@@ElijahHerringtonXC and on top of it there's a TON of other reviews that just give like first impression reviews and first run reviews. Hardly any of them are putting out videos on double days, 100 mile updates, etc. I love how in depth his reviews are and he cuts out all the BS and stays true to his thoughts and feelings.
Your current approach to shoe reviews is a key differentiator in a crowded marketplace. It enhances your credibility and therefore the value of your content.
Dude... Your videos are absolutely killer. Since discovering you I've watch soooooo muchhhh of your content. You deserve so much more subs. Like seriously the best running show reviewer out there, hands down, no contest. Keep up the amazing work brother 🤙
"Easy to run in" is the name of the game for the V3 💯 Considering it's touted to be a long run trainer (on the tongue of the shoe), it serves that purpose well. Thank you for putting the work in for these 100 mile reviews! Much appreciated! 🙏
Shots fired! You bring valid points tho. More and more are only focusing on pumping as much videos for the least time possible, running barely what you do daily and call it a review. Unfortunately, it happens with almost everything that can be "reviewed" - electronics, clothes, cars. Those are "overviews" and something people can do for themselves just by going to the store and testing a shoe out. Customers that buy their stuff want to hear about durability. What you do is not only respectable but also very valuable for the consumers who buy their stuff. Most others are just salesmen - new product > "feels great i promise, buy it, i ran 5 miles" > rinse > repeat. Its funny because most of these channels are operated by multiple people yet they can't bother having everyone on a different shoe and doing the review properly. Instead, have everyone on the same shoe, go for a jog and pull the camera. As for the SC Trainer V3, for the average Andy like me who haven't tried that many stuff let alone 200$+, these feel nice. I am yet to put the miles in but hope they last. Luckily i scored them for 130€. Its my first plated shoe and i really enjoy the responsiveness, energy return, the "bounce" these offer over the regular daily trainers. My last New Balance's were Rebel V2 and these feel different and very fun.
I chose this as my daily trainer/workout day shoe for my first marathon prep because it comes in 2E, is very comfortable and supportive, and makes a 10-11 minute pace (my workout day pace) feel pretty matural. Im a bigger guy with very wide feet, i have tried so many shoes before these, and these worked out the best. Maybe as I speed up getting closer to the marathon, I will want something faster, but man, no other brands make shoes like this in 2E, maybe I'll try to find a V2. Also run in the ghost max 2 on recovery/easy days and love those.
Thank you for what you do. You are the helping me so much with what you do and your workouts , shoe reviews , the whole 9 yards ! I was looking at the SC Trainer. V3 for my long run marathon training , but now , I’m thinking Novablast 4 all the way for my long run option
“It’s a shoe that gets the job done ✅ “ Perfect for me then, probably this is the 10th or so vid I watch from your channel bro, just getting addicted 😅 I need a comfy mile muncher shoe with a bit of a twist , been training on fresh foam the last couple of years and it’s great , thought on combining that with this shoe ( instead of the Boston 12 I was just about to buy) Thanks man, amazing stuff hope you get rewarded for such good job .
Very helpful review on my most anticipated shoe (not anymore). Just do your thing -- that is what's bringing succes to your channel. Your actions and reviews speak for themselves. No need to say anything negative about how others do their reviews -- the viewers can tell the difference.
My man putting in that work. I’ve been putting work in the adidas Prima. And really loving it as a cheaper version of the Superblast . Good alt for SC trainer 3 too . Prima - Dream strike is nice , good balance of soft and bounce while still being stable and the upper is almost perfect!
another video idea, rating shoe rotations based on each brand's latest release (example: NB - tempo/trainer/racer, Saucony - tempo/trainer/racer, Hoka - tempo/trainer/racer combination rotation on a rating of 1-10)
I'm always enjoying your honest review. I'm lucky to be running in 2024 because there are so many "good" running shoes in the market and good shoes are enough for hobby jogger like me. The SC trainer v3 will be launched August 5th in the South Korea and I'm waiting to buy these because the Novablast 4 is sold out and the Hoka shoes are expensive in our country. I recently bought Novablast 3 in about 80 dollars but the upper was kind of hot in very hot and humid Korean Summer. Thanks for reading too long reply.
Another great video that shows how a 100mi test with a 20mi long run shows what the shoe can do and what it can't do..until you have done the 20mi long run you don't know how the foam holds up after 2hrs+ on feet..almost any shoe can work for 5k but the longer the distance gets the more weaknesses of the shoe show themselves. .this is why I always start my day with yowana and a cinnamon raisin bagel with honey and my caffeine. .my shoe choices are not necessarily the same but any shoe I like always have the same basic characteristics and I use the same training philosophy. .great job as always. .
And don't worry about making a mistake, its only YOUR opinion. I like your reviews but always try shoes for myself and I suggest everyone else do the same. Some shoes I agree with you and some I don't and thats ok.
