I recently found your channel while searching for a Thinline ESV that won't kill my eyeballs. (Apparently, such a thing does not yet exist.) But I just wanted to say I'm impressed with how thorough your reviews are. I'm not even interested in a Catholic Bible, yet here I am watching this.
Thanks for the kind remarks, Yesica! If you were interested in Catholic Bibles, I'd try to steer you to one with a larger font! This one's for youngsters with microscopes for eyeballs.
Actually, I have this Bible and I don't have a problem reading its small print and I'm very near-sighted. Obviously, I have to wear my thick glasses. But I think the reason is that the font and print are so crisp and clear. Another commenter remarked how some Bibles are printed with varying degrees of bold and faded letters and I have noticed that, too, but with this CTS Bible, that isn't the case. Most people, unless they are severely visually impaired, could probably read this edition with a pair of drugstore reading glasses. If I can read it, anyone can. LOL
I am deeply happy to discover your channel here on You Tube, and I feel flattered to be able to watch your Bible reviews, I am Catholic and I have the habit of studying the Bible with notes and references. thanks for your explanations.
Thank you for your valuable contribution to a deeper understanding of English translations of the Bible. I have been enjoying them for three years and know of no source of such information comparable to yours. I was pleased to see your critique of the notes to this Bible. It is ironic that the Bible includes extracts from Vatican II Dei document, including paragraph 10, which clearly states "the word of God, interpreted by the teaching office of the Church...". Paragraph 12 states " attention must be given to ... the living tradition of the Church." The CCC para, 113, q
Dear R.G.Jones the notes in the new Catholic Bible and n.j.b. are opinion of biblical scholarship in the modernist strain and flow with the wind. I like you're reviews very much thank you. P.S. l listened to a few tonight they are the best I have heard.thanks.
This is one of the Bibles I would like to own and that is on my list of Bibles to acquire. I do own a Jerusalem Bible, the original from 1966, which I’m quite fortunate to have gotten my hands on, especially because I have it in excellent condition, and in a sort of faux leather. It has been well preserved. The notes are extremely liberal, as you know, and I see the difficulty of reckoning it with Dei Verbum, which stresses the absolute direct inerrancy of Scripture. I suppose my personal opinion is somewhere in the middle, leaning toward traditional views. Thank you for this review. The Bible would be valuable because of its sewn binding, which is unusual in most Catholic Bibles. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the comment, Winnie! If you decide to get one - and they aren't very expensive - I recommend you try the standard edition rather than this compact. Although readable, the font in the compact is quite small. When the complete RNJB comes out in a few weeks, it will be interesting to see if the notes in its Old Testament are the same as those in the CTS New Catholic Bible.
You can buy a copy of any of the CTS Bibles on line directly from the Catholic Truth Society. The full size hardback version with shipping will cost around $40.
I have the Standard Edition of the CTS New Catholic Bible and can read it fairly well with reading glasses (2.5 magnification). I too have presbyopia (being 65) and I enjoy the CTS bible very much. It is the bible from which the readings in the liturgy are taken (In Australia). The footnotes are interesting but need not be taken to heart since they are opinions based on various scholarly interpretations of evidence and take a scholarly perspective which often signifies a forensic naturalistic perspective that an atheist as well as a believer can appreciate without necessarily accepting as "the last word" on the subject. There is another bible translation called "The New Catholic Bible" in a Saint Joseph edition. It appears to be a USA Catholic word sponsored by the Catholic Book Publishing Company. I have not seen it but ordered a copy and hope to receive it in a few weeks or days. If you come across it I'd be curious to know how you rate it on your continuum of 'literalness' in translation and also how closely if follows its source texts.
Great review and love your videos! Just gotta say after seeing many of your videos on Catholic Bibles, that those intros and footnotes that suggest that prophetical texts in Scripture must have been written later, that Daniel was a fictional character, that Genesis is based off of other ancient creation myths, etc etc does not reflect what the Catholic Church teaches yesterday, today or in the future. What you read at the beginning was Dei Verbum which dogmatically defines what the Church teaches (which means you must hold this to be true as a Catholic) on Sacred Scripture and God's Revelation in general. So for the editors of those translations or of those specific editions to say stuff like that and for it to get the nihil obsat and imprimatur just means they're barely riding that line of heresy so as to make it through I guess. Pretty sad, it's a method of Scripture analysis called the modern historical-critical method that as you can tell seems to take God out of the analysis and simply make assumptions. What Dei Verbum says and I believe you mentioned Leo XIII's Providentisimus Deus and other such documents is what the Church actually teaches and I encourage you to read them (maybe you have already)...don't get false views from those other texts. Anyway, you do a great job being objective in your reviews and I appreciate that! You've reviewed some Douay-Rheims Bibles which are pretty much always going to uphold the orthodoxy of the faith and some others but there's also the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible by Dr. Hahn, the Navarre Bible, and the Word on Fire Bible is coming out in a few days. Would love to see reviews of those! Thanks and God bless!
