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  • The Commanders look to solve their QB conundrum with the second pick in April’s NFL Draft, and there doesn’t seem to be an obvious choice between Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, and JJ McCarthy. Or is there?
    Logan Paulsen and I discuss how beauty is in the eye of the beholder in this class, and how that makes predicting what Washington will do incredibly unpredictable.
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  • @MrDereales
    @MrDereales 2 місяці тому +15

    The way I look at Daniel's age is, you're getting a free agent young QB that became available two years after being drafted for a first round pick. But get this... you get him at the rookie year vs the sign and trade that usually happens. He's played against better competition vs the other guys, and was very successful. Why are we making this a hard decision? He's not RG3 he's JD5, 2 individuals. One actually has the knowledge of the others experience prior to him getting here.

    • @DezzRoPapi
      @DezzRoPapi 2 місяці тому

      I'd care way more about a player's age if they were any position other than QB/K/P

    • @mauricejohnson3798
      @mauricejohnson3798 2 місяці тому +1

      Jayden Daniels

  • @101dumars
    @101dumars 2 місяці тому +15

    As a Michigan fan I’d rather go with Maye or Daniels. I’ve watched JJ a lot and some games he was terrible. Very inconsistent

    • @evanhiggins7298
      @evanhiggins7298 2 місяці тому

      Interesting

    • @terencebarnes7393
      @terencebarnes7393 2 місяці тому

      @@danield8994Yea think he is more athletic Kurt which isn’t bad at all.

  • @intienergia1
    @intienergia1 2 місяці тому +10

    This is a rebuild, it would be a mistake to select the most NFL ready player. I am also very suspicious of players who shoot up after the games are done (i.e., Lance, Wilson) so no McCarthy. Maye is the one.

    • @terencebarnes7393
      @terencebarnes7393 2 місяці тому

      Jayden has been there all along so I wouldn’t compare him to JJ. It’s Maye or Jayden and it’s close to me. Yes Maye has a lot of upside but so does Jayden.
      I like them both honestly, they both are hard working guys who really looking to be the best they can be. Hearing Maye talk I was really impressed knowing what he needs work on, he also been working with Rivers. He can be a more athletic version of him easily.
      Jayden a wildcard truly has he is way above as a passer then any “athletic fast QB” to come out in draft. He very good footwork his mechanics are consistent. He is really good on timing passes and anticipation. All that before you even get his running and playmaking.
      I think we are in good hands whoever it is and I can’t to watch them in burgundy & gold.

  • @jeffdwyer3809
    @jeffdwyer3809 2 місяці тому +12

    The biggest mistake people make with Rodgers and Love sitting for as long as they did is assuming it actually took them 3 years to make the improvements. For all we know, they were ready after 6 months, but got stuck behind HOF QBs.

    • @treflips2158
      @treflips2158 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, speculations like that is not how you run a football team as the GM.

    • @jeffdwyer3809
      @jeffdwyer3809 2 місяці тому

      @@treflips2158 I get that, but I think my main point is that people talk about the “Love plan” as if Love literally couldn’t play for 3 years because that’s how long it took to correct what he needed to. That’s ridiculous. Anyone that needs to not play football for 3 years shouldn’t be in the NFL. There’s a point of diminishing returns there where the only improvement left is going to be found on the field.

    • @bodhisfattva7462
      @bodhisfattva7462 2 місяці тому

      we do know about love...he looked like cheeks the times he hit the field till last year.

  • @user-gm4fo4kk8z
    @user-gm4fo4kk8z 2 місяці тому +5

    We're rebuilding
    Why choose a QB ready lesser pick , then one who has more future longevity, talents, arm strength, mobility also, Maye is the answer.

  • @JonathanSummers-uj9of
    @JonathanSummers-uj9of 2 місяці тому +24

    I usually agree with Logan but this video is frustrating me. He must have said 'day 1 ready' 15 times. Do you think peters cares more about winning 9 games and sneaking into the playoffs with this average roster or building a team to be super bowl contender in the future. Peters is making this pick, not Kliff Kingsbury. I don't know why so much of his scouting emphasis is who is 'plug and play'. Andy Dalton was better than Josh Allen day 1 as a rookie. I wish he'd widen his scope when scouting more on projecting out and go into more detail of that rather than these little tiny footwork issues that a 21 year old can grow out of with coaching.

