Is EA Sports WRC Finally Worth Playing in 2024?
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- After a year of development is EA Sports WRC Worth getting now ?
We let you know what you should expect from this rally game from EA
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Why are AAA studios pumping out at best utterly mediocre titles ? We need More Passion, More Energy and probably dev teams being given the resources and freedom to actually make good exciting games. After a year of updates and some new DLC WRC is "ok" at least it "works" and you can have fun driving long stages , sadly on balance when it comes to core gameplay its worse than rally games that came out 20+ years ago.
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The reason is EA / Ubisoft and the like have made games a vehicle for profit for a long time now. There are passionate people working for these companies but when a game releases in a broken state, it pretty much answers itself- it was management and bosses who chose to get the game out the door to meet an unrealistic financial forecasting target by starting the ball rolling on the cash cow. I remember games used to be delayed regularly in order to polish the overall product (Rockstar still does), but the likes of EA dont give a sh*t. Just like the star wars games in the last 5 years for another example.
Same thing as video games in general and similar to movies, maybe it's more than just money related.
@@johnreilly4722 I think what tends to happen in large companies they people that move up are often business and money people and not people that actually really have a feel or passion for the absolute specifics of the art or the core meaning of the actual products they make. You have people that are good at knowing what worked in the past due to there being specific market data and sales but not people that understand what could actually be good in the future or what the actual essence was of what made a thing good.
Steve jobs sums it up one aspect of it quite well here ( I'm not a general fan of jobs but i think this is a true observation that still stands) - ua-cam.com/video/aheV8nY0zcM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MindsofBusiness
I love the more passion guy 😂
when it comes to rally games most of us are like single men in a club at 3am. We'll take whatever comes our way.
Yeah same goes for youtubers covering news, you just happy to watch another one for a game you have little interrest for.
totally true my friend :D
@@freekshow 🤣🤣
Why would you need anything else when RSF RBR exists?
@@dsse651it's the same with rice. Why would you eat anything else if rice exists, right?
Who would've thought that Unreal Engine is not made for realistic simulators. I mean it in its name!
GamerMuscle should leave sim racing and become a fisherman. Wouldn’t that be unreal?
can you catch fish with tea bags ?
@@____________________ok If by T-Bag you mean ones Nut-Bag then Yes !!!
The stages feel tedious instead of challenging and scary like rbr
Fair comment; for me though, there are quite a few scary and challenging roads I’ve laboured on!
@@lpcoolee I get that but those long ones are way long
I agree with your opinion on the generic roads, it's the attention to detail. On the Nacon Wrc series the roads had little bit of detail like bits of mud trailed out of a field or patched tarmac or leaves accumulating having fallen off the trees.
These little things trick your brain subliminally into thinking it's more real and alive, and not computer generated. In music this is called syncopation😂
Totally agree on the handling. I haven't been able to put my finger on exactly what's wrong with it, but you sum up my own thoughts quite well. It's as if the cars aren't heavy enough or something, there's not enough inertia. Also the way the cars react to counter steer is really odd, when you counter steer it's like the car snaps on to rails.
That sticker on the windscreen on the last car and last 2 minutes of gameplay is fecking criminal... I never understood the proper benefit of having such a narrow windscreen in a rally car. 😵💫
@@Buckfast_Berserker it’s so you don’t get blinded by the sun, at sunrise/set
Seriously? Real life isn't like a video-game. Even with that stripe the driver sees enough.
No Triples support no buy for me. EA / Codemasters need to do better.. Its not like they dont have a budget or the workforce to implement it.. Similar gripes could be said about the F1 game and lack of something as simple as mouse support on the Menu screens. Unacceptable in this day and age so I will keep my money and not feed their money hungry machine
There's a coding hack for triples that works very well. Boosted Media did a video on it. I highly recommend checking it out.
Wise decision 👍
Very fair GM.
just to add dont drive it when in a motion rig It truly enhaneces dull to the next level.
I bought this when v1.8 came out with vr beta for £18 and last night I bought the full expansion pack. So for £43 I have to say it’s a steal and I absolutely love this game. I’m a time trial addict and that’s all I play and I love it!
I will Deny myself a Solid Rally Game, just to SPITE THEM, over a Feature, MAYBE AT BEST 30% of users USE!
