That quote about how the professionalism about movies will be destroyed and then it will become an art form really strikes me. So many crafts have this gatekeep, this stopgap of "well thats not real ____" so to have someone do the exact oppositie is so refreshing and inspiring
Francis Ford Coppola is no stranger to shoestring budget movies. Gis lasg several films hace been super low budget independent movies despite him having 5 Oscars. He's a boss. The Conversation is one of my favorite movies of all time.
I feel this about UA-cam and influencers in general- theres a lot of unhealthy culture among UA-camrs that comes from this being their livelihood, that they have to clickbait and play the algorithm to make a living, but people will always make content even if they're not paid. It will be crap, but they'll make it.
You can edit and license music for very little, the only hard costs are a good sound rig, never underestimate your sound, it’s more important than your image quality, and if you want to shoot at night, or match scenes, a good lighting rig is another potential cost. Don’t forget the backbone of all great movies. Great scripts!! ✍🏻
@@JessieJamesPlays Depends on your scoring needs. Many decent subscription music libraries have cropped up in the past few years with the creator/DIY boom. With a little research you'll find plenty of quality, variety and affordability out there.
@@JessieJamesPlaysIt’s thousands of dollars. Really depends on the song, but most times it’s thousands of dollars. This commenter is honestly speaking out of his ass.
I'm currently on this path. All i've done is stop motion in my free time and released edited roblox footage. I'm gonna make a live action with my buddies this summer to be exact. Wish me luck.
Mostly because they were making movies in their backyard with home video cameras before they were 10. They didn't need film school, they were getting the experience first-hand AND...they knew they wanted to do it for a living from that age. The best musicians do the same thing: Q-Tip, Taylor Swift, Prince, etc. they ALL knew they wanted to be professional musicians before they had pubes.
Passion towards films made them like that….u take any field of you are passionate about it then definetly you can achieve something big one day in that field…..because you love it so you don’t feel it stressed unlike jobs and you do it happily you learn a lot and later going up on you become big
Spielberg went to film school, Scorsese went to film school. Plenty of successful filmmakers went to school for film or something else. Don't talk bad about film school when there's way more people not going to film school and having no success because their shit sucks.
making movies doesnt really have much to do with the person, but who the person knows. thats why you see so many awful movies come out nowadays, because only the elite are allowed any heirarchy in hollywood
Literally none of these guys had that. Scorsese was born to working class immigrant parents, Spielberg has working parents that also got divorced part way through his life, Fincher had to work for years as a PA before writing to get his break. Many other famous directors also did not have any financial help as they climbed up the ladder. Stop whining and do something with your life or take responsibility for why you don't have what they have.
@@logantotman1574 I think Spielberg’s dad, who was a computer pioneer in the early sixties, was a little more than a “working parent.” Same with Christopher Nolan, whose father was an advertising executive. Scorsese went to a private Catholic high school for boys in NYC. They all to some degree were born with golden spoons in their mouths. Not really whining about anything either just pointing out how cock it is to generally say “if you want to make movies like I do, you have a camera on your iphone go make yourself a movie” when the person saying that has had their parents financially support their every single wish tenfold.
I used to wait till dad went to work, grab that giant VCR camcorder and we’d run around blowing s-t up with firecrackers all day. I stopped making movies when i got caught up in all the techno crap. That’s where i went wrong.
It's all about skill. You can have a crappy camera, crapy equipment and the audience can forgive that aslong as the story is good and there is clearly a level of expertise that went into shooting the film. The opposite can also be said. You can have an amazing camera, amazing equipment but the audience wont appreciate that if your story is crappy and your not clearly not experienced. And, when I say experience, I mean in terms of actually shooting the film (cinematography), and editing the film (such as pacing and overall theme building, etc).
Thats why i like directors/videographers. Hey look that teeny tiny 2mpixel camera can make vids, lets goooooo... Photographers: NO! You need 35mm with an 0.01 aperture lens, nothing is good without boke
@Snarkcom *Nah, everything you need you can do it in your phone nowadays, and for the payment of you're actors are committed you can pay them with revenue, even Sodenbergh filmed a movie with an IPhone*
Yeah, but also accept that no one is going to pay you a single penny for that movie after you've killed yourself making it. If you're fully aware of that and still want to make a film then you're meant to be a filmmaker.
Can't the same said about people who went to film school? There is no guarantee that going to film school will make you a great filmmaker. The only thing that matters is your talent, passion and perseverance.