    • @jeffdwyer3809
      @jeffdwyer3809 2 місяці тому +1

      Amen! Plug and play is way too narrow of a focus for a team literally starting from the ground up. This roster went into the offseason genuinely as one of the worst in the NFL. The team is very likely to be bad just by nature of starting a rookie QB. Chasing 7 wins over 5 because Daniels is more “pro ready” feels like a dog chasing its tail. I actually really like using your rookie QB’s first season to insulate him in the offense much like a Russ or Purdy. Don’t make him the focal point. Don’t pretend he’s the messiah. He’s just a very talented rookie who will have to learn some stuff like they all do. Footwork is so teachable. We all literally just watched Sam Howell come in with this same footwork issue and repair it in his rookie year. Marrying your feet to the concepts requires effort to improve, but it’s far from some Herculean task.

    • @allofit3547
      @allofit3547 2 місяці тому +4

      Maye is overrated and inconsistent…
      Logan is just trying to be nice.

    • @terencebarnes7393
      @terencebarnes7393 2 місяці тому

      I get that you want the guy who has the most talent and upside. The major issue with Maye is the that little footwork are reason he misses layup throws so much. It’s also his mechanics overall throwing ball that also up and down.
      Jayden is very polished and yes he technically more ready, but he still has very good upside that’s close or on the level of Maye at this point.
      I’m fine with Maye or Jayden at this point. I love Maye’s approach to the game seems like football junkie that breathes the game. So do I think he could work out his issues. I don’t really have any issues with Jayden and think plenty worth the pick.
      You want the guy that’s most talented but it would be smart to see if fits. In this case I don’t think matters think both Cliff offensive scheme, does Jayden technically fit it better yes. Drake is still pretty athletic as while.

    • @terencebarnes7393
      @terencebarnes7393 2 місяці тому +1

      @@allofit3547Yea most ex players and especially ex QBs seem to see Maye flaws more than most. You ask the numbers guys or those who simply remember 2022 season for him look past all his issues. The PFF love Maye and have Jayden rank as 20th player. Ex QBs have Jayden as clearly at QB 2.
      JT O’Sullivan ex QB said he throws it in the dirt way too much and makes more trouble for himself in the pocket. You’re banking on him figuring it out which is possible. He has similar issues Josh Allen and figured it out, but also have Darnold who didn’t.

    • @michaeldallen234
      @michaeldallen234 2 місяці тому

      Drake Maye is autistic, can't fix that with coaching

  • @sy12
    @sy12 2 місяці тому +3

    It seems pretty obvious Jayden will be the pick. They signed mariota so they’re telling you what kind of offense they’ll be running. Believing McCarthy has a chance to be picked at 2 is so delusional.

  • @nicknova703
    @nicknova703 2 місяці тому +3

    Maye will be better than Herbert, has more of a gun slinger mentality, fits balls into tighter windows

  • @cwhiteco
    @cwhiteco 2 місяці тому +1

    Last. I think Penix is physically as close to Stroud in this draft. Next to Penix. I like McCarthy. Look I understand his issues. Health and age. But Burrow was drafted around the same age. And has had injuries. No one complains. Keep up the good work Hof.

  • @stevec2665
    @stevec2665 2 місяці тому +1

    Do we know if any or all of them can read defenses? That's where young QB's can really struggle too.

  • @TheMattTrakker
    @TheMattTrakker 2 місяці тому +2

    If LSU's offensive line has breakdowns that explain the sacks, what are your thoughts on UNC & USC's line? You must think Caleb and Drake's sack avoidance is otherworldly...if you're being consistent.

  • @cwhiteco
    @cwhiteco 2 місяці тому +1

    Only two qbs have thrown for over 45000 yards in back to back years. Mahomes and Penix.

    • @JMoore68
      @JMoore68 2 місяці тому +1

      @@danield8994 He's been fine the last 2 years. And just ran a 4.5 40. He's fine.

  • @gregnewman4901
    @gregnewman4901 2 місяці тому +1

    The thing is everyone including myself thinks there guy is the absolute best. My thing is I dont know either QB but JD looks like he has the Michael Jordan mentality.

  • @DezzRoPapi
    @DezzRoPapi 2 місяці тому +1

    I'd agree that the pressure to sack ratio for Jayden is bad but I think it has a lot to do with why that rate was also high for Caleb. They had to make EVERY play possible for their teams to have a chance, where JJ could lean on his run game/OL and his elite defense. It's not a knock on JJ because that's an important stat but I think you have to take account for the fact the LSU offense was boom or bust and Jayden rose to the occasion more often than not.

