Like villicy said you don't bring UA-cam personality cocky-ness to your videos, which I believe we love. It is a nice break from other UA-cam content and their screaming and excited yelling at you. Great video as all ways slightly topped with some memey_ness!
Honestly the point you make at the beginning is so true it hurts. The 75mm version struggles to pen some tanks from the front in an uptier, but has good armour. The 76mm version suffers from its armour being far less reliable while the gun is now utter crap
I now go through M36 and 76mm Jumbo and I agree with you. Jumbo has a lot of armor which doesn't help much, but add weight so it's slow. It's nice that it has stabilizer though, unlike M36.
Just earned yourself a new sub! Found this vid through the subreddit, and I agree with you in regards to how new players approach this tank like they did with the 75mm one. I just unlocked it and I definitely started playing it like I could survive anything, but after this video, I'm going to play it more like the normal 76mm Shermans.
The Jumbo's are my most played tanks. Honestly, the 75mm would be alright at 5.0, but the 76mm, feels like it should be 5.3, you know, like the IS-1, KV-85, or ISU-152. Edit: Also like the Tiger, and the Panther.
If you're just talking about the gun then yes, but there are tanks with great armor but poor guns like the Churchill and, taking everything into account, I think it is better than the tiger so the lowest it'd go for me is 5.7, though the regular sherman brs wouldn't make sense anymore
its lag and latency, you think your barrel is on the tank but its actually a bit behind on the server side, thats why i wait a tiny bit before shooting to make sure my barrel is pointed right
I mean, if I'm going to flank anyways the M4A3E8 (HVSS) (76) at 5.3 is a much better choice, so why take the Jumbo? And, against Tigers the Jumbo really plays like a heavy tank, its frontally a very hard nut to crack, its Panthers where the armor will not save you, and of course that track area. I also played alright with it in the past, and maybe I lostz what I learned there when I went to respade it (Smoke shell), but I really think its far worse now than it was back when I first played it, and heres the reasons: 1) Since the 75mm Jumbo now gets (or at least got recently) spammed everyone knows where to shoot you: track area, MG Port and Shottrap 2) Things like the IS2 and Tiger E moved down, which are IMO clearly superior to the Jumbo, and at least agains an IS2 you dont have a fair chance in a duel, its 200mm pen 122mm round will easily pen your UFP with overmatch mechanics and your turret doesnt have nearly enough armor either to stop it. 3) Things like the IS6 got released, and that one at 7.0, which will see you uptiered to 7.0 every game youre not uptiered to 6.7 anyways already. And while your APCR had at least a chance against the flat turret armor of the tiger II H, the IS6 has angled armor....
Mr.PanzerCat not easily, and the 85 is better at penetrating it actually. At least that's what I experienced. A bit of angling helps against that, as long as you hide your UFP. Also it's hilarious to have T-34/85s flank you and shoot you on your turret :))) It's Panthers you won't defeat.
Samuel Maier the reason you have experienced that is because sherman jumbo players don't angle against t34 85s but do against tigers or on your tiger you always use the lower pen ammo and not the higher pen one
nope and nope. I found the stock ammo on the 88 to be more reliable in termes of penetrationg, so i use that, also I use the A shell in the 85 and that one did perform better against the slope of the Jumbo in all the testing i did. It has better normalization I guess.
I don’t like it when people complain about the Churchill Mk1 it’s kinda like playing a tiger but you don’t have a very good gun . If you play a tiger like you’re invincible and just go head on to people they’ll just pen your front plate, most tanks can pen the front plate of a tiger . So you have to angle the armour and once you do that most people have to try and hit the cupola or get a shot trap . Apply that tactic to the Churchill MK 1 and aim for weak-spots and you’re golden
I realized this too. You have to flank around stuff to get kills with the 76 jumbo, especially in up tiers... but then I realized that if you can’t rely on the armor anyway, then you might as well just replace the 76 jumbo with the M4A3 76. Same gun, but faster and more maneuverable. It’s engine also doesn’t make enough noise heard from the other side of the planet. That’s just me though.
I think Gaijin needs to make up their minds. Either they keep the label of Heavy Tank and downtier it to BR 5.7 where it'll act more or less like an american tiger. OR, they do what you suggest and rename it as a medium (or rather, assault) tank and keep the BR but give it a lower spawn cost.
2 days ago, I've had a last stand with A Jagdpanzer IV/70, Tiger H1, Panther A and a T-34-85, i bounce and eat their shots like breakfast, and my teammates even get shocked how i get a ton of point without even getting a kill. so, at good range, you can rely on Jumbo's Armor, with good angling, it's top-notch.
Awesome gameplay but my question still is the same, is the 76mm Jumbo (6.0) really better than the T25 (5.7) medium tank and also better than the IS2 (5.7) heavy tank?.
