Peter Criss Explains Why He Got Fired From KISS by Paul Stanley in 2004

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • In this video we take a look at an interview that Peter Criss gave about why he was fired from KISS in 2004 and about how he didn't want it to be the end for him in the band. He also talked about how Paul and Gene wanted to continue KISS without him. This is from an Eddie Trunk interview Peter did back in 2004 fresh after all of this went down.
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    Peter Criss Explains Why He Got Fired From KISS by Paul & Gene in 2004!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 352

  • @robertdirocco1885
    @robertdirocco1885 5 днів тому +40

    He should’ve started a band called Kriss

    • @patben2330
      @patben2330 День тому +2

      With Ace !

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 День тому

      How many lawsuits

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 День тому +1

      Wouldve been a brilliant plan to leverage KISS into paying them millions. They would have settled & Pete & Ace would have came out pretty well.

    • @Carlos-xz3vi
      @Carlos-xz3vi 8 годин тому

      You’re a genius.

  • @tonysams7261
    @tonysams7261 4 дні тому +37

    Ace and Peter deserved better treatment at the end. Real diehard Kiss fans will always know this.

    • @WayneBarroncffcs
      @WayneBarroncffcs 3 дні тому +1

      More went on behind the scenes than the fans know about.

    • @AttilaGenghisHuyter
      @AttilaGenghisHuyter День тому

      Maybe the shouldn't have been drunken drug addicts.

  • @coxscorner
    @coxscorner 2 дні тому +7

    Peter, Paul, Ace, and Gene are Kiss to me, and always will be.

  • @nanocoppersilvereauozen2788
    @nanocoppersilvereauozen2788 11 днів тому +27

    My first time I heard and saw kiss was kiss alive 2 album, the image of that album cover and stage shot when you opened the double album blew my mind.

    • @midniterunband
      @midniterunband 4 дні тому

      I can’t count how many nights I fell asleep with that album in my hand rocking to it when I was a kid

  • @RayBachGuitar
    @RayBachGuitar 14 днів тому +204

    The biggest Kiss blunder was putting Ace and Peter’s makeup on Eric and Tommy. Embarrassing.

    • @Ticonderous1
      @Ticonderous1 13 днів тому +23

      I totally agree... No one would even care that Tommy and Eric were in the band IF they had their own make up designs .... There would be no backlash at all ...

    • @fazole
      @fazole 12 днів тому +4

      It may have to do with all the merchandise they already produced which show those 4 original members' characters. Then again, creating totally new characters would prompt fans to buy more NEW stuff, so who knows. The guy dressed as Ace was called a "supposed replacement for Ace" and he got pisssed!😅

    • @ThePatcore
      @ThePatcore 11 днів тому +2

      Agree, if they had Eric and tommy wear new makeup, or even had them wear the fox and Ankh, i woulda been cool with it.

    • @ThePatcore
      @ThePatcore 11 днів тому

      @@fazole I wrote this comment after only seeing the first sentence of your comment, so keep that in mind when you read mine... But now that I see your full comment, you do understand :) Anyhow, my reply to your 1st sentence: I disagree because kiss could have easily still sold those items and die hard collectors would have still bought it up as well as spent more money to buy the new merch the band could have produced showing the new 4 makeups (Or whatever makeups Eric S. and Tommy T. would have worm, be it original or the fox and Ankh. It actually would have made for more merch to sell on top of still selling merch with the original 4 on it.

    • @pooddescrewch8718
      @pooddescrewch8718 10 днів тому +7

      Not really . People are still buying tickets .

  • @broeheemed32
    @broeheemed32 10 днів тому +21

    Much like in The Eagles, it was ultimately ego that destroys. Most bands start out on equal footing, then the "stars" develop, it goes to their head, and they start demanding a bigger piece, more control, etc. In my experience, you can't easily have a successful band if there are varying degrees of "importance". A vocalist thinks he's more important than the lead guitarist... the lead guitarist thinks he's more important than the rhythm guitarist, they all think they're more valuable than the drummer or the bassist.... then the band fractures. Look at the masters: The Beatles, Queen, Led Zeppelin..... they never replaced someone over egos. They had their run, then disbanded, and never tried to be "the new.......". by replacing someone.

    • @Taylor.Dude.
      @Taylor.Dude. 4 дні тому +2

      Led Zeppelin and Rush never let egos get in the way, thankfully! They were all equals.

