I went to harbor freight and saw a tire balancer on clearance similar to yours for $28.97 before tax. Thanks to your video, I know how to use it now! Thank you!
There was a guy on UA-cam showing where usually stands the heaviest part of the tire itself and then the rim heaviest part is where the valve is. So I guess if I counter balance and put the heaviest part of the tire opposite to the valve, them I would need way less balance weights at the end
@@bulltivation7846 the valve stem isn't always the heaviest part. use the balancer to find the heaviest part and mark it with a red circle. then you just match the red circles everytime
Just a quick one, i was always advised to split the weights so they are equal, in your case 1/2 oz on each side of the rim opposite each other to maintain true balance on both rotation and also side movement.
If you're sending a machine to Mars, I'd say yes, split the weights. On my bike, nah, wrap a little solder around a spoke. I'd peel off that paper tag tho.... All joking aside, this is the best vid I've seen on this topic, and will recommend it to others.
This is the way we all did it when I was racing in the 90,s and it still works just fine today on my road bikes and dirt bikes ,yes the computer ones do a more accurate job but as long as you follow this vid you will be in the ball park ,good job.
Thanks for the video, I finally found someone that knows what they are doing. I have watched a ton of balancing videos and you are the first to use reasoning behind the amount of weight to start with. This validates the whole video ( for me anyway). You need to know the reason you do something ( unless you are 5 years old ,and then BECAUSE I SAID SO is enough). Just found your channel,and subscribed. Thanks again.
great video. Since i started riding 3 of my friends that ride have asked me how are my hands are handling the vibration. i told them i don't get any vibration and that all i feel is the engine buzzing. Turns out they had no idea motorcycle wheels needed to be balanced and all 3 of them had no weights on there wheels. Another friend of mine that has been riding for years told me to never take the wheel weights off. he said to leave them on when i change the tire and only get it balanced if it rides real rough with the new tire. i changed my front tire 3 weeks ago and the bike still rides real smooth..
Ideally you want the weight as close to the centerline of the rim as possible but I know the cast wheels don't always have a smooth spot in the middle for tape weights. In that case, no, just do as best you can. M/c wheels aren't all that wide to induce an imbalance side to side like car wheels or bigger do. Also for track riders put the weights on the flattest part of the wheel as well if using tape weights. I've had some smear off at high speed due to the centrifugal force on them.
Thank you for the feedback Neigal Cox, the tape stays. Most track day and racing organizations require that you tape over the wheel weights so they do not fall off on the track. All items are available on our website, you should be able to follow the link in the description above. Thanks! ~Aubrey
+Sportbike Track Gear is there any chance these weights can come off (from the front tire) and hit the radiator? what about on the road, should you keep the tape? temporarily ?
NoShadowOfDoubt1 That is a possibility but very unlikely. From a safety stand point I would probably tape the weights, you can never be too careful with things rotating at a high speed ;)
Great voice man, Radio Voice for sure... By the way, I am starting to get into balancing my own wheels and tires, I save so much time and money doing it on my own plus my friends help me when I need help and I balance their tires. Thanks for the video.
Great video! I was gonna replace my tires and bearings and take the wheels to a garage for balancing. Thought it would be to diffucult to do myself. But this video showed me that it is easy to do at home. Thanks !! :)
Thank you for putting this video out there so I see how this would matter a heck of a lot more on the track, especially at higher speeds now I have not balanced my own wheels personally but then again I am writing a very small motorcycle that has a top speed of like around 60 miles an hour andI couldn’t feel anything out of place but going forward I figure that probably balancing the tires is ultimately probably a good idea so I’m going to do that thank you
Hey! I found a question! You just did a perfect balance weight… and you also glued extra weight on wheels one side!!! Should you split this weight to both wheel sides left and right?😮
If the assembly only requires a small amount of weight I will put it all on one side. For those which require more weight I will split it in half and fix one to each side. - Van
Thank you for watching the video. We replace our tires more frequently than street riders, sometimes as much as 4 sets a weekend. For that reason the best solution for us is to use a traditional method of wheel balancing. - Van
In certain situations maybe.. You can see how far the wheel itself is out of balance, if its not then there is not advantage obviously. If there is you can match the heavy spot of the tire (usually marked with paint dot) directly opposite the heavy spot of the rim to make it easier to balance out (less weights).