    • @DezzRoPapi
      @DezzRoPapi 2 місяці тому

      The offense was pretty much "Throw to Malik/Brian or take off, just don't turn the ball over because we don't have a defense that can stop anybody" which makes sense for a QB with his mobility that takes sacks BUT also doesn't turn the ball over often

  • @HurleyJDW0711
    @HurleyJDW0711 2 місяці тому +7

    Drake can b fixed and I think we are crazy not to pick him up!!! Pick the best qb for the future

    • @denniscasely-hayford3245
      @denniscasely-hayford3245 2 місяці тому

      Nobody knows the best quarterback for the future. Picking the right quarterback is not an exact science; it's a crap shoot.

  • @scott811000
    @scott811000 2 місяці тому

    I keep repeating myself but whatever AP, DQ and Josh Harris&Co want to do I'm here for it! H.T.T.R./H.T.T.C.! Let's Fucking Go!!
    My pick is Maye but I really like JD. Great watch and listen to as always Hoffman.

  • @jakedunnegan
    @jakedunnegan 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting note (around all this prognosticating) about why this is a crap shoot: Between BOTH of the entire drafts of '21 and '22 the only QBs left standing (eg. even STARTING on the teams that drafted them) are Trevor Lawrence and Brock Purdy! First QB & player taken in '21 and last *player* taken in '22.
    Do NOT bet the farm on a #2 choice unless you are 1000% sure that guy is going to be ready BY YEAR TWO. (Purdy didnt start until late in his first season. But, he's also exceptionally smart and reads the field.)

  • @peerdesilva2156
    @peerdesilva2156 2 місяці тому +1

    It sounded like who would you pick and then who would you start ? A P said they want 4 QB's going into T camp so my guess is JJ and a late round pick or trade ? Football drama got to love it.

  • @cwhiteco
    @cwhiteco 2 місяці тому +1

    Penix sacked only 11 times all year. In a pass happy offense. I’m just saying. He is getting so overlooked. However since his pro day. He has been moving up. The key. Is will the commanders even bring him in to throw. They only had one scout at his pro day. Because NC and Washington had their pro days on the same day.
    My biggest fear. We take Maye. Giants take Penix at six. Dabol and their GM were in Washington to watch him throw by the away.
    And then we have to be reminded twice a year we missed on Penix. At least McCarthy and Penix win. Penix even won at Indiana.

  • @darrylrousejr5894
    @darrylrousejr5894 2 місяці тому +1

    I think AP, goes with the largest offer for the #2, and we still end up in the top 12 picks, miraculously, Jayden Daniels stll falls to u, and we trade back into 1st for an OT, oh yeah, we come right back in 2nd round for another OT...

  • @cwhiteco
    @cwhiteco 2 місяці тому

    Penix I predict makes a late push. Partic if he throws at Ashburn. Keep in mind Kliff saw Washington put up 52 on them in southern cal. Go listen to what Baldy said about Penix.

  • @edwardcampbell8567
    @edwardcampbell8567 2 місяці тому +1

    Please pick Drake or JJ I don't want the failure of this draft to fall on Jayden let NY or Las Vegas have him I think his talent would be better appreciated at one of those teams maybe even in New England.

  • @jakedunnegan
    @jakedunnegan 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm of the "if you can trade back to 10 or so and pick up more value, like a #1 next year and a late round 1 this year, do it".

    • @kylescott9529
      @kylescott9529 2 місяці тому +2

      Cool concept, but you’d have to settle for Penix or Nix unless you want to give up some of that gained capital to go back and jump the Giants. Because all four of those dudes are gonna be gone by 6.

    • @jakedunnegan
      @jakedunnegan 2 місяці тому

      @@kylescott9529 I think both of those guys are decent. I don't think any of the options from #2 overall onward are going to be getting you to the superbowl in 2-3 years. Possible, but given historical trends, VERY unlikely.

  • @JMoore68
    @JMoore68 2 місяці тому

    As I sit here and listen, I really wonder about some of the scouting here. McCarthy has a better arm than Penix? What? Daneils having a better long ball than Penix? Really? Very much the opposite of what I have heard from everyone else, or what I've seen. I mean, Penix is older, and has some injury concerns. Has some issues with not getting his feet aligned which leads to some inaccuracy with shorter throws. But he has a howister, and a incredibly accurate deep ball.

  • @HarryAcorns
    @HarryAcorns 2 місяці тому

    Draft Maye. Spot start him this season. Let him get to know his teammates. Especially the OL. No pressure on wins and loses. Hand the keys to him year 2. Thats the play if you ask me. Screw winning 4 to 10 games this year. I want 10 yrs of good. Not one boost year this year, all to fall backwards year 2.

  • @user-sp7pf9jc8b
    @user-sp7pf9jc8b 2 місяці тому +2

    What happens if, when Kingsberry leaves for another head coaching job? I hope it's Maye, he can play under any OC and
    he has the body to withstand a 17 game schedule.