I get it, not a SMALL NUMBER!
But, if you 30% get WHAT YOU WANT, at the Expense of the other 70%?
How you think SALES GO?
So……
It’s called COMPROMISE!
Time trial junkie here too ❤ My new obsession is Ravin De Beles in Mónaco with wet surface with the Group B's Audi Quattro ❤❤
You bring up some solid points, the way the stages feel a bit boring, and there not being any passion in the game, boring menus etc. And theres a lot of Sim things missing like tire pressure etc. But what i dont agree on is the handling. I think its quite good and real. On the racing surface you have good grip, in the Rally1 you have good lateral grip. And once off the racing line you lose control. A lot of the "complaints" you have seem to me are fixable with setup or the good ol "get gud" lol. Not trying to be mean, just my opinion from my experience.
I agree. The video is critical but most of it is deserved. The issue with the EA WRC handling is the sharp falloff of traction once you lose the grip. It should be more progressive, and you should be able to dance at the limits. Instead, when you lose grip, you lose it completely. Likewise, when it gets back, it does so with an unnaturally aggressive manner.
What I had issues with in this video was the reference to DR2.0 implying that the handling used to be better. I’ve played a horrible amount of both DR2.0 and EA WRC, and the DR2.0 handling is just ridiculous compared to EA WRC. Codemasters have themselves said that DR2.0 has too little grip at the rear. And it totally ruined the handling making it feel like a rear wheel steering trolley. Like I said, EA WRC has issues with the grip levels as well, but overall it’s much more natural and feels much more realistic. Making it much more fun for me.
You're definitely onto something with regards to unreal engine games. I've played a lot of them, not only driving games, sports games in general, anything on unreal engine always feels delayed/unresponsive.
Really sooo Happy they added Fishing, I mean Rallying upto a Lake & being able to cast a line from your Fiesta while you take a Siesta is very satisfying !
Good review. Thought it is only me who feels somehow blunt handling.
I blissfully bought the game around launch. I’ve honestly not had too many issues (no stuttering, or crashing).
I’ve honestly loved every minute of it!
I actually enjoy it more than Dirt 2. It’s my favourite rally game to date!
BTW RBR also got Latvian stage after last update
Thanks for calling it how it is. I'm a super rally enthusiast but I look at any footage from this game and I feel nothing. It's like even AI generated rally footage would have more soul than this. Shang Tsung took its soul. David Goggins took its soul.
gamermuscle should leave sim racing and become a fish or man
Unreal Engine is not suitable for sim racing games.
I just wish all the detail the artists put into the tracks and trackside objects weren't wasted because the general art direction for some reason dictates that every day-time stage is filled with this bright, light blue Silent Hill fog and the road is only visible as vague, bright, almost-single-color mush because it's too bright! It's an ugly, ugly game, unfortunately. And don't tell me it's because it's impossible to find a compromise between lighting the bright track and the dark cockpit properly because other games manage that just fine. A big part of the appeal of a rally game to me is the globetrotting, tearing through various countrysides... But they all look so strange in this game! It gives me no joy to drive in these locations.
EA WRC feels like an amateur effort to port ripped tracks from a much better game into an engine they're not made for and leaving all the settings that should make it look right at default because who cares.
Fully agree. Colors looks strange in this game. Everything looks yellow, trees and grass should be more green and the lighting is awful. Foggy white horizon looks bad.
I played ACC again. I got the shits with how bad the force feedback is
I have really been enjoying this in VR, but I do agree with a lot of what you said. Still fun. I bought it on sale about a month ago after the bugs were mostly fix.
This game makes me miss the dirt physics is DR2.0. Being able to power thru a turn you've taken too deep and correcting under rotation with the throttle is something EA WRC has completely failed on. Even thought DR2.0 had terrible asphalt physics, its still better than WRC. There is far too much lateral grip on asphalt in WRC. I think Reiza did an amazing job with rally car physics in PC2. Maybe they should get a crack at a full rally game?
While I agree it's a step back in some directions, it's also forward in areas.
Love the long stages, real battle of attrition. I think the handling is good once the ffb is dialed in.
The asphalt grip is much better, and I also never had the stutter problems many speak of.
While I don't play the game consistently, it fills the void when I need to wring the neck of a rally car and drive on the edge.