I have a plantar plate injury and was advised to run in a less flexible, rocker forefoot shoe with the lowest drop possible. I own the Brooks Ghost Max V1 and was able to run in it when it was new. However, after reaching 60 km, it began to break in, becoming softer and more flexible, which caused pain in my forefoot. Now, I can only use it as a walking shoe. Currently, I am able to run in the Boston 12, which has now reached 70 km. I believe this is because the Boston 12 has a plate and a firmer midsole, which prevents bending in the forefoot area, thereby reducing the pain from my plantar plate injury. I'm now looking for a second pair of shoes similar to the Boston 12. I've shortlisted the Hyperion Max 2 and the SC Trainer v3 but am unsure which of these is more similar to the Boston 12, more durable (unlike the Ghost Max V1), and suitable for easy runs. I run at a very slow pace of around 8 min/km. I'm 50 years old, 183 cm tall, and weigh 78 kg.
The ride feel of a shoe, will always be just personal experience. I love hearing your thoughts, even though your experiences/likes usually don't match mine in the slightest.
Head to head between NB 860 and Puma Velocity Nitro 3 would be interesting to me. VN3 has been a great shoe for me, 860 might fit more people's feet well though.
Firstly, thanks on another great review. I've focused on your positives about this shoe - however small they were. I really like the Rebel V4s and if this is the same compound and feel it will work for me. What doesn't work though is the price in the UK - £230 or the equivalent of $297. Obscene.
Great review and comparison. I ran a 1:40 half in the endorphin speed 4 and felt like the forefoot was bottoming out in the last few miles. 160#. Looking for a good comfortable 15-20 mile training shoe and potential marathon shoe to finish it in that's not too aggressive. I want to get the superblast 2 also though. Have about 150 miles in my novablast 4 but it seems too slow at times and is more of an easy run shoe for me.
the topo specter 2 may be exactly what you want. nice and bouncy race foam but more supportive and a little firmer than the speed 4. i need to put some more miles on it soon so stay tuned - it's coming out next month
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to make it! Quick question...do you have a recommendation for the best training shoe for short and long runs that adds the ability to pick up the pace with great support? I'm currently running in the Nike Tempo Next%, but since they don't make them anymore I'm looking for a great replacement that still pops and has great support like the Tempo Next%s do. Was looking at potentially this one, the Adidas Boston 12 or the Puma Deviate Nitro 3. Appreciate your help!
I was just watching your other supercomp videos and I might be considering this shoe if I can’t find the v1 anywhere, I just really like this lineup 🤷🏿♂️
@@Grant7225 my friend got about the same mileage, close to 800 now. But I don’t think it’s worth paying $300 on stockx for them now unfortunately, so I’ll have to miss out on such a good shoe 🤷🏼♂️
only thing i would say that the Novablast 4 is a dry weather shoe, taking it out in the rain or any sloppy conditions makes it less versatile imo. i think with the sc trainer which yes is $40 more you could probably run that in a downpour and not worry about running over slick sidewalks or muddy roads etc. if the novablast 5 changes to the asics grip like they did in the superblast 2 then yea it would be a no brainer imo
So true - the grip on novablast 4 is dangerously bad. I didn't have a chance to do wet weather in the sc trainer v3 but I took it on some trails and it did great. And I took rebel v4 through the pouring rain and it held up really well - pretty sure that's the same rubber as the trainer v3
I'm a bit sad that it was not a banger for you. Maybe the sizing was the diff maker, maybe not. Hope it would be great for heavy runner like me when it's becomes available especially the fit.
I appreciate the nuance, acknowledging that the SC Trainer may be a solid choice for some people (maybe bigger guys?). Are you going to do more testing on the Magic Speed 4? I've had a similar experience with the Neo Vista. It's soft, it's bouncy, it's rockered; all like they said. However, use case is similar to any max cushion daily trainer. It doesn't feel as nimble and quick as a Mach 6, SL2, or others in that category.
Great, thoughtful review! My wife enjoyed the shout out 😂. I’m still on the fence. What are you taking for the long run if you had to choose? SC Trainer v3 or Balos?
Hahaha love that. And for the long run I'd take the sc trainer v3. It works well for that for sure - just not my favorite ride. Balos is one of my personal favorites for everyday runs right now but I think a lot of people will find it too soft and unstable - and for me it can get a little squirrelly depending on how I'm feeling
I stopped running 6+ years ago. My son is 6 and now he’s running 5k and I’m running everyday again so I basically stepped out of a Time Machine 6 years in the future of shoe tech. I saw your vids on the rebel V4 and first impressions of the trainer. I tried on the rebel v4 and to me felt like I was in the squishiest shoe I have ever felt. Now I’m wondering if these are lower stack lower responsiveness how insanely awesome running shoes are now.