    • @aa-ronheritage130
      @aa-ronheritage130 2 місяці тому

      Daniel's can flex, I think, as well

    • @terencebarnes7393
      @terencebarnes7393 2 місяці тому +1

      Think both can this weight think is over blown. Your get hurt no matter how big or small you are. Look at Colts rookie quarterback 6”4 240 separated his shoulder on not even a hard hit.
      I don’t OC stuff matters to much yes Jayden is technically a better fit, but Maye has been in that whole college career. Maye needs fix his accuracy issues right now before we care about system. He misses on way too many easy throws. It’s nice he makes the hard ones but easy ones win games. Jayden can play in any system because he is consistent every throw. People focus on his running so much they miss he actually one of best in the pocket. Most of his runs are in structure.

    • @vantablack9535
      @vantablack9535 2 місяці тому

      Jayden has played more games overall who says he can't withstand 17 Games, Besides more arm strength what does Drake do that the others can't ?

    • @user-sp7pf9jc8b
      @user-sp7pf9jc8b 2 місяці тому

      @@vantablack9535
      Maye has better pocket presence. Maye will do a better job of check downs and going through all of his progressions while Daniels will be too quick to take off running.

  • @cwhiteco
    @cwhiteco 2 місяці тому

    In 2017. All the media talked about were Watson and Trubisky. Got all the pub. Yet the Chiefs focused highly on some guy named Mahomes who was not getting nearly the fan fare. In fact moved up to get him. My point. You never know.

  • @artsolano6762
    @artsolano6762 2 місяці тому +1

    The commanders put themselves in a high pressure situation because they have no Plan B if their pick is a bust. Mariota is not a plan B. Howell might have been and they traded him. I think the Commanders will take two QBs. I don't see a repeat of the RGIII/Kirk Cousins draft as I think they will take a QB late for a project. Its possible they could take Jaydon Daniels and trade up to take Bo Nix but they wont do that.

  • @alanwright7819
    @alanwright7819 2 місяці тому

    One important question I never hear anyone ask is what will we be passing up if we don’t take this guy?
    Regardless of who we pick, the other two are definitely going somewhere and we’ll probably end up playing against him eventually, maybe two or three times a year.
    I’m not going to throw out a choice here because I really don’t think I know enough about any of them, and as of right now, I’m split almost evenly in a three-way tie.

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      We talk about this a lot with Maye actually. Because his upside is so high, it feels scary to pass on him. But that also assumes that whatever career the other two you don’t have draft would’ve been the same career with your team. You have to try and not play that game, because there’s false equivalence

  • @ElectricJoker413
    @ElectricJoker413 2 місяці тому

    Team JJ

  • @gregnewman4901
    @gregnewman4901 2 місяці тому

    JJ looks like he is the other guy that may have that mentality to go with that skill.

  • @3horizonspropertymanagemen701
    @3horizonspropertymanagemen701 2 місяці тому

    Logan looks sick

  • @jessanto3438
    @jessanto3438 2 місяці тому

    I think consistency, toughness, durability, intelligence, mental fortitude, and accuracy are the most important traits in evaluating a Quarterback.

    • @stevec2665
      @stevec2665 2 місяці тому

      Good list, I would include leadership also

    • @jessanto3438
      @jessanto3438 2 місяці тому

      @@stevec2665 forgot that important one.

  • @bodhisfattva7462
    @bodhisfattva7462 2 місяці тому +1

    none of them unless they are there after we trade back...we are not a rookie qb from being even half way decent...we should trade back as we need to stack picks for the next couple years so we can repair the damage of Ron&Co.
    We have used 1 2nd round pick on the oline in 7 years. 8 years ago we used a first on a G who was a probowl G, so of course we let him walk as he was making the jags we been drafting look bad.
    We have no idea how good the bargain bin players we signed will play, we do know they were not worth bargain bin pricing to their old teams. We have the 32nd worst OTs in the league and we let one of them walk so we now have worse OTs than 32nd best...a rookie qb will do jack over shit for us. Get a warchest and take a stab at fixing the oline for the first time in a decade.

