці тому

      @@jordansmith7954Why in your opinion?

  • @noahwelch2931
    @noahwelch2931 3 місяці тому +1

    Whenever people argue who the best WR is, it’s important to note that it’s Jefferson that always gets compared
    “tyreek better than JJ” “devante > JJETTAS” “chase is the best LSU WR”
    just saying 😂

  • @kaboom4real933
    @kaboom4real933 3 місяці тому

    DK, Keenan Allen, Mike Evans. like what are we talking about here 😂

  • @Sircharlesnate111
    @Sircharlesnate111 3 місяці тому +1

    I feel like Devonte smith is criminally underrated. Only people watching the eagles games see his hands and route running

    • @Riles3152
      @Riles3152 3 місяці тому

      Could not agree with you more! I feel like if he had a better quarterback and was more of a focal point at his position, he would put up all pro level numbers.

  • @SportsCultureFragrance
    @SportsCultureFragrance 3 місяці тому

    Ciruti let’s go! He’s paid his dues!!

  • @clarktudor2706
    @clarktudor2706 3 місяці тому

    I love how Bill obsesses over receivers and this list probably changes drastically every year

  • @reaves9
    @reaves9 3 місяці тому +7

    The lack of respect for DK Metcalf...

  • @pipohemm8726
    @pipohemm8726 3 місяці тому +2

    Mclaurin and pickens are both top 10 talents

  • @scapegoat413
    @scapegoat413 3 місяці тому +10

    Bill Recency Bias Simmons

  • @Joeshiesty286
    @Joeshiesty286 3 місяці тому

    Ceedee put up 1,749 12 TD’s in basically 13 games. Let that sink in.

  • @themagicman225
    @themagicman225 3 місяці тому +2

    Jefferson is the best WR in the NFL.

  • @josh0766
    @josh0766 3 місяці тому +1

    So many things wrong with this list.
    1. You can make a case for JJ over Tyreek but not the injury argument. Tyreek hardly ever misses time.
    2. Chase is definitely over Lamb.
    3. Comparing Nabers to Tyreek is incredibly lazy. They have separate body types, Nabers is substantially bigger and Nabers is very good but he’s nowhere near the speedster Tyreek is.

  • @cadepierson8892
    @cadepierson8892 3 місяці тому +1

    King Jettas

  • @jacktheleper4468
    @jacktheleper4468 3 місяці тому

    The Cooper disrespect is wild I'm pretty sure he just won the triple Crown.

  • @NicolasWathelet
    @NicolasWathelet 3 місяці тому +2

    Terry Mclaurin had the worst qb’s and still ball each year

  • @Riles3152
    @Riles3152 3 місяці тому

    Tyreek Hill is the most dangerous receiver since Randy Moss and maybe Calvin Johnson. This guy has dang near single-handedly made Tua Tagovailoa into a pro bowl quarterback.

  • @nicholas7525
    @nicholas7525 3 місяці тому +5

    Based on the guy who's watched maybe 10 non-elite non-patriot games last year if that.

  • @loganerb3952
    @loganerb3952 3 місяці тому +4

    The Amari Cooper and Mike Evans disrespect is unreal

    • @casajuez
      @casajuez 3 місяці тому +1

      My thoughts exactly smh

  • @jacobellis9419
    @jacobellis9419 3 місяці тому

    This list struggled to discuss WR tools. Some of these guys should get an edge bc they can do everything. Speed size route etc. Adams, AJ have size St Brown doesn't, etc and it makes them more capable than others.

  • @worldwide2676
    @worldwide2676 3 місяці тому

    a slot receiver over Chase, AJ Brown and St Brown?!

  • @12gark
    @12gark 3 місяці тому

    "Or if he turns out to be just Mike Evans..."
    So a historical consistent WR that is good enough to be the #1 receiver on a superbowl winner, can perform even with terrible QB play, is mostly healthy for a long career and is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer?
    Can we stop the Mike Evans disrespect please?