Birmingham center is not that bad, also I have +500hrs in EA WRC. I'm so bland and mediocre I visit UK for the weather.
A while back in a EA Sports WRC video I saw a comment like: "You just need to play DR2.0 to understand how bad is the driving experience in the new game".
I did that, and I've been regretting this move since then, as now I'm still enjoying the DR2.0 experience and EA WRC is currently uninstalled...
Just as he says, play like nothing existed before and you will enjoy it. If you come back to DR2.0 or RBR, you're done and you'll have wasted your money in a game you don't play anymore.
PS: People were freaking Excited when WRC License fell onto Codemasters hands. And just at that moment, we lost any kind of competitiveness on the rally market games. Why do they even need to improve the game if there's no other competitor that will do a better work in there.
PS2: Did you know that DR2.0 and EA WRC has more or less the same Active players?? Even EA WRC Dropped to less than 800 player during Summer!
i miss V-Rally
I totally get what you mean when you talk about the track details. The road texture itself often looks like a wallpaper thats wayyyy too repetitive and it was the first thing and for me the most distracting one I noticed about the whole game.
I think this game is better than 5/10 for me. Car and stages are loads of fun. I really like it.
@@SidVish 6/5
@@GamerMuscleVideos Yes thats about right ha
"He is not being sarcastic" said all the fanboys saracasticly
Gamer Muscle should "go fish" :). I am tempted to buy this game but I will wait for a sale I think. Keep up the good work.
I play Rally sims exclusively in VR. I bought EA WRC in summer sale for ~15$ and I spent around 20hours trying to get the settings to where I can enjoy it. First in VR, then I gave up - it's a mess, started tweaking around with flatscreen, but there are not enough camera options, it's constantly shaking around... Just look at the footage starting around 10:00 you have a small slit where you see the world and it's constantly waving up and down (and that's a pretty smooth track with only minor bumps), certain locations are almost unplayable for me. Anyway I will give the game another shot when they update VR. But since they did basically ZERO work on that since the VR release ~half a year ago instead of updating and buying the new locations I will uninstall this and enjoy the new RBR RSF career mode!
Sidenote: I did a lot of research on Unreal Engine. And it seems like it's a bit of a trap for the devs. It makes a lot of things very easy and efficient but if you want to give it the finishing touch and optimize it (which is super important for sims) it's almost impossible. It has inherent issues with high fps and frame pacing, hence the stuttering. It doesn't look right without TAA which introduces a lot of blur and it eats performance (just compare DR2 and EA WRC requirements to get around the same visual quality. These factors are also the reason VR is such a mess, some say it's a lost cause). There are great UE games. But what I heard from devs is that if you wanna do it right you basically have to completely rewrite parts of the engine to fix the issues which costs a lot of time and money and EA is obviously not willing to spend it.
It's time to become a fisherman.
I personally have really enjoyed the game since it came out, but as I've said in other places I'm playing on Xbox Series S, so the downgraded graphics meant fewer performance issues on launch. I've been playing rally games since Colin McRae on the ps1. I do appreciate the criticisms though, it's certainly far from perfect. I think the new stages are a step up from the launch stages so hopefully the other ones coming are as well done.
The career mode in EA WRC bored the crap out of me, I agree that many of the stages feel very samey. You spend most of the time during a rally running back and forth along what is essentially the same stage, with few exceptions. It just becomes a chore. The driving is still nowhere near as satisfying as Dirt Rally 2.0 where getting through a stage feels exhilarating, In EA WRC it feels more like a relief, in a "Thank f*** that's over with" kind of way.
Agree with every word you said. I play this on the PS5 and I am astounded by how poorly the game performs. It’s sub PS4 performance to be honest. The frame rate, pop in and foliage clipping into the car, unbelievable! They will never fix it. I was hoping for a new game that performs better, so DLC is very disappointing. To see how far Codemasters rally games have fallen is sad indeed.
Really?
Maybe your TV SUCKS?
I have a 3 YO, Samsung 85 something 8K, 120/60 HZ!
It’s an 85 INCH TV, and I have ZERP PROBLEM since they INITIALLY fixed it!
@@iamzeusandthisisthetruth4229 8K television 🤣
I feel your pain!
