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  • @Alan-vk6bk
    @Alan-vk6bk 23 дні тому +19

    I cried the first time I heard alone because it strikes a chord with me being in my mid 50s. This album is a tear jerker. It hits hard in so many places. Only great music can do this and for me only one band can and that's The Cure. This album is definitely on par with Disintegration no question. No other band can come back from 16 years away and deliver such a gut wrenching album. Long may continue ❤️

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +4

      @@Alan-vk6bk it’s honestly the greatest comeback of any band, and 16 years was well worth the wait 🖤

  • @DanKoerner
    @DanKoerner 23 дні тому +18

    I'm turning 50 next year and I think I experienced the exact same thing you did when listening to this album. It's definitely their most emotional and raw album in my opinion. The closest thing I could compare it to would be like if Disintegration and Pornography had a baby, and then that baby grew up and got old and looked back on its life.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +2

      That’s an incredibly accurate description of this record. I definitely hear both in this record, but I feel the weight of Robert’s words more here than ever before. This is heavy.

  • @Kerr_Avon
    @Kerr_Avon 19 днів тому +4

    I'm 50 now and somehow my 19 year old son likes The Cure too. After listening to this album I cautioned my son that he might not like this album. I described it to him as an album written by an ageing man dealing with loss and regret. But fortunately he loves this one as much as I do. I had to listen to And Nothing Is Forever about 10 times before I could listen to it without tearing up. Thanks for this video, I'm glad it showed up in my feed.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  19 днів тому +2

      @@Kerr_Avon that’s the song that made me cry too !! And that’s beautiful; I really like how this record reaches out to all generations.

  • @strangerthanfiction4014
    @strangerthanfiction4014 19 днів тому +4

    Endsong got Me totally unprepared. The way it builds and somehow instead of being boring gets more captivating, then the vocals and the outro... By then I Was in tears. Great Art, reflects on life and shows us that there is hope outside the mainstream. Its a special and very specific Album.
    Its a Cure.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  19 днів тому +1

      @@strangerthanfiction4014 beautifully said my friend. Couldn’t agree more about Endsong; it’s something special. “It’s all gone. It’s all gone. It’s all gone.” A devastating truth.

  • @nicdhunter7652
    @nicdhunter7652 17 днів тому +3

    This album definitely hits a nerve with people. The cure have been really all I’ve ever listened to for most of my life. 51 now and it’s hard to listen to the very real themes on this album without getting emotional. I love it though..

  • @bitburn
    @bitburn 25 днів тому +8

    Spot on brother. I'm 54 suffering with heavy ms and enjoy your vision of The Cure which myself been a fan since the late 80s. Love this record. Yes, aging is a tricky bugger.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  25 днів тому +4

      @@bitburn it’s a beautiful tragedy; both the record and life itself

  • @JackGildernAB
    @JackGildernAB 23 дні тому +9

    I remember, sometime in the 2000s, there was an article cover with Robert Smith, talking about how their "Bloodflowers" album was a good way to end. I was very young, but I loved the band with all my heart.
    I think Robert Smith was correct. The album talks about loss... lost time, lost memories, lost hopes, and frustration about the loss of your creative voice. I've always loved Bloodflowers, because it seemed like so many fans of The Cure were not fans of "Bloodflowers" at all. I was too young to appreciate it in-full at the time, but with age and introspection, I've come to understand it perhaps a bit more than any other album by The Cure.
    Songs of a Lost World feels like a return to that voice, but more despairing and appreciative of the things we're losing, while also finding hope in love. It won't be many people's "best record" for The Cure... but it is a singularly strong album in their discography, and fulfills the same high-concept, deep messaging that I loved in Bloodflowers.
    Robert Smith still hitting the same notes, evoking the same emotions... and Jason Cooper is working those drums to punctuate every thought. An excellent album, all around. I'm sad I never got a chance to see them when they were on tour this year.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +2

      @@JackGildernAB same !! So mad I missed them. Hopefully they come back around; I desperately want to see these new songs live. Also, I totally agree - this is a return to Bloodflowers with even more darkness and depth. Glad someone else heard the similarities !

