Which Commuter e-bike is best for you? Aventon Level 2 vs Velotric Discover 2

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  • @jimsaddler942
    @jimsaddler942 2 місяці тому +2

    This video convinced me I wanted to purchase the Velotric. However, when the Black Friday deals came out this week, the Aventon bike was $400 LESS than the Velotric bike! I went with the Aventon and couldn't be happier!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  2 місяці тому

      That's awesome! It's always good to get a great deal!

  • @DivineDart
    @DivineDart 10 місяців тому +9

    I had my mind set on the level 2 but this Discover has really impressed me in the last few days I've seen

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому

      The decision is tough. I know your struggle.

    • @E-Eightyfive
      @E-Eightyfive 10 місяців тому +2

      D2 for sure

    • @DivineDart
      @DivineDart 10 місяців тому

      @@E-Eightyfive yeah there's a place right next to my office that deals and services them so it's pretty solid

    • @Definitely8860
      @Definitely8860 3 місяці тому

      Yeah D2

    • @MartinDee2000
      @MartinDee2000 День тому

      DivineDart. Which bike (if either) did you end up buying?

  • @DougBlunt
    @DougBlunt 10 місяців тому +4

    Scott one of the best reviews you have done. We personally like the Aventon because of the dealer network. You can go to your bike shop and test ridev

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks Doug. I understand about the dealer network. Velotric is expanding their dealership network as well but they are not where Aventon is at this moment in time.

  • @RafaelContreras-e3e
    @RafaelContreras-e3e 2 місяці тому +2

    I really enjoyed your head to head - I keep watching my favorite videos - We are due a Level 3....

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and I agree, we need a level 3.

  • @johnlewis6880
    @johnlewis6880 10 місяців тому +6

    I looked at the level bike before my last bike purchase. The deal breaker was the lack of stem mounting points for a front basket or rack on the level bike. I had also assumed that I would have to invest in a new adjustable stem for the handlebars because the riding position of my Aventon Adventure (stolen) was too far forward for comfortable commuting.
    The Discover 2 is the best bike, for my purposes, that I have seen. Velotric really put a lot of thought into the design of their bikes

  • @deshawnthomas
    @deshawnthomas 10 місяців тому +10

    I swear to god you read minds! These are two bikes I’ve narrowed it down to (thanks to you since I get a sense of what they’d be like to own in Chicago!)
    And now this is the perfect video to help me make a decision between the two.
    Clutch as always, Scott!

  • @JacobFramework
    @JacobFramework 7 місяців тому +7

    I just bought the Aventon Level 2! I got an extra battery, a hefty chain lock, the bike in dark grey, and a phone mount for $1484! Unfortunately, both the Discover 2 and the Level 2 have increased to $1899, so the total for a Discover 2 with the same accessories is just under a whopping $2500! Times certainly are a-changing. Aventon still offers a free extra battery at the time of writing, and Velotroc offers $100 off the battery, so there's some consolation!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the input!

    • @ozmozpot2
      @ozmozpot2 7 місяців тому

      Level 2 needs indicators

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  7 місяців тому +1

      @@ozmozpot2 I bet the next version has them.

    • @JacobFramework
      @JacobFramework 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ozmozpot2 pace has them, so no reason why level shouldn't

  • @tomyboy742
    @tomyboy742 5 місяців тому +1

    Sir, I inherited a lectric 2.0 about 15 months ago and at first thought it was a novelty. I began to commute to work everyday, but because it has cable brakes I'm getting it serviced every six weeks. I got curios about the quality bikes, saw the Aventon... and I'm glad I found your video before I pulled the purchase trigger. The hill comparison alone sold me the Discover 2! (wife said mint was my personality color) 😁

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  5 місяців тому

      Nice. I am glad I was able to get you the info needed to make the best decision for you. Thanks for watching!

  • @Calusa.Wanderer
    @Calusa.Wanderer День тому

    I have a pair of Aventon level2’s. Number one on our list was ridability, without power assist. The level 2 two does fantastic as a bike. If speed is what I need, I grab my Honda Vtx and ride that instead.

  • @tonygiancoli9626
    @tonygiancoli9626 10 місяців тому +13

    Would have leaned towards the Discover 2 based on what I had seen/ heard before your comparison, but this only confirms that the Discover 2 offers quite a bit more for the same price.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      Glad to help!

    • @NavrajSimran
      @NavrajSimran 9 місяців тому

      Is there any pro the level 2 has over the discover 2?? It seems Veloctric has them beat on every spec! Saw both at my local bike shop. Can view the screen on the veloctric even with polarized sunglasses. Was going to pull the trigger but learned the large sizes are all OOS rn and can't place an order. So went with original choice level 2, but will probably have serious FOMO when the discover is back in or a level 3 comes out 🤔

    • @palmerfralick
      @palmerfralick 9 місяців тому +2

      @@NavrajSimran should've waited on the Velotric

    • @NavrajSimran
      @NavrajSimran 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@palmerfralickyou know what, couple days later canceled my Aventon order and placed one for the Veloctric at a different bike shop that was able to. Missed the cutoff for May delivery I guess, so now waiting patiently for some time in June!! Waited this long already, what's another month...