I want it to be good but to be honest, I'll stick to RBR until the next big contender arrives
And although there must be some people who turn off in disgust that you said something mean about their favourite game, there might also be people who wondered "Is it any good?" and when you mention a few bad things, they feel like they've now got the answer ;)
GamerMuscle should make fishing vlogs. These videos are way too interesting.
GamerMuscle should leave sim racing and become a fisherman.
Great review. As a VR racer this will be a no buy and I’ll stick with DR2. It’s encouraging to see AC Evo will have VR support from day 1 and they are looking to please the VR racer as this sector will only grow plus it’s the only way to be fully immersed in the sim.
Let's be honest here,Dirt Rally 1 and 2 both felt like driving boats,Assetto Corsa with the right car is still the champ of sim racing.
You mentioned Kart Kraft I love it,it is good when you get it set up right,I have Logitech G Pro wheel and pedals,adapter and H shifter.
GM can come join me being a fisherman.
"Yes and no" That's my whole simracing career 😂
This title contributed to me becoming indifferent with sims and stopping my coverage. Lots of unfinished, bland titles and I've just stopped caring.
Good that the grave digging is still going strong though , very clever to use model cars as a cover for buying all the solvents you use.
@GamerMuscleVideos once again, you've figured me out. It really is time for me to be a fisherman.
Sad but true. Same thing has happened to me. I only play racing games with a controller now for casual fun. Thankfully there are still good indie devs around that are far more worthy of support, and passionate modders still making good new stuff for RBR, AMS, rF1 etc (for free I might add).
I live near Birmingham, and you are dead right about the city centre. Does this allow me to leave a like?
New EA WRC DLC.... GamerMuscle at the roadside... fishing! 😉
Absolute, even the wining off all the cars are the same , if they should make it in black and white it could become 5/10
I 100% agree. i bought it at release and played it for a couple of days until it felt soulless. i went back to dr2 and i found what was missing in wrc after just half a stage in dr2. wrc still stutters on my setup. 5950x, 7900xtx and 64bg ram 4000mhz.
Still stutters? Damn that is why i put it down after buying it and i have a RX 7900GRE. I badly want to play it and like it, Getting bored DR2 stages
@@alexcarolan8825nah doesn't really for me at all now, the odd minor one but nothing as bad as launch... once they're cached, it's all good
Totally agree, spent hundreds of petrifying hours in Kinross, Greece In DR2.0. Just don't feel the same levels of danger in wrc.
GamerMuscle should set his rig up on a north sea trauler and race from there
Fishing isn't for you mate, your doing gods work so we don't have to lol
Looks like dirt rally 2.0 but worse. It looks so artificial, odd color grading, not fresh, more like metro exodus atmosphere. Is the grass green or brown? 🤦
You are absolutely right about the Unreal Engine and racing games, it does not mix well. Especially the VR part of it sucks massive balls.
I enjoy this game but I always go back to Dirt 2.0. Dirt really makes you feel like you are barely holding it together and that slight wrong move and it's over but in a fair way. This game feels a bit to safe but it's nice to have new stages.
Couldnt agree more
Great vid👍
This regression in handling is affecting all modern racing game releases and it's so hard to understand.
From arcade to sim, games have gotten more complex on their driving physics only to ultimate drive worse. The same thing can be said about graphics too, not only because of UE but all this focus on temporal effects, screenspace effects, ray tracing, etc, and games still look worse than they did 10 years ago.
In the case of EA Sports WRC I feel like this it's their first title that has good "wheelspin" grip and the cars feel pointy enough even if still on the floaty side, but this comes at the cost of not being able to manage the car on the limit and snap oversteer. It's another case of one step forward and two steps back.
As a sidenote but related to handling regressions, everyone wants Gran Turismo 7 to come to pc but I hope it doesn't, at least in its current state.
It's the worst driving GT of all of them, including Sport, but people seem completely blind to the fact that the handling has regressed into this on-rails understeer and snap oversteer handling type, something that old GT games never really had at least to the extent of 7.
What makes this handling regression even weirder is that the guy responsible for the physics is the same guy who's been there since GT1. How did he forget how to make good handling out of nowhere?
But people will somehow defend that GT7 is the best game because it's the most complex or something dumb like that, even though the final product is awful to drive...
Sometimes I do wonder, is it the devs making bad games or the people actively wanting bad games.