    • @juiceman8108
      @juiceman8108 4 дні тому

      Drummers and bass players are a dime a dozen, you can make it with hired guns for these spots

    • @hwagnerDUI
      @hwagnerDUI 3 дні тому

      Def Leopard stayed together. Original VH another ego implosion.

  • @karl-unoisaksson4000
    @karl-unoisaksson4000 14 днів тому +29

    Forever Gene Paul Ace and Peter in my heart... It's always you, Pete...
    Thanx for sharing 🙏
    Love from Sweden 💖

  • @ltjoseph9042
    @ltjoseph9042 12 днів тому +8

    Guitar player
    weighs in:
    Peter is absolutely
    right. He's completely
    correct. The original
    Kiss is the only Kiss
    that matters. New
    Kiss? Peter doesn't
    buy it. Neither do I.

  • @tupole272
    @tupole272 14 днів тому +15

    What I had heard. And Ace kind of said this too. Ace told Peter he was making twice as much as him. So Peter got mad and refused to sign a new deal unless he made more money. Paul n Gene said no.

    • @glengamble526
      @glengamble526 14 днів тому +4

      He never made twice as much-but he DID make a little more for a while, yes.

    • @jasonl1942
      @jasonl1942 4 дні тому +3

      Paul and gene being greedy? That's never been heard of before...

    • @jeffmcdonald9004
      @jeffmcdonald9004 День тому

      Ten thousand a show more. Ace is a much bigger star.

  • @user-mz1mx6vc8m
    @user-mz1mx6vc8m 11 днів тому +18

    Paul almost had it right, they should have named the band PISS after Peter and Ace left 😀

    • @Anglovox
      @Anglovox День тому

      Except for the one song, I Love it Loud," I TOTALLY agree with you.

  • @Rieju-Sherco
    @Rieju-Sherco 14 днів тому +5

    Thank you again and again!! Honest, it is that simple

  • @Xconn67
    @Xconn67 2 дні тому +1

    The original four had a symmetry, and Peter and Ace seemed like far and above more accomplished musicians in the band , they never sounded the same or produced the same quality of songs after they left

  • @WayneBarroncffcs
    @WayneBarroncffcs 3 дні тому +1

    During the Lost Cities tour, I took my son, who was 4 at the time, to Chapel Hill, NC, for the first show. The drum solo Peter played sounded like something off from a Disney movie.
    I remember my son telling me.
    >> Daddy, Pete Kitty Kitty is playing Disney.
    The girl in front of us and I was puzzled about why he was playing it.
    Peter could not perform at the show after ours, as his elbows were giving him issues, so the drum tech took his place.
    We found out the reason Peter played that solo was because he was in pain during the entire show, so he played something simple and easy. In all honesty, it would have been best if he did not do the solo to being with, but Peter would always say that it was his time to have to himself on stage without the others out there with him. So he played a drum solo that sounded like a kiddy movie theme instead of doing the right thing.
    I am truly surprised he lasted as long as he did.
    So, there is reason behind this information, if it is indeed true that they said it.

  • @MaitreMark
    @MaitreMark День тому

    Well said Peter! I was an athlete in my 20s and 30s - being a full time athlete you are always carrying an injury. You treat it preform and treat it again. It is the only way.

  • @ajjy1110
    @ajjy1110 6 днів тому +4

    wasn't fired they just didn't renew his contract

  • @user-uv7tz8wo2z
    @user-uv7tz8wo2z 15 днів тому +7

    I Agree with what Criss is saying here I only listen to the old stuff because in my opinion that's the Real kiss the other stuff the People the Fans we no Nothing about it we weren't behind the Scene seeing it.

  • @carlvoltz1808
    @carlvoltz1808 15 днів тому +61

    When kiss came out I enjoyed them when they got rid Peter and ace it was not Kiss

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 15 днів тому +9

      It was KISS. Paul and Gene did by far most of the work in the 70's. Not much changed after Ace quit and Peter was fired. They ended up being replaced by better musicians and bandmates and people

    • @garytrew2766
      @garytrew2766 14 днів тому +5

      I agree that was when they quit getting my money too.

    • @BeardedMikeG
      @BeardedMikeG 13 днів тому +5

      They didn't get rid of Ace. He quit

    • @jamesmartin8385
      @jamesmartin8385 10 днів тому

      @@brianstrutter1501No. It wasn’t.