    • @DM-fp8uw
      @DM-fp8uw 9 місяців тому +1

      I would buy the one with the dealers closest to you b

  • @michaelderwin381
    @michaelderwin381 6 місяців тому +1

    I have owned a Level 2 for about 1 year and I love it. I wish it had turn signals and a more powerful motor for climbing San Francisco hills.
    I rented the Discover 2 for a week on Cape Cod and I loved it a bit more because it has integrated turn signals; a more powerful motor; and the throttle can be unlocked to 30mph.
    The torque sensor in the Level 2 is more responsive than the Discover torque sensor, which has a lag.
    I've added or changed on my Level 2 the following: added a suspension seat; changed the handlebar grips; added a mirror, bell, handlebar riser with phone mount and headlight, and turn signals. Also added a Topeak front rack. I bought the Level2 thru a local Aventon dealer who is giving me 2 free tuneups during the 2 year warranty period. I replaced my rear brake pads after 1 year because they had worn out.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  6 місяців тому +1

      I bet when they come out with the Level 3 it will be awesome. Thanks for sharing!

  • @johnfreed4651
    @johnfreed4651 10 місяців тому +1

    I think both brands are well-made and you can’t go wrong with either. I have the discover1 and I know a lot of people ride Aventon in my area. Great review!

  • @Definitely8860
    @Definitely8860 2 місяці тому

    Just got my Discover 2, it's a beast, from a standstill it feels like it's going for lift off hitting the throttle. Love the features, especially turn signals, hydraulic brakes. The bike is much more powerful than I thought. It's comfortable to ride and the battery lasts a long time

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  2 місяці тому

      That's awesome! I am glad you're enjoying the Discover 2.

  • @paulshevchenko1432
    @paulshevchenko1432 9 місяців тому +7

    I own both
    Velotric all the way
    Waiting on the high step version

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому +1

      I don't know if they will be coming out with a high step version of the Discover.

    • @papillon8968
      @papillon8968 День тому

      They had them before. I think 2022 and before. There are a few discover 1s floating on the market place but it's rather old.
      Mechanical brakes less milage etc.

  • @mattgreven7615
    @mattgreven7615 9 місяців тому +2

    The Aventon is now available in "glacier," kind of a minty-blue. I like the fact that the battery on the velotric is mounted on the top of the tube, which seems like it's less susceptible to road crap. Then again--might make it more vulnerable to rain. I like the reflective tires too. those are super bright at night.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      I saw where Aventon was coming out with cool colors to a few of their bikes!

  • @genemcloud4114
    @genemcloud4114 4 місяці тому

    I just test rode both of these bikes today. Frankly I don’t recall which was which. Of course I was on flat paved road and only rode for a few minutes on each.
    All that said, this video has me learning towards the Discover 2.
    Thanks for the head to head overview.
    I’m gonna exercise some patience and hope for some holiday discounts!
    Oh, BTW, currently riding an oldie Goldie 2018 RAD City. Even this ancient ride is pure joy 🤗

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching! In my book, as long as you are out there riding and enjoying it, any bike can be a win.

  • @nicklam13
    @nicklam13 4 місяці тому

    Thanks Scott for the great review. I was having so much problems deciding on these two bikes. You made my decision so much easier to choose. The throttle speed on the D2 speed did it for me. Thank you my friend 👍

  • @rafaelcontreras3881
    @rafaelcontreras3881 2 місяці тому

    The ride on the level two feels just right, but the performance of the Discover two is amazing. I may end up waiting to see the upgrades on the level three. When they come. Lol - thank you for your great review.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching! I feel the Level 3 is going to be big in the upgrades.

  • @6biwu
    @6biwu 8 місяців тому +1

    The bike shop I bought my bike from had Aventon and Velotric among other choices. I was unsure, but somehow the Velotric seemed better. So I bought it. This video shows that my suspicions were confirmed.

  • @palmerfralick
    @palmerfralick 9 місяців тому +1

    Since we have real hills in North Atlanta that hill race with throttle only is the absolute deal killer for the Aventon. Thru axel is also another point for Velotric is you ever need to update the forks on a 27.5 wheel.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      I bet real hills would kill them both throttle only.

  • @TravelingThruLife
    @TravelingThruLife 9 місяців тому +2

    This definitely helped me decide on the Velotric

  • @jmot05
    @jmot05 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the video! Didn't realize there was a Discover 2

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  Місяць тому

      You’re welcome, glad I could help!

  • @colinfitzgerald4332
    @colinfitzgerald4332 10 місяців тому +3

    Velotric should make a step-over version. Then I would consider it. The Aventon step-over is a beautifully finished bike.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      I love a good step over.

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 9 місяців тому +3

      Once you go step thru, u dont go back.

    • @k.interneto272
      @k.interneto272 9 місяців тому

      Please explain more. I'm torn between SO and ST. Is there any advantage to a ST? SO looks cooler to me.
      Is the frame strength between the two an issue? I have good hip mobility so I think swinging my leg over shouldn't be a problem. I don't have any image issues with a SO being for males and ST for females. I consider that old thinking. Can anyone weigh in on pros/cons ?

    • @colinfitzgerald4332
      @colinfitzgerald4332 9 місяців тому

      @@k.interneto272 I’ve heard that those who have step-through won’t go back to SO bikes. I like to trail ride so the added strength of a SO suits me. Although, street riding and tame dirt trails should be no problem with a ST. The top bar seems to help maneuvering through tide trail corners by using leg pressure on it. Either way, these bikes a great fun.