Many probably do “DEFEND” parts of the game, because “PARTS” are GOOD!
The SEAMLESS (IF GOOD LOBBY) DOOR TO DOOR RACES!
Matchmaking is Lightyears beyond anything else!
As for the Understear, snap oversteer is being corrected, at least when I switched to the Fanatec CLUBSPORT DD+, I can save ALMOST ANY SCREW UP(Drift) in GT4/3!
Where just 6 months ago, I couldn’t have saved half of them!
Far from PERFECT!
Absolutely!
But it IS FUN!
And there is fun to be found!
Either way I say PLAY WHAT YOU WANT! 👍
@@iamzeusandthisisthetruth4229 I’m guessing you’re talking about GT7.
You see, the problem happens when a game about driving has bad driving.
GT7 is an okay game with all its features, one could argue that the used car prices being tied to real life sucks, the progression is a bit less interesting, but many other games do waaay worse than GT7.
Again, the problem happens when the most important feature of a racing game, the driving, is in many ways a downgrade not only compared to previous games but also to itself in earlier versions.
It’s been a while, but I remember that when the game came out the GT3 R8 Evo had some weird oversteer, but with some setup tweaks the car actually had some nice looseness to it and could be driven just fine.
Another car that was fun to drive on day 1 was the Peugeot 908, on the Sarthe track experience you could do the Porsche curves full throttle by just balancing the car on the limit. Was it realistic? No, but it was fun and the driving had nuance to it. Now that car has the same understeer all GT7 cars have and it’s just so boring to drive.
Sure, the game keeps getting physics changes but it’s all very minor at the end of the day and none of these updates have helped that chronic understeer the game got after the first physics change made shortly after launch.
But at the end of the day, if you enjoy the game who am I to tell you you’re wrong.
Should have waited before this review. I was getting board by some of the longer stages in poland. I had the same thoughts on the road. I agree with everything you said. What is happening to me?!
For me personally it's a £17.99/£24.99 season update instead of an annual £60 Kylotonn Games piece of shovelware so the negatives will never outweigh the positives. WRC is in a better place now than it has been since WRC 3 (or 4 - depending on your personal preference) way back on X360.
Great points! Fully agree!
I think every developer dreams of a 5 out of 10 review a year after release from the grumpy old man.
GM said the handling in WRC is grate.
Gamermuscle I hope you're gonna catch me some COD to go with my chips and tea!!!
I'm only good at catching maceral
I prefer Dirt Rally 2 because i hate driving really long stages😂
No triple support, tarmac physics still wrong
GamerMuscle needs to stop sim racing and become a fisherman or something like that
I've heard of Birmingham!
obviously, we need ninja monkeys with cattle prods to zap anyone who doesn't implement sublime FFB in their rally game. Or become fishermen.
Purchased this off Ebay for £10 for my ps5 and glad I did not pay anymore..I dint think it's as good as dirt 2.0 but I kind of played that to death and just wanted something fresh...frame rates are shocking and do miss the dirt off the cars but I guess it will fill a gap for now
Had it launched with the dated DiRT2 physics, it would have been much better. I won't reinstall or ever play it. Neither will I buy another EA title ever. I pray AC Evo includes rally or hill climb.
The problem with the dullness and and inconsistancy is right in the tittle. EA GAMES. they ruined nascar cames for about 10 yrs now they are likely gonna do the same thing to WRC.
They ruin everything they touch since the the late 2000s
10:35. Wrong. Gamepad also feels bland and uninspiring in comparison to other rally games like DR2. It feels better to drive on the limit on a gamepad with proper settings on DR2. The notion that you can't balance the car on the edge with a gamepad is inaccurate. With enough experience and finesse it is possible just like on a wheel with a little less consistency. Whatever you feel on EA WRC with a wheel, gamepad users within the high end skill also feels it.
fair enough lol
On PC games much better than was on launch it was unplayable back then .. Stutters are still there much alot better than it was game still needs work.
Why does the colors look so strange in this game? Grass is supposed to be green, not yellow. Same with trees.
Also, the horizon looks way too white/foggy in some instances.
Fishing sim review?
I can’t buy this expansion when simple shit doesn’t work. If I do a time trial, click “return to service area” from the start menu, the game crashes 3 out of 4 times. Maybe try fixing all the crashes before charging us more money.