Your son is a beast! Ripping 5k at 6 years old 💪🏽 also yeah you're going to be blown away by some of the newer tech. If you're looking for a fun shoe to ease back in I'd highly recommend the Hoka mach 6 - it has a lot of the modern elements but is still easy to run in
YOOO Yowana what's up!!! love this video as always, it makes me think twice before I was going to buy this shoe. I am looking for an fun, poppy and speedy shoes for long runs and some speed work, do you think the puma deviate nitro 2/3 would be a good option for that? or do you have any other recommendations?
puma deviate nitro 2 would be a great pick, especially since it's on sale! i also think magic speed 4 might work will for you - stay tuned for more testing on that one
Been using the Rebel V4 for training for my first half marathon, really love them! Would you recommend the SC V3 for a possible long run / race day shoe for the half and full marathon?
Hey man. Fantastic stuff. Now I love SCT v1, do not love v2 it was really unstable for me, and hoping the stability of v3 is better than v2. Can you please let us know is it more stable, less stable, than v2? You mentioned it's a stable ride, but others have said that about v2 as well. Thank you for all you do.
Hey David thanks for the kind note! It's more stable than v2 due to the wider base throughout and firmer foam. You should find it a lot better than v2 because of that
I followed your advice on a pair of trainers which I really enjoy. I'm now doing serious hill repeats 3 times a week. Sprint up the hills & walk the straights to recoup. Then up the next one. Any recommendation for a light shoe?
I remember a while back you got the rebel! I would highly recommend the brooks Hyperion 2 as a follow up to that shoe. It's a little firmer but just as light and feels even faster. It's my favorite lightweight speed shoe right now
Some advice please! Half marathon on the horizon. Big guy, 1.88m, 260-270lbs. Last year I did it in 2.18 having walked a section. Aiming for sub 2.15 so need a super comfy shoe, ideally light for when my legs get heavy/form drops off so that it pushes me thru to the finish line without walking! Last year I ran in the Nike Invincible Run v.2. Was super comfy but wanting to see if there’s a better shoe out there for me. Perhaps with some pop and more cushion, so I’m open to a plate and higher foam (40-50mm). New Balance appear to have a strong range of cushioned and/or plated shoes for half marathon distance. But which one for a big guy like me?! Or is the Invincible Run a shoe I should stick with?
I feel like this shoe proves out that you don't put a plate in your daily trainer's foam. A plate isn't going to make a firmish, mildly bouncy foam more responsive.
Interested in this too. My thoughts are go the sc elite v4 and the propel v5. You spend a bit more on one but save a lot on the other. Then you have 2 shoes which clearly serve different purposes.
Catching up after being on vacation lol but I was able to try on the Hyperion Max 2 today and it was somewhat firm with a slight squish but felt really good. Does thd foam get softer overtime?
I only have 14 miles but it hasn't softened up a ton - it's definitely a firmer shoe. SC Trainer 3 and deviate nitro 3 are much softer than the Hyperion max 2!
Yowana, I was considering getting the SC Trainer v3 until I saw this video. What super trainer would you recommend that is: 1) lightweight under 9.5 oz, 2) plated, 3) very protective for long runs with at least 40 mm foam in the heel and, 4) can pick up the pace for tempo/threshold?
The majority of my training is done in Noosa Tri 15's. Looking for something similar in weight, a tad more overall cushion and more pop that doesn't leave my calves feeling over used. Wondering how the SC trainer would compare, thoughts?
Does Hyperion Max 2 do what Superblast 2 owners rave about? Great long run do it all marathon training uptempo shoe? Would you replace Superblast with it?
Still need to get some more miles but so far Hyperion max 2 is great for faster running but definitely wouldn't be my choice for a superblast replacement - it's a little too firm and aggressive for me for that. SC Trainer v3 would be closer to what you're looking for in a superblast replacement (comfortable for long runs), but the ride isn't the most exciting. I would go for the skyward X or just get the superblast 2 if you can find it (I still haven't tested the 2 and don't think there are even any pairs available in my size)
@@supwell Thanks for the response. I really appreciate it. Superblast 2 is totally sold out. I ordered them twice even from another country and I received an email immediately that they were sold out. I’ll have to give the Hoka a try if I can find one too.
In the US the sc trainer is $70 usd cheaper than the elite yet in Australia it is only $20 usd cheaper which from your review makes it sound like the sc trainer is not worth it at all!