    • @alextrunzo7586
      @alextrunzo7586 8 місяців тому

      @@k.interneto272 ST provides a sturdier frame and puts less pressure on the low point of the 'V' shape in a SO.

  • @jbirzer
    @jbirzer 9 місяців тому

    I have a Discover 1 for my wife and she really enjoys it. The main selling point is the higher weight capacity and the UL certified battery. They did have a step-over for the Discover 1, but I'm guessing it didn't sell as well. Given it is built like a tank, you probably don't need it. I like the improvements they made to the Discover 2.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for commenting! The D1 is still a great bike.

  • @ronaldmmiller
    @ronaldmmiller 6 місяців тому +3

    Curiosity got the best of me. The wife and I went to our local bike shop this past Saturday and test rode the Discover 2… wow! Long story short two Discover 2’s are on their way! Not that I don’t love your videos but… I called Velotric after getting my order together online. I just bluntly but nicely asked for a discount code, and it was granted. A total of $180 off! The accessories are already discounted 30% if you buy 3 so we outfitted ourselves with brand new gear. Two Discover 2’s, two suspension seat posts, new phone holders, mirrors, water cages and bottles, expandable panniers , shipped …. $4200. The only thing we didn’t replace were our helmets and seats. 😂

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  6 місяців тому +2

      I have not reviewed a nicer commuter ebike than the Discover 2. You made a good choice! The seats on the Discover 2 is excellent, you wont need to switch it out and it sounds like you will be all set!

    • @michaeldemaio3601
      @michaeldemaio3601 3 місяці тому

      I just bought a Discover 2. I loved the additional features. The turn signals, 28mph throttle speed and i really like the MIK rack. The upright position is very comfortable as well. The IPX rating is a really good thing. I got it for $1700, including a really nice suspension post. I couldn't be more pleased.

  • @AdamasOldblade
    @AdamasOldblade 10 місяців тому +1

    I've commented many times that I had a horrible horrible experience with Velotric with my Discover 1 that has turned me off to them forever. This being said the actual Discover 2 bike IS a great bike, but I couldn't possibly leave my Level.2 for it. I am nearing 2,500 miles on my Level.2 since May of 2023 and it has shown absolutely zero signs of wearing out, whereas my original Discover 1 failed entirely after 6 months.
    I am happy Velotric is making upgrades, but honestly I feel like a lot of these are just, "catching up" to other brands, specifically Aventon. I have no clue if the Level.3 is slated for this year, but I am really excited for a Level.3 model rather than to switch brands.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому

      I would love to see a Level 3. With this new motor they designed for the Ramblas, I am hoping they add it to the Level.

    • @palmerfralick
      @palmerfralick 9 місяців тому

      Did Velotric have the 2 year warranty at the time of your purchase of the Discover 1? were your problems not covered? I have not seen your original post. sounds painful though.

    • @SchoolforHackers
      @SchoolforHackers 7 місяців тому

      What was your experience? I’ve seen some very unhappy Velotric customers online.

  • @johnlloyd7736
    @johnlloyd7736 Місяць тому

    For me, the Velotric has several advantages: accommodates taller riders, more upright riding position, more powerful motor with more torque, rear rack holds more weight and accepts MIK accessories. I also don’t like the Aventon’s taillight design. If you put panniers on the rear rack the taillights on the seatstays may not be visible (though the fender taillight will be).

  • @AventonBikesVideos
    @AventonBikesVideos 10 місяців тому +8

    We say the Level.2 😉

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      As you should!

    • @rayrussell6258
      @rayrussell6258 9 місяців тому +1

      I have an Aventure2, and am looking to add a 2nd bike that's better for me on pavement. With fat tires' rolling resistance, I'm unable to ride it even on flat roads without some pedal assistance. That consumes battery range, even though I do like the softer ride with wide tires.
      I hope you have an update planned soon on the Level2, and keep the price the same.

  • @rafaelcontreras3881
    @rafaelcontreras3881 2 місяці тому

    Currently my top two choices.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  2 місяці тому

      I hope this helped you figure out which one you want.

  • @hfjeff2736
    @hfjeff2736 8 місяців тому

    Scott, the VanPowers UrbanGlide Pro really needs to be added to this comparison. It is a serious contender and great quality bike.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому

      I never reviewed the Pro. They sent me the standard version and it was standard at best.

  • @JacobFramework
    @JacobFramework 7 місяців тому +1

    Something to note with the Level 2 is that it now comes in Clay (dark blue) and Shale (dark grey) as well

  • @scotthardesty
    @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +2

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    Velotric Discover 2: velotricebike.pxf.io/nLdLY7
    Save $60 with discount code: scottd2v4cp60

  • @mikemay7134
    @mikemay7134 10 місяців тому +1

    Another great comparison video

  • @mizatt
    @mizatt 10 місяців тому

    Part of the reason I bought a Level 2 is that it has the mounting holes for a Topeak rack, and it looks like it has them on both the step-over and step-through. The Velotric doesn't appear to have them at all and it looks like its rack mounts to the fender. It looks awesome otherwise but that would make it a no-go for me.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      I totally understand. Although, there is a Topeak adapter that can connect to any rack.

