Are You Using the Right Studio One VST for Drums? | Impact VS Sample One
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
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⏰ Timestamps:
0:00 | Intro
0:15 | Gift For You
0:45 | Impact Vs Sample One Overview
1:15 | Impact DEMO & Best Uses
2:56 | Impact Drawbacks
6:45 | Sample One DEMO & Best Uses
9:32 | Sample One Drawbacks
10:00 | My Drum Workflow
📝 ABOUT THIS VIDEO
Drum programming is a crucial part of music production, but it's not always the most straightforward and can vary from software to software.
In Studio One, for example, we have Sample One XT and Impact XT, two powerful virtual instruments designed for programming MIDI, but which is the right one for you?
Both Impact and Sample One are great options for drum programming, but they have different strengths and weaknesses, and which you decide to pick will ultimately depend on your workflow and the type of music you make. To help you decide which is best for your productions, I cover the pros and cons of both alongside some best-use scenarios in this week's video.
In this video, you will learn:
-The differences between Impact and Sample One
-Best-use scenarios for both virtual instruments
-Some pro-level hacks for each to speed up your workflow
#StudioOne #DrumProgramming #MusicProduction
Impact: 1 Can't repitch: Yes, you can, in semitones and or cents. 2. Extra steps: not really, you can create presets. Also, you'll probably don't want a separate channel per pad, but a separate channel per pad type: 1 for kicks, 1 for snares and so forth. 3. What would be the use case? The idea of the Impact, just like the one of NI Battery 4 and most drum plugins, is 1 track. If you want multiple tracks, simply don't use it. 4. You can't layer sounds in ImpactXT. False. Drag & drop multiple sounds on the same pad, then change Layer Mode to Stack. The real limitation is that you can't align them beyond choosing their start/end point, so padding samples in front would have to be done before drag & dropping in Impact XT.
That's how I work 1 channel per pad type. Kicks, snares, hats etc., percussion. Usually no more than 4 to 5 channels.
you read my mind .. started watching this channel because I saw some useful stuff on a different video but this along others are just inaccurate in information ..
Impact is super powerful .. way more than people might know
How can I program my 808 in Impact?
Good video. A few things you mentioned specific to Sample One that are also available in Impact - scrolling through samples in the same folder using the arrow buttons; and also layering multiple samples on the same pad. In terms of arrangement using the pattern editor - you can create/copy existing pattern variations from the sequencer and then in the arrangement view, select the variations you want using the little drop down icon. One last thing - choke groups, not sure you can do that in Sample One if you're into drum programming.
I have no idea why I never attempted to drag multiple samples into one pad before Lol. Thanks Wayne!
These are all good reasons for me to continue using EZDrummer 3 and Superior Drummer 3 instead of Impact, or Sample One which I do use from time to time. And in my opinion, all editing can be done much more easily in Toontrack's drumming programs than it is in Studio One's programs. And they are much easier to bring into Studio One too, and have each channel quickly assigned to a drum sound.
I'm with you.
I've been trying to decide whether it's worth the money to buy EZD3 for users using S1 Hybrid or 6. I'll take another look at EZD3.
What's your choice for drum programming in Studio One, Sample One, or Impact?
UPDATE: You can actually scroll through samples and stack them in Impact, just like in Sample One. As long as you have your samples in the same folder, Impact also has arrows near the sample window for you to go back and forth between them. For stacking, simply highlight both samples in the browser and drag them into one pad. Lastly, change the layer mode on Impact to 'Stack". Thanks to our community member @waynevdk1 for pointing this out!
Sample One, Impact some times.
I'm using Impact with the Sphere Soundsets. Pretty easy to come up with patterns in a variety of tones. Works great with the Atom. From there, mangle to taste.
I actually use impact more than sample one. I did few pitch shifting with Automation. Also, I use impact with preset almost all the time.
But I want to try a little bit more sample one to work more on my sampling production. Nice video as always.