@@guyincognito8440 This guy doesn't "get" anything. He impresses himself by saying buzzy phrases like "survivorship bias" after reading it somewhere. Are these guys survivors? Absolutely. So is everyone in the NBA. You have to SURVIVE to do anything at all. So, yeah, you've got access to all the tools you need, but if you aren't any good (and most people won't be), you will not survive.
Fucking what? Scorsese was born to two working class immigrant parents. Spielberg wasn't too far off as his father's ventures didn't make their family much money until his teenage years and his father didn't support his filmmaking so he never got any money from it. David Fincher worked as a PA for films for a while before slowly working up the latter, not born to rich parents. Coppola I don't know but I know he also did not get opportunities right away and in fact, was kinda put in "directors jail" before The Godfather. Nolan I also don't know his financial background but his first film was made for basically nothing. Tarantino worked at a video store for his 20s because he didn't have enough money and had to focus on writing. Stop with your whining when you could just actually have talent and work hard to get what you want. Take responsibility for your own failures.
David Fincher wouldn't even take his own advice. If he dared to shoot something on an iPad, he'd spend $100,000 on the editing software to put all the VFX elements in the footage that weren't there on location.
They want to think this is true, that anyone with the talent and the drive will make it - then they don't have to feel guilty about not helping anyone out. You can have talent out the ass, all the ambition and drive in the world, you can want it as much as it's possible to want it, but still not succeed. How many movies can actually be made? Not many. And, sure, the camera isn't much - what about sound? What about special effects? I wonder how long Spielberg would have kept making movies when he couldn't afford to make them on no money. How much did Jaws cost? Close Encounters? Indiana Jones? Good luck making those with a borrowed Super 8 and no money! Bullshit. ....And I'm not an aspiring filmmaker, but this applies to all walks of life.
I thought that the iPhone and GoPro would usher in this era of innovative self/taught filmmaking but instead it just created little studios for youtubers and twitch streamers to use. The problem was probably always the script or lack thereof.
These days we have Cameras up to our armpits! There is no excuse for kids not to make movies, I helped my brother make movies as a kid (he wanted to be a director), he used my camera that my mum bought me for my photography, it was not a proper movie camera but we use what we had at the time, kids have lots of camera choices now, my smart phone is better than my old camera.
Scorsese had working class immigrant parents, Spielberg didn't have any "money" until his father became successful in his teens and his father never supported his movies because he didn't think they were a real job. An 8mm camera in the 60s wasn't that much if they saved up and it doesn't give anyone now an excuse. Take responsibility for your own failures.
It is funny to see that these filmmaker are just pushing you to start with your phone, while some new filmmakers are saying the idea of shooting with a phone is useless.
People on UA-cam, TikTok and Found Footage films use phones and basic camcorders all the time and they turn out to be pretty successful. Also just gonna point it out we have to because we don't have cash flow like Spielberg, Depalma, and Nolan had at the time. They came from money.
Did they tho? Christopher Nolan had no budget for first film paying for everything through his full time job also making it hard for him to film only being able to film once a week which took him 2 years to finish the film
Problem is... somehow you need to pay your bills, the rent for your room and the food in your fridge. And I kind of think, that it's not that easy to get paid for making movies, unless you reached a certain level of profession. No matter how artsy your stuff is, we live in endstate capitalism with inflation right now. There never was a easier time since 1920, to end up under a bridge.
When you were a kid.. there was not much content to watch .. so people see whatever you made.. and picture quality didn't matter 😊... But now people don't watch a video if your story is very good but video quality is shit.. though it doesn't apply if you r already famous 😂
That's the point....just make stuff. It doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to be made so you can get better. 8mm cameras look like dogshit, THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF WHAT THEY WERE SAYING!
The point missed here is that directing isn't just about having a camera, it's about getting people to work with you and collaborate. Sometimes that's the hardest part.
Note to self: borrow your dad’s 8mm camera.
Then spend way too much noney on a minute of film 😂
My Dad has got a Super 8mm Camera :) a Sony. I'm gonna destroy professionalism😅
True...thats the begining....and fastest way......
because otherwise you have to wait to finish what ever you study....🔥👍
I dont have a dad
@@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek yes a my-noot amount of film.
That quote about how the professionalism about movies will be destroyed and then it will become an art form really strikes me. So many crafts have this gatekeep, this stopgap of "well thats not real ____" so to have someone do the exact oppositie is so refreshing and inspiring
My thoughts exactly! 🥹
Technology and the internet democratizes art. When the creative endeavor is available to everyone, magic happens.
Agreed!!
Francis Ford Coppola is no stranger to shoestring budget movies. Gis lasg several films hace been super low budget independent movies despite him having 5 Oscars. He's a boss. The Conversation is one of my favorite movies of all time.
