Anti photography St David’s Cardiff
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
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Just out doing a bit of Christmas shopping for the kids presents to be told I can not film or take photos in public by a tyrant, who made me leave the mall.
He requested I stop filming and I politely declined, he must of felt so idiotic he later calls the cops and makes false accusations about me. tut tut naughty security tyrant wannabe PIGGY.
The cops show up in Part 2 and make accusations that I am setting off alarms and that I am a terrorist.
Isn't it amazing how people lose their s%*t when one man has one camera, yet are blissfully ignorant of the thousands of camera's from councils/private corporations filming exactly the same thing! Time to 'wake up' , don't you think?
Mike Thomas who all have licences to do so fella it isn’t right a member of public going round recording with a camara for no good reason because I can assure you if I was in town and seen this cock and I happened to have my son and expect him to delete thavv tv footage you dunno what he’s doing with it what would his response be to me asking him to delete a video with my 1 year old son in it because his attitude in these videos would probably get the rest of whatever teeth he got left in his head knocked out
As an SIA-accredited instructor once said to me, "What people coming into the private security industry need to get straight in their heads is that while it's relatively easy to get a licence, it's just as easy to lose it by behaving like a twat towards members of the public. The industry really does not need those who see an SIA licence as a licence to bully, harass or assault others with impunity or without consequences."
Very well put👍
@@RightfulRecordings Thank you. But all credit must go to the SIA-accredited instructor who made that statement and put it so perfectly.
wow, it's like they time traveled from 1930 "what is that dangerous device you have sir?!"
Here's some Facts. Shopping centres & shopping malls, including all car parks and access points. are privately owned. therefore you need permission to film. If you have not got that permission, then security can ask you to stop photo/filming. If you refuse they can ask you to leave. If you still refuse, the have every right to eject you using reasonable force. It's no different than being refused entry or thrown out of a pub.
let me educate.
I don't know what country you are from but in the UK you are allowed to film in public FACT.
This is a PUBLIC shopping center NOT private FACT.
NO signs anywhere stating NO photography FACT.
Security can not use any force on anyone for a lawful activity FACT.
At what point did I give this bellend a reason to call the police?
was he really that upset that I told him no I will film and other than that I complied with his horrible order to leave.
And no its not the same as being thrown out of a pub/club at all, I mean did I look like I was walking around drunk slagging people off and groping women?
I'm sorry but you are wrong even if I had refused to leave and an officer came etc No force could be LEGALLY used.
Please research your laws.
If you can find your facts on the web please send me a link I will happily read or if you have some proof of your facts you would like to discuss, but most people like you will vanish and never be heard from again........
though I do hope not, Thanks for watching.
. I do know quite a bit on public photo/film and police stop/search. Before I reply, I don't know if you've seen Crimebodge YT channel. He explains and shows how corrupt the police are. and takes pleasure in is own words, "Suing the Arse off Them" The only places you are allowed to photo/film in the UK Supposably, free from interference is from a "Public right of Way" (Footpath, Bridleway, Street or Road) Ask yourself this question. Can you be banned from entering any shop or shopping centre or pub/nightclub??? That should give you a clue. People have been watching too many US 1st Amendment Audits and think we have the same rights on public photo/film. We Don't. This is the nearest to definitive explanation I have found, A response to an FOI request from PNLD (Police National Legal Database) included the following: Quote "The purpose of public order law (inclusive of the definition of ‘public place’) is to ensure that individual rights to freedom of speech / freedom of assembly are balanced against the rights of other persons to go about their daily lives unhindered.
It will not usually be necessary for an individual to obtain permission to take photographs, film or digital images in a public place. However, the issue will not always just fall on whether a particular location is deemed a ‘public place’, as there may be other restrictions which could also apply - meaning we would always advise that permission is sought, given the range of issues that could arise in particular situations.
For example, there may be instances where a location is deemed to be a public place, however a member of the public may still be very much restricted in their actions there, if a particular location (such as a shopping centre) has an intended business purpose. Whereas, in comparison, it would be much more difficult to argue that a public road has a business purpose, meaning there are unlikely to be any restrictions on taking photographs.
Additionally, if employees of the shopping centre have not granted their permission for an individual to be there / not aware of a photographers presence in the centre there is a risk of an individual being suspected of taking indecent photographs or committing terrorist offences, requiring police involvement. Also to note - many shopping centres have their own local policies on this matter so it is better to be certain of any potential restrictions prior to taking any actions.
Therefore, we would always advise (as stated on Ask the Police) that prior to taking photographs in such an environment, the management/security department of the location should be contacted beforehand to prevent any misunderstandings
@@protarget1 did you seriously just get that of ask the police website?
this still don't say its against the law it just says that we advise ADVISE that you ask permission, so why didn't he make me aware of this?
