1- Find friends that will help you, cause pugs are such assholes that they will flame you for not healing them through avoidable damage. And people will troll you for asking questions
As a long time healer imho everyone should start with resto shaman. It is very straight forward & it has several emergency buttons if you mess up. You even have a self rez in case of a group wipe.
I think holy priest is more straight forward. Resto requires some set up and more mama management while holy doesn’t require any setup and less utility to have to think about it.
@@marycorn3621 Holy has holes in its kit that shammy does not have (for instance an interrupt & a poison cleanse) & is therefore more reliant on good pug groups which can put new healers in bad situations. Resto shammy is completely reactive & has a solution for every situation while keeping its normal rotation very simple.
My advice is, don't play healer if you are in the pug life. It's not worth it. Play tank of dps, it'll be more enjoyable. But if you like healing, find a group. I puged all the way to 2.8k IO as a druid healer and ... it was my worse nightmare. Don't do this to yourself. Healing isn't fun, at all.
DPS without a doubt is not enjoyable, well, if you don't mind waiting tons of time in queue, your main problem is the healer, druid is not that good pug wise, if you would have trying shaman/priest or mw you would have a different experience
@@asasdsaasda I'm enjoying to play my hunter and make the grind again, it's been pretty easy to find groups or assemble one. But i've tried shaman/priest/monk/paladin/druid, and only druid has the game play that i like, as a healer. And i'm not trying evoker, cuz nobody stands in the range for the spells to be effective.
(Resto shaman main who also picked up tanking this season) I definitely think learning and becoming decently proficient at healing makes playing tank/dps much easier since you are already in the mindset of anticipating incoming damage (especially unavoidable damage), watching everyone’s CDs, and popping defensives/externals accordingly. It forces you to have a more wholistic view and understanding of the content you are doing. Can be hard at first and you will always have room to improve but that’s what makes it rewarding! Also just mute everyone and think of it as a follower dungeons makes things easier 😂!
One of the most important and sometimes overlooked tips to healing: Use mouseovers for your heals! It makes it much easier. You can use an addon like cell or clique to immediately bind your heals to mouseovers instead of making a macro for each spell.
So much this. Clique for life. And you do not need to wonder about where your mouse is on the field when you are doing damage since clique does only bind on unitframes. Top-tier addon.
Multi Rank 1 Rsham here. My suggestion is to test a few different healers out, level them up in timewalking and run them through LFR or normal. Don't lose sight of what's fun in pursuit of choosing the meta healer, because the meta changes. Whatever healer that you become most accustomed to will be the best healer for you, because healing is about timing more than anything. HMU if you need any healing tips, I'm glad to give advice to those that want to improve.
Really good video! I came back to healing for the TWW and even though there have been some tough moments this season, I love healing. I started as a healer 18 years ago in WoW, I've played tank, rdps and mdps to check it out and had fun, however;. today I play all healer classes and I won't go back. I'm a lifer when it comes to this role.
Mouse over macros Take the time to set up the macros, it is the single strongest step you can possibly take. Yes, some add-ons can work, but I really do think they are all vastly inferior. Start with 5 man content like heroics. Enable raid frames for all content.
Ive never healed before this season and im currently upto 2600 as a resto shaman with pugs. Its crazy how you can tell after the first pull what kind of run its going to be. Some groups i do very little, and then other groups im spamming the tank and dps every pull. Gear doesnt seem to be helping as i healed 10s at 605 and depending on the group it can be just as hard at 630 as it was at 605. Therefore you never feel progression if that makes sense?
I’m going from holy pala in cataclysm classic to holy pala in retail. When I first got back in to retail again I went with frost DK because of its transmogs. But now I wanna push myself in retail healing instead of just classic, this video gave me that extra push
Like you said, the best way to get into healing is definitely normal/heroic dungeons. I got into mistweaver by spamming timewalking dungeons. Super fast queues gave me lots of practice
Recommending Holy Priest at this very moment is bad idea x.x I understand general idea .. usually it's the best one to recomment to players to learn healing with. And yes usually sentiment of classes being better or worse is only for highest level of gaming. I do main Holy Priest and I do manage But in this very patch your entire group have to work to catch up all your weaknesses, you have to call for everyone to use CDs at specific timings. Holy is very bad idea for PuGs.