I feel this about UA-cam and influencers in general- theres a lot of unhealthy culture among UA-camrs that comes from this being their livelihood, that they have to clickbait and play the algorithm to make a living, but people will always make content even if they're not paid. It will be crap, but they'll make it.
The way Fincher says “Get an iPad” is so funny to me for no reason, although he is right
Same
So you can shoot movies with ipad? Why not iPhone? It had better cameras
@@johnweak6788I think you can use both.
He actually reminds me of JJ Abrams from that Ted Talk with how he changes his intonation lmao
You can edit and license music for very little, the only hard costs are a good sound rig, never underestimate your sound, it’s more important than your image quality, and if you want to shoot at night, or match scenes, a good lighting rig is another potential cost. Don’t forget the backbone of all great movies. Great scripts!! ✍🏻
wait how much does it cost to license music?
@@JessieJamesPlays
Depends on your scoring needs. Many decent subscription music libraries have cropped up in the past few years with the creator/DIY boom. With a little research you'll find plenty of quality, variety and affordability out there.
@@JessieJamesPlaysIt’s thousands of dollars. Really depends on the song, but most times it’s thousands of dollars. This commenter is honestly speaking out of his ass.
@@Donvey ah
@@DonveyI think the commenter does not mean to license world famous music, but using services that allow you to use "music stock".
FF Coppola excited for the accessibility of movie-making. what a big heart. what a legend
I'm currently on this path. All i've done is stop motion in my free time and released edited roblox footage. I'm gonna make a live action with my buddies this summer to be exact. Wish me luck.
best of luck dude
Are you in Jersey by any chance? I'm working on horror. I'm looking to join a crew so I could act in their film or help write.
@@BajloudTheArabBoogieman no, I'm from California, but I'll try to root for you from the west coast.
Note to self: make movies with my telephone
I wish Christopher Nolan would make a animation movie.😁
An *
Step one: have a dad
step 2 make dad buy an ipad
you're on to something, in that it's also "Step 1, come from the upper middle class" which is the case for a lot of them
First step successfully failed
It is strange that most of the successful filmmakers didn't went to a Filmmaking School.
Mostly because they were making movies in their backyard with home video cameras before they were 10. They didn't need film school, they were getting the experience first-hand AND...they knew they wanted to do it for a living from that age.
The best musicians do the same thing: Q-Tip, Taylor Swift, Prince, etc. they ALL knew they wanted to be professional musicians before they had pubes.
Passion towards films made them like that….u take any field of you are passionate about it then definetly you can achieve something big one day in that field…..because you love it so you don’t feel it stressed unlike jobs and you do it happily you learn a lot and later going up on you become big
Spielberg went to film school, Scorsese went to film school. Plenty of successful filmmakers went to school for film or something else. Don't talk bad about film school when there's way more people not going to film school and having no success because their shit sucks.
making movies doesnt really have much to do with the person, but who the person knows. thats why you see so many awful movies come out nowadays, because only the elite are allowed any heirarchy in hollywood
@@DeathBlackWishim currently in film school and the only benefit it gives you is networking and equipment. Maybe how to use said equipment
I bow down to every single one of these directions.
let me pour some annointing oil on your head at least
You are worshipping pedos and ppl that would rape your kids
Beautiful message from the giants.
I personally wish I too was born with a golden spoon in my mouth growing up overlooking the pacific palisades
Literally none of these guys had that. Scorsese was born to working class immigrant parents, Spielberg has working parents that also got divorced part way through his life, Fincher had to work for years as a PA before writing to get his break. Many other famous directors also did not have any financial help as they climbed up the ladder. Stop whining and do something with your life or take responsibility for why you don't have what they have.
@@logantotman1574 I think Spielberg’s dad, who was a computer pioneer in the early sixties, was a little more than a “working parent.” Same with Christopher Nolan, whose father was an advertising executive. Scorsese went to a private Catholic high school for boys in NYC. They all to some degree were born with golden spoons in their mouths. Not really whining about anything either just pointing out how cock it is to generally say “if you want to make movies like I do, you have a camera on your iphone go make yourself a movie” when the person saying that has had their parents financially support their every single wish tenfold.
“And it will become an art form”. Disney: “hold my beer”
I LOVE this whole clip with how Chris Nolan had his humble beginnings... then Francis Ford Coppola ending on that note of professionalism
Super 8 movies...It was great fun filming. Now I use my phone.
I started with the my dads Sony handycam
I used to wait till dad went to work, grab that giant VCR camcorder and we’d run around blowing s-t up with firecrackers all day. I stopped making movies when i got caught up in all the techno crap. That’s where i went wrong.
