It was super easy. The fork springs that was a little more difficult. But I can tell you they make a huge difference. I will be doing a review. I don’t know if you saw the spring install video I did.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Carl! It took me a year but I finally got these shocks and installed em on my Iron 883. Just wanted to say that this video really helped me out and I will be sure to credit you on my install video!
@@KSMotoCafe im at work but got to check out first half of your video. I will watch the rest tonight. I am sure you will love them especially getting the longer ones. Ride safe and thanks for the Recognition.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl aw man thanks! yeah this video you have is the only one that gave me a clear confidence that I could do it and also to look out for that extra washer. Thanks again and ride safe!
Impact gun Sure makes it ALOT EASIER 💪👍 the stock length 11.5" suck ! No suspension TRAVEL I went with the 13" 412's and my back is still thanking me !!!🤣
The original shocks actually were fine. But I heard these were better so I figured I would give them a try. They make them in different sizes so you can get more travel on them. Thanks for watching snd commenting.
The heaviest I have had is like 65 kg on the back so I don’t have a definite answer for you. Thanks for watching. Only thing I could say is if I was going to try them I would definitely get the longer shocks with more travel if it was me.
I just changed my Progressive 412's out. I got the standard springs at the stock length. I installed some Legends 13" shocks with a set of nice 1" lowering blocks. These are expensive but worth the cost. My 1200 Iron rides so much more comfortable and it doesn't have the much more of a lean on the side stand. I'll be putting my Progressive's up for sell at a very reasonable price. I was so dissatisfied with the stock length Progressives.
Awesome upgrade Carl. I was thinking to go exact shocks as yours. 412 heavy 11”. Was wondering if 11”, do the tyres or the swingarm touches the rear fender or the oil tank respectively, at any point? If so, u mentioned u’d go for longer ones, due to that reason or riding position?
I only think the longer ones would be better because it does give it more distance from bottoming out. I am not sure where it makes contact when it bottoms out but with my stock shocks when not set correctly the bike bottomed out alot. I wish the dealers would spend more time setting up the bikes for people on delivery because some people don’t have the knowledge to do it and they ride the bike like that and it’s not right. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Nice install, they look real good. Try not to use extensions if you're worried about correct torque. If you have to use one and you are concerned about the proper torque numbers then it's nice to have a torque analyzer.
In my experience any sort of extensions or adapters or cat claws will effect the torque. We always used a torque analyzer even with no attachments at all in my field (it was a requirement) The listed torque on the handle also is rarely what the wrench is putting out. Anything added just exasperates that as well. it's not that big of a deal thou. Many billions of bolts have been installed just fine. That's why I said "if you're worried about correct torque". I myself, in the home environment rarely use a torque wrench on anything. Just Head bolts and critical items. If not, the ol hand and brain method do a pretty good job in my opinion. No biggie, but something I have seen and experienced hands on.
@@dualsportdiary1150 Thanks for the info I am always open to learn new things. I know most people don’t even torque anything. I have a tendency to overtighten thats why I started using it. Thanks for watching and the information
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl ha! That's me. I love snapping heads off bolts! I'm very good at it. 😁 That's why I don't worry about torque at home, I KNOW it's tight enough after my gorilla hands touch it.
I hope you enjoy this video and it helps if you decide to upgrade your shocks. Full Review of the upgraded suspension and other accessories to come with some warmer weather. Thanks for Watching and if you have not already please SUBSCRIBE!!!
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl it’s a 3/4” anyway I turn my Sporster 48 for a softail slim s 2016. I ‘ll continue following you… you bring always important information
HI, I also want to change my stock suspensions, i got 412 heavy duty and it's good to know the torque values, very important ( thanks for that :) ) I also want to change all the engine bolts ( black ) but I don't know the torque values for ( pulley cover- timing gear cover- primary chain case- tappet blocks- rocker cover ) If you can help me with torque values for all these I will really appreciate. I have a HD 48 2019. Thanks mate !!!
Hi Carl , great video helped me a lot will be installing my 412's on my 2013 Custom 1200 CB Sportster soon (Liverpool UK) did you post a ride result seem to have missed that just wondering what the difference was from stock units kind regards Dave.
Smoother ride and less bottoming out. If I could do one thing different I would by them one or 2 sizes longer than stock to even give them more travel so you could soften the spring a bit
Did the same with my 1976 Ironhead, but 14.5 ,vast improvement! Whole different bike between the 412 shocks and new Progressive Suspension spring kit!!!