I have spent so much money on minor repairs. Im now coming to the point where I realize that I should be able to do all the routine maintenance on my bike myself. Thanks for helping me learn to save a little bit of money time and stress.
Yes, the closest you can keep the wheel to how it will be when on the bike, the closer and more accurate your balance will be. All of that is fixed to the wheel and adds to rotational mass, so by balancing it with that on, it effectively balances it as a whole.
though this video is 10yrs ago, it is still very useful for me, thank you for making this video, i am about to get one of the balancer. At 03:48 your weight is about 3in to the right of your marking. Is that the way to do it? And also what weight should i have in stock?
I just use the box of weights, they aren't all that expensive or you could use duct tape. The only one we sell is more than what you are looking to spend but I have heard of people using the Harbor Freight one without issues. ~Aubrey
Hey, I love this video and am seriously considering this as an option for tyre installation going forward, tho I am curious to know if the side of the wheel you attach weight to matters?
Strange question perhaps? With the chain not attached to the rear sprocket, and the brake disconnected from the rear tire, and the bike on its center stand can this be done on the bike. Is it possible to balance the rear tire on the bike using its own axle. Will it spin freely enough?
That would be a ton of work to balance a tire. Not sure if that would spin freely enough to get a good result. The balancer has its own bearings on top of those in the wheel. - Van
If you need a lot of weight to get the assembly in balance you can split the weights and put half on each side. If it does not require much weight just put them on one side and send it. - Van
Nice and simple. Only one question.. Why don't you remove the big tyre sticker before balancing? It doesn't weight much but it sure does have some effect
A: if I were to get one weight, what weight should I get? 1/8oz 1/4oz or 1/2oz if I were to choose one? B: What are your thoughts on safety wire spring clips? Use or don't use?
End of the day any of those sizes will work, you can always cut the 1/2 oz down if needed. I do not use the clips but many others do and like them. - Van
Probably a dumb question but what is the purpose of balancing tires ? Is it really necessary say for someone who rides street ? My bike doesn’t have any of those stick on weights on the rim and I’ve been riding fine but I just found out about this.
Wouldn't need to do this if tire companies had a higher standard of ensuring rubber was balanced somehow. And that red balancer would be nice if it had some laser to help mark the tire verse "eye-balling" it. Still a great video.
Great video I was wondering does the tape stay on there or are you just putting on to hold the weights in place for a certain amount of time before you remove it and is there somewhere where i can purchase the weights as well as that balancing machine that you used I like simple
No the wheel needs to be removed to balance it. For auto's there are "on the car" style balances out there, but I do not believe there are any for motos. End of the day it is super easy to remove the wheel so that is best practice. - Brian Van
The adhesive is strong and you have centrifugal force on your side. As long as the wheel was cleaned properly before attaching the weight it will stay in place. - Van
@@ViezeVingertjes I think not.. because the heaviest part was exactly across the spot he marked.. That's why he only put the weights on the marked spot. If he was to put more weights on the place you guys mention.. he would just dis-balance the tire again..
Nice video man. Now gotta watch one how to mount my own tires and I’ll be set! That’s too easy for me to pay someone $100 each ($200 total) my whole life. I guess tape and the sticker on the wheel doesn’t weigh anything?
Just curious, why are wheel weights only on one side of the wheel, once you find out how much weight it takes can't you divide that in half and put equal amounts on both sides of the wheel? Why would you want all the weight on one side of the wheel instead of equally distributed on both sides. Thanks for your help if anyone knows.
If it takes a lot of weight then we will split it over the 2 sides. In this case there was so little there is no point as there will be no notable difference. - Van
How do you feel about those tire balancing beads? I know on a track they'd be useless because of the speeds being run and how that deforms the tire, but for regular street use.
+Ryan K i was thinking the same thing, maybe he just got lazy. I'm sure if it was his wheel he would have split the weights and put them evenly on both sides of the wheel...