I use impact for drums and sample one for bass or if i want to change the note of the snare or to do hi hat rolls. Now ill use sample one for more after watching this. I just downloaded the toolbar!
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thank You Ivan. Always good instructive and usefull explanations.
You CAN use impact to edit the pitch bend in the automation lane. So not really a limitation.
Hey Ivan, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and creating such easy to understand videos. I recently started learning how to produce music and chose Studio One as my DAW, your videos are helping me a lot. Please continue posting such great content.
I’m happy that I’m able to help! Thank you for tuning in!
Thanks for the lesson. Your videos are always a source of useful information.
My pleasure!
great content and work flow vibes. btw so enjoying the free tool bar 💯💯💯💯
Appreciate it and glad to hear it! 🙏🏽
Of course it's not free, you have to pay a subscription.
awesome!!
I personally use a bunch of sample ones instead of one impact easier to mix also fun fact if you hold shift while dragging in a sample you can chop it in sampleone
Same! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! Glad I found you
Thank you so much and welcome!
Thank you!!!
You can also put all those Sample Ones into a Folder and then drag it over to the Browser to save the whole setup as a track preset for use whenever you want it. Impact XT does have round robin on the pads.
Nice video, maybe it's an idea to make a video on how to use instrument one-shots properly in sample one to create chords especially.
Hello! good video, for convenience and habit I use the sample more, although to create drums more easily so as not to lose the idea I use the impact, to create loops and things like that... something I want to add is that in the impact it is possible correct the pitch, only it is a bit more cumbersome, if you work in pattern, in the bottom left in the options you can add the pitch control to modify it =)
Hey, love the vid and just subscribed. Going to check the rest of your courses. For the free Productivity Bar I was wondering after I download it how do I make it work in Studio One?
Welcome to the community! The email that you got the toolbar from as well as the folder download itself, has a link to some instructional videos that you can bookmark. Let me know if you need any help!
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Thanx a lot ✌️. Now i know why the kick volume rules also the snare, the hi hat etc ... Each sample must be assigned to a channel 👍
Is there a video on how to setup that productivity toolbar???
For Windows devices, if you hold ALT while clicking to make the event it will make it a pattern.
Ivan when I use the macro toolbar and do add snares and claps or any of them all it does it add 1/16 notes across the patter
I came from FL Studio, I find myself using Sample One more often over Impact XT. I don't do finger drumming.
Nice video explaining the difference.
Your productivity toolbar is a game changer 🔥🔥👌🏾 Personus should just have that as a default toolbar.
Do you that fl studio sounds better than S1, especially for drums and 808s?
is the Atom Sq any good?...does it do the job....thanks for the video.....i currently onlyhave the akai mini 3 and volca drum...just trying to gain better productivity to studio one 6 artist I have
at 3:20 then one can make a macro to setup multiple instances of impact if they like. 2-12-23
I wish I could just use maschine in studio one the way maschine works standalone, so I could have multiple groups of 16 pads and then I have the ease of maschine with the efficacy of S1 for mixing and arranging.
I hope they update impact and sampleonext and do something like logic did with qsampler and drummashine designer.
Is it possible to use the maschine drum pad in studio one?
bro..how to create mono channel in sample xt..i want to use my own sampler like kick,snare etc.
How can I get my own acoustic snare sounds in my library?
Always turn on the "Follow Song Tempo" button. This button, when turned on, stops the samples from playing different keys at different speeds.
Its fine to leave it off for drums bro, cause if its on it timestretches and degrades the sample . If you are using it for melodic one shots then yes it could be better to timestrech them so that the notes are consistent.
@@maledrops agreed 👍🏿
How do I load your free macro production tool in my studio one
A few years ago I moved from Cubase to S1. I miss Groove Agent. It was a much more mature beast than Impact XT. What Groove Agent comparable plugin would you suggest for S1?
Ivan, I'm new to all of this is there a way to do all this with no equipment? All I have is Studio One 6.