    • @amycasey3973
      @amycasey3973 23 дні тому +2

      @@MourningCoffeeMusic Bloodflowers was so FUCKING good and so is this one totally agree :)

  • @BlackHun-wf7hb
    @BlackHun-wf7hb 23 дні тому +4

    It's a great record. Faith, Wish and Songs are my favorite, and I think the best, Cure records.

  • @RinnRuannan
    @RinnRuannan 21 день тому +2

    Being a listener of The Cure since purchasing Seventeen Seconds the year of its release, I am glad, relieved, and a bit surprised that a band whose music I've loved and followed since I was a kid is still moving me decades later.
    I'm also glad I saw your video. Thank you for this.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  21 день тому +1

      @@RinnRuannan ah I love Seventeen Seconds ! Thank you for sharing your story, and for being here 🙏🏼🖤

  • @marybethwylie3253
    @marybethwylie3253 9 днів тому +1

    This album is deeply beautiful and apocalyptic. It certainly has made me cry many times and the timing of its release couldn’t have been more perfect with the world in trouble as it is, with humanity struggling as it is, with the earth being in a struggle for its own life just to breathe. In its grief and sadness it lifts me up. For me it is the only music I can listen to right now. Thank you Robert Smith and The Cure. ❤

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  9 днів тому +1

      @@marybethwylie3253 I couldn’t agree more. Everything you just said is why I too can’t listen to anything else at the moment.

    • @marybethwylie3253
      @marybethwylie3253 8 днів тому

      @@MourningCoffeeMusic
      Thank you, I love that you posted your views on this album. Blessings to you!

  • @nathanielnicholson559
    @nathanielnicholson559 22 дні тому +2

    I'm fortunate to be a Cure fan since '86. I was 11. My brother would play a mix at his store that I later found out was side A of the Standing on a Beach collection. I still have my original that I bought shortly after. Imagine my joy in discovering all the singles on side B!
    Anyway, It's obvious you have a good grasp on this record. I think it's exactly what it should be. It makes me feel like all my favorite Cure albums did and still do, right back to Faith and 17 Seconds with twists and turns that they've never taken before. It's sincere to the core, without doubt. It fits seamlessly for me, timelessly.

  • @danbaver
    @danbaver 19 днів тому +1

    First of all, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts about this record so sincerely. I'm 49 and have been a Cure fan since I was 16 (right around the time Wish came out), so all of those themes about being older and reflecting hit me really hard pretty much right away. I've been trying to articulate to a few people why this one was hitting me so hard now, this deep into middle age when we all thought Bloodflowers was going to be their swan song (which was just about half my lifetime ago... wild). I think I will just send this video along because you've honestly done such a good job as far as I'm concerned. Your words really have brought me to tears (the good kind :) ). And I'm so glad to see in the comments that a lot of other Gen Xers feel the same way. Remember that feeling you'd get when you met someone new and found out they loved The Cure as much as you did? I'm glad we're still out there, and SO happy that they have become one of those bands with a multi-generational fan base. Thank you again. Long may all of us dreamers endure.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  19 днів тому

      @@danbaver thank you so much for heartfelt words 🙏🏼🖤 and here’s to us multigenerational dreamers 🍻

  • @justinrisen1929
    @justinrisen1929 17 днів тому +1

    Absolute masterpiece imho. Is it better than Disintegration or Wish even? No i do not think so however in Disintegrations case we are talking about not only The Cures greatest work but one of the greatest records ever made so its not suprising. With that said this has taken over the 3rd spot for me and replaced Pornography. Been a Cure fan for 30 years and they have been a huge part of my life and keeping me from ending it on more than one ocassion, they are truly a gift to my life and even i couldnt imagine after 16 years theyd come back with something this poignant and heart wrecking yet cathartic and beautiful. Best record since Bloodflowers (its sister record imo) and for me the 3rd best theyve ever produced. Cheers love the vid and the introspective completely agree.

  • @TheCookingRat
    @TheCookingRat 23 дні тому +6

    Hey man I’m 21, i loved the new album and its amazing even the songs on it are too damn cool.. I’ve resonated a lot with Robert smith’s lyrics in this album.. i feel weighted from my past and regrets for not being enough. and for the girl I could have a life with, that never came to be. I’ve made the mistake of being too scared around her. Whilst both having deep family issues often seeing her at church. never to expect that, that would come to an end of it.. until her move due to parent’s separation. We crossed paths not long this time to find her with an another man.. nothing wrong with that. But reminded me of the lyrics sung in the new album “ feel regret for all I never was, leaving me hurt,sad and lost.” But all that said I just move on and see the past as a growth opportunities to wait for the next chapter..