Dang I'm sorry you didn't see this review before 😩 if you're going to return and are looking for alternatives my favorite plated trainers recently have been puma deviate nitro 3 and Asics magic speed 4. The puma is sturdy and great for everyday miles and longer runs with some bounce. And the Asics is a great pick if you want a soft and comfortable speed shoe. Hoka skyward x is my pick if you just want the bounciest and most exciting training shoe out there
really love your reviews (esp. this one), the work you put into them is incredible -- a quick question if you happen to read this: assuming budget is not an issue is there any reason why you would want to go with the 1080v13 vs the Balos? (The 1080 is my current daily driver but with almost 800kms I'm looking to replace it, and I hesitate between a fresh new pair or just get the Balos when it's out 🤔) Cheers from Belgium 🧇🍺
If you like the 1080 you'll prob like the balos as well. I do think the 1080 will have better durability given that the balos uses foam on most of the bottom instead of rubber. Also the balos is very soft - maybe even softer than the 1080 so keep that in mind! It's fun but for most people I'd suggest the more v5 as a 1080 replacement. It's more stable and a little easier on the feet/ankles because of that vs the balos - also cheaper by a good bit in the US
@@supwell Thanks so much for your insights (I did not even consider the more v5!). Keep the awesome work and let us know when europeans can order your awesome hat (and other awesome gear) :)
If you're looking for the bounciest shoe out there I would check out the hoka skyward x and not either of those. Of those two though, The sc trainer v3 is lighter and has a little more bounce at faster pace. The magmax is more comfortable
Hello yowana why sc elite v4 more price than sc trainer v3 ??? What's the major difference??? .. and why in new balance site writing sc trainer v3 extra sot than sc elite v4????
The sc elite v4 uses a different foam than the sc trainer - the elite has a full race foam that is lighter, softer and bouncier. That's why it's more expensive
The Rebel v4 has been so disappointing. The foam change has killed the unique, fun ride of the shoe. Will pass on this one despite loving v1 and liking v2.
Early overreaction (just finished prerun commentary): I think you don’t like this shoe but you are trying to be fair to the brand and its fans. We all hate being disappointed with boring feeling shoes but the tech keeps moving and shoes outside the top quartile will naturally underwhelm us
Most of the Premium Hoka lineup come in weirdly jarring Colorways, something I will be embarrassed to wear in public. For Gym treadmill, maybe it’s fine.
Yeah they always launch in super bright colors. But they dropped a few more muted color ways of the skyward x recently and have added some less aggressive colorways
Embarrassed to wear in public? They're running shoes. Lose the ego. You should be more embarrassed at the fact that you give so much weight to how you think others perceive you for something so insignificant.
no one, I repeat no one does running shoe reviews like you do. The effort is truly amazing.
Agree, just wish they were easier to digest in a shorter and to the point video.
@@AuDHDRunnerhe gives time stamps for ya
@@ElijahHerringtonXC and on top of it there's a TON of other reviews that just give like first impression reviews and first run reviews. Hardly any of them are putting out videos on double days, 100 mile updates, etc. I love how in depth his reviews are and he cuts out all the BS and stays true to his thoughts and feelings.
Your current approach to shoe reviews is a key differentiator in a crowded marketplace. It enhances your credibility and therefore the value of your content.
Agreed
He said if you want a speed shoe with training wheels, this is the shoe for you 😂 I love the honesty, big dawg. Keep it coming
Dude... Your videos are absolutely killer. Since discovering you I've watch soooooo muchhhh of your content. You deserve so much more subs. Like seriously the best running show reviewer out there, hands down, no contest. Keep up the amazing work brother 🤙
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 thank you
"Easy to run in" is the name of the game for the V3 💯 Considering it's touted to be a long run trainer (on the tongue of the shoe), it serves that purpose well. Thank you for putting the work in for these 100 mile reviews! Much appreciated! 🙏
Can’t wait for your more v5 100 mile review
watching after 36 seconds published 🔥
V1 was a unique and exciting shoe. V2 watered that down and V3 seems to have mailed it in. Thanks for the quick to get to 100 mile review.
Your 100 mile review of the SC trainer v3 was so fast i didn't expect it. Hope you push it to 300 miles. 😁
Helps when you run like 20 miles a day lol.
My man truly cares, and I appreciate that!
Shots fired! You bring valid points tho. More and more are only focusing on pumping as much videos for the least time possible, running barely what you do daily and call it a review. Unfortunately, it happens with almost everything that can be "reviewed" - electronics, clothes, cars. Those are "overviews" and something people can do for themselves just by going to the store and testing a shoe out. Customers that buy their stuff want to hear about durability. What you do is not only respectable but also very valuable for the consumers who buy their stuff. Most others are just salesmen - new product > "feels great i promise, buy it, i ran 5 miles" > rinse > repeat. Its funny because most of these channels are operated by multiple people yet they can't bother having everyone on a different shoe and doing the review properly. Instead, have everyone on the same shoe, go for a jog and pull the camera.
As for the SC Trainer V3, for the average Andy like me who haven't tried that many stuff let alone 200$+, these feel nice. I am yet to put the miles in but hope they last. Luckily i scored them for 130€. Its my first plated shoe and i really enjoy the responsiveness, energy return, the "bounce" these offer over the regular daily trainers. My last New Balance's were Rebel V2 and these feel different and very fun.