  • @alanbalcom9654
    @alanbalcom9654 2 місяці тому

    With all the other teams still needing a QB I think trading back thinking you will get McCarthy would bite us in the butt. As another team might trade up a spot ahead of our new position and take him. Best thing for us to do is Stick and pick. And not McCarthy at 2

  • @evanhiggins7298
    @evanhiggins7298 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel better about McCarthy more. Bc the easy mistakes I don't want Daniels (edit Maye)

    • @Khary-lg4zw
      @Khary-lg4zw 2 місяці тому

      I bet you Daniels win oroy😂

    • @evanhiggins7298
      @evanhiggins7298 2 місяці тому

      @@Khary-lg4zw lol I had a typo. I don't want maye

  • @richardallen4912
    @richardallen4912 2 місяці тому

    I draft potential in the 4th or 7th round but never in the first. I want pick # 2 to be day 1 ready. I'd want his footwork down and his deep ball, and his
    progressions down. A rookie has been playing football since he was twelve years old. Haskins had tons of upside. He had the big arm and all the right equipment but where'd that potential go? Who sees three years ahead anyway? It's hard enough to predict tomorrow. Give me the best player now.

  • @mtc4him201
    @mtc4him201 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if Sonny is in good shape? 😂

  • @reggiereg91
    @reggiereg91 2 місяці тому

    Jayden

  • @Scott-A-Montgomery
    @Scott-A-Montgomery 2 місяці тому

    Chevan Cordiero San Jose St.

  • @analystaus
    @analystaus 2 місяці тому

    At this point entering April, I know and I have in my opinion who I think is the best QB after Caleb Williams is, and it’s Drake Maye. Anyone who puts Jayden and JJ over Maye is rightfully their opinion, but that’s it. Maye is the best QB and has the most arm talent.

    • @analystaus
      @analystaus 2 місяці тому

      If you’re comparing the two then your being lazy with your comparison. Maye is no Wilson. Wilson was a bust from day 1 playing at BYU. The plays and throws he made were off lack of talent. Maye played much better competition. As for Daniels comparing him to CJ stroud is also lazy. Daniel’s still has much to develop. He is a better player as of now but if you have to develop both then Maye is the one with more potential.

    • @vantablack9535
      @vantablack9535 2 місяці тому +1

      @@analystaus Drake is a good QB but nothing says he's better than the others based on anything but opinion and projecting, Stats, Numbers and Awards are based on what someone does on the field no pro day or combine changes what they did on the field

  • @The01231965
    @The01231965 2 місяці тому

    U guys can really beat the hell out of a dead horse.

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому +1

      What do you want us to talk about?

  • @Missin44
    @Missin44 2 місяці тому

    The one that's best fit? The one that will win. Break out your crystal ball.

  • @kylescott9529
    @kylescott9529 2 місяці тому +3

    NGL this video definitely feels like you two arguing for why we as the fanbase should take McCarthy at 2 seriously and why Maye should definitely have the breaks pumped. I dont see that as “bad” just pointing it out.
    Craig, since you kind of alluded to your own feelings as the clip ended, Here’s how I’m gonna feel based on every name Goodell could likely say (assuming we don’t trade) after “With the 2nd pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders select…”
    “…Drake Maye, QB North Carolina”: This will give me the most amount of initial excitement because I think he has the most potential to outduel the rest of the NFC. But I also know this will take the most patience because, as yall said, he has some fundamental issues he needs to get past. He may move quicker though since his offense in college was what Kingsbury has based a lot of his stuff off. But he probably will need to sit most of the year.
    “…Jayden Daniels, Quarterback LSU”: I’ll be excited…but cautiously. Dude did improve every year. And he played in a tough conference. But I’m concerned that the oldest top-end QB in the class is the one that is as high as he is in part due to his wheels. While Logan makes points on the P2S ratio, at the end of the day…most QBs with a bad stat there do not improve it in the NFL and, aside from Burrow, don’t really become very good players. He would be an abberation. He’s also pretty slight; I don’t want Parsons breaking him in half. But he’s a human highlight reel and I think he’s better at reading defenses than…say RG3 was when he came out. He’s the only one probably ready to start day 1 (and at 24 id really rather him start sooner), but I feel like Maye, if he succeeds, would be the better passer.
    “…JJ McCarthy, Quarterback Michigan): I understand yalls point, but color me skeptical. He does all the right things. But I think it’s a pretty big risk to take a QB at #2 that was not the focal point of his offense. I won’t say he was a “game manager”. He was very clutch. But there’s a difference between throwing a 3rd and 6 to ice a game and being down by 16 midway through the 3rd against the cowboys. If he comes here, he’s going to be *the guy*. While Michigan was fantastic at running the ball, I don’t see that as a viable excuse. If McCarthy was viewed as effective as their running game, I feel like they’d pass more than run. It’s not like Harbaugh is all running all the time; he had Luck at Stanford. I’ll be happy. But this would be kinda like when we took Forbes over Gonzales; I’d have to talk myself into it. If we could trade down and get him I’d be down; but we realistically can’t trade back past 6 unless we want to then give back most of what we got to go back up to 4/5.