  • @noah.conley
    @noah.conley 3 місяці тому

    Steve you put any WR on the panthers and they will struggle lmao!!!

  • @Thrill2799
    @Thrill2799 3 місяці тому

    6 players before AJ BROWN?!

  • @haroldfloyd5518
    @haroldfloyd5518 3 місяці тому

    I admit I thought Cee Dee proved his star status this year but I still don’t trust him, he lacks a certain grit and toughness, although his skills are A+. Adunze is going to be a repeat all pro but doubt Penix at your peril. I see Warren Moon 2.1, which will be golden in today’s NFL.

  • @stubbywankenobi1
    @stubbywankenobi1 2 місяці тому

    Justin Jefferson played 10 games last year and Tyrek played in 16 I’m confused by your logic here. No one moves the defensive more than Hill

  • @EaglesGang215
    @EaglesGang215 3 місяці тому +2

    Garret Wilson 😆

  • @wapoj4220
    @wapoj4220 3 місяці тому +2

    Feel bad for Terry in Washington smh

  • @jacobellis9419
    @jacobellis9419 3 місяці тому

    No way Diggs is the 3rd best wr on his team. Bill made this whole list to make Diggs the #3 WR on HOU and it's obvious

  • @jacobellis9419
    @jacobellis9419 3 місяці тому +1

    Who the F thinks Tank Dell and Nico Collins are top 20 WRs in this league?? Am I missing something?

  • @brianpayton5396
    @brianpayton5396 3 місяці тому +1

    Brown , Smith and dk over lamb

  • @teddylovesit
    @teddylovesit 3 місяці тому

    Ah the reptile's back

  • @nicoalexander774
    @nicoalexander774 3 місяці тому

    Still waiting on Justin Jefferson contract extension news to break! 💰

  • @dso_nyce
    @dso_nyce 3 місяці тому

    So Tyreke was hurt & came back during games and jettas actually missed games lol gotta pick another reason

  • @matthew1182
    @matthew1182 3 місяці тому

    JETTA BAYBEE.

  • @pmodi1104
    @pmodi1104 3 місяці тому

    I guess Bill is done with drafts, now he’s onto pyramids

  • @kyle_2315
    @kyle_2315 3 місяці тому

    Keenan Allen

  • @johnwilson3587
    @johnwilson3587 3 місяці тому

    Lamb over chase???? What are we doing here😂

  • @user-sj8yw2hs8u
    @user-sj8yw2hs8u 3 місяці тому

    How is aiyuk that low

  • @randywilson1578
    @randywilson1578 3 місяці тому

    So the argument is JJ over tyreek because of injury, when JJ missed half the year

  • @jessehudson1318
    @jessehudson1318 3 місяці тому

    I’d rather have Addison over Diggs next year.

  • @Zero_Da_Hero
    @Zero_Da_Hero 3 місяці тому

    1800 yards? Tyreek Hill

  • @jrrp-li8jw
    @jrrp-li8jw 3 місяці тому

    I guess Scary Terry is going to end up like Mike Evans lol way too much disrespect.
    Also Chase is absolutely better than Lamb. I think Lamb was legitimately great this year, but he was only an average #1 WR at best until then; meanwhile, Chase has been dominant since day one.

  • @johnbrowntheprophet
    @johnbrowntheprophet 3 місяці тому

    People love to overrate Tee Higgins. He could be a Number One guy on a team with no viable wide receivers like Carolina, the Giants, or the Patriots, but he’s not a Number One in most teams in the NFL. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @ChampagneRi
    @ChampagneRi 3 місяці тому

    Lamb and St Brown aren’t better than AJ Brown, it’s atleast an argument for Lamb but St Brown, no chance he’s better than AJ.

  • @denismoric6044
    @denismoric6044 3 місяці тому

    List is terrible. No mention of McLaurin, Metcalf, Pittman Jr, Olave, Amari Cooper, Waddle, etc. but can’t forget about Nico Collins!