I chose this as my daily trainer/workout day shoe for my first marathon prep because it comes in 2E, is very comfortable and supportive, and makes a 10-11 minute pace (my workout day pace) feel pretty matural. Im a bigger guy with very wide feet, i have tried so many shoes before these, and these worked out the best. Maybe as I speed up getting closer to the marathon, I will want something faster, but man, no other brands make shoes like this in 2E, maybe I'll try to find a V2. Also run in the ghost max 2 on recovery/easy days and love those.
Thank you for what you do. You are the helping me so much with what you do and your workouts , shoe reviews , the whole 9 yards !
I was looking at the SC Trainer. V3 for my long run marathon training , but now , I’m thinking Novablast 4 all the way for my long run option
“We did the work” We? There’s no we, it was all you man. Props!
“It’s a shoe that gets the job done ✅ “
Perfect for me then, probably this is the 10th or so vid I watch from your channel bro, just getting addicted 😅
I need a comfy mile muncher shoe with a bit of a twist , been training on fresh foam the last couple of years and it’s great , thought on combining that with this shoe ( instead of the Boston 12 I was just about to buy)
Thanks man, amazing stuff hope you get rewarded for such good job .
Thanks for the kind words! And if you are looking for a shoe to chew through a bunch of miles you'll love this one 🙌🏽💪🏽
Very helpful review on my most anticipated shoe (not anymore). Just do your thing -- that is what's bringing succes to your channel. Your actions and reviews speak for themselves. No need to say anything negative about how others do their reviews -- the viewers can tell the difference.
My man putting in that work.
I’ve been putting work in the adidas Prima. And really loving it as a cheaper version of the Superblast . Good alt for SC trainer 3 too .
Prima - Dream strike is nice , good balance of soft and bounce while still being stable and the upper is almost perfect!
I'm hoping to test that one soon! Sounds awesome
Your reviews are awesome - the best
My number one shoe in my large shoe rotation. It's not even close.
Bro put up 100 miles (in a single pair of shoes) faster than I did 20 😂
Facts! lmao
Love your shoe reviews 🎉🎉🎉
Sad day in the office today! I was actually planning to purchase the NBSCV3 asap. But instead I’ll just get 2 pairs of Adidas SL2’s for the same price
Stays putting in work
This is a great review! Thanks for sharing
another video idea, rating shoe rotations based on each brand's latest release (example: NB - tempo/trainer/racer, Saucony - tempo/trainer/racer, Hoka - tempo/trainer/racer combination rotation on a rating of 1-10)
Dropped another heater . Appreciate the review bro.
For those who like lighter, smaller shoes, the Hyperion 2 and Noosa Tri 16 both sound promising. Also, both have nice rockers.
I'm always enjoying your honest review.
I'm lucky to be running in 2024 because there are so many "good" running shoes in the market and good shoes are enough for hobby jogger like me.
The SC trainer v3 will be launched August 5th in the South Korea and I'm waiting to buy these because the Novablast 4 is sold out and the Hoka shoes are expensive in our country. I recently bought Novablast 3 in about 80 dollars but the upper was kind of hot in very hot and humid Korean Summer. Thanks for reading too long reply.
Another great video that shows how a 100mi test with a 20mi long run shows what the shoe can do and what it can't do..until you have done the 20mi long run you don't know how the foam holds up after 2hrs+ on feet..almost any shoe can work for 5k but the longer the distance gets the more weaknesses of the shoe show themselves. .this is why I always start my day with yowana and a cinnamon raisin bagel with honey and my caffeine. .my shoe choices are not necessarily the same but any shoe I like always have the same basic characteristics and I use the same training philosophy. .great job as always. .
Thank Freddy - also you have great taste in bagels! That's my favorite pre-long run breakfast
And don't worry about making a mistake, its only YOUR opinion. I like your reviews but always try shoes for myself and I suggest everyone else do the same. Some shoes I agree with you and some I don't and thats ok.
I have a plantar plate injury and was advised to run in a less flexible, rocker forefoot shoe with the lowest drop possible. I own the Brooks Ghost Max V1 and was able to run in it when it was new. However, after reaching 60 km, it began to break in, becoming softer and more flexible, which caused pain in my forefoot. Now, I can only use it as a walking shoe.
Currently, I am able to run in the Boston 12, which has now reached 70 km. I believe this is because the Boston 12 has a plate and a firmer midsole, which prevents bending in the forefoot area, thereby reducing the pain from my plantar plate injury.
I'm now looking for a second pair of shoes similar to the Boston 12. I've shortlisted the Hyperion Max 2 and the SC Trainer v3 but am unsure which of these is more similar to the Boston 12, more durable (unlike the Ghost Max V1), and suitable for easy runs. I run at a very slow pace of around 8 min/km. I'm 50 years old, 183 cm tall, and weigh 78 kg.
The ride feel of a shoe, will always be just personal experience. I love hearing your thoughts, even though your experiences/likes usually don't match mine in the slightest.
Head to head between NB 860 and Puma Velocity Nitro 3 would be interesting to me. VN3 has been a great shoe for me, 860 might fit more people's feet well though.