No time like the present! There's plenty of people out there who love to watch folks blow some shit up.
Go back. I just went back to making movies after 15 years of drugs and working😂
Coppola's words are prophetic
Having a parent is a blessing
Coppola wasn’t off with his statement
I'm doing same zero budget short films with my mobile. ❤
I actually make movies with my friends using my phone to film the scenes 😂
"Telephone"
That's how you make a movie😂😂
Note to self the last director show Francis ford coopla gives great advice
It's all about skill. You can have a crappy camera, crapy equipment and the audience can forgive that aslong as the story is good and there is clearly a level of expertise that went into shooting the film. The opposite can also be said. You can have an amazing camera, amazing equipment but the audience wont appreciate that if your story is crappy and your not clearly not experienced. And, when I say experience, I mean in terms of actually shooting the film (cinematography), and editing the film (such as pacing and overall theme building, etc).
Thats why i like directors/videographers. Hey look that teeny tiny 2mpixel camera can make vids, lets goooooo... Photographers: NO! You need 35mm with an 0.01 aperture lens, nothing is good without boke
Phenomenal advice! ❤️
I'm still trying to get my own piece of the film industry!
If Christopher Nolan didn't went to film making school, I can also win an Oscar someday 🤞✨
Touché Francis!
*If you have a great story you can create a great movie, just need to find your actors and crew*
@Snarkcom *Nah, everything you need you can do it in your phone nowadays, and for the payment of you're actors are committed you can pay them with revenue, even Sodenbergh filmed a movie with an IPhone*
Yeah, but also accept that no one is going to pay you a single penny for that movie after you've killed yourself making it. If you're fully aware of that and still want to make a film then you're meant to be a filmmaker.
Thank you
So true go out there and take chances and make mistakes, take 2… take 22 😁😁
Surviver's bias at its finest
I'm glad somebody gets it.
Can't the same said about people who went to film school? There is no guarantee that going to film school will make you a great filmmaker. The only thing that matters is your talent, passion and perseverance.
@@guyincognito8440 This guy doesn't "get" anything. He impresses himself by saying buzzy phrases like "survivorship bias" after reading it somewhere. Are these guys survivors? Absolutely. So is everyone in the NBA. You have to SURVIVE to do anything at all. So, yeah, you've got access to all the tools you need, but if you aren't any good (and most people won't be), you will not survive.
@@jon8004 It's not at all comparable to professional athletes. You've missed the point completely.
@@guyincognito8440 Then what's the point?
Ive made mine already on my channel
I will make my move. Thanks!
I make movies all the time. I put hidden cameras everywhere, in hotel rooms, women's bathrooms, etc
How long it takes to edit a 1 minute short film?
im *SUPER* shy beacuse this is ny *VERY FIRST* movie where i show my face!
Note to self: be born in a rich family
Fucking what? Scorsese was born to two working class immigrant parents. Spielberg wasn't too far off as his father's ventures didn't make their family much money until his teenage years and his father didn't support his filmmaking so he never got any money from it. David Fincher worked as a PA for films for a while before slowly working up the latter, not born to rich parents. Coppola I don't know but I know he also did not get opportunities right away and in fact, was kinda put in "directors jail" before The Godfather. Nolan I also don't know his financial background but his first film was made for basically nothing. Tarantino worked at a video store for his 20s because he didn't have enough money and had to focus on writing. Stop with your whining when you could just actually have talent and work hard to get what you want. Take responsibility for your own failures.
That's a fascinating quote from Copolla imo. So he's saying professionalism is the enemy of art?
Use what you got and just do it, if there is a story, scene and shot, its a film
David Fincher wouldn't even take his own advice. If he dared to shoot something on an iPad, he'd spend $100,000 on the editing software to put all the VFX elements in the footage that weren't there on location.
It’s about starting somewhere and building up from there.
He's talking about the types of movies kids make with paper, super glue and tinfoil.
How many dads have lost their cameras to aspiring young filmmakers!
Still legends but make it make sense
And none of those gents would make a film on a phone😂
Yes Sir, it's easier to film something but the requirements are very very. I don't know how it is in the USA, but in Germany it's almost impossible
Wolfgang Petersen
Note. Let others use the stuff you have that you don't use
They want to think this is true, that anyone with the talent and the drive will make it - then they don't have to feel guilty about not helping anyone out. You can have talent out the ass, all the ambition and drive in the world, you can want it as much as it's possible to want it, but still not succeed. How many movies can actually be made? Not many. And, sure, the camera isn't much - what about sound? What about special effects? I wonder how long Spielberg would have kept making movies when he couldn't afford to make them on no money. How much did Jaws cost? Close Encounters? Indiana Jones? Good luck making those with a borrowed Super 8 and no money! Bullshit. ....And I'm not an aspiring filmmaker, but this applies to all walks of life.