+Ryan K It doesn't matter really, by this balancing method only static balance(radial) can be achieved... to dynamically balance the wheel (both radial and side force) this method cannot be used.
thanks! just replaced a tire which had a nail through tread and sidewall and estimate for balance $30. so I turn to youtube to get the story and bingo! now how do I inspect my own bikes to avoid that hassle?...
The weights we are using now are 1/8 oz segments. If the wheel needs more than 4 segments I like to split the total putting half on each side of the wheel. - Van
Ive balance stacks of car tyres have you ever found swapping the weights in the same spot to the left or right side make a difference.... id expect track wheels to be in better shape than road wheels obviously smashing bad bumps and potholes will knock the wheel out of shape ?
For sure there are no real potholes on the track like riders will find on the street. That said odds are the wheels would be in better condition. - Van
I just put on a new front Dunlop q3 on my 09 Gsxr, so from coming you is it highly recommend that I balance the front tire? I got on the free way and got up to about 110 and it shakes not to violently but I can definitely notice the difference I know that should answer my question or could it be something else??
After mounting my rear tire the light spot mark on the tire is a half inch away from the heavy spot on the rim. Guess it moved during the process. Is that okay?
I want to know if it matters what side of the rim you place the weights, I have no experience with balancing wheels on motorbikes but I've seen how they are done on cars and the wheel balancer machine will tell the tech which side of the rim the weights need to be placed. Should the same principle apply?
With a motorcycle wheel, it's common practice to just mount it at the center of the rim, for the light spot that needs the weight. Motorcycle physics characteristics differ from 4 wheel machines in that they use a gyroscopic effect as well as have a changing contact patch based on lean angle that uses a concaved profile unlike the cars flat even contact patch. Also because motorcycle wheels are usually narrower, it matters even less. I'm sure someone much more intelligent can explain it much better and mre scientifically accurate, but I hope that answer helps a little.
can bike tires be dynamically balanced like on cars? I have a professional corghi wheel balance at home that you can use on bikes but just never bothered. I think I need to get an attachment for motorcycle wheels
You could try to clean them off and see where that leaves you. Personally if it is a lot I would replace them before taking the chance. Crashing is expensive. - Van
Question. No one seems to do anything to hold the bearing spacer in place. I have noticed the spacer moves and alters the balance making it a moving target. As the spacer moves it alters the balance. I'm experimenting with balancing with the axle assembly together to hold the spacer in place. Any comments?
When you tighten up the adapter cones on the rod you need to push them inward and hold them to get everything centered. This is a proven process, no need to make any changes IMO. - Van
How can you reuse the oem weights? Do you need some adhesive spray? I have a box of weights. If I can reuse them, then the box will last longer. I am looking into getting the tire balancer similar to yours but from Harbor Freight. Is theirs good or what you recommend around $40? Thank you for the video.
Man you had it 100% balanced better than a machine 🤣 I always get a very very slight move that’s how I know it’s 90% balanced Next time I’m gonna use your patience if you don’t mind
That is another way to do it. With a balancing stand you have the bearings on the stand so it will be more sensitive and rotate easier making the end result more accurate. - Van
I just had new tires put on my bike. I just noticed the techs put on some lead strip weights; 1 strip on both sides of the back rim, and 1 strip on the left side of the front rim. The ride felt awkwardly heavier, but I'm not so sure if it's more so because of the new tires. Or is it the weights? I was also wondering if I remove these strips (they didn't clean the area of the rims they put the strips on) so that I can clean my rims first, what can I use to re-apply the lead strips. And am I going to strip the paint/color off the rim if I try to remove the strips?
C LeSaca Those are the wheel weights that are used to balance the tire and wheel as a unit. Do not remove them, if you do the bike will vibrate while riding. Removing them should not damage the wheel or the paint. - Van
Standard practice on tires that have a dot is to line it up with the valve stem. With good tires you will not typically see a very big difference in placement IMO. - Van
What if you don't have a static balancer? I heard that the red dot on the sidewall of the tire needs to be lined up with the valve stem and leave the factory wheel weight in its current position and it should be balanced. How true is that?
I am new to turning my own wrench on my bike, but not new to turning wrenches. I hear a lot about dynamic balancing versus static balancing. How does static balancing hold up on the track?