    • @mizatt
      @mizatt 10 місяців тому

      @@scotthardesty Probably would have gotten something like that if I was shopping new, but I already had the rack on my old bike and it was so easy to just swap it over. Plus it's the rack for the baby seat, so I'm not sure if it even works with the adapter

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      @@mizatt Ah, I understand.

  • @larryjudd7586
    @larryjudd7586 8 місяців тому

    Very good comparison. I actually own one of each. Love them both!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому +1

      Right?! They each have something about them to where I feel there is no winner or loser when it comes to either of these bikes.

  • @jeffreyhalopoff5113
    @jeffreyhalopoff5113 10 місяців тому +4

    I originally bought a Discover 1 last year before the torque sensor was introduced by Aventon. Thinking I may want to trade up in the future, I test rode both the level 2 and the adventure 2 recently. The Aventon dealer wanted to charge an additional $200 over retail for assembling the Bike. My Velotric dealer sells for the same price as the website. After watching reviews of the Discover 2, I will hands down go Velotric over Aventon. Dealer location and customer service in this case wins out.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +3

      You are lucky to have an Aventon and Velotric dealership near you.

    • @cynic256
      @cynic256 10 місяців тому +1

      Trust me, as someone who owns 2 velotric and 2 aventon, aventon is not a 'step up'

  • @ShredaSpud
    @ShredaSpud 15 днів тому +1

    The more aggresive posture of the Aventon Level.2 is what attracts me to it. Plus the longevity of the brand Aventon brings more trust. This is what pulls me away from bikes like the Velotric Discover 2 and the Ride 1up Lmt'd V2. Those last two bikes/brands could be gone in 2 months, who knows. Riding posture (and range) are *HUGE* when riding long distances in cities like Omaha where I live which is rife with steeper hills compared to places where e-bikes are often tested on YT (many times tested in bland Chicago suburbs and easy going hill-less cities somewhere in random Ohio or flat east coast states that sell hot dogs). And I mean hill-less in the sense they have no hills that are honest and sincere... I want to pedal to help the bike and I want it to help me pedal and not make my ace sore like upright commuter ebikes. The only honest hill test I see is in a particular channel that runs up "hellhole" trail in St George, Utah. That's nice, but not reflective enough of real hilly cities. How about testing in SF for example?

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  14 днів тому

      Sorry man. I LIVE in Chicago. That would be ridiculous for me take these bikes to SF for example. hahahaha. I have an idea. You should do reviews and then you can do a real hill test while I go eat a Chicago hotdog (which are amazing btw). FYI, I live in the city and not a suburb, but hey! Thanks for watching! We all have the right to our opinion... but I'm serious, if you have some hills, maybe you should review some ebikes. I can only work with what I have.

  • @rayrussell6258
    @rayrussell6258 9 місяців тому +3

    The buttressing on the Aventon lower frame looks much sturdier on their step-through than on Velotric. Makes me wonder if Aventon is under-stating its capacity. I do know first-hand their weld quality is 2nd to none in the industry. I'm also surprised the Aventon large frame doesn't accommodate riders as tall as Velotec does (I'm 6'5"), but maybe the seat post length on Aventon is limited by the frame buttressing.
    Although I have an Aventone Aventure2, and give it 100% positive rating in my experience after one-year of ownership, the Velotric is moving my needle more in this segment comparison. Better color choices on Velotic, better rear turn signals on Velotric (another surprise since my Aventure2 has great rear turn signals). Higher speed with throttle on Velotric, and a higher rated rear hub motor with 75 nm. I think I prefer the tires on Aventon, since I already have a fat tire bike and I want to try something with a bit less rolling resistence, and the Aventon tire showed better braking. Seat on Velotric looks to be more padded. Price of both brands is the same.
    This is a hard choice to make, as things stand right now. I have a very good relationship with the bike shop where I bought the Aventon. I wonder if Aventon plans an upgrade soon. 🤔
    I have to think they would narrow the gaps in this review, or even pull ahead.
    (why does the close-up image comparison of tires @4:10 look narrower for the Velotric, Scott? I expected them to be a hair wider from the tire specs in your graphics. The Aventon is the one with quick-release wheel, right? Are my eyes at fault on tire width? It must be an optical illusion.)
    Sorry about the long post, I was trying to keep things straight in my head while watching the video.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому +2

      One tire is slightly wider than the other tire but they are the same tread. Plus, I think I might have been closer to one that the other. Yes, the quick release is on the Aventon.
      I understand the hard choice here. At the end of the video, even I don't know which one I would choose. I am just glad I have them both.
      I wish you luck on your decision.

  • @Mike-yu4oh
    @Mike-yu4oh 6 місяців тому

    This would be a no-brainer for me if the discovery 2 had a step over version. I know e-bike companies are trying to erase the stigma of step through bikes being girl bikes, but the stigma is still there. Step throughs seem to sell more, but they should definitely keep the high step options. Great review

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  6 місяців тому

      I understand the stigma as well. I have to say, step thru's definitely make it easier to get on and off, and for many, that is what is needed.

    • @forgetyourlife
      @forgetyourlife 5 місяців тому +1

      Only known as “girls bike” here in the USA. The rest of the world has called them step through for 50 years.