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +1

      @@TheCookingRat it sounds like you have a lot in common with this record my friend, and I agree that the tragedies of our past ultimately are opportunities to learn and grow. I feel that theme of acceptance and growing from loss all over this record - thank you for sharing your story 🙏🏼🖤

  • @mr_mr
    @mr_mr 23 дні тому +5

    This was beautiful. Thank you. It sent me into a journaling frenzy

  • @A1Fanatiker
    @A1Fanatiker 22 дні тому +2

    Thanks for posting this perspective piece up. I'm 59, feeling my age. And consider myself a lifelong Cure fan since the beginning of the 80s, but have not taken a dive into this album yet..i will now.
    I enjoyed hearing your thoughts about the themes here of loss of dreams, loss of people and other things alot. This reminds me very much of many of your same emotionss I experienced similarly when recently listening to Bruce Springsteen's album Western Stars. It is a matured Bruce looking back on life and mistakes and regrets and dealing w loss like what you are experiencing w Robert's artistic output on Lost World.
    I walked awayvfrom Western Stars thinking"This is Impressive..Bruce really has something to say on this album in a way he never had before until older age perspective."
    Your perspectives here make me look forward to a deep dive into this album and seeing where my opinions mirror or differ from commentors here.
    I do think I"m something of a Cure fan weirdo in that I think very highly of both Wish and Wild Mood Swings. I feel like Disintigration was for its time in the band's life, Wish was for its time and reflected where they were like 17 Seconds did, and Wild mood Swings was for its time in mid 90s with sort of a swing & Jazz fusion thing going on when labels were cramming as many songs as they posssibly could onto a cd under the misguided theory more is better. You could toss anywhere from 3-5 songs from Wild Mood and the flavor of the album wouldnt suffer a bit imo. I realize these are fighting words w some. But thats ok.

  • @stopbunsen
    @stopbunsen 23 дні тому +2

    Yeah it's an honest account of grief, this record. It reminds me a lot of the work Nick Cave has been doing since the passing of his sons. But, it's a broad thing grief. It's not just about the death of loved ones. It is, like you say, grieving the death of a dream, or our youth. It runs deep in us. As sad as this record is, I feel uplifted by it in a certain way too, and I feel a sense of unity with all of us who are being moved by this record right now. We will remember this time. BTW Endsong is just killing me. It's so brutally sad, but also very beautiful. That song, in particular, has to be in my top 5 Cure songs. It's phenomenal.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +1

      I agree, Endsong is BRUTAL. And the Nick Cave comparison is spot on !

  • @titobeme
    @titobeme 22 дні тому +2

    Aging comes with loss of people you love and only Robert and the Cure can put that experience effectively into words and music.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  22 дні тому +1

      @@titobeme and they did such a great job capturing that on this record. Definitely my favorite record of 2024, to say the least.

    • @titobeme
      @titobeme 22 дні тому

      @ YES! My only brother was diagnosed earlier this year with cancer. It’s in remission but I Can Never Say Goodbye” has been front and center in my mind. “Alone”, when I first heard it, hit like a sledgehammer to my heart because it really speaks to me. Great post btw, I just subscribed!

  • @anonanon526
    @anonanon526 22 дні тому +1

    Hey all, I agree with most of the comments here. I turn 50 next year as well ('OG' Cure fans would be looking at 60 give-or-take). I think the early cure was more abstract and Smith wrote about dark topics and what he thought things were like - take songs such as 'Sinking' which surely, he thought he could relate to then BUT actually he may be able to relate to the topic of ageing even more so now. NOW Robert Smith has actually lived the darkness, the deaths & loss etc. This album obviously has a few songs/lines based on the reality of lived suffering - even WarSong (Think current state of the world). Previous songs you could listen to multiple times and maybe get different meanings as you listen to them over time. The new album is a bit more direct in its meanings in my view.

  • @scottaustin7237
    @scottaustin7237 23 дні тому +3

    Good review with many good points. I LOVE Drone:Nodrone. That is a killer bass line by Simon Gallup.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +1

      @@scottaustin7237 I know right?! That song in particular felt like ‘Burn’ with elements of Nine Inch Nails. An instant favorite for me.