Was looking at the 412's as well but after further research and weighing a woping 140lbs, think I'm gonna bite the bullet and go with Legends or Pro - Actions.
They made a big difference. If I had to change anything I would have bought the longer ones to give them a bit more travel. I believe I bought them off the progressive website.
I ordered the stock equivalent. If I had to do it again I would order the slightly longer ones to get a little more travel in them. But they definitely make the ride more comfortable than the stock ones.
I can’t wait for spring so I can get out and give them a good test and the progressive fork springs I installed. Thanks for watching I really appreciate it.
Hey Carl. Please did you get a chance to try this shocks? I'm looking to replace my shocks on the xl1200t to 14 inch. To rise a bit the bike and increase the lean angle and ride more comfortable 2up. Thank you for the work.
I have gone out around the block when I first installed them. Really not enough for a true review. We have quite a bit of snow ice and salt now. I probably won’t get out till end of March now and it doesn’t make me happy. Can’t wait to move!
No it’s about the same. If i had to do it over I think I would get the slightly longer ones for a little more travel. Those may raise the ride a little.
Thanks Tim just as long as it doesn’t snow and I get a day a bit above freezing I may sneak out. Thanks for watching hopefully you are getting a bunch of riding in.
The ones I put on are what they call the even swap but they are 1/4” shorter than stock. They do have them in longer lengths you can get. They also offer standard or heavy duty.
I have only got out for like 15 minutes because its been so 🥶 to film my 1000 subscriber vlog. But I can tell you I could feel the difference. When it warms up I want to take a nice long ride and test the bike out now that it has the progressive fork springs and the shocks. I will be doing a full review video of the bike when it warms a bit. Thanks for watching
Hi, how different is your ride comparing the stock 11.5" harley shock that you remove and the 11" progressive?, I want to do 2up rides, around 340pounds combined on a 2010 1200 Sportster with 11" stock shocks. Great video !
I love the new shocks they make the ride alot smoother. The only thing different I would do is I would buy 1 or 2 sizes bigger than stock so it would give it a little more travel. I would definitly get the heavy duty if you are going to do alot of 2up. I am not a mechanic or professional but that would be my recommendation. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@82SGN they are like a 1/4” shorter so maybe a 1/4” I can’t say for sure. But you can also get longer ones so they will probably raise it a bit if you went that way. Not sure what direction you are looking to go.
I actually got the 11” in heavy Duty that length is what they said is stock swap. But I think if I did it over I would definitely go a little longer. But I do love them.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Great video Carl. I'm curious as to why you would go a little longer. Would you do 11.5 or 12? I'm thinking about getting these for my 2020 Iron 1200.
I went 12” 412’s and I like them haven’t scaled pegs yet or bottomed out yet. I think 12.5 would be my max because the gap on the rear tire starts to look weird! 12” it still looks good!!
I actually got the 11” heavy duty that is what I believe they call a factory equivalent. But its a 1/4” shorter. I love it the ride is much better. Especially in combination with the progressive fork springs. I do think if I bought it again I would get a slightly longer shock though.
thanks for this video! I plan on putting on the same shocks on mine - glad to see that it isn't too difficult to DIY
It was super easy. The fork springs that was a little more difficult. But I can tell you they make a huge difference. I will be doing a review. I don’t know if you saw the spring install video I did.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Carl! It took me a year but I finally got these shocks and installed em on my Iron 883. Just wanted to say that this video really helped me out and I will be sure to credit you on my install video!
Thank You hopefully you enjoy the ride. Thanks for watching.
@@KSMotoCafe im at work but got to check out first half of your video. I will watch the rest tonight. I am sure you will love them especially getting the longer ones. Ride safe and thanks for the Recognition.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl aw man thanks! yeah this video you have is the only one that gave me a clear confidence that I could do it and also to look out for that extra washer. Thanks again and ride safe!
Impact gun Sure makes it ALOT EASIER 💪👍 the stock length 11.5" suck ! No suspension TRAVEL
I went with the 13" 412's and my back is still thanking me !!!🤣
Yeah if I have to do it again I am going a bit longer. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hi great video. Can you tell me what size wrench is needed for that nut? I am currently doing mine but my 11/16 is too small.. thanks in advance
Thanks for watching. Unfortunately I am away from the bikes for a couple of days I will send you an answer when I get back.