Nothing better than the G.O.A.T SC Trainer V1.
Oh yeah my favorite
Firstly, thanks on another great review. I've focused on your positives about this shoe - however small they were. I really like the Rebel V4s and if this is the same compound and feel it will work for me. What doesn't work though is the price in the UK - £230 or the equivalent of $297. Obscene.
I have loved the novablast 4 tr just a great daily trainer.
Great review and comparison. I ran a 1:40 half in the endorphin speed 4 and felt like the forefoot was bottoming out in the last few miles. 160#. Looking for a good comfortable 15-20 mile training shoe and potential marathon shoe to finish it in that's not too aggressive. I want to get the superblast 2 also though. Have about 150 miles in my novablast 4 but it seems too slow at times and is more of an easy run shoe for me.
the topo specter 2 may be exactly what you want. nice and bouncy race foam but more supportive and a little firmer than the speed 4. i need to put some more miles on it soon so stay tuned - it's coming out next month
@@supwell I just looked that one up and its on my radar now!
Yowana’s reviews run longer than my runs at this point.
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to make it! Quick question...do you have a recommendation for the best training shoe for short and long runs that adds the ability to pick up the pace with great support? I'm currently running in the Nike Tempo Next%, but since they don't make them anymore I'm looking for a great replacement that still pops and has great support like the Tempo Next%s do. Was looking at potentially this one, the Adidas Boston 12 or the Puma Deviate Nitro 3. Appreciate your help!
I was just watching your other supercomp videos and I might be considering this shoe if I can’t find the v1 anywhere, I just really like this lineup 🤷🏿♂️
Same, I loved the v1 for 700 miles but they are hard to find now!
@@Grant7225 my friend got about the same mileage, close to 800 now. But I don’t think it’s worth paying $300 on stockx for them now unfortunately, so I’ll have to miss out on such a good shoe 🤷🏼♂️
You are the Doug DeMuro of shoes!
Just keep the hobby jogger universe the way it is - don’t be sending anyone any flowers to get shoes. Yowana don’t want no flowers man!! 😆
only thing i would say that the Novablast 4 is a dry weather shoe, taking it out in the rain or any sloppy conditions makes it less versatile imo. i think with the sc trainer which yes is $40 more you could probably run that in a downpour and not worry about running over slick sidewalks or muddy roads etc. if the novablast 5 changes to the asics grip like they did in the superblast 2 then yea it would be a no brainer imo
So true - the grip on novablast 4 is dangerously bad. I didn't have a chance to do wet weather in the sc trainer v3 but I took it on some trails and it did great. And I took rebel v4 through the pouring rain and it held up really well - pretty sure that's the same rubber as the trainer v3
Yep 👍🏻
ur the goat
🙌🏽 I appreciate you!
I agree with the price seems a bit much 160 or even better 140
I'm a bit sad that it was not a banger for you. Maybe the sizing was the diff maker, maybe not.
Hope it would be great for heavy runner like me when it's becomes available especially the fit.
I appreciate the nuance, acknowledging that the SC Trainer may be a solid choice for some people (maybe bigger guys?). Are you going to do more testing on the Magic Speed 4?
I've had a similar experience with the Neo Vista. It's soft, it's bouncy, it's rockered; all like they said. However, use case is similar to any max cushion daily trainer. It doesn't feel as nimble and quick as a Mach 6, SL2, or others in that category.
Yes stay tuned for more on magic speed 4. I want to get on another workout with some longer miles in that one
Great, thoughtful review! My wife enjoyed the shout out 😂. I’m still on the fence. What are you taking for the long run if you had to choose? SC Trainer v3 or Balos?
Hahaha love that. And for the long run I'd take the sc trainer v3. It works well for that for sure - just not my favorite ride. Balos is one of my personal favorites for everyday runs right now but I think a lot of people will find it too soft and unstable - and for me it can get a little squirrelly depending on how I'm feeling
I stopped running 6+ years ago. My son is 6 and now he’s running 5k and I’m running everyday again so I basically stepped out of a Time Machine 6 years in the future of shoe tech. I saw your vids on the rebel V4 and first impressions of the trainer. I tried on the rebel v4 and to me felt like I was in the squishiest shoe I have ever felt. Now I’m wondering if these are lower stack lower responsiveness how insanely awesome running shoes are now.
Your son is a beast! Ripping 5k at 6 years old 💪🏽 also yeah you're going to be blown away by some of the newer tech. If you're looking for a fun shoe to ease back in I'd highly recommend the Hoka mach 6 - it has a lot of the modern elements but is still easy to run in
YOOO Yowana what's up!!! love this video as always, it makes me think twice before I was going to buy this shoe. I am looking for an fun, poppy and speedy shoes for long runs and some speed work, do you think the puma deviate nitro 2/3 would be a good option for that? or do you have any other recommendations?
puma deviate nitro 2 would be a great pick, especially since it's on sale! i also think magic speed 4 might work will for you - stay tuned for more testing on that one
@@supwell Yeah I see, I am also considering the Hyperion 2 since it's a faster option. I will stay tuned to see!