In the video it used multiple weights. Is there any benefit to splitting the weights between the 2 sides of the wheel. ie 2 weights on each side instead of 4 weights on the same side. THX
I went to harbor freight and saw a tire balancer on clearance similar to yours for $28.97 before tax. Thanks to your video, I know how to use it now! Thank you!
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
Before I seat the bead. I balance the rim and tire together. Moving the tire on the rim. A lot of times you can eliminate 1/2 of the weights.
That's a solid idea! - Van
Smart. I'd use a red marker. Shows up better on the tire.
There was a guy on UA-cam showing where usually stands the heaviest part of the tire itself and then the rim heaviest part is where the valve is. So I guess if I counter balance and put the heaviest part of the tire opposite to the valve, them I would need way less balance weights at the end
@@bulltivation7846 the valve stem isn't always the heaviest part. use the balancer to find the heaviest part and mark it with a red circle. then you just match the red circles everytime
best balancing video out there. thanks for taking the time to film it.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words. - Van
Just a quick one, i was always advised to split the weights so they are equal, in your case 1/2 oz on each side of the rim opposite each other to maintain true balance on both rotation and also side movement.
I will split them if it takes more than six segments typically. End of the day I do not think this will make any notable difference. - Van
If you're sending a machine to Mars, I'd say yes, split the weights.
On my bike, nah, wrap a little solder around a spoke.
I'd peel off that paper tag tho....
All joking aside, this is the best vid I've seen on this topic, and will recommend it to others.
This is the way we all did it when I was racing in the 90,s and it still works just fine today on my road bikes and dirt bikes ,yes the computer ones do a more accurate job but as long as you follow this vid you will be in the ball park ,good job.
Wow that was easy. I’ll be balancing my own tires from now on, thanks!
No worries, thanks for watching! - Van
What balance stand have you used for your tires?
Thanks for the video, I finally found someone that knows what they are doing. I have watched a ton of balancing videos and you are the first to use reasoning behind the amount of weight to start with. This validates the whole video ( for me anyway). You need to know the reason you do something ( unless you are 5 years old ,and then BECAUSE I SAID SO is enough). Just found your channel,and subscribed. Thanks again.
Thank you for the kind words and for watching! - Van
great video.
Since i started riding 3 of my friends that ride have asked me how are my hands are handling the vibration. i told them i don't get any vibration and that all i feel is the engine buzzing. Turns out they had no idea motorcycle wheels needed to be balanced and all 3 of them had no weights on there wheels.
Another friend of mine that has been riding for years told me to never take the wheel weights off. he said to leave them on when i change the tire and only get it balanced if it rides real rough with the new tire. i changed my front tire 3 weeks ago and the bike still rides real smooth..
Ideally you want the weight as close to the centerline of the rim as possible but I know the cast wheels don't always have a smooth spot in the middle for tape weights. In that case, no, just do as best you can. M/c wheels aren't all that wide to induce an imbalance side to side like car wheels or bigger do. Also for track riders put the weights on the flattest part of the wheel as well if using tape weights. I've had some smear off at high speed due to the centrifugal force on them.
Thank you for the feedback Neigal Cox, the tape stays. Most track day and racing organizations require that you tape over the wheel weights so they do not fall off on the track. All items are available on our website, you should be able to follow the link in the description above. Thanks! ~Aubrey
+Sportbike Track Gear is there any chance these weights can come off (from the front tire) and hit the radiator? what about on the road, should you keep the tape? temporarily ?
NoShadowOfDoubt1 That is a possibility but very unlikely. From a safety stand point I would probably tape the weights, you can never be too careful with things rotating at a high speed ;)
Great voice man, Radio Voice for sure... By the way, I am starting to get into balancing my own wheels and tires, I save so much time and money doing it on my own plus my friends help me when I need help and I balance their tires. Thanks for the video.
Best balancing video Ive found. Thank you.
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Van is the man with a master plan!
CycleCruza think you better recognize!
Let's go for a ride!
I see you gots them bars!!