    • @pooddescrewch8718
      @pooddescrewch8718 10 днів тому +2

      Yeah they were . I wanted the originals too but subsequent units if Kiss got the job done too .

  • @mimaspa1234
    @mimaspa1234 14 днів тому +4

    i agree with Peter. Paul and Gene should of that what peter said

  • @-MetalSage-
    @-MetalSage- 3 дні тому +1

    My favorite member of KISS, and the reason I became a drummer. 🤘🏻

  • @vegasraiderspetef9883
    @vegasraiderspetef9883 14 днів тому +8

    tommy and eric singeer gave the band new life ,and 20 more years.Drumming is hard and peter was struggling

    • @zmaninpgh
      @zmaninpgh 3 дні тому

      Well… Peter always had to ask his wrists in ice after the shows when they did the reunion tours. It was hard on him back then…

  • @robmitchell5603
    @robmitchell5603 14 днів тому +3

    In my opinion kiss is and always will be peter paul gene and ace that's kiss that will always be kiss

  • @gregnevels8111
    @gregnevels8111 День тому

    The fact that Paul and Gene don't speak to each other speaks volumes.

  • @ronniepatterson2827
    @ronniepatterson2827 13 днів тому +7

    57 year old stroke having former drummer myself, I worshipped Peter & was lucky enough to catch my childhood obsession live on the Dynasty tour, shortly before he crushed my soul & left KISS. As a grown man, I will always love & respect Peter for what he gave KISS fans worldwide, especially me. That said, I belive what the other guys say about his time in KISS, cause its still excuse after excuse, same as when he got his wish the first round. Sooo, why didn't you play on so GD many KISS albums, Mr rockstar millionaire dream catcher Sir? Tummy ache? Room to cold? Fair enough. But what about group photos of you in flats, or live photos with half your makeup missing Mr semi talented / lucky af ? Feet hurting at that shoot, & eyes burning at that show? Ok then, sounds legit. lol Eddy Trunk's best work was when he produced the band ICON, while his worst work is his softball interviews of his rock idols - full stop

  • @rickfortine7454
    @rickfortine7454 40 хвилин тому

    Tommy was the founder of the top KISS tribute group in LA / Hollywood back in the day called " Cold Gin " You can still see them here on UA-cam !!! Also Eric was a well known Gunslinger on the drums playing for many top artists such as Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Lita Ford, Badlands, Brian May and Gary Moore as well as his own band ESP ... Not to mention Eric has always been a super nice guy to everyone !

  • @allans7281
    @allans7281 15 днів тому +46

    My eyes have to match what I’m hearing you need the original 4 that’s just the bottom line
    Taking nothing away from Eric and Tommy they’re incredible musicians but the magic is only with the four that’s the way it is

    • @stephenlandry9343
      @stephenlandry9343 15 днів тому +6

      Right on man!

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 15 днів тому +6

      Completely false. Why do you expect Paul and Gene to work with people that they don't get along with? Would you work with someone you don't get along with if you didn't have to? Of course not. Get over it. Ace is a lazy bum. Peter is a prick. They don't work well together. Time to move on

    • @user-rc1qq9pn7k
      @user-rc1qq9pn7k 15 днів тому +8

      Ace Peter and gene an Paul that's kiss. Not that imposter line up

    • @user-tn4fd6tp3p
      @user-tn4fd6tp3p 14 днів тому

      No era magia era juventud los primeros años de Eric y kulick mucha más magia y mejores conciertos eso es lo q hay kulick bmejor y Singer y Carr mucho mejor es lo qbyo he visto ....

    • @user-tn4fd6tp3p
      @user-tn4fd6tp3p 14 днів тому

      ​@@user-rc1qq9pn7ksi tu llegas a un trabajo y hay otros q llevan más antigüedad q tu. Ah siiii eres un impostor !!

  • @xoox2609
    @xoox2609 5 днів тому +2

    The problem I hear are the words contracts and attorneys. I understand, at some point, you have to treat a band as a business, but if you need lawyers and managers to communicate with each other, your band is already fucked.

  • @kravin74
    @kravin74 15 днів тому +12

    I discovered a new song, new as in I had never noticed it before, by Peter that I really like, Blue Moon Over Brooklyn. I'm surprised it's not a bigger song than it is.

    • @martywhite2988
      @martywhite2988 14 днів тому +2

      It's terrible.