Playing as mistweaver is good if you are used to DPS. Just jadefire stomp, then do your dps rotation. That will work in 90% of situations. The rest you can play with and learn as you go along.
Ya, it can be fun, but you have to really track CDs to play that well. During downtime you play very differently. I really would not recommend melee wings as a beginner spec for healing
Problem I have with healing, is Blizzard nerfed healer DPS so much that you're forced to switch specs just to enjoy world content. I shouldn't have to learn another spec, and switch from what I'm enjoying just to do world content quickly. Tanks, and healers should get a buff "World on your shoulders" or something where when NOT in a group Our damage is buffed MASSIVELY.
I’m a beginner player and coming from console. Disc priest catch my eye cause of the game play damage and heal. But I have it learn a lot before the high gameplay
You made me interessted in healing 😅 what about Paly is this also a good starter class? And interface i have problems with Vuhdo i have more Keys left for other binds but need to change the interface :/ and if not i need to do all this macros and switch all keys :/
Right now no class is good to heal with. Healing sucks this expansion and it's the worst role you can choose. You'll only get trashed, bashed ,feel pressure all the time on you and you'll have a bad time. Don't play a healer now , it sucks big time !
Healium addon is what I use. I love it. It removes all the thinking, since you have all the healing button in front of each name. it makes it so easy and fast to react. If Healium addon get removed from the game, is the day I stop playing wow, since my main is healer.
i can figure out rotation on DPS, i can figure out aggro and postioning on tank, no guides needed for both... but heal... Oh man, I either burn my mana in 10 seconds becauise I want to top everyone, or just panic and everyone dies... healing is so stressful for me, even on normal (616 shaman) people will still die. healing is SO EFING HARD in this game, and it would be easier but people, oh boy, people are the worst kind of creatures under sun, people are what makes healing stressful
I would absolutely put hours in to switching my main to healing. But the amount of crap they seem to take from groups, plus the bad role fidelity right now means the juice ain't worth the squeeze
Wait for season 2 with healing maybe. For now when youre playing a healer youre playing a piano and player healthbars barely moves. Its so bad to play right now.
I tried retail.. I healed with pally and resto druid in cata and wotlk. Got caught up in the hype of WW and decided to try it. I chose Pres evoker and shammy. I really don't understand the professions... I never saw the point of them and I didn't get anything I could use. I might not have been doing it properly but you can't just find a recipe or buy a recipe and have a great item. I found I spent all my time waiting and then once I had waited if we had a wipe people would leave and I was back to waiting. I decided to start classic fresh again instead and I will never play retail again.. I can find the best items playing with randoms in classic. I can grind the same dungeon over and over to get what I need. I don't know why I want the gear in retail... They are all slight upgrades and gear scores is really all that matters. The gear sucks so I wait a lot and I don't know what I am waiting for.
I’ll preface this by saying i’m mostly a pvper and therefore not up to date on pve balance however as someone who prefers healing, they need to get healers balanced, I don’t want to be in a position where I feel i’m actively hindering my party because I didn’t pick the meta healer, in terms of pvp that would be Holy Pala or Disc Priest currently.
Well, I will not be healing or tanking in dungeons again, back in wrath of the lich king and cataclysm people was toxic towards me and dungeon groups are even more toxic today. If wasnt toxic back then and still toxic, I would not mind tanking and healing, but I guess people want to be toxic instead of getting groups abit more quick.
We need ppl helps healers learn and not toxic players with trash talking about struggling healers .. this is the truth that why no one wanna try to be a healer :))
Between getting bashed by bad dps and no knowledge tanks, healing checks , weird mechanics healing is not fun unless you enjoy more stress on top of your day unless your with a coordinated group healing is most of the time trash in pugs
My rule of thumb that hasn't let me down, I over gear for the content I'm running and sure the one shot mechanics are unavoidable, however; it's far and few between. I've found there are more good players than bad in my experience. Mistakes happen and small handful of players just don't learn to avoid bad stuff, people genuinely want to get better and play. I main healer for m+ and raids.