I think the 76 Jumbo and the Black Prince should both be lowered in br to become play-ably effective. I love both tanks, but really have not been happy playing them because of their br. They're both just out of their league where they're sitting. Can you take out the Black Prince and do a similar video? Excellent channel, well done!
IS-6 isn't indestructible, as i've demonstrated to quite a few surprised IS-6 drivers with my Pz IV f2 by shooting them in the engine and turret cheeks with APCR........
Its a great tank, you just have to practice with the 75mm first. I could handle my own against Tigers, Panthers, ISs at this point, it just takes practice.
I would have to disagree with you on the BR, it really needs to be at 5.7 because once it gets a full uptier you are basically useless, even if you are side on the side armour on certain tanks is really trolly like the is2, tiger 2 and the is6 you cant even pen from the side.
Way, way, way too high of score for its battle rating! Maybe a 4 or 5. It's a Sherman fighting 7.0 tanks, yikes! This tank is almost useless at 6.0, along with the Black Prince. These two HAVE to be lowered to at least 5.3 to be effective, and with the recent dropping of the H1 to 5.3, the lowering of the br for these two currently unplayable tanks is justifiable. These two tanks are great, but again, almost unplayable, and that isn't great since one is a premium. You have a great channel here Oxy, keep up the great work! Hopefully this needed br change catches on.
This thing and the super Pershing... Are my worst nightmare... I have PTSD becouse this things and when they introduce Volumetric shells i feel like its even harder to hit the MG Port... I killed one at 500mts in the commanders copula with a tiger, now i have the panther Maybe Is less difficult idk
Playing the normal Jumbo now I get upteir every godamn game so I figure I may as well play the 76 because I see 76 jumbos with me in upteir. Then I get out the 76 and get put at an even higher BR
People complains that the Jumbo is useless doesn't have a brain what this video about. It's a Jumbo with a M1A1 76mm Gun and still can pen Tigers with APCR or M79 Solid Shot. Gaijin will implement a Jumbo with an improved M1A2 Gun later on.
"It's no one's fault because the tanks are so similar except for the gun"...uhhhhh...wut?? no, it's definitely your fault if you think it's still going to bounce shots with the same armor, but whole battle ratings apart. If you seriously have that brain capacity, then I'd be surprised if you didn't think the M3 could stand a chance at 6.0
Play it like normal sherman? Wha? So why not play normal sherman at 5.3 BR with better mobility since the armor of the 76 Jumbo is not reliable at all. Tiger H1 is at 5.3 and is faaaaar better then this shit useless tank.
this isnt the best tank, its shit , even if you think you'll be overpowered with the 76 you're gonna die and he jumbo itself it crap beacause of its useless gun its at it cant even pen a tiger and can only pen a pz 4 , gaijin pls fucking dont even.
Very humble and calm commentary with lots of arguments behind the facts and opinions, well done.
Like villicy said you don't bring UA-cam personality cocky-ness to your videos, which I believe we love. It is a nice break from other UA-cam content and their screaming and excited yelling at you. Great video as all ways slightly topped with some memey_ness!
It got put down to 5.7, thank GOD!
And now it’s at 6.0....................FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Now the normal jumbo has the same br as a tiger or a panther and this thing is higher than all and slightly lower than a king tiger or a pershing.
6.3 now!
Very complete video. I like the way you explain the tank and lineup to bring it with. Please keep them coming that way
Honestly the point you make at the beginning is so true it hurts.
The 75mm version struggles to pen some tanks from the front in an uptier, but has good armour.
The 76mm version suffers from its armour being far less reliable while the gun is now utter crap
excellent intro
Love your videos; the intro was great too. I learn so much each time. More please.
I now go through M36 and 76mm Jumbo and I agree with you. Jumbo has a lot of armor which doesn't help much, but add weight so it's slow. It's nice that it has stabilizer though, unlike M36.
Just earned yourself a new sub! Found this vid through the subreddit, and I agree with you in regards to how new players approach this tank like they did with the 75mm one. I just unlocked it and I definitely started playing it like I could survive anything, but after this video, I'm going to play it more like the normal 76mm Shermans.
The Jumbo's are my most played tanks. Honestly, the 75mm would be alright at 5.0, but the 76mm, feels like it should be 5.3, you know, like the IS-1, KV-85, or ISU-152.
Edit: Also like the Tiger, and the Panther.