    • @tatts2004
      @tatts2004 14 днів тому +2

      crisscat#1 album great song

    • @TheGodYouWishYouKnew
      @TheGodYouWishYouKnew 14 днів тому +1

      It sounds like something a 12 year old wrote and recorded.

    • @kravin74
      @kravin74 14 днів тому +4

      @@TheGodYouWishYouKnew hahaha well that's pretty harsh! We all have our different likes and don't likes. Would be pretty boring if we all liked the same thing I imagine. I'm sure we like and dislike a lot of the same things but that's ok.

  • @michaelaskates9523
    @michaelaskates9523 6 днів тому +1

    Peter is his own drummer 🥁 I liked

  • @renatatarnawski5974
    @renatatarnawski5974 15 днів тому +12

    Gene has always been a Hard Taskmaster
    That's Y Kiss has survived
    And Thrived from their products

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 15 днів тому +4

      Same with Paul

    • @pauli.vanili
      @pauli.vanili 15 днів тому +6

      They haven't "thrived". They were irrelevant and almost broke and busted during a lot of the unmasked period. They copied every fad they could to try and keep up with everyone else in the industry until the reunion tour. Ace and Peter revived kiss and then Paul and gene dressed two imposters up and made kiss a tribute band because that's where the money is, that's all they're interested in, money.

    • @christine3043
      @christine3043 14 днів тому +3

      @@pauli.vanili… you hit the nail on the head.

  • @brettsmeltzer2447
    @brettsmeltzer2447 14 днів тому

    Is there a Part Two?

  • @Donandjess0305
    @Donandjess0305 10 днів тому +3

    Love the originals. But too much bullshit with Ace and Peter. Though I agree, shouldn’t have put the makeup on Eric and Tommy. However, before Paul lost his voice? Those guys were awesome. At the end, the farewell with Peter and Ace was terrible. Drums were terrible. Ace was back to being Ace.

  • @Sulee.0
    @Sulee.0 14 днів тому +15

    Believe it or not... Peter was a beast in 2003/04 and was in his best shape ever (after Alive) its facts..

    • @TheGodYouWishYouKnew
      @TheGodYouWishYouKnew 14 днів тому +6

      I will take “or not”

    • @Sulee.0
      @Sulee.0 14 днів тому

      @@TheGodYouWishYouKnew Thats ur opinion :)

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 9 днів тому +3

      He was absolutely one of the best five drummers on planet earth 🌏 from 74-78!!!!

    • @markstoudenmire4935
      @markstoudenmire4935 8 днів тому +2

      ​@@kevinchandler179 You don't know much about drumming, do you?

    • @fundhund62
      @fundhund62 5 днів тому

      ​@@kevinchandler179Hardly. But if he was your favorite, what does it matter?

  • @r.s.334
    @r.s.334 День тому

    Sounds like a wise nice man.

  • @CHEMICALLEMON98
    @CHEMICALLEMON98 День тому

    I wish they all played together until the end. BUT there is no way Peter and Ace could have made it until the end…simple

  • @richardwarfordjr.5622
    @richardwarfordjr.5622 3 дні тому +1

    Its not Kiss without Peter and ACE

  • @JeffSherlock
    @JeffSherlock 2 дні тому +1

    I think being fired from Kiss is a bit like being fired from Dollar store. Not a big thing.

  • @therealandrecorbin4050
    @therealandrecorbin4050 7 днів тому +1

    Anyone ever seen Paul Stanley and Ronald MacDonald in the same room

  • @user-rc1qq9pn7k
    @user-rc1qq9pn7k 15 днів тому +17

    Peter is one of the nicest people he is humble and always forth coming honest

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 15 днів тому

      Incorrect. Pathological liar and a prick to his bandmates

    • @patof72clune51
      @patof72clune51 14 днів тому +2

      Not so nice when he cheated on his wife & destroyed his body & mind with vices & disrespected his fans by performing badly under the influence of vices.
      That's why he was fired.

    • @glengamble526
      @glengamble526 14 днів тому +3

      Clearly you’ve never met him then…especially on a bad day.

  • @kge403
    @kge403 14 днів тому +3

    ベス、シャンディ、フォーエバー、好き

  • @DannyPepprs
    @DannyPepprs 12 днів тому +1

    Long live the OG Catman Peter Criss

  • @tomkat_Kansas
    @tomkat_Kansas 12 днів тому +1

    Ace and Peter got to big to young. They didn't stay focused back in the day because drinking and drugs were more important. My opinion anyway. I saw the original Kiss in 77 and Ace play in 2022. Always will be a fan.