  • @ayoutubewatcher7009
    @ayoutubewatcher7009 2 місяці тому

    Here's my unprofessional take.
    Maye is not a 1st round pick, sure he has all the traits but way too raw. He's the qb that will get everyone fired.
    I would lean towards Daniels but he's a Ferrari and that will get him split in half in the NFL. He has no control of his speed. I can't have my heart jumping out of my chest Everytime he takes off. I'm not sure that's coachable. He runs like rg3. But that's were the comparisons end between them.
    Imo, JJ will be the best out of all these QBs in 3 years. His deep is eh. But he has a Cannon, so it's not arm strength, which means that can easily be corrected with repetition and coaching. Or Did he just get used to wr's who can't track the ball, and forcing him to put the ball on his guy.

  • @NuttinbutdaBlues
    @NuttinbutdaBlues 2 місяці тому

    No on McCarthy. He played on a juggernaut, and watching the Terps give him a hard time with much lesser talent than he'll face in the NFL is enough to not even consider him. Maye has an extremely long wind up, and is slower making reads than JD. Daniels footwork, decision making, accuracy and overall speed make him the best choice. We'll find out in about a month what Peters thinks.

  • @65TossTrap
    @65TossTrap 2 місяці тому +1

    How do you improve Drake Maye’s accuracy issue? Some people say it cannot be “fixed”.

    • @bgorg1
      @bgorg1 2 місяці тому

      I think this is overblown a bit. I’ve seen him make some of the most accurate throws. It seems like it’s inaccuracy on easier throws under pressure when hitting players on the move away. Nnot sure we have seen JD or JJ in the same context.

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      You’ve gotta fix his feet. He’s inconsistent with his base, and how he drops. If he can clean up his feet, the rest of it will follow.

  • @kevinrobinson8442
    @kevinrobinson8442 2 місяці тому

    Fuck that Maye fits the Best

  • @ccbcco
    @ccbcco 2 місяці тому +3

    Which? NONE! Round one QB's are statistically only a 30% shot to be decent! None are "day one ready." And even good QB's only play about 14 games/season due to injuries. Round 1 QB's are overrated. TRADE DOWN!
    Other first round positions than QB have a much lower dud rate. Trade down and take say -- Penix/Nix early and some promising development project like Joe Milton later. Better chance of a hit and better for the team overall. So what if we miss an overpriced darling-of-the-press guy who "MIGHT be the second coming?" If the team overall is stronger by trading down - it's still an improvement, and likely a wash overall.

    • @andrewthomas3478
      @andrewthomas3478 2 місяці тому

      This guy wouldn’t have drafted CJ Stroud, Joe Burrow, or Josh Allen. Make it make sense.

    • @ccbcco
      @ccbcco 2 місяці тому

      @@andrewthomas3478 LOL hindsight is 20/20 only 30% of 1st round QB's turn out to be good. Numbers don't lie.

    • @kylescott9529
      @kylescott9529 2 місяці тому

      Regardless of how accurate that statistic is, the success % goes even further down with QBs drafted later. We just tend to ignore that because Mid/late/UDFA QBs have little hype and thus fizzle easier (I.e. they’re “supposed” to fail). While we tend to get scared by highly drafted QBs that fail because they had a ton of hype going in and were “supposed” to succeed.
      Your best shot at a franchise QB is in the first round. Guys that succeed who are mid round (Wilson/Cousins/Prescott) or late round (Brady/Purdy) are so memorable because they are unicorns. We finally have a chance to actually sync franchise QB/HC/and GM all on the same timeline (instead of drafting a QB in HCs third year like Shanahan). We should take it.

    • @jakedunnegan
      @jakedunnegan 2 місяці тому

      Looking over the past 3-4 draft classes, I think 30% is being generous. Just looking at both the 2021 and 2022, the only QBs left standing in the BOTH entire drafts are Trevor Lawrence and Brock Purdy! First QB & player taken in '21 and last player taken in '22.

    • @andrewthomas3478
      @andrewthomas3478 2 місяці тому

      @@ccbcco I get that, but what you’re not highlighting is what happens to the teams that hit…it’s clearly worth the risk. And it’s not always the player. Coaching / system / situation matter and teams that are drafting high rarely offer good ones.