Thank you for that informative comment, and for the recommendations! Yes, I've read all the documents of Vatican II -- though not in recent few years. I came across Providentisimus Deus back in the '80s, and I was surprised then by the contrast between what Pope Leo wrote and what I saw in the modern American Catholic Church. Regarding the recommendations, I considered the Navarre Bible, but I think it's a bit too expensive for me. Perhaps if I read Latin the purchase would make sense. The Word on Fire Bible seems to have been reviewed quite a few times on UA-cam already, so I may skip that one as well. I received a copy of the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible about a week ago. I haven't had time to examine it yet, but at some point I'll post a review. Thanks again for the comment, and may God bless you and yours!
PS, the notes you read was the BS that I was taught in seminary in the early 70s and the Jerusalem Bible notes are actually the science of Scripture study by the German Lutheran Church in the 1800s in the era of Darwin... The demythologyzing of scriptures. The Catechism of the Catholic Church condemns such teachings. I know a number of Baptists that were taught this as well and went Evangelical or Eastern Orthodox.
I have had this edition of the J.B. for several years. It is my favourite (and "go-to") for this translation, which the alterations really do improve. This edition of the J.B. became the official Bible for liturgical use in England, although I think that by now it has been displaced by another translation. Here in the Dominion of Canada, it is the N.R.S.V. (Catholic Ed.) which is the official version for liturgical use (unless that has changed very recently).
When in doubt...go with the REVISED STANDARD VERSION [RSV]...whether it be "a Catholic edition"..."a Protestant edition"...or "an Ecumenical edition". An outstanding "Ecumenical edition" of the RSV is the 1977 Text Edition of THE NEW OXFORD ANNOTATED BIBLE WITH THE APOCRYPHA...it's available in hardcover and genuine leather editions...! Blessings.
The Church is replacing this translation in Britain with the ESV-CE translation. From the publisher: "This item is now out of print and will be replaced by a new edition containing the updated Lectionary translations (ESV and Abbey Psalms)."
@@PadraigTomaswhen I went back to the CTS website, the new CTS Bible is still in stock but not the both previous weekdays and weekends missals including the lectionaries.🥲 So here in Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei r still using the J.B lectionaries and missals and we aren't to unilaterally switch to the ESVCE lectionary as we familiar with the J.B. Now we're waiting for the new lectionaries from the Catholic Bishops' Conference of Australia and New Zealand and they're still drafting the book based on the N.J.B.
I have had a copy of the CTS bible for many years now as its the publisher to the Holy See here in England so the priests are reading from CTS bibles. HOWEVER....I have recently discovered that in Philippians 2:12-13 it reads...'work FOR your salvation with fear and trembling' whereas in all other bibles it reads 'work OUT your salvation with fear and trembling'. Can you shed any light on this? I spoke to CTS and they said it means the same thing. Thanks.
I would suggest that what we now understand as prophecies needed to have made sense to their original hearers for them to have been peserved, so I don't get my knickers knotted by the footnotes, which I see as an amplification perhaps f the historicity of the book. I am, btw, a quite conservative sort of Christian and Bible reader, and I am not a fan of the effort to make translations that correcct the text. At the same time, I have enjoyed the Jerusalem Bible for year because oof its literary quality. I think one can use it very effectively to convey the narrative of Gd's cntinuing work to reconcile us errant sheep to himelf.
The is another New Catholic Bible out there, not controlled by CTC. I strongly recommend it. Among other things it preserves the scriptures that the JB tossed out.
Another great review. I like the Jerusalem Bible and would love a Study Bible based on it but one that replaced YHWH with Lord and had proper orthodox Catholic notes. Too much to hope for these days unfortunately.
The text translation and grail psalter in this bible edition is used in the Catholic liturgy in Commonwealth countries, as approved by the Council of Bishops in UK.
Thanks for the review. I’m looking for a small Catholic Bible. I’m in the UK and it’s really hard to find any Catholic Bible in the usual shops let along a small one.