I love healing. Holy pala for life. Felt like blizz did healers dirty af season 1. Said they would nerf the damage and nerf the healing and make things slower and more gradual. Nah fam all you did was nerf me and people’s health bars still spike af. Felt like I had to work so much harder than past seasons and it was less enjoyable
They need to leave healers as HEALERS..not dps/heals. If you want that, go play FF or something. I wish healing was just as it was in classic. Now you just have healers who dont heal because they are busy trying to DPS..it's so stupid.
oh and again I will be all up in these new player wow comments telling people to get a guild. the mythical magical community of old is not going to build itself, and Blizz is not making any design choices to incentivize anything but playing wow like skyrim so its up to us, the community, to build it ourselves.
I love healing a lot and honestly what this game is missing is a necromancer healer. There are literally no dark themed healers in this game. And don’t come at me with disc priest cause that don’t count.
the most common mistake I see from new healers, or just chronic dps players, is spamming one button when the out going damage goes up at all. too often I will see someone immediately spam flash heal, chain heal, regrowth, vivify, flash of light. this is then followed up with "wow that was a lot of damage, this is stressful" and of course I have to gently say it was stressful because you ignored all cooldowns, and synergies. It explains why people say healing is leagues harder now. In every expansion pre legion spamming one ability was 90% of HPS.
@@jonathan13co you don't need mouseover macros nowadays, there is a setting that allows you to do that without macros, which is good to have but not mandatory, focus macros etc are more important in my opinion
I'd recommend NO HEALING ! for anyone that wants to have fun in game do not play a healer now ! it's the most stressful and hardest role in the game. You'll always feel pressure on yourself and most of the time play under alot of tension. Healing sucks now and people mostly die in dungeons due to their fault but they will blame you for their mistakes and it's terrible so don't choose a healer role.
its funny because healing is SOOOOOOO much harder than any other role...like to the point where its like playing a different game entirely. Also bad players will ALWAYS blame the healer when they died because they didnt kick or stood in something. Its worse than tanking by FAR. Blizz really needs to make healing easier or else healer players will continue to dwindle.
@@MarcelianOnline how can healing be hard without worrying about mana? you can spam cast forever and never go below 25% mana lmfao oh ya it so hard. you clowns dont like truth hence why you produce contrived thoughts and say there reality!!!!
1- Find friends that will help you, cause pugs are such assholes that they will flame you for not healing them through avoidable damage. And people will troll you for asking questions
As a long time healer imho everyone should start with resto shaman. It is very straight forward & it has several emergency buttons if you mess up. You even have a self rez in case of a group wipe.
Agreed.
I think holy priest is more straight forward. Resto requires some set up and more mama management while holy doesn’t require any setup and less utility to have to think about it.
@@marycorn3621 Holy has holes in its kit that shammy does not have (for instance an interrupt & a poison cleanse) & is therefore more reliant on good pug groups which can put new healers in bad situations.
Resto shammy is completely reactive & has a solution for every situation while keeping its normal rotation very simple.
to many buttons with restro it is easy class but not for keybinding jesus its a nightmare with all the totums
@@Dan-iy2nri agree with that. Too too many buttons
My advice is, don't play healer if you are in the pug life. It's not worth it. Play tank of dps, it'll be more enjoyable.
But if you like healing, find a group. I puged all the way to 2.8k IO as a druid healer and ... it was my worse nightmare. Don't do this to yourself. Healing isn't fun, at all.
DPS without a doubt is not enjoyable, well, if you don't mind waiting tons of time in queue, your main problem is the healer, druid is not that good pug wise, if you would have trying shaman/priest or mw you would have a different experience
I find it fun.
@@asasdsaasda I'm enjoying to play my hunter and make the grind again, it's been pretty easy to find groups or assemble one. But i've tried shaman/priest/monk/paladin/druid, and only druid has the game play that i like, as a healer. And i'm not trying evoker, cuz nobody stands in the range for the spells to be effective.
(Resto shaman main who also picked up tanking this season) I definitely think learning and becoming decently proficient at healing makes playing tank/dps much easier since you are already in the mindset of anticipating incoming damage (especially unavoidable damage), watching everyone’s CDs, and popping defensives/externals accordingly. It forces you to have a more wholistic view and understanding of the content you are doing. Can be hard at first and you will always have room to improve but that’s what makes it rewarding! Also just mute everyone and think of it as a follower dungeons makes things easier 😂!