Thanks for the video's Mr. Brian Van.... I just love reading and commenting on some of these intelligent comments people leave under your video's :)
You are welcome and thank you for the support! - Van
Great video! I was gonna replace my tires and bearings and take the wheels to a garage for balancing. Thought it would be to diffucult to do myself. But this video showed me that it is easy to do at home. Thanks !! :)
Thank you for putting this video out there so I see how this would matter a heck of a lot more on the track, especially at higher speeds now I have not balanced my own wheels personally but then again I am writing a very small motorcycle that has a top speed of like around 60 miles an hour andI couldn’t feel anything out of place but going forward I figure that probably balancing the tires is ultimately probably a good idea so I’m going to do that thank you
Hey! I found a question! You just did a perfect balance weight… and you also glued extra weight on wheels one side!!! Should you split this weight to both wheel sides left and right?😮
If the assembly only requires a small amount of weight I will put it all on one side. For those which require more weight I will split it in half and fix one to each side. - Van
I bought the Motion Pro Axis balancer. They should have you do the tutorial video on their product. 👍🏾
For sure Motion Pro makes some excellent tools. - Van
Great video, just watched how to install a new tire as well. I've always wondered what that little metal piece was on my spoke. Thanks!
Hello. Did you ever use balancing beads and what were your results? Thank you for a very professional video
Thank you for watching the video. We replace our tires more frequently than street riders, sometimes as much as 4 sets a weekend. For that reason the best solution for us is to use a traditional method of wheel balancing. - Van
You can't use balancing beads in tubed tires
Should I leave the cush drive on when balancing my rear wheel? Also, when installing a new rotor, should I rebalance a wheel? Thanks.
In certain situations maybe.. You can see how far the wheel itself is out of balance, if its not then there is not advantage obviously. If there is you can match the heavy spot of the tire (usually marked with paint dot) directly opposite the heavy spot of the rim to make it easier to balance out (less weights).
You found the video your looking for the basic method tested and true . No dragging it out (no pun intended) or over explaining it .
Happy to hear it was helpful and thanks for watching! - Van
This is awesome! I knew what balancing was for, but I never knew it was such as simple process to do! great vid.
great job. I m buying one of these tomorrow! thank you!
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
I have spent so much money on minor repairs. Im now coming to the point where I realize that I should be able to do all the routine maintenance on my bike myself. Thanks for helping me learn to save a little bit of money time and stress.
Thank you for the feedback and watching our video. I am glad we could help! ~Aubrey
Great video for the front. How about the rear? Leave sprocket and cush drives in?
Yes, the closest you can keep the wheel to how it will be when on the bike, the closer and more accurate your balance will be. All of that is fixed to the wheel and adds to rotational mass, so by balancing it with that on, it effectively balances it as a whole.
though this video is 10yrs ago, it is still very useful for me, thank you for making this video, i am about to get one of the balancer. At 03:48 your weight is about 3in to the right of your marking. Is that the way to do it? And also what weight should i have in stock?
Just order a pack of the Motion Pro Wheel Weights. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-steel-wheel-weights/
best video tutor yet on properly aligning tires and wheels after installation.
Wouldn't it have been smart to remove the tire label and trim access rubber before balancing?
Sir please stay off of anything with a motor and or wheel's.... Thank you
Yes
@@raydolinger1980 LOL
Ray Dolinger lmao
@@raydolinger1980 lol... Well said
Still going strong! Great video man💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you for watching! - Van
What about the back wheel? Balance with or without the sprocket carrier?
Hola, muy buena tu explicacion como balancear el nuematico. Gracias
I just use the box of weights, they aren't all that expensive or you could use duct tape. The only one we sell is more than what you are looking to spend but I have heard of people using the Harbor Freight one without issues. ~Aubrey
Hey, I love this video and am seriously considering this as an option for tyre installation going forward, tho I am curious to know if the side of the wheel you attach weight to matters?
Simple and very effective
Agreed
I wold do this.Can there be a secondary imbalance?
If you balance the tire and wheel as shown here you will be good to go, nothing more needs to be done. - Van
Strange question perhaps? With the chain not attached to the rear sprocket, and the brake disconnected from the rear tire, and the bike on its center stand can this be done on the bike. Is it possible to balance the rear tire on the bike using its own axle. Will it spin freely enough?