If you're just talking about the gun then yes, but there are tanks with great armor but poor guns like the Churchill and, taking everything into account, I think it is better than the tiger so the lowest it'd go for me is 5.7, though the regular sherman brs wouldn't make sense anymore
@Ronix97 But tiger is worse
Ronix97 I still like myself :(
@Ronix97 but jumbo has good frontal armor, tiger frontal armor is only 102mm flat
@Ronix97 i know, his gun sucks but just spam apcr meanwhile withstand enemy fire
Best UA-camr for reviews well done
3:40 WTF HAPPENED WITH THAT SHOT!? You aimed in the center but somehow it hit the track 😑
It's weird right!? I was going to comment on it but I completely forgot
gayjew lmao
its lag and latency, you think your barrel is on the tank but its actually a bit behind on the server side, thats why i wait a tiny bit before shooting to make sure my barrel is pointed right
I mean, if I'm going to flank anyways the M4A3E8 (HVSS) (76) at 5.3 is a much better choice, so why take the Jumbo? And, against Tigers the Jumbo really plays like a heavy tank, its frontally a very hard nut to crack, its Panthers where the armor will not save you, and of course that track area.
I also played alright with it in the past, and maybe I lostz what I learned there when I went to respade it (Smoke shell), but I really think its far worse now than it was back when I first played it, and heres the reasons:
1) Since the 75mm Jumbo now gets (or at least got recently) spammed everyone knows where to shoot you: track area, MG Port and Shottrap
2) Things like the IS2 and Tiger E moved down, which are IMO clearly superior to the Jumbo, and at least agains an IS2 you dont have a fair chance in a duel, its 200mm pen 122mm round will easily pen your UFP with overmatch mechanics and your turret doesnt have nearly enough armor either to stop it.
3) Things like the IS6 got released, and that one at 7.0, which will see you uptiered to 7.0 every game youre not uptiered to 6.7 anyways already. And while your APCR had at least a chance against the flat turret armor of the tiger II H, the IS6 has angled armor....
Tigers and t34 85s can easily pen the upper front plate at close range. Tigers can at longer ranges unangled
Mr.PanzerCat not easily, and the 85 is better at penetrating it actually. At least that's what I experienced. A bit of angling helps against that, as long as you hide your UFP.
Also it's hilarious to have T-34/85s flank you and shoot you on your turret :)))
It's Panthers you won't defeat.
Samuel Maier the reason you have experienced that is because sherman jumbo players don't angle against t34 85s but do against tigers or on your tiger you always use the lower pen ammo and not the higher pen one
nope and nope. I found the stock ammo on the 88 to be more reliable in termes of penetrationg, so i use that, also I use the A shell in the 85 and that one did perform better against the slope of the Jumbo in all the testing i did. It has better normalization I guess.
Congrats on 500 subs dude. Also requesting E-100 gameplay if you have it, if not, Pz IV F2?
Thanks a lot! Really happy and surprised it's grown so fast! :) E-100 is coming soon (When I have a game without being bombed!)
I don’t like it when people complain about the Churchill Mk1 it’s kinda like playing a tiger but you don’t have a very good gun . If you play a tiger like you’re invincible and just go head on to people they’ll just pen your front plate, most tanks can pen the front plate of a tiger . So you have to angle the armour and once you do that most people have to try and hit the cupola or get a shot trap . Apply that tactic to the Churchill MK 1 and aim for weak-spots and you’re golden
Unlike the Tiger I the Churchill Mk.1 is as slow as molasses.
Awesome vid. Got a new sub.
I realized this too. You have to flank around stuff to get kills with the 76 jumbo, especially in up tiers... but then I realized that if you can’t rely on the armor anyway, then you might as well just replace the 76 jumbo with the M4A3 76. Same gun, but faster and more maneuverable. It’s engine also doesn’t make enough noise heard from the other side of the planet. That’s just me though.
i loved the intro, and thank you for this vid im only a few games from getting this and this was very helpful
I think Gaijin needs to make up their minds.
Either they keep the label of Heavy Tank and downtier it to BR 5.7 where it'll act more or less like an american tiger.
OR, they do what you suggest and rename it as a medium (or rather, assault) tank and keep the BR but give it a lower spawn cost.
Luv u Tom
Never change
With the new update the 76 Jumbo is amazing. It bullies tigers and panthers to no end and it's glorious!
At 3:40 how did you hit is track and if you did why didn't it get destroyed?
They just never played it in SB in an event where its only oponents are tigers 1 and panther d
Yes the matchmaking is pretty good for it in SB.
The Tiger 1E is BR 5.7. It would only be fair to put the Jumbo at the same BR if it is to keep its Heavy tank status.
2 days ago, I've had a last stand with A Jagdpanzer IV/70, Tiger H1, Panther A and a T-34-85, i bounce and eat their shots like breakfast, and my teammates even get shocked how i get a ton of point without even getting a kill. so, at good range, you can rely on Jumbo's Armor, with good angling, it's top-notch.
Instant like for that intro.