    • @giulioricci1119
      @giulioricci1119 23 дні тому +1

      It's the Cure's classic Hendrix-style rock song. It's very reminiscent of Never Enough with industrial elements and a Korn style bass.

    • @JustinQuinn623
      @JustinQuinn623 22 дні тому +1

      ​@@giulioricci1119yes. Also "screw" from the head on the door

    • @MsRedbelly
      @MsRedbelly 21 день тому +1

      @@giulioricci1119Never Enough is one of my favourites. Also love the film clip, so trippy

  • @Craftic
    @Craftic 23 дні тому +1

    This is a beautiful album perhaps my favorite ❤

  • @steve1751
    @steve1751 23 дні тому +1

    Time will tell but wow this is a great album. It may very well go down as their best but Disintegration will likely always be the pinnacle. It is an incredible album though and is so powerful.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  22 дні тому

      @@steve1751 agreed, only time will time. Glad you’re enjoying this record as much as I am !

  • @Pumpkinvvitch666
    @Pumpkinvvitch666 23 дні тому +2

    It’s soo difficult for me to choose my favorite Cure record, I listen to them all equally but, this new record hits so hard for me… I haven’t been able to listen because I just start crying.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +1

      Me too, especially once the 2nd track hits.. “I know, I know, my world’s grown old. And nothing really matters.”

  • @nobbynoris
    @nobbynoris 5 днів тому +1

    That fear that the best days are behind you can so often be a cancerous illusion. I was feeling that exact thing when I was twelve - that young - and struggling to fit in at secondary school.
    Don't allow yourself to be fooled. The so-called 'good old days' were always a myth anyway. And you are what you choose to become.

  • @ajasen
    @ajasen 22 дні тому +1

    Lyrically he's been writing the same type of songs forever. His life has finally actually caught up with his feelings... this one is undeniably authentic, not just at the level of feelings ++ which were always authentic ++ but now with a lot of accumulated aging and loss.
    I deeply appreciate the turn towards these painful truths. cuz I wouldn't go there without something like beautiful art or skillful teachers to lead me there.

    • @ChristopherCreek-dr4ts
      @ChristopherCreek-dr4ts 20 днів тому

      Your comments are profound and so on point. Hits a nerve. But spot on. Sending love🖤🖤xx

  • @dEFT07Itd
    @dEFT07Itd 22 дні тому +1

    There does not always have to be a "thé best", it is again different from all the rest, and very much The Cure, like all the rest. They worked on it 100x more than any album, and what they did in the past had a few layers or depths, here it is layered with layers. It depends on what aspect you want to rate the album. Overall? Give it some time yeah, I already know it is great. They wouldn't be where they are without Bloodflowers and all the rest:. One would expect them to improve.

  • @Cureboy1
    @Cureboy1 24 дні тому +3

    Possibly top 5

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  24 дні тому

      @@Cureboy1 it’s definitely up there for sure. 16 years was certainly worth the wait for me !

  • @pettyworld6401
    @pettyworld6401 22 дні тому +2

    The best record this year 2024

  • @fdevlin5932
    @fdevlin5932 14 днів тому +1

    Excellent review

  • @Sleepdriver1984
    @Sleepdriver1984 23 дні тому +2

    After "Bloodflowers", this one might be

  • @theoriginalrabbithole
    @theoriginalrabbithole 22 дні тому +1

    Rookies...🙄 Disintegration is THE best album by The Cure. I'm NOT saying anything else is bad BUT...that album completely encapsulates the essence of The Cure's atmosphere and sonic textures. If A Forest from 17 Seconds was also on that album, it would be The Cure's equivalent of Supertamp's Breakfast in America, as an album that essentially also doubles as the band's greatest hits album.

  • @greenalishi222
    @greenalishi222 22 дні тому +1

    Beautiul!

  • @kisshello9101
    @kisshello9101 23 дні тому +3

    have you heard disintegration? pretty good

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому

      @@kisshello9101 I have, up until this record it was my favorite. Still some of my favorite Cure songs are on that record, but even Disintegration has a few tracks towards the backend that I skip occasionally.