One of the most important and sometimes overlooked tips to healing: Use mouseovers for your heals! It makes it much easier. You can use an addon like cell or clique to immediately bind your heals to mouseovers instead of making a macro for each spell.
So much this. Clique for life. And you do not need to wonder about where your mouse is on the field when you are doing damage since clique does only bind on unitframes. Top-tier addon.
We need more healers
Yea and please not another melee healer its enough with monk/pala semi ranged spyro the dragon heals
preach!!
@@Deadneck it's literally only monk. Hpal has a ranged based healstyle and the melee style is getting nerfed next patch. Pres is ranged.
Tell blizz. I've been healing since vanilla and quit out of frustration in TWW. I'm doing EVERYTHING but tank mechanics.
We need a culture that helps healers learn and not toxic players trash talking struggling healers.
Multi Rank 1 Rsham here. My suggestion is to test a few different healers out, level them up in timewalking and run them through LFR or normal. Don't lose sight of what's fun in pursuit of choosing the meta healer, because the meta changes. Whatever healer that you become most accustomed to will be the best healer for you, because healing is about timing more than anything. HMU if you need any healing tips, I'm glad to give advice to those that want to improve.
Do not play heal at the moment ! Till blizzard change it to more easy healing !
Really good video! I came back to healing for the TWW and even though there have been some tough moments this season, I love healing. I started as a healer 18 years ago in WoW, I've played tank, rdps and mdps to check it out and had fun, however;. today I play all healer classes and I won't go back. I'm a lifer when it comes to this role.
What healers do you prefer? 😊 I played Resto Shammy, but am debating about MW or Hpally
Mouse over macros
Take the time to set up the macros, it is the single strongest step you can possibly take. Yes, some add-ons can work, but I really do think they are all vastly inferior.
Start with 5 man content like heroics. Enable raid frames for all content.
Ive never healed before this season and im currently upto 2600 as a resto shaman with pugs. Its crazy how you can tell after the first pull what kind of run its going to be. Some groups i do very little, and then other groups im spamming the tank and dps every pull. Gear doesnt seem to be helping as i healed 10s at 605 and depending on the group it can be just as hard at 630 as it was at 605. Therefore you never feel progression if that makes sense?
Salutare :)
at minute 6:10 whats the right side addon that shows the upcoming spells??
I’m going from holy pala in cataclysm classic to holy pala in retail. When I first got back in to retail again I went with frost DK because of its transmogs. But now I wanna push myself in retail healing instead of just classic, this video gave me that extra push
Like you said, the best way to get into healing is definitely normal/heroic dungeons. I got into mistweaver by spamming timewalking dungeons. Super fast queues gave me lots of practice
I love playing Warrior DPS so I gave Holy Paladin a try cuz of the playstyle and love a melee healer
Recommending Holy Priest at this very moment is bad idea x.x
I understand general idea .. usually it's the best one to recomment to players to learn healing with.
And yes usually sentiment of classes being better or worse is only for highest level of gaming. I do main Holy Priest and I do manage
But in this very patch your entire group have to work to catch up all your weaknesses, you have to call for everyone to use CDs at specific timings. Holy is very bad idea for PuGs.
Playing as mistweaver is good if you are used to DPS.
Just jadefire stomp, then do your dps rotation. That will work in 90% of situations.
The rest you can play with and learn as you go along.
Which would be the easiest healer that has a tank spec (druid, monk, paladin)?
Thank you good sir
I started holy paladin was pretty simple
I would recommend Holy Pala, especially AC Lightbringer, very fun.
Ya, it can be fun, but you have to really track CDs to play that well. During downtime you play very differently.
I really would not recommend melee wings as a beginner spec for healing
Problem I have with healing, is Blizzard nerfed healer DPS so much that you're forced to switch specs just to enjoy world content.
I shouldn't have to learn another spec, and switch from what I'm enjoying just to do world content quickly.
Tanks, and healers should get a buff "World on your shoulders" or something where when NOT in a group
Our damage is buffed MASSIVELY.