Just a little question, Why? I saw the video when u adjust at 5 or 6 dots, that didn’t Work? Hope u enjoy it! And have fun! Drive safe
The original shocks actually were fine. But I heard these were better so I figured I would give them a try. They make them in different sizes so you can get more travel on them. Thanks for watching snd commenting.
Hi! Works with a heavy passenger in your bike (95kg) ???
The heaviest I have had is like 65 kg on the back so I don’t have a definite answer for you. Thanks for watching. Only thing I could say is if I was going to try them I would definitely get the longer shocks with more travel if it was me.
These shocks are not very good, especially when 2 up.
I luv mine . I don’t ride 2 up hardly at all. Sorry to hear that
I just changed my Progressive 412's out. I got the standard springs at the stock length. I installed some Legends 13" shocks with a set of nice 1" lowering blocks. These are expensive but worth the cost. My 1200 Iron rides so much more comfortable and it doesn't have the much more of a lean on the side stand. I'll be putting my Progressive's up for sell at a very reasonable price. I was so dissatisfied with the stock length Progressives.
I hope Im not but only time will tell. I got the heavy duty hoping that makes a difference. Thanks for checking it out and giving me a heads up
Longer shocks give more support but you dont wanna jump the fence i suppose.
Awesome upgrade Carl. I was thinking to go exact shocks as yours. 412 heavy 11”. Was wondering if 11”, do the tyres or the swingarm touches the rear fender or the oil tank respectively, at any point? If so, u mentioned u’d go for longer ones, due to that reason or riding position?
I only think the longer ones would be better because it does give it more distance from bottoming out. I am not sure where it makes contact when it bottoms out but with my stock shocks when not set correctly the bike bottomed out alot. I wish the dealers would spend more time setting up the bikes for people on delivery because some people don’t have the knowledge to do it and they ride the bike like that and it’s not right. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Thanks alot Carl. Appreciate your reply and videos. Cheers mate!
Nice install, they look real good. Try not to use extensions if you're worried about correct torque. If you have to use one and you are concerned about the proper torque numbers then it's nice to have a torque analyzer.
What effect does an extention have on the torque? Just curious never heard of that.
Just googled it straight extensions have no effect its only if you use universal or angle adapters.
In my experience any sort of extensions or adapters or cat claws will effect the torque. We always used a torque analyzer even with no attachments at all in my field (it was a requirement) The listed torque on the handle also is rarely what the wrench is putting out. Anything added just exasperates that as well. it's not that big of a deal thou. Many billions of bolts have been installed just fine. That's why I said "if you're worried about correct torque". I myself, in the home environment rarely use a torque wrench on anything. Just Head bolts and critical items. If not, the ol hand and brain method do a pretty good job in my opinion. No biggie, but something I have seen and experienced hands on.
@@dualsportdiary1150 Thanks for the info I am always open to learn new things. I know most people don’t even torque anything. I have a tendency to overtighten thats why I started using it. Thanks for watching and the information
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl ha! That's me. I love snapping heads off bolts! I'm very good at it. 😁
That's why I don't worry about torque at home, I KNOW it's tight enough after my gorilla hands touch it.
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I hope you enjoy this video and it helps if you decide to upgrade your shocks. Full Review of the upgraded suspension and other accessories to come with some warmer weather. Thanks for Watching and if you have not already please SUBSCRIBE!!!
Now you're at 992! 🖤
@@emBraceSinghlife right back at you thanks a bunch!!
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl You're most welcome!
On the back rear shock, where was that extra washer located at? Thanks!
I don’t remember off hand and currently all my reference material is in storage sorry
hi
can you help me buy progressive suspension for my 883
What size is the wrench to tight the inside knot. Thanks Carl!
I will look into the size if you still need information. Sorry it took so long to reply this comment must have been hung up somewhere on UA-cam.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl it’s a 3/4” anyway I turn my Sporster 48 for a softail slim s 2016. I ‘ll continue following you… you bring always important information
HI, I also want to change my stock suspensions, i got 412 heavy duty and it's good to know the torque values, very important ( thanks for that :) )
I also want to change all the engine bolts ( black ) but I don't know the torque values for ( pulley cover- timing gear cover- primary chain case- tappet blocks- rocker cover ) If you can help me with torque values for all these I will really appreciate. I have a HD 48 2019. Thanks mate !!!