Awesome gameplay but my question still is the same, is the 76mm Jumbo (6.0) really better than the T25 (5.7) medium tank and also better than the IS2 (5.7) heavy tank?.
great video
IS-6 LUL
Noice
I’ve been watching Oxy’s videos for a while now but I still have no ideas what the end review chart means. Can someone explain it to me?
It's a year late, but I died when I saw the names of your line-ups... "get milk soon" lol
I think the 76 Jumbo and the Black Prince should both be lowered in br to become play-ably effective. I love both tanks, but really have not been happy playing them because of their br. They're both just out of their league where they're sitting. Can you take out the Black Prince and do a similar video? Excellent channel, well done!
Great Video
This is my favourite tank in the game
... the fv4202 is at a lower br with a better gun and better armour
The Fv4202 is currently at 6.3- (and could probably be 6.7 imo)
Oxy my bad but that's still the same br as the m41a1 which is nowhere near as good
Better armor? Good look using that so called better armor when you constantly get up BR's.
IS-6 isn't indestructible, as i've demonstrated to quite a few surprised IS-6 drivers with my Pz IV f2 by shooting them in the engine and turret cheeks with APCR........
Its a great tank, you just have to practice with the 75mm first. I could handle my own against Tigers, Panthers, ISs at this point, it just takes practice.
I would have to disagree with you on the BR, it really needs to be at 5.7 because once it gets a full uptier you are basically useless, even if you are side on the side armour on certain tanks is really trolly like the is2, tiger 2 and the is6 you cant even pen from the side.
Oxy try out the vickers mbt if u want to!
Is6 ->7.3
Jumbo76 -> 5.7
IS6 was 7.0 and Jumbo 76 at 6.0
@@Vegeta-ci8xu well jumbo is at 5.7 now for rb anyway
This should be 5.7 AT MOST if treated as a medium tank (i.e. artillery). 5.3 if it's treated as a heavy tank.
i really dont understand the american br, this at 6.0 and the hellcat at 5.7 now, along with the last 76 sherman
Way, way, way too high of score for its battle rating! Maybe a 4 or 5. It's a Sherman fighting 7.0 tanks, yikes! This tank is almost useless at 6.0, along with the Black Prince. These two HAVE to be lowered to at least 5.3 to be effective, and with the recent dropping of the H1 to 5.3, the lowering of the br for these two currently unplayable tanks is justifiable. These two tanks are great, but again, almost unplayable, and that isn't great since one is a premium. You have a great channel here Oxy, keep up the great work! Hopefully this needed br change catches on.
Can you by any chance make the game sounds louder? hard to hear
3:40 !??!?!?!?!
This thing and the super Pershing... Are my worst nightmare... I have PTSD becouse this things and when they introduce Volumetric shells i feel like its even harder to hit the MG Port... I killed one at 500mts in the commanders copula with a tiger, now i have the panther Maybe Is less difficult idk
cries in stock m4a3e2
How tf can a 76 jumbo face an is6? It used to be 7.0 but jumbo is 5.7...makes no sense
DO YOU WANT JUMBO'S TO FACE COLD WAR TANKS?!
Bring the Jumbo 76 back to 5.7 or 5.3. I don't like to face bigger guns like the 88mm L/71 or the Russian 122mm.
Play it again at 5.7 now!
after a year it's back to 6.0.. haha damn gaijin can't make up it's mind..
Playing the normal Jumbo now I get upteir every godamn game so I figure I may as well play the 76 because I see 76 jumbos with me in upteir. Then I get out the 76 and get put at an even higher BR
+1
People complains that the Jumbo is useless doesn't have a brain what this video about.
It's a Jumbo with a M1A1 76mm Gun and still can pen Tigers with APCR or M79 Solid Shot. Gaijin will implement a Jumbo with an improved M1A2 Gun later on.
*thinking.jpg*
well this is kinda out dated now
"It's no one's fault because the tanks are so similar except for the gun"...uhhhhh...wut?? no, it's definitely your fault if you think it's still going to bounce shots with the same armor, but whole battle ratings apart. If you seriously have that brain capacity, then I'd be surprised if you didn't think the M3 could stand a chance at 6.0
Get a pop filter, though
I have one, still working around the settings though!
Play it like normal sherman? Wha? So why not play normal sherman at 5.3 BR with better mobility since the armor of the 76 Jumbo is not reliable at all. Tiger H1 is at 5.3 and is faaaaar better then this shit useless tank.
this isnt the best tank, its shit , even if you think you'll be overpowered with the 76 you're gonna die and he jumbo itself it crap beacause of its useless gun its at it cant even pen a tiger and can only pen a pz 4 , gaijin pls fucking dont even.
Meh_ cookie dude, I'm seeing Tiger's getting penned by this Tank.