  • @aleksik4028
    @aleksik4028 2 дні тому

    Did he play on Kiss records, did he even play on his own solo album? What I've heard no. The wonders of showbiz....

  • @deannawitt9376
    @deannawitt9376 9 днів тому +2

    He bitched about everything. He couldn't play the drums, they had to give him lessons and his dope was a issue. He had a issue with the hotel employees.

    • @jeffhodge7272
      @jeffhodge7272 8 днів тому +1

      Ace said Peter was like a "dark cloud" over the band.His words.
      But Gene and Paul knew from practically from day 1 what they were dealing with.Imagine if they found Eric Carr first?😊

  • @jasonl1942
    @jasonl1942 4 дні тому

    Of all the surviving kiss members ive met, ironically the nicest of the original line up were peter and ace.
    Bruce is also in that mix too.
    The rest i could have lived without.

  • @michaelcorreira8125
    @michaelcorreira8125 11 днів тому +5

    When a family member falls off the wagon (drugs & alcohol) over and over again and is dangerous, you must, for self preservation, remove yourself from that dangerous person.
    Ace and Peter are dangerous.

  • @Anglovox
    @Anglovox День тому

    If Peter's explanation does not somewhere in it include the word, "cocaine," then he's in denial.

  • @janetevis1735
    @janetevis1735 8 днів тому

    Peter Criss is my favorite singer in 💋 KISS, he wrote the song 🎵 Beth and that song was so Beautiful ❤No matter what people will think! As for Paul and Gene they should apologize to Peter for saying those awful things they said about him! And Paul Stanley also called Peter an Ace Anti- Simentic, when they were most definitely not!!! How do I know who said that because I read somewhere that Ace or Peter, I dont know who ever said that but they said that's ridiculous because they have Jewish friends!!! Paul needs to be a better person and a better friend!!!

  • @RS-qo1rb
    @RS-qo1rb 2 дні тому

    Paul said that he slowed and speed up songs during a concert. And they sold there characters.

  • @user-us4vu8us4g
    @user-us4vu8us4g 13 днів тому +1

    Those guys just wanted to undercut Ace and Peter. He knew he could get the other two to play way cheaper.

  • @WilliamCurry-bh3dk
    @WilliamCurry-bh3dk 15 днів тому

    they wont change

  • @jimkalfakis9893
    @jimkalfakis9893 3 дні тому +2

    I love these guys but, both Peter and Ace sold their makeup. Why are we still complaining?

  • @Afurthyclays
    @Afurthyclays 3 дні тому

    "Why I hate everyone significant from my past"
    By Paul Stanley

  • @degatagauwatie4073
    @degatagauwatie4073 5 днів тому +1

    He'll be seventy-nine this year.

  • @janetevis1735
    @janetevis1735 8 днів тому

    Paul Stanley is a mean guy and he even wrote a book about how bad Peter Criss and Ace were and he was insulting them!!! Gene Simmons was the same as Paul and they think they own the KISS Band too!!! I hope 🙏 Peter Criss sues Paul Stanley for writing that book!!! But I understand if he doesn't, because I would never sue anyone no matter what they say!

  • @marcdewey1242
    @marcdewey1242 12 днів тому +1

    I listened to Kiss in the seventies,until they became too main stream

  • @jenniferanne4143
    @jenniferanne4143 10 днів тому +1

    I think all parties involved here have handled all of this well though..🤔👍

    • @user-mz1mx6vc8m
      @user-mz1mx6vc8m 5 днів тому

      I know Ace is still out there rocking 😀

  • @haroldlebo2005
    @haroldlebo2005 День тому

    Tell me I'm wrong , every time a band loses an original member the chemistry between the fan and band goes and the band goes downhill from there

  • @davidpelant9845
    @davidpelant9845 9 днів тому

    I agree

  • @bloodboughtsaint777
    @bloodboughtsaint777 8 днів тому

    I agree that the OG KISS was KISS. When Eric Carr, and Eventually Bruce Kulick, joined KISS, that was the New KISS.
    They would drop the makeup, of course; but Eric and Vinny had their own makeup... they didn't barrow Peter's and Ace's personas.
    I really felt it was a slap in the face to Peter and Ace that Tommy and Eric Singer didn't get their own KISS personas, but reused Peter's and Ace's. It was wrong, and Paul and Gene know it.
    Although, I'm probably not the most authoritative KISS fan... my 2 favorite KISS albums are Music from the Elder, and Ace's Solo Album. I also own Revenge, but only for Eric Carr's Jam track at the end of it.