This is my favorite bible to read aloud. I don't think you mentioned that this is basically the text used in the English liturgy outside the United States. The Grail Psalter was specifically made to be sung or read aloud, and supposedly matches the rhythm of the Hebrew.
@@RGrantJones I hope you also do a review of the same-titled "New Catholic Bible" published in the U.S. by the Catholic Book Publishing which is a totally different and new translation.
Thanks for commenting, Rudolf. The only Septuagint (in Greek) that I own and haven't reviewed yet is Brenton's. It's widely available and there are several reviews online. I also have Charles Thomson's English translation, and the NETS -- neither of which I've reviewed yet. But if I keep making these videos, they'll appear sooner or later. You're going to have to go elsewhere for your Tanakh reviews.
I have placed RNJB as my Readers Bible, it is a very good one in that category. Not a study Bible it is, which is sad. Translation reads really well. I think I will buy ESV or Ignatius Study Bible to replace it. The book intros for RNJB comes from CTS I think, not much info. It also calls Jonah and Daniel a fictional story, notes are partially skeptical. But approved by Catholic Church which has the official position that Adam and Eve is also a fictional religious story.
cont'd ...The CCC para 113, quoting Vatican II, states "Read the Scripture within the Tradition of the whole Church". Below is a review of this Bible I wrote in 2015: " I have had the deluxe and travel editions for a number of years. They are both beautifully presented and the liturgical notes and lectionary are an excellent feature. The Catholic Truth Society have produced some wonderful material over the years and so it gives me no pleasure to suggest that the notes in this bible are, in my opinion, a disappointment. In the foreword Henry Wansbrough, who did such a splendid job on the reworked New Jerusalem Bible in 1985 with wonderfully helpful introductions and notes expresses deep gratitude to Bernard Robinson and Ian Boxall who "worked through the Notes". Apart from an over emphasis on sometimes trivial historico-literary critical comment at the expense of spiritual and theological assistance some comments simply annoy by casting doubt or confusion on well-accepted Church usage and understanding for centuries. For example, a note on the Magnificat offers the gratuitous comment that some attribute this to Elizabeth. A note on 1John 5 states "Possibly "came by water" refers to a view that Jesus became Son of God only at baptism .."! Both the Standard editions of the New Jerusalem Bible and the 1966 Jerusalem Bible have sensible, helpful notes on these verses and I can only suppose that Henry Wansborough has not read notes in the CTS edition. With the introductions and notes of the Jerusalem or New Jerusalem Bibles or similar quality I would have given five stars."
Thanks for viewing and commenting, Gypsy! I intend to keep adding translations to the continuum, so you should expect to continue to see minor changes in the scores. But I don't think more literal necessarily means better, at least the way I define literal. If you took the ASV, removed most of the introductory conjunctions, replaced "answered them, saying" with "replied" wherever it occurred, and replaced "he" with "Jesus" for clarity a few times, you'd end up with a far less literal translation. But I suspect most people would prefer it to the original.
I now use the CTS Bible, although I use the standard size edition. I like the single column format. Prior to getting this Bible I used the RSV - Catholic Edition. This used a 2 column format and smaller print, so I find the CTS Bible easier to read. Also I prefer the footnotes in the CTS, to the endnotes in the RSVCE. The RSVCE has a section of endnotes at the end of the OT and another at the end of the NT. However I'm puzzled as to why the books of the Maccabees are placed between Esther and Job rather than in their more traditional [and historically correct] position at the end of the OT.
The “historically correct” placement is between Esther and Job. Maccabees is one of the books of history, so it is placed at the end of the books of history. That is where it is placed in the Septuagint when the text first appeared. Putting it at the end of the OT was first done by Jerome without any explanation or reason. You may prefer having the books there, but to say that it’s the “historically correct” placement is just not true.
@@louisrharmony It is historically correct at the end of the OT, as the events they recall happened in the 2nd century BC, between the time of Malachi and the NT.
@@michaelhaywood8262 If you prefer Maccabees at the end of the bible that is fine, but understand that you’re reasoning is flawed. The Bible is not organized strictly chronologically. If it were organized chronologically, you would see them ordered (roughly due to debates about chronology): Pentateuch, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, Samuel, Kings, Obadiah, Joel, Jonah, Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, Micah, Nahum, Habakuk, Zephaniah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Haggai, Zechariah, Esther, Ezra, Nehemiah, Malachi, Maccabees. As I said, Maccabees was always placed at the end of the books of history. Jerome changed that placement and traditional Catholic bibles based on the Vulgate followed suit. Most modern bibles move them back to their original placement in the Septuagint. Even in the Septuagint the books of Maccabees aren’t in chronological order, as 3 Maccabees takes place 40 years prior to 1 Maccabees.