I thought that the iPhone and GoPro would usher in this era of innovative self/taught filmmaking but instead it just created little studios for youtubers and twitch streamers to use. The problem was probably always the script or lack thereof.
Such great advice honestly. That's why my UA-cam channel exists! XD
Fablemans story
These days we have Cameras up to our armpits! There is no excuse for kids not to make movies, I helped my brother make movies as a kid (he wanted to be a director), he used my camera that my mum bought me for my photography, it was not a proper movie camera but we use what we had at the time, kids have lots of camera choices now, my smart phone is better than my old camera.
When they say borrow your fathers 8mm camera, may sounds simple... not. Means they had money...
Scorsese had working class immigrant parents, Spielberg didn't have any "money" until his father became successful in his teens and his father never supported his movies because he didn't think they were a real job. An 8mm camera in the 60s wasn't that much if they saved up and it doesn't give anyone now an excuse. Take responsibility for your own failures.
Step 1 let your father buy an 8mm camera
It is funny to see that these filmmaker are just pushing you to start with your phone, while some new filmmakers are saying the idea of shooting with a phone is useless.
Okay, so first I have to ask my dad to buy an 8 mm camera! 😔😭
The last guy who is that
Francis Ford Coppola.....the man who made Godfather part 1,2 and 3 and Apocalypse now ...his most noted films
TEAM DEMOCRATIZATION OF CINEMA AND STORYTELLING ✊
People on UA-cam, TikTok and Found Footage films use phones and basic camcorders all the time and they turn out to be pretty successful. Also just gonna point it out we have to because we don't have cash flow like Spielberg, Depalma, and Nolan had at the time. They came from money.
Did they tho? Christopher Nolan had no budget for first film paying for everything through his full time job also making it hard for him to film only being able to film once a week which took him 2 years to finish the film
None of this is advice on how to make a movie.
I have never touched an iPad nor did my parents...
You have a phone
Yeah found footage is what's it called
it all starts with dads camera
SOLI DEO GLORIA
(To The Glory Of God Alone)
Father, Son & Holy Spirit
-Ronnie
The dream is right in front of u
Kubrick was hell right
But my parents don't have an iPad . Or an 8mm camera .
But you have a phone, the iPad point was that you can literally make movies on a tablet, that applies with phones.
I’m watching this from a homeless shelter looll
Talking to spirlberg about making movies is like asking todays Egyptians about building pyramids
Kubrick was on point
Why do they almost always have lots of hair, a beard and glasses?
I can't make anything I want to make with an ipad.
Fatherless Filmmaker is a myth
Problem is... somehow you need to pay your bills, the rent for your room and the food in your fridge. And I kind of think, that it's not that easy to get paid for making movies, unless you reached a certain level of profession. No matter how artsy your stuff is, we live in endstate capitalism with inflation right now. There never was a easier time since 1920, to end up under a bridge.
No Sir my parents don't have an Ipad... 🙂
Unfortunately nowadays kids are too busy scrolling through tik-tok on that camera😢
It’s so ironic that as making movies is more accessible than ever the elitism and “professionalism” of making “real” movies is still around
Amd what we got: tiktok 😂😂😂
in short: have a Dad
Saying make movies from a telephone shows how old he is. 😂
i dont understand the professionalism about movies being destroyed thing, what?
When you were a kid.. there was not much content to watch .. so people see whatever you made.. and picture quality didn't matter 😊... But now people don't watch a video if your story is very good but video quality is shit.. though it doesn't apply if you r already famous 😂
Filmmakers are now known as tik tokers 😣 slight drop in quality but it’s convenient
These guys are a joke. They barely hire anyone who has never been to film school to work for them or to even be on there set.
come on kidds go make those movies. your parents dont have an ipad? well just steal one or something from school.
A phone wnd voila! Crappy film!
That's the point....just make stuff. It doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to be made so you can get better. 8mm cameras look like dogshit, THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF WHAT THEY WERE SAYING!
The point missed here is that directing isn't just about having a camera, it's about getting people to work with you and collaborate. Sometimes that's the hardest part.
The fact that no one has a duckin ipad in my whole society is just 🤯🤯
Crazy to think very guy in this video is a legend and had MUCH less ability to make a movie based on what was available at the time they were young.
What happen to heather o rourke????
Septic shock from an intestinal blockage. At least, officially.