  • @mariek6993
    @mariek6993 14 днів тому +1

    paul and gene found out they could do it without ace and peter and they didn't want to bring them back and split things evenly even though it was the right thing to do (if ace and peter were up to it)... i think they could have been up to it....

    • @jeffhodge7272
      @jeffhodge7272 8 днів тому

      People make it sound like being a "hired gun" is easy.Or a bad thing.TONS of people including both Kulick brothers were.
      Bob and Sean Delany weren't even members of the band and got platinum albums.😊❤

  • @thomasgonzalez1610
    @thomasgonzalez1610 12 днів тому

    I do agree that if it's a new Kiss, quit playing the Alive 1 setlist, drop the makeup. At the same time, this wasn't a huge surprise. If you read Peter's book, to hear him say he's not a complainer is just a false statement. His whole book is a whine fest. I didn't get this, I didn't get that. They had to hire a limo to take him to a bar gig because he needed to feel important. He isn't the greatest drummer,and humility was lost on him. Paul and Gene stayed hungry even after the money train rolled in. Ace and Peter got comfortable and stopped progressing. I love them both, but in my mind, Kiss stopped at Unmasked. It's been a new band ever since, and they should have branded it as such. I remember watching Mtv the day they took the makeup off. I felt duped that 2 guys were impostors.

  • @Vabrejuro
    @Vabrejuro 15 днів тому +3

    ✨✨🎶✨✨🎶🎶✨✨🎶✨✨

  • @basanistes359
    @basanistes359 3 дні тому

    Kiss was a novelty band in the 70's and that's where they belong. Without the makeup we wouldn't even know they ever existed today.

    • @aliceborealis
      @aliceborealis День тому

      I kind of agree, but the Kiss Alive! album cannot be denied.I know it's not really 'live', but it's still a great album!

  • @lalalisa9307
    @lalalisa9307 День тому

    Big Eddie was my friend

  • @berniecasey7592
    @berniecasey7592 9 днів тому

    WE LOVE YOU REGARDLESS PETER

  • @KevinEllisGuitars
    @KevinEllisGuitars 4 дні тому

    ❤ Peter Criss!

  • @user-gu4cc3ib6c
    @user-gu4cc3ib6c 3 дні тому

    Without Ace, and Peter...Kiss is squat..

  • @thehouseofautumnspells258
    @thehouseofautumnspells258 15 днів тому +31

    Kiss fucked up.
    Several times...

    • @RikJSmith
      @RikJSmith 15 днів тому +5

      Agreed . And unfortunately it was several times .

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 15 днів тому +9

      Ace and Peter fucked up several times

    • @TheGodYouWishYouKnew
      @TheGodYouWishYouKnew 14 днів тому +3

      Must be why Paul and Gene have more more money than they could spend in 5 lifetimes.

  • @beerubbed7345
    @beerubbed7345 4 дні тому

    Why ace and Peter didn't put a new band together blows my mind

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif 4 дні тому

    kiss makeup was trademark to band.

  • @poeslanding
    @poeslanding День тому

    I didn't like that they used Tommy and Eric. But it wasn't a new kiss because they had them emulate Peter and Aces solos. They were just caricatures of Ace and Peter. Did they really put pick ups in peters drums so they would sound bigger when he hit them because he couldn't hit them as hard? I just wish Ace would've got clean a lot sooner so I could've stayed in the band. I saw Jason Peter on their solo tour and 95 and wish they would get back together and they ended up doing just that. The psycho Circus show at dodger Stadium is still the best concert I've ever been to. Also Paul is a liberal and Gene is a conservative which is why they haven't talked much in a long time.

  • @misfit2022
    @misfit2022 12 днів тому +4

    No one plays Detroit Rock City as well as Peter

  • @Carlos-xz3vi
    @Carlos-xz3vi 8 годин тому

    I get that Peter is the original and all that, but Carr and Singer were light years ahead of Peter Criss.

  • @pl33
    @pl33 День тому

    I assumed he got fired because he was a bad kitty 😺

  • @WonkaVator72
    @WonkaVator72 4 дні тому

    Interesting. So they (the members other than PC) wanted new, younger blood in the band. Did they also plan to replace themselves?