That would be a ton of work to balance a tire. Not sure if that would spin freely enough to get a good result. The balancer has its own bearings on top of those in the wheel. - Van
Do you know if the bubble wheel balancers are as accurate as these? Or would you just recommend this type?
IMO this is the way to go if you want to balance your own motorcycle wheels. - Van
Is it normal to have external wheel Balancer in newly purchased bike?
I am not really sure what you are asking here. You should only really need to balance the tires on your bike when you are replacing them. - Van
if the rim does not allow to stick weights right in the center one can split the total weight and stick half on each side
If you need a lot of weight to get the assembly in balance you can split the weights and put half on each side. If it does not require much weight just put them on one side and send it. - Van
Can or should you dynamic balance a bike tire vs traditional static balancing. I ask because I have an auto balance with bike balancing function.
If you have a machine use that, no machine use the static balancer. - Van
At what speed would you notice things ate amiss supposing you didn't balance correctly?
Depends on how far out. Most likely freeway speeds. - Van
Nice and simple. Only one question.. Why don't you remove the big tyre sticker before balancing? It doesn't weight much but it sure does have some effect
A: if I were to get one weight, what weight should I get? 1/8oz 1/4oz or 1/2oz if I were to choose one?
B: What are your thoughts on safety wire spring clips? Use or don't use?
End of the day any of those sizes will work, you can always cut the 1/2 oz down if needed.
I do not use the clips but many others do and like them. - Van
Great little tutorial on basic wheel balancing, cheers mate :-)
Probably a dumb question but what is the purpose of balancing tires ? Is it really necessary say for someone who rides street ? My bike doesn’t have any of those stick on weights on the rim and I’ve been riding fine but I just found out about this.
You will only need to balance the tires when they are replaced on a street bike. This is a good question. - Van
If you peel off the sticker, the sticky residue left behind will aid in traction! LOL
A little extra grip never hurts. - Van
Thank you very much for this video.
Wouldn't need to do this if tire companies had a higher standard of ensuring rubber was balanced somehow. And that red balancer would be nice if it had some laser to help mark the tire verse "eye-balling" it. Still a great video.
I have been balancing tires like this for years and feel this is more than adequate. Thanks for watching. - Van
Great video, thanks very well explained
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Thank you for the video , very clear explanation
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Great video I was wondering does the tape stay on there or are you just putting on to hold the weights in place for a certain amount of time before you remove it and is there somewhere where i can purchase the weights as well as that balancing machine that you used I like simple
The side you put the weights doesnt matter ? Like it is better on the right or left side ?
If you will need to use 7 wheel weight segments or more I will split them between the two sides. 6 or under just put them on one side. - Van
Too many thanks för your clearly explanation!. am asking if its posibel to do same Balance when the wheel istalled on the Motorcykel???????????
No the wheel needs to be removed to balance it. For auto's there are "on the car" style balances out there, but I do not believe there are any for motos. End of the day it is super easy to remove the wheel so that is best practice. - Brian Van
And haw about the direktion of the tire , the arrow dose not matter for which direktion?????
How do the weights stay on the tire , is the adhesive that strong , also what happens if one of the weight flys off ? Thank you for your time
The adhesive is strong and you have centrifugal force on your side. As long as the wheel was cleaned properly before attaching the weight it will stay in place. - Van
You sir should not be riding a motorcycle....
hi..should we put the weight on both sides? left & right side of the rims?
4 years too late, but yes, in this case there are 4 of the same amount of weight, just divide it into two and put it on both sides.
@@ViezeVingertjes I think not.. because the heaviest part was exactly across the spot he marked.. That's why he only put the weights on the marked spot. If he was to put more weights on the place you guys mention.. he would just dis-balance the tire again..
Lets just over complicate everything, never actually do it.
I also use CounterAct Glass Beads... As the Tire Wears down from its initial balance the Beads will keep it Balanceed.
do you need to put tape on it? that seems really ghetto
If you are riding on the street you can leave it. Riding on the track you will need to have duct tape over the wheel weights to pass tech. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear I was wondering that too. I dont ride on the track and Ive never seen ductape over the wheelweights
where can we get one of those handy balance stands
Here is a link to one on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/bikemaster-wheel-balancer/ - Van
Cool seeing you did this eight years ago to! Knew something was off when I first started watching 😆 great info as always Van!