He asked me to leave though why? and remember i complied so why did he call the cops please answer me that????????
you do understand if you read through that it pretty much states that you can film in public lol
and I wasn't banned so and i'm still not really not sure what you are saying
and no matter how PRIVATE something is if it is open to the PUBLIC then it is PUBLIC....
yes they can make up rules you do not have to follow their rules.....
Yes expect to get removed for not following rules(which only this guy seems to say no filming, I have never seen NO photography signs)
You are still allowed to film
You are upset with me not following HIS orders but fine with him making up stories to plod and on the spot rules out of nowhere?
It's always interesting to see what Bullshit the police can come up with. If you want to see the best ever summing up of the police, you have to watch this you tube vid from Crimebodge. :-) ua-cam.com/video/u5vNrAmjaowR/v-deo.htmlemember the police even on public photography don't obey the law, the make it up. The problem in the UK. There's no written law to say you can film in public and no written laws to say you can. In the US, Freedom of the Press is written in their constitution. Even then, people were still being arrested for filming inside and outside federal (Public) buildings. It wasn't till 2010, and after many protests, and its mentioned many times in the 1st Amendment audits., they had to get written permission by means of a memo, which was sent out, by the DHS, then Poster 7 issued guide lines, allowing photo/film the outside of Federal buildings, also inside where the public were FREELY ALLOWED to be with no restrictions. In the UK. “WE DONT HAVE THAT PERMISSION. . Only Network Rail has granted that permission and welcomed photo/film, on their stations and where the public has are freely allowed, even then, then there are some restrictions. www.networkrail.co.uk/communities/railway-enthusiasts/guidelines-for-taking-photos-at-stations Again, there are no laws to say you can't "YOU ARE ALLOWED” The reason why? Its because of the millions of CCTV that sprung up over the years in the UK. It's accepted, there's no expectation of privacy in a public place. If there was some law brought out to restrict this because of privacy. Then all the CCTV cameras would all have to come down. Big Brother wouldn't allow that would they. In a nut shell, the only places you are allowed to Film/ Photograph without interference is from a "Public Right of Way" Footpath, bridleway and Street or road. But when the police get involved, as you know, they don't abide by the law ;-)
@@RightfulRecordings it not a public shopping centre though it is private property, so yes the public are allowed in, however, refusal can also be given should you not follow the rules, also suggests you look at the entranceway where you see the no filming and photo signs
I’m not taking any ones side, but as it was an enclosed shopping centre its private property with public access. You can be told to stop filming, also inside shops.
On the other hand the security guys were commenting harassment.
I agree but you don't have to comply they can ask you anything they like.
But they have no authority to force me or anyone to stop what they are doing.
Would you think it was OK if you were stopped from using a mobile in public but private shop or mall?
2:04 "Cameras Everywhere"
I remember in Meadowhall those cameras would zoom in on families eating in the court and put it on the big screen back in the 90s. Fun times.
All the while theifs operate with out being challenged
I challenge your spelling of 'thieves'.
In public you are fine to record however in a private building I don't think you can
Subscribed,...(came from Davy's) 😉
People need to Realise it's not against the law
Cardiff is such a beautiful city. I've visited a few times
I live in cardiff, lol.
I always film in shopping centres, just press record and put your phone in your shirt breast pocket. None of the security are any the wiser. I then send edited highlights to the shopping centre owners
It's private property. And what's with the way you're dressed 🙄
Isn't it funny how these self appointed auditors are so happy to film everyone else and put it on a public forum, yet won't show their identity
Got something to hide eh 🤔
Bad language by YOU at 3.30
The CCTV camera is strictly covered by data protection principles, has no audio and isn't uploaded to a global platform with impunity - it is vastly different.
How do you know it has no sound?
And what makes them so different they still do the same thing.
I assure you I see many cctv footage of things happening from private companies that is shared on the net.(even have some footage myself of things that was never meant to have been shared from body cams and cctv)
If the person in the camera room decides to share it what is stopping them...... GDPR and that is it.
Either way it is a publicly accessible place, so I used my camera and was in no way breaking any laws.
So do you think it's OK to make someone leave an area for doing a perfectly legal activity?
I could've just as easily covertly recorded and nobody would have known.
@@RightfulRecordings I know because I requested footage via SAR from the above shopping centre due to an assault last year.
Yes, there are many examples of CCTV that appear in various locations, BUT the point is that it isn't uploaded to UA-cam with impunity. Equally, you then ask what prevents anyone from doing anything contrary to legislation - clearly nothing. However, that isn't what is being discussed - the point is how does CCTV differ from a GoPro?
Yes, you could have recorded covertly, but you clearly have an agenda which wasn't just about recording images, it was about creating a stir for UA-cam hits.