  • @Viktomize
    @Viktomize 3 місяці тому

    AJ Brown is better than CeeDee. Eagles also just have Devonta too.

  • @cryptkeeper7656
    @cryptkeeper7656 3 місяці тому +5

    Worst pyramid ive seen you make bill

  • @mrduckett4006
    @mrduckett4006 3 місяці тому

    The Sun God is number 4 easy

  • @dsantifit
    @dsantifit 3 місяці тому

    Tyreek Hill is #1 and then Jefferson #2 then everybody else

  • @abdeenabdul7803
    @abdeenabdul7803 3 місяці тому

    Cedee lamb is not the same level as tyreek hill stop it lol 😆

  • @f58534
    @f58534 3 місяці тому

    Kupp is low .... the disrespect

  • @tysonmays6866
    @tysonmays6866 3 місяці тому

    Justin Jefferson is not on a different level then Tyreek hill

  • @Tylerfrost824
    @Tylerfrost824 3 місяці тому +1

    The George Pickens disrespect is crazy

    • @tj-23
      @tj-23 3 місяці тому +2

      Dude had the worst qb in the history of football and still got almost 1200 yrds. He gonna ball out next year. 1500

    • @Tylerfrost824
      @Tylerfrost824 3 місяці тому

      @@tj-23 TJ watt is that you??? I think we found the burner

  • @jakeworm4178
    @jakeworm4178 3 місяці тому

    George Pickens

  • @DISUNOMICS
    @DISUNOMICS 3 місяці тому

    St Brown above AJ Brown

  • @adamcurtis7972
    @adamcurtis7972 3 місяці тому

    I’d take Amon Ra, Chase, and AJ Brown over Ceedee Lamb

  • @jstdun
    @jstdun 3 місяці тому +1

    Who cares about the NFL in April? Respectfully...

    • @nickbarcheck1019
      @nickbarcheck1019 3 місяці тому

      What else should he talk about? Regular season baseball? Golf?

    • @jstdun
      @jstdun 3 місяці тому

      @@nickbarcheck1019 stick with what he is best at....NBA. Love the NFL too but just seems like weird timing.

    • @davidburke2453
      @davidburke2453 3 місяці тому

      Draft month!

  • @937jmoney3
    @937jmoney3 3 місяці тому

    Live your vids bill! But this pyramid is on par with your lebron takes for the worst takes I’ve ever heard.

  • @lawsonblazic9180
    @lawsonblazic9180 3 місяці тому +1

    This is the worst thing I’ve ever watched

  • @DoozieEXE
    @DoozieEXE 3 місяці тому

    Bill again showing he doesn’t know shit about football

  • @nineteenvegas
    @nineteenvegas 3 місяці тому

    Ceedee Lamb??? this is by far the worst content of the year by this channel😂. Say Bill roll me up whatever u was smoking on this Pod, Jesus Christ. Still love the channel tho❤, but this was really really bad

  • @abdeenabdul7803
    @abdeenabdul7803 3 місяці тому +1

    Simmons is talking nonsense, tyreek hill is the best receiver in the field then for me its jefferson.These guys think tyreek just runs lol hes actually a great routrunner and got very good hands.tyreek is only 30 or 31 sorry.

    • @bryanttisdale2446
      @bryanttisdale2446 3 місяці тому

      He was on pace for 2000 yards receiving until he got nicked at end of season. Smh. Yeah I think Simmons is showing 1 more he hurt My Patriots Bias.

    • @Bobbleheads56
      @Bobbleheads56 3 місяці тому

      How dare he rank him as a close number 2 instead of 1!!!!! 😂

  • @kanecunningham7779
    @kanecunningham7779 3 місяці тому

    Everyone in the league knows Jamar chase is the best wr in the game

  • @pipohemm8726
    @pipohemm8726 3 місяці тому

    Where the fuck is mclaurin? Give him a solid qb and he is getting you 1500 yards