I won’t be home till tomorrow or Monday but if you message me on instagram I will send you pictures from the service manual in a day or 2
Hi Carl , great video helped me a lot will be installing my 412's on my 2013 Custom 1200 CB Sportster soon (Liverpool UK) did you post a ride result seem to have missed that just wondering what the difference was from stock units kind regards Dave.
Smoother ride and less bottoming out. If I could do one thing different I would by them one or 2 sizes longer than stock to even give them more travel so you could soften the spring a bit
Did the same with my 1976 Ironhead, but 14.5 ,vast improvement! Whole different bike between the 412 shocks and new Progressive Suspension spring kit!!!
Definitely a huge difference. Thanks for checking it out.
Was looking at the 412's as well but after further research and weighing a woping 140lbs, think I'm gonna bite the bullet and go with Legends or Pro - Actions.
Nice
Lol pick up on the wheel Carl! Jk buddy good video, I enjoyed it and you did learn the answer to my question
Thanks for watching much appreciated.
Immeaditly subscribed! Really helpful. It' s a very helpful video, especially the fact that you can switch the logo to the inside is agood to know...
Thanks for the Sub and checking it out. Hopefully once I get in my new house I will have a bunch more content coming out this spring/summer
Having the same bike as you... always interested in what you do to your bike.
Might do the same to mine... but...
“Not now... Maybe never”..!! 😉
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I can’t wait to test it out I hear they make a big difference!!
I have these shocks on my sportster. Quick question, do you need to jack it up to adjust them or can I do it with just the kick stand?
I adjust them on the stand with no issues.
What seat is that?
Drag specialty’s
Hi would the sleeve and spacer be the same for a 2020 sportster 48. Kind regards
I am not sure sorry.
Love the video did those new shocks make a big difference?? Where did you get them for 299 thanks
They made a big difference. If I had to change anything I would have bought the longer ones to give them a bit more travel. I believe I bought them off the progressive website.
Carl what length shocks did you go with? I ordered some 13" Legend Revo's for my 2020 Iron 1200. How would you describe the upgrade and ride quality?
I ordered the stock equivalent. If I had to do it again I would order the slightly longer ones to get a little more travel in them. But they definitely make the ride more comfortable than the stock ones.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Sweet! Thank you Carl. Great tutorial video on the install. 👍👍
Good job Carl, Im getting the same shocks for 2 up me and the wife Thanks again.
Only advice if I did it again I would get the slightly longer length also. Thanks for watching have fun riding.
Awesome video man. Just what I was looking for. 🙏🏼
Glad it helped Thanks for watching!!
I enjoyed the video I got the same ones in chrome on my 2016 iron xl883n what a difference
I can’t wait for spring so I can get out and give them a good test and the progressive fork springs I installed. Thanks for watching I really appreciate it.
Great video Carl! Thank you! Just curious, what jack do you have?
Drag specialty’s center jack. I have a video on my channel unboxing it. Thanks for watching
Very impressed with the 412 Series Progressive rear coil overs we installed on 2021 RGS #performancebaggin build!
I love them just think I should have gotten the ones slightly longer than the stock shocks.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl yessir! That extra 1” makes a surprising difference 👍
Hey Carl. Please did you get a chance to try this shocks? I'm looking to replace my shocks on the xl1200t to 14 inch. To rise a bit the bike and increase the lean angle and ride more comfortable 2up. Thank you for the work.
I have gone out around the block when I first installed them. Really not enough for a true review. We have quite a bit of snow ice and salt now. I probably won’t get out till end of March now and it doesn’t make me happy. Can’t wait to move!
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl take your time my friend no rush , better to stay safe. Take care and see you.
Thanks for video, did it raise your ride height,.
No it’s about the same. If i had to do it over I think I would get the slightly longer ones for a little more travel. Those may raise the ride a little.
You real heavy weight 😆 🤣 👍👍
Yep but trying to get back on the diet!!!
Very informative video. Looking forward to a road test to hear your thoughts on the new shocks
I will do a hole review of the bike and all my additions and suspension upgrades when it warms up.