Been using the Rebel V4 for training for my first half marathon, really love them! Would you recommend the SC V3 for a possible long run / race day shoe for the half and full marathon?
more v5 vs 1080v13 vs novablast 4 review?
can't wait to rock my hobby jogger cap!
great idea! will add to list
Another banger! 🎉
Hey man. Fantastic stuff. Now I love SCT v1, do not love v2 it was really unstable for me, and hoping the stability of v3 is better than v2. Can you please let us know is it more stable, less stable, than v2? You mentioned it's a stable ride, but others have said that about v2 as well. Thank you for all you do.
Hey David thanks for the kind note! It's more stable than v2 due to the wider base throughout and firmer foam. You should find it a lot better than v2 because of that
@@supwell thank you so much for the response! I will definitely try em out then!
Can you do a comparison of the 860v14 vs the Vomero 17
Glycerin max might be THE shoe for Brooks
that one looks so good - can't wait to try
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I followed your advice on a pair of trainers which I really enjoy. I'm now doing serious hill repeats 3 times a week. Sprint up the hills & walk the straights to recoup. Then up the next one. Any recommendation for a light shoe?
I remember a while back you got the rebel! I would highly recommend the brooks Hyperion 2 as a follow up to that shoe. It's a little firmer but just as light and feels even faster. It's my favorite lightweight speed shoe right now
@@supwell many thanks 🙏
The new foam in the sc trainer v3 is too dense and it mutes the plate.
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new morning routine, watch yowana videos before I go on my own run
Some advice please!
Half marathon on the horizon. Big guy, 1.88m, 260-270lbs. Last year I did it in 2.18 having walked a section.
Aiming for sub 2.15 so need a super comfy shoe, ideally light for when my legs get heavy/form drops off so that it pushes me thru to the finish line without walking!
Last year I ran in the Nike Invincible Run v.2. Was super comfy but wanting to see if there’s a better shoe out there for me. Perhaps with some pop and more cushion, so I’m open to a plate and higher foam (40-50mm).
New Balance appear to have a strong range of cushioned and/or plated shoes for half marathon distance.
But which one for a big guy like me?!
Or is the Invincible Run a shoe I should stick with?
I feel like this shoe proves out that you don't put a plate in your daily trainer's foam. A plate isn't going to make a firmish, mildly bouncy foam more responsive.
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would rather buy the propel v5 over the sc trainer v3 considering prices??
Interested in this too. My thoughts are go the sc elite v4 and the propel v5. You spend a bit more on one but save a lot on the other. Then you have 2 shoes which clearly serve different purposes.
Let's see what you say about the Mach X 2....
Catching up after being on vacation lol but I was able to try on the Hyperion Max 2 today and it was somewhat firm with a slight squish but felt really good. Does thd foam get softer overtime?
I only have 14 miles but it hasn't softened up a ton - it's definitely a firmer shoe. SC Trainer 3 and deviate nitro 3 are much softer than the Hyperion max 2!
Yowana, I was considering getting the SC Trainer v3 until I saw this video. What super trainer would you recommend that is: 1) lightweight under 9.5 oz, 2) plated, 3) very protective for long runs with at least 40 mm foam in the heel and, 4) can pick up the pace for tempo/threshold?
The majority of my training is done in Noosa Tri 15's. Looking for something similar in weight, a tad more overall cushion and more pop that doesn't leave my calves feeling over used. Wondering how the SC trainer would compare, thoughts?
is this the most comfortable shoe youve tried? if not which one is currently?
WOW, 4days for more 80miles, 20miles every day, no rest😱
how does this compare to rebel v4 and propel v5
Does Hyperion Max 2 do what Superblast 2 owners rave about? Great long run do it all marathon training uptempo shoe? Would you replace Superblast with it?
Still need to get some more miles but so far Hyperion max 2 is great for faster running but definitely wouldn't be my choice for a superblast replacement - it's a little too firm and aggressive for me for that. SC Trainer v3 would be closer to what you're looking for in a superblast replacement (comfortable for long runs), but the ride isn't the most exciting. I would go for the skyward X or just get the superblast 2 if you can find it (I still haven't tested the 2 and don't think there are even any pairs available in my size)
@@supwell Thanks for the response. I really appreciate it. Superblast 2 is totally sold out. I ordered them twice even from another country and I received an email immediately that they were sold out. I’ll have to give the Hoka a try if I can find one too.
As soon as you said a higher stacked rebel 4 with a plate I canceled my pre order.
Lol sorry 😂 but it's accurate
Mach X2 on the list?
yes coming soon!
Yea 100 miles is full review, 30 miles is not. You have no clue how the foam really holds up.