That's strange ; CTS say even later editions carried the same errors and omissions. DAN 12 v.1 is incomplete it omits after the words: "There is going to be a time of great distress" the sentence : "unparalleled since nations first came into existence......... written in the book. Also note Map 3 (Palestine of the New Testament) the spelling GALLILEE (sic). As I said there are quite a few other e&o's too.
Anybody knows where can I buy this version exactly but bigger? I've got this one, but the font is anti-human, really ;) My eyes hurt after longer reading.
Dang I was hoping I could buy this bible. I do want catholic "dynamic equivalent" bible for devotional reading but still faithful and not trying to be super modern and politically correct. I also don't want one with all the historic-critical commentary and footnotes. Nor do I want to give my money to publishers who subscribe to it. I did buy another version of the Jersualem bible, but the printing was atrocious - inconsistent font colours, from so faint and barely readable to super bold you think they were trying to make each verse a title. Not to mention blurry fonts. Will have to keep searching.
@Dillon Leaf While there are some translation issues with a few verses that make the CTS/Jerusalem bible problematic for catholic theology, as a bible just to read devotionally it's okay. The real problem is the introductory paragraphs to some of the books of the bible that call into question the divine authorship of scripture, like saying Moses didn't write the pentateuch, David didn't write psalms, Matthew didn't write the gospel of Matthew, that st. Paul didn't write the letter to the hebrews, and that St. Peter didn't write 2 Peter.
@@Cyanstone Hey you're still evaluating Study bibles? 🙂 I guess you need to figure out, do you want just a bible, or a study bible that has extensive commentary? Generally if a Catholic has a bible, it should have commentary that explains the scripture in terms of the faith so that we don't get into private interpretation. CTS/Jerusalem is a nice translation to make scripture easier to read. So if you can keep yourself from listening to the notes its good. The most traditionally catholic studying bible would be the Douay-Rheims bible with George Haydock commentary, produced before Vatican 2. The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible is very traditional in its notes, but there is only the New Testament. Which might fit your needs as the Haydock bible is probably the most expensive study bible due to its size and limited run. The Didache bible is good if you want study notes that connect scripture to the JP2 Catechism. Hope that helps. R. Grant Jones has done reviews on the Ignatius catholic study bible and the Didache Study Bible. Both use the RSV-CE translation of the bible.
Thanks for the question. Here are my reasons: Red letters often cause me eye strain -- actual physical pain. Publishers seem to have difficulty printing them evenly, so you’re more likely to find faded sections of red text. Black text is often printed on the opposite side of the page, causing show-through/ghosting, and I find red characters on a cluttered background harder to read than black characters on the same background. I made a video on this topic, which can be viewed here: ua-cam.com/video/Bzz2Bu9IjrA/v-deo.html .
Thanks for your explanation, I had that in mind somewhat. I enjoy your videos. Can you review the new “The Defined King James Bible?” Also I am a fan of the red text in the cambridge cameo reference in Blue Goatskin ( I own this one.)
I have read some Apocrypha books, like Judith and Tobit. I think Protestants and Jews were correct to take Apocypha writings out of their Bibles. I really like Psalm 151, attributed to David, however it was composed much later than King David's time period, it is not his writing probably. Deuterocanonical books are strange to include in any Bible (Jerome agrees). Also, when it comes to choosing the canon, a smaller and conservative canon makes sense, the longer ones can contain more and more errors, and 'human' additions.
As a TradCat, I basically ignore anything from Vatican 2 though I follow Pope Benedict and Cardinal Sarah. I have a WW 2 Confraternity Bible with footnotes that reflect the teachings of the Church Fathers. I wish they would bring that edition back in print and you can get used copies on Amazon.
I recently read _Infiltration_ by Taylor Marshall and _Christus Vincit_ by Bishop Schneider. Very interesting perspective -- and one I've only recently been exposed to. That Confraternity Bible sounds worthwhile. Is it known by a special name, or should I simply search for 'Confraternity Bible' and check for notes from the Fathers?