    • @LordJesusEvangelism3158
      @LordJesusEvangelism3158 5 місяців тому

      @@forgetyourlife Exactly! As a man i would much rather a step through because it makes it easier to stand during stops. It makes it easier to get on and off the bike.

    • @mreverly
      @mreverly Місяць тому

      Imagine an angle of a bar controls who you are sexually. Truly sad.

  • @MartinDee2000
    @MartinDee2000 День тому

    The Discover 2 has both Torque and Cadence (according to their site and other reviews)

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  День тому

      Yes. It has that ability now. It did not have that option when I did this comparison.

  • @Andredac111
    @Andredac111 10 місяців тому

    I really wish you would’ve added the Ride1up L’td V2 to this comparison. That’s the bike I’m leaning to.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому

      Sorry. I don't have that bike and I have never reviewed it. So I can't talk about something I haven't tested.

  • @Digitalmedia4less
    @Digitalmedia4less 4 місяці тому +1

    Velotric Discover 2 is totally awesome with way more features.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, especially after this newest update where it can bounce between cadence and torque sensors.

  • @spodowitz
    @spodowitz 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video! I haven’t had a chance to test ride either of these yet. How do you feel about the different handle bar positions? I typically like the straight across bars rather than the swept back cruiser style, but everything I’m seeing about the discover 2 aside from the handle bars makes me think that it’s the bike for me. I’m just wondering about those bars. Would love your thoughts.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +2

      I don't really notice the angle of bars. They both ride different. You could always get straighter bars pretty easily if you didn't like those.

    • @E-Eightyfive
      @E-Eightyfive 10 місяців тому +2

      Yep change the bar of choice, easy fix

  • @stangrubman8257
    @stangrubman8257 7 місяців тому +1

    What has been everyone's experience with distance? I watched Scott's comparison between the Discover 2 and the Level 2 which indicated (at 6:15 of the review) that both achieved about 30 miles over about 2 hours at about 13 MPH. I was surprised at how low those numbers were since both manufacturers indicate double those amounts. I understand the advertised distance is like advertised MPG for a car so I am interested in everyone's updated real world experience. Thanks

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  7 місяців тому +2

      The reasons my numbers are so low is because I push them hard during my reviews. Hill climbing with them, brake tests at top speed, sand test. All of this affect the battery and the distance it can do. If you were to ride it normally, these bikes would go much farther.

    • @stangrubman8257
      @stangrubman8257 7 місяців тому +1

      @@scotthardesty Hi Scott -Thanks for the additional information. GREAT video on the comparison between the bikes.

  • @imthatguy7394
    @imthatguy7394 5 місяців тому

    Everyone make sure to look up your local laws on e-bikes. the fact these have throttles classifies them as class 2 vehicles which are sometimes illegal to ride on trails.

  • @bigrod997
    @bigrod997 10 місяців тому +1

    Velotric for the win!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому

      You really can't lose with either one of these bikes. What was it that had you vote for the D2

    • @bigrod997
      @bigrod997 10 місяців тому +1

      @@scotthardesty cruise control

  • @SarahJane-y1p
    @SarahJane-y1p 8 місяців тому

    Scott, do you plan to attend The Electrify Expo in Long Beach on June 1 and 2???
    E-Cells E-bikes and Owner David Cleveland will be there in Booth 806. A chance to meet David, ask questions, and Test Ride E-Cells full line of E-bikes.
    Have Fun at The Expo!!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому

      I do not plan on going to the Expo. Due to Chicago weather (seems rain every other day), I have a backlog of bikes in my storage unit that I need to review. That's enough to keep me busy for awhile. I have heard good things about E-Cells and I hope one day to get to review them.

  • @Tinman710
    @Tinman710 10 місяців тому +9

    I’m an Aventon Level 1 owner but Velotric is actually killing it with this new model.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      They really are. I was pleasantly surprised! Luckily, my wife snagged my Discover 2 so I will be riding the Level 2. I am happy either way.

    • @Tinman710
      @Tinman710 8 місяців тому +1

      @@scotthardesty you’re funny dude lol gotta love your honest opinions.

    • @mattgreven7615
      @mattgreven7615 6 місяців тому +1

      @@scotthardesty a few months later-which do you prefer?

  • @mattgreven7615
    @mattgreven7615 9 місяців тому +1

    When you did your range test--were you pedaling or strictly throttle? With their batteries being nearly identical, it seems like the velotric would pay a penalty with the bigger motor.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      I was pedaling. There is something about how their torque sensor and motor is setup which works really well giving it good distance compared with other models.

    • @edwardragsdale1730
      @edwardragsdale1730 8 місяців тому

      Great Video Scott, very informative. Quick question? When you did the Range / Mileage test, were you in ECO Mode ? and what Pedal assist were you in? Velotric claims range of 75-mile. What am I missing? I see you averaged just 12mph. Thanks and keep up the good work !!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому

      @@edwardragsdale1730 I think in the review video on that bike I talk about the modes I was traveling in. I review a lot of bikes so I don't remember exactly. Maybe my Discover 2 review will tell you. I am normally riding in a mode that is comfortable for me and will vary during the review. None of the bikes that I have tested have gotten even close to the stated mileage. Those claimed miles are done with a 160lb rider, on flat land, no wind, and in the lowest PAS available. At 225lbs, plus camera equipment, hills, wind, and top speed, I am lucky to get 1/2 that mileage.
      The only bike that has even came CLOSE to the mileage stated was the Aventon Ramblas. They claimed 60 miles in Trail mode and I got 51. I do believe it would hit the 60 miles but it was extremely windy and I put about 12-15 miles on it in Turbo mode.