Yo the running warehouse link goes to the asics meta speed edge. Do you have one for the sc trainer v3?
Thank you for catching that! Here you go www.runningwarehouse.com/New_Balance_FuelCell_SuperComp_Trainer_v3/descpage-N3SCTM1.html?from=supwell
I’ve put 700+ miles in the v1 and they are still bouncy and awesome but hard to find now- I hope the v3’s are like it? Anybody know?
Could you use the NB 1080 v13 (or 14) for the same purpose?
Will these be good for runners who been running for 6 months (newish)
In the US the sc trainer is $70 usd cheaper than the elite yet in Australia it is only $20 usd cheaper which from your review makes it sound like the sc trainer is not worth it at all!
yeah if there's only a $20 difference and you definitely want one of them i would 100% go for the race shoe
Dude, you will review the ultraboost 5x?
Yes coming soon! Stay tuned
@@supwell You are the best, I am waiting
Just bought and wore these. Very unremarkable.
Dang I'm sorry you didn't see this review before 😩 if you're going to return and are looking for alternatives my favorite plated trainers recently have been puma deviate nitro 3 and Asics magic speed 4. The puma is sturdy and great for everyday miles and longer runs with some bounce. And the Asics is a great pick if you want a soft and comfortable speed shoe. Hoka skyward x is my pick if you just want the bounciest and most exciting training shoe out there
really love your reviews (esp. this one), the work you put into them is incredible -- a quick question if you happen to read this: assuming budget is not an issue is there any reason why you would want to go with the 1080v13 vs the Balos?
(The 1080 is my current daily driver but with almost 800kms I'm looking to replace it, and I hesitate between a fresh new pair or just get the Balos when it's out 🤔)
Cheers from Belgium 🧇🍺
If you like the 1080 you'll prob like the balos as well. I do think the 1080 will have better durability given that the balos uses foam on most of the bottom instead of rubber. Also the balos is very soft - maybe even softer than the 1080 so keep that in mind! It's fun but for most people I'd suggest the more v5 as a 1080 replacement. It's more stable and a little easier on the feet/ankles because of that vs the balos - also cheaper by a good bit in the US
@@supwell Thanks so much for your insights (I did not even consider the more v5!). Keep the awesome work and let us know when europeans can order your awesome hat (and other awesome gear) :)
Superblast 2 pleease
Trying to get that one in soon - stay tuned!
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Hello yowana please can you help me which shoe springy bouncy cushion puma magmax nitro or new balance sc trainer v3 ????
If you're looking for the bounciest shoe out there I would check out the hoka skyward x and not either of those. Of those two though, The sc trainer v3 is lighter and has a little more bounce at faster pace. The magmax is more comfortable
Hello yowana why sc elite v4 more price than sc trainer v3 ??? What's the major difference??? .. and why in new balance site writing sc trainer v3 extra sot than sc elite v4????
The sc elite v4 uses a different foam than the sc trainer - the elite has a full race foam that is lighter, softer and bouncier. That's why it's more expensive
Can this shoes serve as all rounder including for race?
Yes definitely! It's a good option if you want one shoe to do everything
@@supwell thanks alot..really enjoyed your reviews about shoes👏
Deron Fork
The Rebel v4 has been so disappointing. The foam change has killed the unique, fun ride of the shoe. Will pass on this one despite loving v1 and liking v2.
You almost get attacked by Terrex 🐕 on your run?
I need my terrex to protect me!
What’s his promo code on running warehouse?
Here's my link for this shoe! www.runningwarehouse.com/New_Balance_FuelCell_SuperComp_Trainer_v3/descpage-N3SCTM1.html?from=supwell
Early overreaction (just finished prerun commentary): I think you don’t like this shoe but you are trying to be fair to the brand and its fans. We all hate being disappointed with boring feeling shoes but the tech keeps moving and shoes outside the top quartile will naturally underwhelm us
Neo Vista is the real SC Trainer v3
I've gotta put some more miles on that one soon! Didn't love it on first run but I've heard it's solid for slightly faster miles
I returned my neo vista. Too soft and mushy.
New Balance SC trainer V2 is terrible for me.. Will avoid V3 like the plague.
Most of the Premium Hoka lineup come in weirdly jarring Colorways, something I will be embarrassed to wear in public. For Gym treadmill, maybe it’s fine.
Yeah they always launch in super bright colors. But they dropped a few more muted color ways of the skyward x recently and have added some less aggressive colorways
Embarrassed to wear in public? They're running shoes. Lose the ego. You should be more embarrassed at the fact that you give so much weight to how you think others perceive you for something so insignificant.
It's hard to even watch this with how bad you say it is. Lol. Super disappointed this shoe is so firm and not exciting.
250€ in Europe. NB is a joker!
Love that colourway though shame the shoe is a bit Meh 🫤 hopefully the Topo Specter 2 might get some higher praise
Stay tuned for more testing on specter 2 very soon!