  • @janfiala4765
    @janfiala4765 23 дні тому +1

    same! very well put

  • @Sept1973
    @Sept1973 22 дні тому +2

    Absolutely not

  • @bepitan
    @bepitan 22 дні тому +1

    well append the words 'for me' on your title because there is no way this is their best ..perhaps it might be their most profound but that's something else.

  • @No_Camping
    @No_Camping 23 дні тому +5

    No, it's not their best record, let's be serious one minute. But this is their best record since Wild Mood Swings (1996) included.
    Anybody thinking that The Cure would have become the legend that they are with ‘𝚂𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚜 𝙾𝚏 𝙰 𝙻𝚘𝚜𝚝 𝚆𝚘𝚛𝚕𝚍’ being their starting album is delusional, to be kind.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +1

      @@No_Camping I may agree with you if we’re talking singles and commercial success, but as a completed work this has no low points in my opinion. Even records like Wish and Disintegration have a couple tracks towards the backend that are skipable, but I respect your opinion.

    • @karenglenn6707
      @karenglenn6707 23 дні тому

      It really is subjective isn’t it? What you may prefer to this, others may not. It doesn’t make your opinion fact. It’s just that we’re different. I absolutely love this album, and I’ve loved them since they started.

  • @anthonyaiello4343
    @anthonyaiello4343 22 дні тому +1

    Great great great record, but NOT their greatest. Disintegration and Pornography are their 2 best and while you say Smith hasn't met the world from this perspective before, that's not at all true, evidenced by those earlier albums, and not just those 2. This might be number 3, but it'll take many more spins before it overtakes even Head on the Door for me, which also takes on the themes we find in Lost World.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  22 дні тому

      @@anthonyaiello4343 a fair assessment. Personally for me, even those great records have a couple low points for me. Not on this new record. Although Lost World is shorter, I feel they really put in the work over these past 16 years to make these songs something special.

  • @richmoreno9938
    @richmoreno9938 22 дні тому +1

    I love the power of music but be careful not to root yourself in morbid self reflection. You’re in the 30’s. Your dreams and hopes are within reach.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  22 дні тому

      @@richmoreno9938 I agree being caught in morbid self reflection is a trap, but the only way out is through. If we’ve lost someone, we must mourn them. We must allow ourselves to feel what we fear to feel, otherwise we will certainly be stuck in that morbid trap.

    • @richmoreno9938
      @richmoreno9938 21 день тому

      @ I’m sorry, I didn’t hear that part. My condolences to you.

  • @michaelcruz7704
    @michaelcruz7704 18 днів тому

    Disintegration is their best album.

  • @johnalexander-t6d
    @johnalexander-t6d 23 дні тому +3

    let be honest the bar has been set very low since wish... yes blood flowers had 3 or 4 good songs but since then its been pretty dire... that's almost a quarter of a century of nothing... touring, playing back catalogue but offering nothing worthy new.. whilst the new album is ok, it very lyrically tired, Smith is a man who's been saying the longest goodbye in history.. its cold its dark, i'm lost its the end... yeah great... i'm sure Ai could write these sort of songs in a split second...

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +3

      @@johnalexander-t6d personally, I disagree. A lot of those cliches are all over Wish and Disintegration, while this record has real weight to their lyrics. I mean seriously, one of the songs is about his brother dying..

    • @johnalexander-t6d
      @johnalexander-t6d 23 дні тому

      @MourningCoffeeMusic fast forward 10 years if he's alive, band member dies or his partner and it'll be i"m lost, alone, cold, grey, it's the end etc etc. The lyrics are tired, the songs too drawn out.. it's like an ai remake. That's just my opinion, I like /d the cure, saw them tour with the associates and the banshees way back.. I just think they are running on empty musically but clearly are a touring cash cow and this new album will certainly be a success which means there will be pressure to follow it up...

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic  23 дні тому +4

      @@johnalexander-t6d well in interviews Robert has already confirmed he has a follow up, one he said is even better than this, so maybe you’ll be happier with that record.. til then we can agree to disagree on this record. In my opinion, never have his lyrics been this good and real. Youth is romanticized and holds little weight in the face of actual loss and trauma. Even though I’m young, I know first hand what it’s like to write from real tragedy rather than romanticized curiosities.

    • @silversun119
      @silversun119 23 дні тому +2

      see past the lyrics and listen to the music, this album is a masterpiece