We have been doing these videos for a long time now. Thanks for watching! - Van
What's the best way to line up the DOT logo?
For tire brands that have a dot on the sidewall you need to get this as close to the valve stem as possible when you mount the tire. - Van
Nice video man. Now gotta watch one how to mount my own tires and I’ll be set! That’s too easy for me to pay someone $100 each ($200 total) my whole life. I guess tape and the sticker on the wheel doesn’t weigh anything?
The tape will not have any real influence on the balance. - Van
Just curious, why are wheel weights only on one side of the wheel, once you find out how much weight it takes can't you divide that in half and put equal amounts on both sides of the wheel? Why would you want all the weight on one side of the wheel instead of equally distributed on both sides. Thanks for your help if anyone knows.
If it takes a lot of weight then we will split it over the 2 sides. In this case there was so little there is no point as there will be no notable difference. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Thank you for that info and the video👍
How do you feel about those tire balancing beads? I know on a track they'd be useless because of the speeds being run and how that deforms the tire, but for regular street use.
I have never used them so I really do not have an opinion. IMO standard balance is the way to go. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Mine too, I was just curious.
Very good video what brand is the static balancer thanks .
Jorge Alberto That is a Handy I believe. In the end they are all pretty similar. We have several on the site. - Van
How does this compare to using a speed machine?
You can get an excellent result with this method. This is all we use. - Van
Any reason you don't split the weights on left and right side of the wheels? Instead of putting all the weights on just the one side?
*Edit* Nevermind, misread your comment.
+Ryan K i was thinking the same thing, maybe he just got lazy. I'm sure if it was his wheel he would have split the weights and put them evenly on both sides of the wheel...
+Ryan K It doesn't matter really, by this balancing method only static balance(radial) can be achieved... to dynamically balance the wheel (both radial and side force) this method cannot be used.
thanks! just replaced a tire which had a nail through tread and sidewall and estimate for balance $30. so I turn to youtube to get the story and bingo! now how do I inspect my own bikes to avoid that hassle?...
Sorry we do not have any state inspections here in MI. That said I am not familiar with any of the inspections some of the states do have. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear you just answered / solved another problem, move to MI- hahaha
Do you use 5gm wheel weights? My OEMs were 10g's. Current tires have eight 5g tape weights. Seems excessive!!
The weights we are using now are 1/8 oz segments. If the wheel needs more than 4 segments I like to split the total putting half on each side of the wheel. - Van
Ive balance stacks of car tyres have you ever found swapping the weights in the same spot to the left or right side make a difference.... id expect track wheels to be in better shape than road wheels obviously smashing bad bumps and potholes will knock the wheel out of shape ?
For sure there are no real potholes on the track like riders will find on the street. That said odds are the wheels would be in better condition. - Van
Very informative Brian ... Do you guys sell that red tire balancer mount, along with the thing that went thru the axle??
Thanks mate.
I just put on a new front Dunlop q3 on my 09 Gsxr, so from coming you is it highly recommend that I balance the front tire? I got on the free way and got up to about 110 and it shakes not to violently but I can definitely notice the difference I know that should answer my question or could it be something else??
+Jorge Moran Yes you would balance the tire and wheel anytime you replace the tire. - Van
Wonderful thank you
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Do you want to have the rear sprocket and carrier on the wheel when balancing the rear tire?
odd mine bike shop doesnt balance mine bike wheels after tyre change , is it a sop ?
Does the wheel rotate on it's own bearings or is the axle u put in rotating along with the wheel?
A mix of the bearings on the wheel and the bearings on the balancer. - Van
Thanks for the answer. Found out we have a balancing machine at work so will give that a try first.
Nice job, thanks
Hey Brian , what do you think about Dyna beads for balancing?
I just heard they get the job done nicely. Im still deciding whether to go that route or stick with static balancing.. what have you used?
Nice video... Does it matter that you put all of the weights on one side of the rim? ( right v.s left )
Shouldn't matter at all. Thanks for watching!
Sportbike Track Gear Cool. Thanks for saving me some money. Thank you.