  • @ericdarden1255
    @ericdarden1255 2 місяці тому

    I agree Maye need to sit,mature, and work on somethings... I'm afraid if he fail early, he will reel like Sam did, and that's why they traded Sam unless they are going to draft Drake and don't want 2buddies & former mates on same team.. Will be that guy going into his 4th yr of rookie deal.... JJ.. I think if he get punched in the mouth,he will look & act like a back up...fires determines! He may be similar to Kirk where everything around him have to be perfect... like Kirk, he a good old bag of plan Utz potato chips...need a helluva sandwich & a favorite beverage.. I dont trust him to be more than Danny Jones... JD5, like most, the weigh & him taking hits scares the crap out you, he seem like he can easily be the guy but do we have PTSD from Bobby 3 sticks... My guess is just as good as Adam Peters... I trust me more than him.... When it comes to the first round, my resume is superior based on 20 years of we need to draft him...unfortunately, I'm not in the business... but I know football, and we all know these QBs gotta get put in the right position.... I would take JD5 to start a team , Maye, 3 to 4 yrs from now can lead you to a Superbowl need and JJ to be the best backup we have ever seen... They say dont judge a book by its cover, well! I know a comic book when I see one...

    • @user-gm4fo4kk8z
      @user-gm4fo4kk8z 2 місяці тому

      I'd rather wait 4 years to get to a Super bowl than never with a running mostly QB , JD

  • @derrickbrown7955
    @derrickbrown7955 2 місяці тому +1

    I've finally made my decision and I'm all in on Jayden

  • @kevinrobinson8442
    @kevinrobinson8442 2 місяці тому

    Logan you know Dam Well it’s Maye why you keep shitting on Maye I don’t understand it

  • @patvercher5530
    @patvercher5530 2 місяці тому

    They drafting Maye thats why they traded Sam what other reason to trade sam hes way better than Marcus

  • @Joshlmb21
    @Joshlmb21 2 місяці тому +1

    I like how maye gave his NIL money to his OL. He never wanted the money. JD5 too all his NIL money. It just shows you who’s different as a man already. That simple little thing.

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      You watched too much Draft Day lmao

  • @Khary-lg4zw
    @Khary-lg4zw 2 місяці тому +2

    Jayden will be oroy, watch!

  • @williambontrager2349
    @williambontrager2349 2 місяці тому

    If they are truly that close in QB talent then you take the 4.4 runner as the tie breaker. Even better if that 4.4 guy is the most NFL ready. Seems like an easy choice to me.

  • @aubrey44
    @aubrey44 2 місяці тому +2

    Bro Jayden Daniel’s is going to be the pick, we can focus on haw many starts Marriotta will get before Daniel’s takes over now.

    • @aubrey44
      @aubrey44 2 місяці тому +1

      @@danield8994 And why would you think this? Daniels is clearly the more polished and mechanically sound QB. He has the highest QBR this season competing against the highest level of teams in the NCAA. He’s a dual threat, and he is not careless with the football. Why would AP, Dan Quinn, Josh Harris pass this up for a guy that is NOT mechanically sound and wasn’t able to elevate his teams play against lessor competition and has to sit for at least one year before he could possibly be ready to play?

  • @HarryAcorns
    @HarryAcorns 2 місяці тому

    Drake Maye! Daniels WILL be a bust. Gonna screenshot this comment for i told you so's in 2 years.

  • @aa-ronheritage130
    @aa-ronheritage130 2 місяці тому

    Sorry, guys. RG3 was eletric during his time and was a suprise hit until they couldn't teach him to slide. JD fits right here. Even if kliff leaves, and Johnson takes over, then you still have the foundation laid. Also, remember this franchise has never developed a QB before. This a change of pace for washington so much excitement. I actually dont think they could miss if they tried here. No matter who they choose they have plan. Division about shape a little different this time around.

  • @markesposito44
    @markesposito44 2 місяці тому

    PX Jr is the best QB in the draft. Trade back with Minnesota worst case scenario is you get PX Jr.

  • @etsidan7003
    @etsidan7003 2 місяці тому

    Who we kidding here, it's going to be JD, he fits best with cliff. I'd sooner take Maye & sit him, but they won't, & JJ will be a great QB in the NFL, if he lands in the right place, he's my favourite, but we aren't a good fit. Whoever it is HTTR4life.

  • @denniscasely-hayford3245
    @denniscasely-hayford3245 2 місяці тому

    These two guys have no clue, so folks should not listen to them. They waffle and change their thoughts all the time. Why didn't they watch Mccarthy's tape and all the other quarterbacks for that matter from the first place, then make a proper assessment? They are all over the freaking place, constantly changing their minds based on how the wind is blowing.