    • @stangrubman8257
      @stangrubman8257 7 місяців тому

      Can anyone update this information? I really need more than the 30 miles
      Scott achieved in his test. Unfortunately, Scott's review does not state the mode or power level he was using.

    • @mattgreven7615
      @mattgreven7615 7 місяців тому +1

      @@stangrubman8257 I have the level 2. I’m a big guy, and after a 28-mile ride (minimal throttle-only, pedal assist on lowest level) I had 68% batt remaining.

  • @rafaelcontreras3881
    @rafaelcontreras3881 2 місяці тому

    Great Comparison!!!

  • @mr_urban.
    @mr_urban. 9 місяців тому

    I would be interested in seeing how the Lectric Xpress compares to these 2 bikes.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому +1

      Lectric would have to send me one for me to compare.

  • @henrybutchy3242
    @henrybutchy3242 5 місяців тому

    Im 6'2". Test drove both. The Aventon Level 2 is not a good fit for 6'2".
    So, Discover 2, Aima Santa Monica, or Ride1up Prodigy V2 with middrive.

  • @johnsteiner1488
    @johnsteiner1488 7 місяців тому

    I'm sorry, I meant how many months or years the battery should last.
    Thanks

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  7 місяців тому

      Batteries last about 1,000 charges. They will last YEARS.

  • @ForbinColossus
    @ForbinColossus 10 місяців тому

    Scott, would you use the Aventure.2 for commuting or is the Level 2 the way to go? (thank you!)

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      I've got what you are looking for. ua-cam.com/video/UEPd_Kq0nWQ/v-deo.htmlsi=yivQPOq0LuQniH0y

    • @ForbinColossus
      @ForbinColossus 10 місяців тому

      @@scotthardesty Thanks much! I watched

  • @danmiller5297
    @danmiller5297 10 місяців тому

    Great review, if you click on the velotric link you get an error message, link malformed?

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      They sent me a bad link. Thanks for letting me know! I fixed it. velotricebike.pxf.io/nLQPRX

  • @kennethdavis5077
    @kennethdavis5077 8 місяців тому

    Which one has the best inferstructure for repairs and parts .

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому

      Aventon has more authorized repair facilities than Velotric. I have been fortunate to have a local bike shop that works on all the bikes I review.

  • @wulfhollow
    @wulfhollow 8 місяців тому

    Damn... I was stuck on getting the Level²
    .. Now, obviously, I need to get the Discover2..
    Kinda sucks because the Level² includes a free 2nd battery. & I liked the Level's blue color more than the Discover's mint color..

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому

      You will enjoy the Level 2 as well!

  • @scidhumouse1007
    @scidhumouse1007 6 місяців тому

    Why don't you compare the level two with the Mokwheel Asphalt? So many have reviewed the asphalt with surprising results! It looks and performs as well if not better than these two bikes.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  6 місяців тому

      I have not received a Mokwheel Asphalt yet. So I can't do a comparison video on a bike I haven't reviewed. I highly doubt it has all the features the Discover 2 does.

    • @scidhumouse1007
      @scidhumouse1007 5 місяців тому

      @@scotthardesty There are many review sites that show how much better the Mocwheel performs against the Discover 1 and 2. I won't mention those sites unless you want me to. All who have reviewed the Asphalt had nothing but praise and surprise as to how well it performed. I won't touch the Discover 2 or Level 2. Over rate and over priced. By NO WAY am I saying they're bad bikes! Just that they don't live up to their hype. I'm not pushing the Asphalt as the one and all bike. I'm just saying that I've done a lot of homework on this bike and by all means I've yet to see a bad review on it as well as its performance vs these two bikes. Price is less too, but I'm not looking for a low priced bike. I'm looking for a bike that can climb hills and doesn't have front shock absorber problems like the level 2 and a problem climbing hills with a 750watt motor like the Discover 2 does. The asphalt has a 500watt motor and everyone who reviews it is shocked by how easy it tackles hills.
      Please get a hold of the Asphalt and let us know what you think of it. Not being a troll. Just very passionate about bikes that are underrated because they're not recognized brands. Again, I'll furnish the sites that are well known sites if you need proof of what I'm saying. Love your review of these bikes. You do a great job of unveiling the nuts and bolts of these ebikes. Much appreciated! Keep up the great work!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  5 місяців тому +1

      @@scidhumouse1007 I am familiar with MOKWHEEL. The Scoria was my #1 utility ebike for quite a while. I also just reviewed the Mokwheel Slate and its a very good bike as well. I appreciate the passion you have and I totally understand it. I am also passionate about bikes as well. I will reach out to Mokwheel to see if they will send the Asphalt to review. I don't need to see other reviews on the bike as I feel I have a very thorough way of testing out these bikes and like to make my own opinion. If it's better than these two, I will have no issues saying so. Thanks for your input!