No problem!
JustSomeGuy Thanks for watching out video!
After mounting my rear tire the light spot mark on the tire is a half inch away from the heavy spot on the rim. Guess it moved during the process. Is that okay?
When you're balancing a rear wheel, do you do it with the cushdrive and sprocket on or off? Or doesn't it matter?
I want to know if it matters what side of the rim you place the weights, I have no experience with balancing wheels on motorbikes but I've seen how they are done on cars and the wheel balancer machine will tell the tech which side of the rim the weights need to be placed. Should the same principle apply?
With a motorcycle wheel, it's common practice to just mount it at the center of the rim, for the light spot that needs the weight. Motorcycle physics characteristics differ from 4 wheel machines in that they use a gyroscopic effect as well as have a changing contact patch based on lean angle that uses a concaved profile unlike the cars flat even contact patch. Also because motorcycle wheels are usually narrower, it matters even less. I'm sure someone much more intelligent can explain it much better and mre scientifically accurate, but I hope that answer helps a little.
can bike tires be dynamically balanced like on cars? I have a professional corghi wheel balance at home that you can use on bikes but just never bothered. I think I need to get an attachment for motorcycle wheels
What do u do if u get shit ton of oil on your bran new tires
You could try to clean them off and see where that leaves you. Personally if it is a lot I would replace them before taking the chance. Crashing is expensive. - Van
This is the best way to do it in my opinion
Question. No one seems to do anything to hold the bearing spacer in place. I have noticed the spacer moves and alters the balance making it a moving target. As the spacer moves it alters the balance. I'm experimenting with balancing with the axle assembly together to hold the spacer in place. Any comments?
When you tighten up the adapter cones on the rod you need to push them inward and hold them to get everything centered. This is a proven process, no need to make any changes IMO. - Van
How can you reuse the oem weights? Do you need some adhesive spray? I have a box of weights. If I can reuse them, then the box will last longer. I am looking into getting the tire balancer similar to yours but from Harbor Freight. Is theirs good or what you recommend around $40? Thank you for the video.
Thank you video teaching and i tell you, the yamaha repair guide of wheel balance step same this video step.
Man you had it 100% balanced better than a machine 🤣 I always get a very very slight move that’s how I know it’s 90% balanced
Next time I’m gonna use your patience if you don’t mind
This method will get you the results you need. - Van
I use jack stands and the shaft
That is another way to do it. With a balancing stand you have the bearings on the stand so it will be more sensitive and rotate easier making the end result more accurate. - Van
I just had new tires put on my bike. I just noticed the techs put on some lead strip weights; 1 strip on both sides of the back rim, and 1 strip on the left side of the front rim. The ride felt awkwardly heavier, but I'm not so sure if it's more so because of the new tires. Or is it the weights?
I was also wondering if I remove these strips (they didn't clean the area of the rims they put the strips on) so that I can clean my rims first, what can I use to re-apply the lead strips. And am I going to strip the paint/color off the rim if I try to remove the strips?
C LeSaca Those are the wheel weights that are used to balance the tire and wheel as a unit. Do not remove them, if you do the bike will vibrate while riding. Removing them should not damage the wheel or the paint. - Van
How do you mount the tire with the white dot in relation to the valve stem & core to minimize weights needed?
Standard practice on tires that have a dot is to line it up with the valve stem. With good tires you will not typically see a very big difference in placement IMO. - Van
Great video
Thanks for watching! - Van
What if you don't have a static balancer? I heard that the red dot on the sidewall of the tire needs to be lined up with the valve stem and leave the factory wheel weight in its current position and it should be balanced. How true is that?
Muy buenos tus videos, una sugerencia estaría bueno que pusieras la traducción al español
I am new to turning my own wrench on my bike, but not new to turning wrenches. I hear a lot about dynamic balancing versus static balancing. How does static balancing hold up on the track?
thanks seems to easy
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Awesome ,how do you know which side the weights goes? thanks
Either side works, get it as close to the center point of the wheel as possible is best practice. - Brian Van
In the video it used multiple weights. Is there any benefit to splitting the weights between the 2 sides of the wheel. ie 2 weights on each side instead of 4 weights on the same side. THX