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      Hey Dennis, I wouldn’t call what we’re doing waffling with the wind. We’re constantly watching more stuff, taking in more information and have been extremely consistent since the jump that this is a really hard decision. I don’t know how your life has been so easy that you’ve never had to make a hard decision before, but the nature of them is there’s often not a clear answer. The same is true here. We cover the team year round, so at the start of the process we hadn’t watched much college football. As we went back and watched, we’ve continued to keep our viewers informed on what we’re thinking. That’s how this works, and it mirrors what NFL teams do if we’re being honest. So I’m sorry we don’t fit your mold of expert, but to try and discredit us for being honest with the process is some low grade tomfoolery.

    • @denniscasely-hayford3245
      @denniscasely-hayford3245 2 місяці тому

      @@craighoffman You can call my assertion tomfoolery all you want Craig. However, the fact still remains that right, wrong, or indifferent you guys have been all over the place with your assessments. Granted you don't watch a lot of college games because you cover the team year round, the moment you started watching the tapes of these quarterbacks, you guys should have watched all of them in one fell swoop then render an informed opinion.. You guys started with Maye being the guy, then you pivoted to Daniels the moment other folks in the media started hyping him. Suddenly, you guys have started singing the proverbial Mccarthy tune the moment he was being hyped; such that according to you, Mccarthy is now in the same category as Daniels and Maye. Such pivoting and waffling, regardless of the rationale you cited about the process brings your credibility into question. You should listen to yourselves talking; today it is this, the next moment it is that. In point of fact, at the end of the day you guys are no experts; you are not General Managers, or Personnel guys, which is why folks should listen to you with a grain of salt. I certainly will!!

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      We’re honest and transparent with the process. Also, are you available to run my schedule for free? You’re apparently amazing at creating more time in the day than I have. I’d love for you to make another 12 hours a day for me to watch film out of thin air!

    • @denniscasely-hayford3245
      @denniscasely-hayford3245 2 місяці тому

      @@craighoffman My position remains. I will listen, but take your evaluations of these quarterbacks with a grain of salt for the reasons I have stated in my submissions. Too much pivoting for my liking.

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      So you’re the guy who loves that Skip Bayless still thinks LeBron isn’t good at basketball, huh? Was wondering how that guy still had a gig

  • @GeorgesOpinion
    @GeorgesOpinion 2 місяці тому

    I’m loving reading all these Maye lovers cry in the comments😂

  • @brianlove7584
    @brianlove7584 2 місяці тому

    Both of these guys sound like the so called analysts who discredited Lamar’s talents pre draft yet Lamar is an MVP level qb in the NFL. Jayden is a much better passer entering the draft than Lamar and the constant knocks on him by these guys and other Drake lovers is his weight and sack,pressure ratio which can be misleading because a lot of his sacks came from scrambling and running out of bounds short of the line of scrimmage! Why choose a qb who you “hope” can grow into a franchise guy when there’s a guy sitting there who clearly NFL ready? Maye and JJ have a better chance of being Carson W than Aaron R

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      We both love Jayden and would heavily consider picking him. I really don’t know what you think you just listened to lol

    • @brianlove7584
      @brianlove7584 2 місяці тому

      @@craighoffman to be honest I didn’t watch the complete video because it sounded like more of the same from previous videos and your show on Team 980 and you clearly rode the Drake train while still acknowledging the skill set of Daniels which makes no sense to me. A “hope” or “upside” doesn’t translate to wins in the NFL. The concerns about Jayden are legit but minimal at best. We as Washington fans have been waiting for a so called franchise qb for too long although we thought we had that in RGKnee. Jayden gives us the best chance at that especially with a suspect o-line. If AP doesn’t select JD at #2 then he’s not as smart as we all give him credit for.

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      Maybe if you listened to what I said instead of hearing one name and one piece of information you wouldn’t leave comments that make no sense 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @juandixonformvp
      @juandixonformvp 2 місяці тому

      @@craighoffman Doesn't Drew Lock also have high "upside"? There have been a bunch of guys who can chuck the ball who for some reason don't learn how to play the QB position. Also when you're a gunslinger, of course 1 out of 5 balls will look amazing, a broken clock is right twice a day, right?

    • @craighoffman
      @craighoffman  2 місяці тому

      Lock’s “upside” and Maye’s upside are completely different. Everyone has upside. The question is how high is it. I still don’t understand your point. I’m not sure you have one.

  • @andysawyer647
    @andysawyer647 2 місяці тому +1

    Jayden Daniel's and Spencer Rattler are the best processors in this draft. Williams, Penix Jr, and Nix are in the next tier. Maybe McCarthy is in that group, but sometimes I question if he predetermines reads within a pro-style system.