I’m a beginner player and coming from console. Disc priest catch my eye cause of the game play damage and heal. But I have it learn a lot before the high gameplay
As a former healer i must say, pick a healer with a damage spec you enjoy because playing whack-a-mole gets super annoying after a month.
You made me interessted in healing 😅 what about Paly is this also a good starter class?
And interface i have problems with Vuhdo i have more Keys left for other binds but need to change the interface :/ and if not i need to do all this macros and switch all keys :/
Right now no class is good to heal with. Healing sucks this expansion and it's the worst role you can choose. You'll only get trashed, bashed ,feel pressure all the time on you and you'll have a bad time. Don't play a healer now , it sucks big time !
Healium addon is what I use. I love it. It removes all the thinking, since you have all the healing button in front of each name. it makes it so easy and fast to react. If Healium addon get removed from the game, is the day I stop playing wow, since my main is healer.
Heyo, great video. What is the name of the personal frame addon? Thanks
Looks like he is using the addon "cell". Very very good for healers.
i can figure out rotation on DPS, i can figure out aggro and postioning on tank, no guides needed for both... but heal... Oh man, I either burn my mana in 10 seconds becauise I want to top everyone, or just panic and everyone dies... healing is so stressful for me, even on normal (616 shaman) people will still die. healing is SO EFING HARD in this game, and it would be easier but people, oh boy, people are the worst kind of creatures under sun, people are what makes healing stressful
I would absolutely put hours in to switching my main to healing. But the amount of crap they seem to take from groups, plus the bad role fidelity right now means the juice ain't worth the squeeze
Wait for season 2 with healing maybe. For now when youre playing a healer youre playing a piano and player healthbars barely moves. Its so bad to play right now.
I tried retail.. I healed with pally and resto druid in cata and wotlk. Got caught up in the hype of WW and decided to try it. I chose Pres evoker and shammy. I really don't understand the professions... I never saw the point of them and I didn't get anything I could use. I might not have been doing it properly but you can't just find a recipe or buy a recipe and have a great item. I found I spent all my time waiting and then once I had waited if we had a wipe people would leave and I was back to waiting. I decided to start classic fresh again instead and I will never play retail again.. I can find the best items playing with randoms in classic. I can grind the same dungeon over and over to get what I need. I don't know why I want the gear in retail... They are all slight upgrades and gear scores is really all that matters. The gear sucks so I wait a lot and I don't know what I am waiting for.
So, about that sweater you are wearing, specifically the two deer on it ...
I’ll preface this by saying i’m mostly a pvper and therefore not up to date on pve balance however as someone who prefers healing, they need to get healers balanced, I don’t want to be in a position where I feel i’m actively hindering my party because I didn’t pick the meta healer, in terms of pvp that would be Holy Pala or Disc Priest currently.
Macro all the way for each spell as healer.
Well, I will not be healing or tanking in dungeons again, back in wrath of the lich king and cataclysm people was toxic towards me and dungeon groups are even more toxic today. If wasnt toxic back then and still toxic, I would not mind tanking and healing, but I guess people want to be toxic instead of getting groups abit more quick.
Thank you :)
Tbh... what we need is more tanks. I never see adventurer in need for healers.
We need ppl helps healers learn and not toxic players with trash talking about struggling healers .. this is the truth that why no one wanna try to be a healer :))
Healer or tank more in demand?
Yes
Between getting bashed by bad dps and no knowledge tanks, healing checks , weird mechanics healing is not fun unless you enjoy more stress on top of your day unless your with a coordinated group healing is most of the time trash in pugs
it’s rough out there
My rule of thumb that hasn't let me down, I over gear for the content I'm running and sure the one shot mechanics are unavoidable, however; it's far and few between. I've found there are more good players than bad in my experience. Mistakes happen and small handful of players just don't learn to avoid bad stuff, people genuinely want to get better and play. I main healer for m+ and raids.
I love healing. Holy pala for life. Felt like blizz did healers dirty af season 1. Said they would nerf the damage and nerf the healing and make things slower and more gradual. Nah fam all you did was nerf me and people’s health bars still spike af. Felt like I had to work so much harder than past seasons and it was less enjoyable
Healers get absolutely gutted, in Dungeons, in Delves, in Raid, in RL. 😂😂😂 Glad I never choose that spec.
Heal in raid, far less stressful.