I had free trial too access the game suddenly it ran out sadly i don't have it i need a copy of title
Is the guy reviewing this game a fisherman or what?
Wrc feels to be struggling to emulate games that have already been done rather than evolve rally sims to the next level, have sims peaked 15 years ago? Dirt has so much more character to it and Richard burns feels so much better to drive. I did have an ok time with wrc a few months ago after completing half a dozen rallys and events but completely forgot about the game, still not tried the update and not really botherd to be honest, replayability lacks because the atmosphere of the game is uninspired. Modern games i guess
Around 55km of stages now
I wouldn't spend a single penny on this hot garbage from EA! Finally someone has said it! This game is inferior to DR2 in every possible way...
Not for me it's not, this game is on the shelf indefinitely until they add triple screen support as they promised
I thought this game was Unreal 5, not 4.
Sounds fishy to me.
EA will never see a euro more from me EVER! 2142 and this s...? Naaa, never again.
Older games were made by humans
Newer games are made by A.I.
Complaining about menus being dull Is hilariously dull
I agree with what you have said about this game...Its well, meh.
Fixed? Lol i bought dlc and after patch the game doesnt start anymore. The game is now broken and Money is gone. EA say they will fix this. LOL. never. game is broke for lot of us on PC! Its insane what they did. They steal us the Money!
I give it 6 out of 10 just because it's rally and I like rally. However, I find the stages to be a bit underwhelming compared to other rally Sims.Haven't played it in a while so I won't go too deep into the fishing aspect of the game.
More working whit Grafik 4K 60 Fps Water 💦 mud rain 🌧️
They won't get another dime from me until they fix the VR.
It's unlikely they will ever get it good in VR , Unreal 4 performs quite badly with more detailed games if I'm only just geting 100fps on a 3080ti in 4k with DLSS with mid settings then its unlikely it would ever get to the point of being able to both look sharp and also hit 90hz in a VR headset at all times. Basically a game needs to run 200+FPS 4k on a 3080 for you to be getting really good frame rates with overhead in VR with say a quest 3.
So unless some random technology dropped for unreal 4 that EA then wanted to put into the game ( which they probably would not) then this will always run quite badly for VR.
Only if they moved to unreal or even another engine i think would this work well in VR and I'd imagine it would take at least 3-5 years for that to happen so.
Totally agree x2
It could potentially work for eye-tracking headsets if they implement dynamic foveated rendering. That's made a big difference for ACC in VR. Will they do it? Prob not. So I'm also in the not giving them any more cash camp.
No (working) VR, No Buy
Stop trying to hook up to the metaverse and just play the game on TV.
Yeah, game was shit when I pre ordered it last year and I deleted it from my Steam account. I re installed it last month and I've been having an absolute blast!! All the stutters are gone for me. VR works great and motion is unreal as well. Love doing the long rally courses to unwind after a long day.
River Ports
Agree with every word said, supprised you didn't mention about the boring sounds.
Sounds like I was right not to buy the game after I thought the trial was poor. Give us a next gen Dirt Rally remake at this point.
Dirt Rally 3.0 - But sadly I think the Codemasters that made Dirt Rally 2.0 is gone and not coming back.
Unreal Engine is for Unreal Tournament! Not race cars or that sellout joke of an abomination Fartnight. Toodle-Pip, carry on.
There must be a tiny dev team working on this... not sure what happened to the team but there doesn't seem to be an overhaul or major upgrades in the future. I thought EA was supposed to be good for Codemasters, but we've seen mediocre games from them. Dirt rally 1 and 2 had more passion in them. Surfaces were a lot more interesting in those games.
the answer is no
Dirt Rally 2 is for me a 9/10 and EA Sports WRC 7/10
But happy that both exist. I like the roughness of Dirt Rally 2 and the warmer coloring. UE4 everything seems to be "cold". Next game is hopefully closer to Dirt Rally 2. I am happy with the Expansion. Updated 2024 cars and more stages to enjoy.
This or Colin McRae 2.0?
This ua-cam.com/video/AIK1zcOz_Kg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GamerMuscleVideos
Wow that just looks awful, not the specifics but the overall feel. Could hardly tell one bit of track from another.