Can't wait to see how they work out Carl, finger's crossed for some good weather for you soon. 🤞👍🇦🇺
Thanks Tim just as long as it doesn’t snow and I get a day a bit above freezing I may sneak out. Thanks for watching hopefully you are getting a bunch of riding in.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Hopefully get some riding in this week. We have our national holiday this week (Australia Day) and I've got a few days off. 👍🇦🇺
Got mine on the way , got the 11 inch . Cant wait to install
You will enjoy the ride!!! Thanks for watching!!!!!
Another great install Carl! Spring is just around the corner!!
Thanks I can’t wait for Spring its really cold here now! Thanks for checking it out
Great Video! Very helpfull.
Thank you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
What are the size of the doctors shocks and the new ones I have a sportster 48 and like to change mine.
The ones I put on are what they call the even swap but they are 1/4” shorter than stock. They do have them in longer lengths you can get. They also offer standard or heavy duty.
I have a 2018 sportster 48 and like to change my shocks not sure what size are my factory shocks like a inch lower
@@STI77008 go on the progressive suspension site and put in your bikes info. It should tell you what fits.
I enjoyed your presentation. Good job.
Thank You very much appreciate it
Keep doing what your doing, looking good
Thank You it is riding so much nicer now.
Nice! Been looking forward to this one. I want to do it myself but I dont have a jack for the bike.
Waiting for a warm snow free day to test it out. Yeah if you have a jack its a super easy job!!! Have you been riding at all?
I use a buddy to hold up the bike. Till I got the bolts on. Good friend!!
@@DoubleDMoto There is always a way!!! Lol
@@DoubleDMoto that's a good point. Work out alright?
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl not as much as I hoped!
Nice IBEW sticker 😉
Thanks 31years so far
Sweet! How’s it compared to stock?
I have only got out for like 15 minutes because its been so 🥶 to film my 1000 subscriber vlog. But I can tell you I could feel the difference. When it warms up I want to take a nice long ride and test the bike out now that it has the progressive fork springs and the shocks. I will be doing a full review video of the bike when it warms a bit. Thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing
No problem Thanks for watching!
you are the best
Thank You
Hi, how different is your ride comparing the stock 11.5" harley shock that you remove and the 11" progressive?, I want to do 2up rides, around 340pounds combined on a 2010 1200 Sportster with 11" stock shocks. Great video !
I love the new shocks they make the ride alot smoother. The only thing different I would do is I would buy 1 or 2 sizes bigger than stock so it would give it a little more travel. I would definitly get the heavy duty if you are going to do alot of 2up. I am not a mechanic or professional but that would be my recommendation. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl , thank you very much for the advice.
Hello, they work well with a passenger? as they are only 11,5 inches
Nice sharing 👌,
Thanks for watching and subscribing to my channel I really appreciate it!!!
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl i enjoyed 👏👏👏👏👏🤝🤝🤝goodjob
Can't wait to see the review of the upgrade! Great work.
Thanks I can’t wait to do it. It has been very cold here lately. No snow though. Hoping for a warm day. Thanks for checking it out!!!
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl question.... these shocks lower the bike?
@@82SGN they are like a 1/4” shorter so maybe a 1/4” I can’t say for sure. But you can also get longer ones so they will probably raise it a bit if you went that way. Not sure what direction you are looking to go.
@@82SGN also been snowing like heck here lately so the test and review is probably a ways out.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl thank you. I wanted to lower the rear, but im a noobie, so still learning stuff, a lot thanks to you.
I need help with something
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11,5"? 12"?
I actually got the 11” in heavy Duty that length is what they said is stock swap. But I think if I did it over I would definitely go a little longer. But I do love them.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl Great video Carl. I'm curious as to why you would go a little longer. Would you do 11.5 or 12? I'm thinking about getting these for my 2020 Iron 1200.
@@jsmoby alot of people said to me the longer shock has alittle more travel.
I went 12” 412’s and I like them haven’t scaled pegs yet or bottomed out yet. I think 12.5 would be my max because the gap on the rear tire starts to look weird! 12” it still looks good!!
What’s size are those
I believe the 11” heavy Duty. It is what they consider stock height replacement. I am 5’10” if I had to buy again I might go with a little longer one.
@@MotorcyclingwithCarl I got the 12
@@djmysticalone321 do you like the the 12 inch? I’m debating on 12 or 13
I actually got the 11” heavy duty that is what I believe they call a factory equivalent. But its a 1/4” shorter. I love it the ride is much better. Especially in combination with the progressive fork springs. I do think if I bought it again I would get a slightly longer shock though.