  • @smeyer9507
    @smeyer9507 10 днів тому +1

    ..Peter had too many personal 'problems' to keep up, physically, psychologically, and health wise, (drugs may have been an issue, as well, or perhaps the "Whole" Problem with him.)

  • @Ckom-Tunes
    @Ckom-Tunes 2 дні тому

    Didn’t Peter roll the dice by taking a payout when Kiss was at its nadir. He didn’t see a future in Kiss so he simply took a wad of cash instead of forging through the hard times. Paul and Gene risked everything and took ownership of Kiss-and it paid off keeping Kiss going for another three decades!

  • @ufmwc
    @ufmwc 12 днів тому

    P&G couldn't have cared less as long the cash till kept getting filled. Bringing back A&P was just a vehicle for them to reestablish a then floundering makeup-less/identity-less band and start selling tickets again. Once that reunion audience momentum (with makeup) was established they brought in the scrubs to finish the deal. Without A&P they wouldn't have been able to reestablish the makeup era and institute the hired gun cruise control they've been riding now for 20+ years..

  • @ochocabra1542
    @ochocabra1542 10 днів тому +4

    i simply can't listen to Eddie Trunk

  • @user-cb2kb8uc2q
    @user-cb2kb8uc2q 12 днів тому +1

    The CDs in the 2000s are not memorable

  • @Grodd70
    @Grodd70 20 годин тому

    We are going to have NEW KISS. Yes, they will look like old Kiss, they will dress like old Kiss, they will play the songs from old Kiss. The difference is with new Kiss we control everything and we can pay them less, that's new Kiss.

  • @viking_2112
    @viking_2112 13 днів тому

    Unfortunately its natural. You put 4 people in a band who are motivated by money in some form and all have massive ego's and its going to blow up. There's just no way it wouldn't in that situation so ultimately its really no ones fault as its just one of those things that happens. How each member handled it though is a different story

  • @hairnation68
    @hairnation68 3 дні тому

    Sad how greedy Gene and Paul are. They all should have been paid the same minus the expenses.

  • @MrChriswest07
    @MrChriswest07 6 днів тому

    Oh Peter, Get over it

  • @digitaldesigner5284
    @digitaldesigner5284 13 днів тому +1

    2027 Kiss New Era !

    • @jeffhodge7272
      @jeffhodge7272 8 днів тому

      I want to see new members,makeup and much heavier,darker tunes.
      Almost a Goth look but still in line with the 4 original "characters" in mind.🎶🎸🥁🤟🔥🩸

  • @eugenebeecher7308
    @eugenebeecher7308 День тому

    Paul = Frasier Crane

  • @jasonrob1900
    @jasonrob1900 12 днів тому +2

    You’re fired cause you’re too old Yeah like Paul and gene are young 😂

    • @mattrock12
      @mattrock12 5 днів тому

      That’s Peter’s take. Not theirs.

  • @marvinmartin3438
    @marvinmartin3438 4 дні тому

    Kiss stopped being Kiss when Gene and Ace left.Just sayin

  • @user-rc1qq9pn7k
    @user-rc1qq9pn7k 15 днів тому +12

    Paul Stanley just wanted to have total control he wanted people who only do what they are told to do no back talk or anything

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 15 днів тому +2

      Not true. That's what Peter wants you to believe

    • @user-rc1qq9pn7k
      @user-rc1qq9pn7k 15 днів тому

      Must be a Paul Stanley fan you must like being ripped off paying for a non live show you must not know there are more than one side of a story Paul Stanley is a hypocrite and a egomaniac

    • @butchstevenson7029
      @butchstevenson7029 15 днів тому +4

      @@brianstrutter1501 while I agree that Paul and Gene started the group Ace and Peter made up the core members of the band. They were right there with Paul and Gene paying their dues. They were there from the beginning. They created the personas. Yes, there were problematic moments in the past , and Paul and Gene managed to keep the band alive in a different direction, but you still can’t take that away from them. I totally get your argument (you’ve had a few retorts to some of these comments) , but then take the makeup and costumes off and perform the songs without it. Because it just comes off like a cash grab and they’re only delivering half the goods.