Absolutely. Studio One comes with Impact, Sample One and a ton of loops and drum samples so you’re set there. If you wanted to program by manually finger drumming you can load up you’re preferred drum VST and press the Caps key on your typing keyboard. That will bring up the virtual MIDI keyboard and you’ll be able to trigger your drum samples with that!
i prefer using sample one for the flexibility that it provides, and as it's a stock vst, studio one handles it great and dont use any CPU. i'm amazed when i check my performance monitor, all my sample one instances uses zero CPU when playing.
what's that telegram answer i got under my comment before ?
Cool video. But in Impact, since you can use individual channels, couldn't you just stick a pitch shifter on the channels that you want to pitch? You could even automate it, right?
Sure, but that’s still a lot more work than just moving a MIDI note in the piano roll.
@@ImIvanCalderon Thanks for response! Now, I do want to say that maybe it's not really more work. There's 1 or 2 clicks the piano roll way. But in S1, it's 2 clicks to pick a range, and you can drag the cursor up between the points to pick your pitch shift amount. And that doesn't seem harder to me (but I haven't done this yet). Also, I use impact for drums, so I would only be making small, subtle moves. So that's different than the Sample One example with only one sample being manipulated, to be fair.
My drawback on both IMPACT XT and SAMPLE ONE is not having crossfade.
That's true bro , they need to add Fade in/out asap
@@maledrops I found a sampler that does everything and the sound engine is nice with loads of options, even Downsampling and is not heavy on the CPU. The name is TAL Sampler. I finally left sample one after requesting the crossfade for many years.
I also got TAL Drum to replace Impact XT. Presonus needs to work on there sampler's, it sounds too clean.
@@mixprofmix Never heared of those tbh but will def give it a try! I love Studio One but cannot understand how its missing such a basic feature...
Hi does Impact XT come bundled into Studio One Pro or is it a separate purchase. Thanks.
Impact XT comes with all versions of Studio One!
@@ImIvanCalderon Thanks! actually what I should have asked is whether it’s the complete version that comes free / with Studio Professional… or is there a “paid for” version with more features. That’s how Cubase does it, I think.
ToolBar Of course it's not free, you have to pay a subscription.
Can’t you just explode to tracks to convert a midi sequence into tracked midi? I do all this in maschine and then just master in S1. Bought S1 to simplify tracking vocals over my beats.
S1 really needs to implement better Maschine interplay.
Metronome sound??
I've been using Studio One since 2013 and still don't know how to use Impact or Sample One. Or Mojito, whatever the hell that is.
I prefer sample one for changing sound pitch in piano roll
Agree 100%!
Lol you can do that In Impact XT also
Sure but it’s not as efficient as with Sample One. With Sample One it’s built into the VSTs design. With Impact you have to take extra steps and ain’t nobody got time for that lol
@@allinonethegreat lol with sample one it's more simple 😌
Ivan a love ur videos, but i alredy told u in one of tour videos that u answered and u say the samething again that isnt right.
U CAN pitch hihats and stuff really easy with impact, u just need to change the pitch and automate them( with pattern si Even easier).. i get that isnt like "fl studio" but that isnt the only easy way ...
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Every time I says that I’m referring to pitching your hi hats in the piano roll, which is what most of us want. I don’t want to automate what would normally be a simple task lol
@@ImIvanCalderon hey man !!.. i Guess if everyone things the fl way is right way i understand what u mean.. but in ur video u Say "u can't pitch ur hats" in general, u didnt Say specific with the piano roll.. is just an observation cause every pad has his independent pitch.. in pattern mode if just like use the probability or respeat funtion for example. I find it harder to view My Kits sepárate that "automate" the pitch.. i Guess i'm not an fl guy 😅lol
I prefer Sample One
Same! I love Impact but for my workflow Sample One gives me way more control.
@@ImIvanCalderon Me too.
Logic x have drummer studio one very far from logic