I swear you guys have posted this video like 23 times already?? Good luck
In future guys! Thanks for everything.
I'm getting stressed just looking at it.
What about holy paladins
Decent healers, very hard to play in tough content 😌
The community doesn’t need new healers. It needs people to stop being dicks and people to play their classes properly.
They need to leave healers as HEALERS..not dps/heals. If you want that, go play FF or something. I wish healing was just as it was in classic. Now you just have healers who dont heal because they are busy trying to DPS..it's so stupid.
I really cant do it :( in retail atleast . Classic ez
It’s just so ehh
Some of us need a how to tank lol 😢
I like your shirt
oh and again I will be all up in these new player wow comments telling people to get a guild. the mythical magical community of old is not going to build itself, and Blizz is not making any design choices to incentivize anything but playing wow like skyrim so its up to us, the community, to build it ourselves.
I rly want to heal, but the frame mouseover gameplay is so freaking boring... So healing is not just hard, but unfun
start with a stiff drink.
I love healing a lot and honestly what this game is missing is a necromancer healer. There are literally no dark themed healers in this game. And don’t come at me with disc priest cause that don’t count.
So the spec that is the thing you want doesn't count because? The name is wrong?
What? No im saying disc priest isn’t a full dark themed healer.
the most common mistake I see from new healers, or just chronic dps players, is spamming one button when the out going damage goes up at all. too often I will see someone immediately spam flash heal, chain heal, regrowth, vivify, flash of light. this is then followed up with "wow that was a lot of damage, this is stressful" and of course I have to gently say it was stressful because you ignored all cooldowns, and synergies. It explains why people say healing is leagues harder now. In every expansion pre legion spamming one ability was 90% of HPS.
Mouseover macros are unnecessary. Especially if you move with your mouse
They are mandatory, and who tf moves with their mouse? Even outside of healing you need it to swap targets, cast AoE abilities etc...
@@jonathan13co you don't need mouseover macros nowadays, there is a setting that allows you to do that without macros, which is good to have but not mandatory, focus macros etc are more important in my opinion
Don’t do it!! You’ll never be allowed to play another role 😂😂
don't get into wow
My best advice from one healer to another; don't pug, find yourself a friend group or guild group.
You'll have so much more fun.
You don't 😂
I admire your ability to create quality content! Thank you for your hard work and creativity.🦀🦍💝
As a 19 year old, wow is very boring when the game is full of folks in their 40’s
haha, welp the game has been around longer than you.
19 year old are 100% more annoying.
You'll grow up and the caffeine will wear off.
No one is forcing you to play it lol. You would be better off playing Fortnite, full of annoying younglings 😂😂
@@xalatath69 I’m gonna play with you
A lot of 30+ people are far more interesting to game with than people under 20
How to get healers? blizzard start making a new expansion don't waste anytime anymore in wow the suck within
I'd recommend NO HEALING ! for anyone that wants to have fun in game do not play a healer now ! it's the most stressful and hardest role in the game. You'll always feel pressure on yourself and most of the time play under alot of tension. Healing sucks now and people mostly die in dungeons due to their fault but they will blame you for their mistakes and it's terrible so don't choose a healer role.
its funny because healing is SOOOOOOO much harder than any other role...like to the point where its like playing a different game entirely. Also bad players will ALWAYS blame the healer when they died because they didnt kick or stood in something. Its worse than tanking by FAR. Blizz really needs to make healing easier or else healer players will continue to dwindle.
Playing resto Druid atm in m+, not going to sugar coat it its awfull!
But at least I am doing my part 🫡
all anyone can ask!
healing isnt difficult... piss poor gameplay from 90% of wows population are trash gamers
making healers quit and go play other games!!!!
Or maybe its bc people have a toxic outlook on things like you who would rather shame people then teach them.
ok 👍
@@sampearson4585 practice on your own time not on others time... show/have some respect for others and do your part ass clown
@@MarcelianOnline over 8 million downloads of an add on called "gse" proves me point batty boi!👍🤣
@@MarcelianOnline how can healing be hard without worrying about mana?
you can spam cast forever and never go below 25% mana lmfao
oh ya it so hard. you clowns dont like truth hence why you produce contrived thoughts and say there reality!!!!