    • @pauldunlea3669
      @pauldunlea3669 14 днів тому +3

      @@butchstevenson7029 I Agree and I have been a fan for 44 years

    • @pauldunlea3669
      @pauldunlea3669 14 днів тому +6

      I met Paul and he was one Arrogant man / Full of himself

  • @user-mz1mx6vc8m
    @user-mz1mx6vc8m 13 днів тому +26

    Without Ace and Peter, it's just a tribute band 🙃

    • @ThePatcore
      @ThePatcore 11 днів тому

      Without Ace and Peter, they shoulda either created new characters for Eric and Tommy, or just taken the makeup back off and brought back Bruce Kulick.

    • @user-mz1mx6vc8m
      @user-mz1mx6vc8m 11 днів тому +2

      @@ThePatcore KISS was the first band that I've ever seen in 1974, I was 12 years old, I seen them with Bruce, and they sucked, actually the worst KISS concert I ever seen, they are just not KISS without Peter and Ace 🙃

    • @user-mz1mx6vc8m
      @user-mz1mx6vc8m 11 днів тому +1

      Paul almost had it right, they should have named the band PISS😀

    • @jeffhodge7272
      @jeffhodge7272 8 днів тому

      Like every other band with replacement members?
      Got it.

    • @user-mz1mx6vc8m
      @user-mz1mx6vc8m 8 днів тому +2

      @@jeffhodge7272 when Bon Scott died, and Brian took his place, I can see that, they are still AC DC, but KISS , that's different.

  • @Taylor.Dude.
    @Taylor.Dude. 4 дні тому

    Gene & Paul squeezed him out of the band so they can take home more $$$! Pay the new young guys less. "Be grateful we hired you!" They did this to Vinnie Vincent and others.

  • @jimmcgee3016
    @jimmcgee3016 4 дні тому

    Shut up Peter, you screwed up twice...period

  • @FriedPi-mc5yt
    @FriedPi-mc5yt 2 дні тому

    It is insulting that any new band member would wear Peter or Ace’s makeup. It’s bull$hit. They aren’t Peter and they aren’t Ace.

  • @63Drums19
    @63Drums19 13 днів тому +3

    Peter did not have the chops to play any of the songs with double bass or semi complicated fills. Eric Carr and Eric Singer were far superior drummers. Peter was my first drumming influence and I respect the work that he did.

    • @ufmwc
      @ufmwc 12 днів тому +1

      Paul Stanley hasn't had the 'chops' to sing in KISS for 15 years! Didn't stop him from foisting his hoarseness and fakery on the fans..

    • @63Drums19
      @63Drums19 12 днів тому +1

      @@ufmwc No argument here.

  • @WilliamCurry-bh3dk
    @WilliamCurry-bh3dk 15 днів тому +3

    OH Peter

  • @jaytee0316
    @jaytee0316 14 днів тому +7

    When it comes to KISS, and Gene and Paul, it’s down to money. They wanted all of the money, and contracted “younger” talent because they didn’t pay them as much. The original four it was split four ways, new kiss it was split two ways, and even then they argued over money.

  • @rickfortine7454
    @rickfortine7454 Годину тому

    Peter Criss relinquished his rights to his makeup when he left the band in 2004, which he later claims he was pissed at himself for letting his trademark makeup slip through his hands ! Ace often claims he licensed his design to the band, but Stanley said that's a false story. Paul Stanley said that Ace Frehley and Peter Criss cut a cheap deal over their trademark makeup because they didn’t understand its value. Tommy and Eric wear the Spaceman and Catman designs after the original members handed over the rights. Peter and Ace basically sold it off for pennies on the dollar because they didn’t think it was worth anything. None of them had any idea how huge the reunion in make-up would become ... In the end it turned out to become a billion dollar windfall !!!

  • @CarbiesChronicles
    @CarbiesChronicles 15 днів тому +15

    glad KISS is over. seeing 2 guys not even real members rake in the cash that peter and ace could have shared is bothersome

    • @andrewhatcher2702
      @andrewhatcher2702 14 днів тому +2

      Yall act like Kiss wasnt a band without Tommy & Eric for like 15 years give or take..

    • @TheGodYouWishYouKnew
      @TheGodYouWishYouKnew 14 днів тому +1

      @@andrewhatcher2702a better band at that

  • @abefielding7630
    @abefielding7630 14 днів тому +3

    I'm a fan of Peter and Ace, but being in bands my whole life, sometimes ya gotta cut the fat. KISS would have been done after Dynasty if it wasn't for Paul Stanely holding the fort together.

  • @jastking
    @jastking День тому

    If you seen the documentary, you know this is a big ol bag of bs , Peter fugged it up. Get over it.