  • @edwardkosanke244
    @edwardkosanke244 3 місяці тому

    what is code for discount for velotric discover 2

  • @richarddkearney
    @richarddkearney 10 місяців тому

    Are you able to do something that will talk about customer support? I like Aventon's customer support but I know nothing about Velotric's.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +1

      I have had a couple of dealings with Aventon's and Velotric's tech support. I have been fortunate to not have any issues with either one of them.

    • @cgatito3528
      @cgatito3528 9 місяців тому +2

      I have two Velotric Nomads and had an issue with one of the controllers. Customer service was phenomenal. Extremely responsive.

  • @orlandogomez2627
    @orlandogomez2627 9 місяців тому

    Yes I am interested in the Discover 2 but I live in Germany. I'm American yes The computer if possible English and German language. Is that possible? And how much does it cost?

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      You would need to contact Velotric directly.

  • @johnsteiner1488
    @johnsteiner1488 7 місяців тому

    How long will the battery last

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  7 місяців тому

      I'm pretty sure I say how far I rode on each battery. If not, look at the full review of the bike you are wondering about.

  • @davidintexas783
    @davidintexas783 8 місяців тому +1

    Velotric wins!

  • @ejej6934
    @ejej6934 9 місяців тому

    I know I'm going to kick myself when Aventon finally comes out with a Level 3 that has 750 W and turn signals, but with the Discover 2 on back order and the nearest Velotric dealer more than 35 miles from me, I'm going to get an Aventon Level 2. My local bike shop has them in stock and they service what they sell. Haha, buyer's remorse in advance....

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      hahaha. You can't lose with either of these bikes.

  • @wkw4095
    @wkw4095 10 місяців тому +2

    Now try it with Dan on the A2. Dan looks to be 75 lbs lighter. ;)

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому +2

      I didn't think of that! He is! But Dan has neck issues so the riding stance on the Level 2 affects how he feels after riding. Since the D2 has that adjustable stem, I was able to get him into the position that best suits him for riding. I do like where your head is at and I think I might make him switch for a hot minute on the next comparison video.

  • @Lori-yo1yd
    @Lori-yo1yd 7 місяців тому

    I have a level 2 aventon..very good e bike...I wish it came with a horn...

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  7 місяців тому

      I ended up upgrading the bell on mine to this. amzn.to/3XI6sQT

  • @DM-fp8uw
    @DM-fp8uw 8 місяців тому +1

    Level 2 comes with a free second battery. If that’s something you want, saves $500

  • @LangkingEnterprise
    @LangkingEnterprise 2 місяці тому

    I wish I can get them in Malaysia

  • @vipinnair1991
    @vipinnair1991 5 місяців тому

    If the level 2 had a 750 watt motor, it would've been the perfect commuter bike.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  5 місяців тому

      I feel like they are going to do that with the Level3

  • @jcolt84
    @jcolt84 9 місяців тому +1

    There are bikes out there right now that will give you more than 2400w, with a top speed of 40+mph, and for only $2,000, so I'm not sure why anybody would buy anything else! The bigger the brand, the more unlikely they are to offer you the kind of power that I mentioned above, but doing so really makes a companies offering stand out amongst the competition!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for the input.

    • @Mj17867
      @Mj17867 9 місяців тому

      Do they look like mopeds or bikes? Any names you can mention?

    • @jcolt84
      @jcolt84 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Mj17867 both, the Wired freedom and e-cells new five star

    • @Mj17867
      @Mj17867 9 місяців тому

      Thanks

    • @6biwu
      @6biwu 8 місяців тому +1

      I think that if you go over 750 W it’s not really considered an eBike anymore

  • @raginroadrunner
    @raginroadrunner 5 місяців тому

    I bought the Velotric. Bad idea.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  5 місяців тому

      How so? I know a lot of people that love their Velotric.

  • @honestnewsnet
    @honestnewsnet 9 місяців тому

    Discover 2 is to heavy and will be a drain on the battery. Not to mention the 750 w motor. They should have provided a bigger battery for Discover 2

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому +1

      All e-bikes are heavy and drain the battery. Although you are correct about having a bigger battery, that would only make it heavier.

    • @honestnewsnet
      @honestnewsnet 9 місяців тому

      @@scotthardesty My ebike weighs only 50 lbs and 62 lbs with battery. I have got ebike going 30 mph on a flat parking lot. Very light and agile. See they put the weight in the battery not the bike. Very smart move. Now our light bike goes much further due to a larger battery. Also has torque sensor. By the way it was about $300.00 less.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      @@honestnewsnet Sounds like you found the bike for you, which is awesome! I love it when people buy a bike that the are happy with.

  • @skeller61
    @skeller61 8 місяців тому

    One of the local bike shops near me sells Velotric, and has a large red Discover 2 coming in on Wednesday, so that’s what I’m getting.
    The two shops (of three in town) won’t do much work to e-bikes you buy online, which doesn’t bode well for Aventon or Rad Power service here. The one that sells Velotric said they used sell Aventon, but stopped when they noticed quality control issues. It’s hard to know what to believe, since the numbers of e-bikes here are very low.
    I was able to get on the D2 and think I’ll really like it. I was seriously considering an Aventon Aventure.2 because they are now $200 off and are giving a free second battery, but if I can’t get it worked on, what’s the point?

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому

      Getting these bikes serviced is definitely something to consider when getting an ebike. I would go with the D2 since you can get it serviced.