Auditors have created a problem that never existed here in the UK. Their persistent desire to engineer scenarios that incite and provoke will ultimately lead to additional powers being granted to police. We even now have police advising the public to report suspicious behaviour with a camera and Criminal Behaviour Orders being issued just for filming. It can only end in tears and people such as your good self will be ultimately responsible. Your blinkered, short-sighted nonsense will erode and destroy freedoms, not maintain them.
@@Audit-The-Auditors if that is how you see it that is up to you, but I assure you all I was doing was out shopping and I recorded the whole thing..... I am not an auditor, though I must admit I am starting to think about auditing.
For over 2 hours prior to this I had walked round primark with nobody saying I could not film walked past many security and nothing.
If you go over to part 2 you will see why I was glad I recorded the whole thing, as the security who assured me he was there to protect us rang the police and made false allegations that I was setting off alarms.
now if I ever go back to that shit hole I will do exactly the same thing 1 because I do not trust the security there and 2 I am fully within my rights to do so until asked to leave.
Out of curiosity
How would you deem someone as using a camera suspiciously?
Does this mean they will be stopping people from using mobiles inside shops and malls?
I mean they are in a phone call but they could be recording, so they should stop anyone using electronic devices, including tablets, glasses, pens, hats.
@@RightfulRecordings You wear your intent openly with your UA-cam name, you are an 'auditor'.
Yet you attempt to convince me you were just out shopping doing what every UK shopper does, that well known and accepted practice of filming said shopping expedition?
How does any human being make a determination about anything?
'If a person is seen taking photos outside a police station/mosque/chemical factory/facility/military base then this should be reported to the police. Call 101 while it is happening or complete the 101 non-emergency form with a description of the person, time and date and why you think it was suspicious if it happened in the past. All calls/information will be taken seriously.'
www.devon-cornwall.police.uk/advice/your-community/taking-photographs-in-a-public-space/
@@Audit-The-Auditors oh and not many auditors actually provoke anything, people's feelings are there own, only you can control your feelings.
If you feel annoyed that someone is recording don't approach them, simple really.
I hate loads of things people do, but what they do is their buisness not mine as long as no-one is getting physically hurt if I want to record my day as I do everyday, why should anybody tell me no.
That dudes hair do though 😂
I got it mirrored. It’s loading now. Good on you both for being determined. I can see how dangerous the recording device is though. You really should be more civic minded 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍
Thanks Davy I appreciate that❤️
Just subscribed and I’m your 100th subscriber 😜, I’ve watched 2 of your vids so far and both are great, I will watch the rest later when I got time...... thanks for exercising our rights and trying to keep them intact 😎👍👌
Thanks much appreciated 👍
Great video. It's so unbelievable how the sheeple react. Their was an "auditor" in my local shopping centre last week, and the three "security" thugs surrounding him were amazed when I friendly shouted "Hi Mum - get my picture"
It's illegal to call people sheeple in Wales. I don't have to explain why, I'm sure.
There is no need for anyone to film in a shopping centre; just because you can, it doesn’t mean you should.
that is a sad response, sorry but it is.
why is there no need?
just because I can was not why I was.
just because you can is also a good reason.
common think about what you just said.......
Its like saying just just because you can use your phone in a shopping centre doesn't mean you should?
read a book?
draw a picture?
take notes?
there is no need to film me with there cctv but they do it any way?
Olivia , just because you CAN put a comment doesn't mean you should
Probably security guards wife!!!!!
Section 33 clearly accessible by the public so filming is allowed
This how it should work when they turn off surveillance cameras there's every right to for you to turn your off until that time happens the right to ask you but you know and I know that's not going to happen there is no privacy in public
Get a t-shirt made saying :you are under 24hr surveillance;😄
that is a very good idea, I might look into something like that.
Causing alarm and distress
I cant copy the video. ? even form the downloaded file you have included.
You don't have a right to film in a private place if you get told not to. Law is different in a public place. Then they wouldn't have anything on you but this freedom doesn't apply when on private property. You need to research the law
Bad language at 3.30 in a public place.
Making a scene like that in shops embarrassing
he put any1 else on cam but wont put his misses on
Quite ironic you blur out your friends but argue your right to film every1 else lol Get a life kid.
My video..... My choice, let me know when you got some content👍
@@RightfulRecordings If i did make content it wouldn't involve pissing off people who go out & work for a living. Sad prick.
Shop employee I know the law really that’s why you work in primark
a job of a security is to re port and obsorves they cant touch you
Wearing a mask dressed in your usual attention seeking action man outfit .What do expect it isn't just the bloody camera matey.
these security are crazy muppets who think they are god's because they have a LITTLE bit of responsibility.
Total muppets who complain about you filming in public
It's not because you got a camera it's because of the way you're dressed you honestly look for trouble Focus your energy on something positive
St David's is open to the public u can record any one in public
Tosser