  • @srobeck77
    @srobeck77 9 місяців тому

    Not having a belt is a deal breaker for me because Im not a sadist that enjoys cleaning greasy bike chains. But id go with the Discover over the Level because of the bigger motor and handle bars.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому

      I haven't reviewed a belt drive yet but I am sure I will someday.

    • @palmerfralick
      @palmerfralick 9 місяців тому

      what kind of grease do you put on your chain?

    • @forgetyourlife
      @forgetyourlife 5 місяців тому

      @@palmerfralick sounds like 10-40 motor oil has been their choice 😂

    • @d62347
      @d62347 5 місяців тому

      Cleaning a chain is about as hard as flossing

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 5 місяців тому

      @@d62347 ya when u do a halfassed version of cleaning and lubing it up, lol.

  • @omarguerra1838
    @omarguerra1838 10 місяців тому +1

    Holy moly I never heard of that velotric bike I feel dumb now, I got the adventure 2 but now I see that the velotric is basically aventure 2 stats for cheaper and skinny tires I kinda feel dumb on my purchase now

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому

      I love my Aventure 2! They have a version of the Aventure called the Nomad. I believe their Nomad 2 will be coming out in the next few months. The Aventure 2 is my all time favorite fat tire bike.

    • @barbaraleach6116
      @barbaraleach6116 9 місяців тому

      Don't feel dumb. It just barely came out. Of course you would not know about it.

  • @jewymchoser
    @jewymchoser 8 місяців тому +1

    Aventon is prettier. I won't lie, it might be enough to sway me.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому +1

      Sometimes, that's all it takes.

    • @ChrisLindsay-y9f
      @ChrisLindsay-y9f 7 місяців тому

      I'd researched the daylights out of e-bikes and Velotric didn't even show up anywhere, settled on a Aventon Level 2 for the 18 yo granddaughter. Local dealer, she picked the SO in the Blue. I may have more miles on it that she does. The Level 2 works well for me quite well, not having to kill myself on steep grades is a God sent, one heart attack was enough. I'd get one for myself but then I'd need to buy another for #2 granddaughter., then what to do with our Specialized bikes.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  7 місяців тому

      @@ChrisLindsay-y9f Sorry you didn't find this video sooner but the Level 2 is a great bike.

  • @georgeballow7028
    @georgeballow7028 8 місяців тому +2

    Previous Aventon owner here. I will NOT buy another bike that’s limited to 20mph on throttle. On the road, that’s not safe!

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  8 місяців тому

      I understand that it could be an issue. Although, I have not had an issue living here in Chicago. I just pedal if I want to go faster than 20mph.

    • @mreverly
      @mreverly Місяць тому

      wow, how fast do you go on a regular bike if you dont like going 20mph?

    • @georgeballow7028
      @georgeballow7028 Місяць тому

      @@mreverly Sadly, while riding 20 mph on a main road, a landscaper’s truck hit me from behind while passing me because I was going too slowly. Helocopered to the ER and spent a week in ICU. Much better now and luckily Medicare paid almost all of my $100,000 bill. Don’t know but the driver may have had a little more patience had I been going a little faster. My bike riding days are now over.

  • @E-Eightyfive
    @E-Eightyfive 10 місяців тому

    Both really good but dang dats sum fat coin

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  10 місяців тому

      You can't lose with either of them.

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 9 місяців тому

      Those are actually on the lower to middle end pricing for ebikes. Go look at $3000-5,000 Specialized ebikes if u want some morbidly obese fat coins

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому +1

      @@srobeck77 I have a 6k Giant eMTB. Thats the most coin I want to spend on a bike.

  • @ProAverag3
    @ProAverag3 9 місяців тому

    Aventon has fallen behind here.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  9 місяців тому +2

      They always catch up and normally surpass.

    • @tap7750
      @tap7750 7 місяців тому +1

      Although it does accelerate and brake better than the D2!

  • @PumpUptheJam81
    @PumpUptheJam81 5 місяців тому

    My primitive brain can’t get past the “girl bike” look of these bikes. I wish I would grow up and get over it, but I simply like a step over. Also helps with transport and locking options.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  5 місяців тому

      I get it, luckily, I have ridden enough of these and seen many men on them that I have gotten over it.

    • @mreverly
      @mreverly Місяць тому

      Maybe you should question your sexuality more than what angle a piece of metal is.

  • @Bobhurley-cf5xd
    @Bobhurley-cf5xd 4 місяці тому +1

    Velotric customer service is a contracted company and is terrible. They ship parts by the slowest service possible (FedEx Post) and do not give you the option of paying for a reasonable service such as regular FedEx. UPS or USPS. They refuse to let you speak with actual Velotric employees or management. Customer service takes two to three business days to respond to customers after the initial bike sale. I would suggest purchasing a different brand. As a customer, I found Velotric to be very arrogant and a bit dishonest and very disrespectful.

    • @scotthardesty
      @scotthardesty  4 місяці тому

      Sorry to hear the issues you have been having with Velotric support. I have had to replace a couple of things in the past and have not experienced the same result.

    • @Bobhurley-cf5xd
      @Bobhurley-cf5xd 4 місяці тому +1

      @scotthardesty You review and help sell bikes for Velotric. I am just a regular Velotric customer, and I have experienced being treated like crap by Velotric. I would suggest that regular e-bike customers not purchase from Velotric.