@@RGrantJones Look for Confraternity Bible or Confraternity-Douay version. You may also find some on E-bay. I was lucky, I found one at Half Price Books for $5.00 and one on a dollar cart at my friend's parish. The one with the traditional notes is from 1942, while the other is from 1956 and that is when the modernist changes started creeping into the footnotes, ie DANIEL, etc. I was hoping that I could send one copy (published by Bennzinger Brother (always a good sign) to a publisher that reprints old Catholic books. If you cannot find a copy, I will gladly send you one of mine. This was the modern translation (New Testament only) which was popular from the 1930s thru the 1960s until the other translations started coming out. Like you I have read INFILTRATION and I find it also interesting that Hillary Clinton and the Podesta brothers visited Pope Benedict two months before he resigned. I think that they presented him with transcripts of all corruption going on in the Vatican and Vatican bank with money laundering and the sexual deviancy and I think Benedict either resigned out of a feeling of overwhelming helplessness or was threatened in some way. But it seems to fulfill the prophecy of St. Malachi that Benedict would be the last valid Pope until the last one during the reign of the Antichrist, the Elijah and/or Enoch. I will order the Didache version and have 6 versions now:KJV, Jerusalem, RSV, Confraternity, Orthodox Study Bible, and NKJV.
@@RGrantJones you can get a confraternity new testament pocket bible as a reprint from scepter publishers for around 11 dollars. The quality isnt great a couple of pages weren't cut properly. Its a good translation and is a updated version of the douay rheims. It would be interesting to see a comparison between the douay and the confraternity I hope that helps. The version i have doesnt have any notes of the church fathers though.
The current official bible of the Vatican is the New Vulgate, inaugurated during the early years of JP2's time as Pope Various local translations are subject to the regional body of bishops deciding on what is what, so NAB/RE is the official English one for those under the US Catholic Council of Bishops, but the British Catholic Bishops can decide their own translations etc...
I have that sense of scorn rising within me again. If they don't believe the bible is more than a collection of fairy tales, including much that is written of the first century Church why do they even bother? If I was just someone curious about Christianity and Christ and stumbled on this bible I would probably discard everything, including my seeking. They don't seem to believe they will have to answer for what they have produced on the day of judgment. There are a couple of other Latin Bibles I would have no qualms about using, though I'm not Roman Catholic. Douay-Reims is ok and the other day I downloaded the Didache Bible and the NRSVCE, though I'm not all that keen on the NRSV. My eyes are also getting old which is one small reason I like digital copies.
A few reasons off the top of my head: To read and evaluate the translation. To have access to the Deuterocanonical books in that translation. To examine the notes to learn what Catholics are being taught.
Mas Gonderawi I’m not Protestant though. The Baptist’s were around before the reform of Martin. Although the silent years are not scripture or the Words of God they are historical books my friend. So your ignorant because of what your church tells you rather than studying the scriptures yourself. I was “Catholic” for 18 years. Do you know Catholics believe Peter was the first Pope. Peter was married so how would that work. Do you know Catholics pray to a dead woman named marry in hope that she will intercede for them. Not knowing that Christ is our one and only advocate with the Father. Did you know Catholics believe The Pope will take the place of Christ and set up to rule and reign in His stead. Did you know the Catholic Church thinks what they say supersedes scripture. Did you know the Catholic Church already changed theyre stance on purgatory? Nope. I hope you come to the saving knowledge of the truth. Its Faith my Grace. In Christ alone. There is no Jacobs ladder.
The Truth Bible is the Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV). end off. Why New Catholic Bible Or NKJB did God speak to Pope or whoever wrote NKJB? The last person God spoke was Our Apostle Paul. End Off. Please stop deceiving people and just all-out making money from innocence people. The Best Bible which is the word of God is Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV). Philippians 1:6 AKJV being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: God is coming back for the Church soon... Get Saved today- The Gospel is 1 Corinthian 15:1-4
Jimmy J - I don't make any money from these videos, and the Bibles I review are either purchased with my own money or are presents from close relatives. Thanks for commenting!
Jimmy J - I don't make any money from these videos, and the Bibles I review are either purchased with my own money or are presents from close relatives. Thanks for commenting!
The true Bible is the Greek text of the Septuagint (closer to the original Hebrew than the current Hebrew, which is a 9th century Jewish edit) and the Greek of the New Testament. END OF. (Also it's either AV or KJV, there is no "AKJV". You are making yourself look profoundly stupid.)
That is a Protestant Bible that came out after the Douay-Rheims and used it as inspiration. As to being "authorised" it was commissioned by a 17th century Protestant King who doesn't hold any authority over Catholics or anyone else these days.
What absolute "holier-than-thou blather" from a Protestant Fundamentalist. When was "the last time" YOU and others of "your ilk" literally gave up "everything" to follow "in the footsteps" of Our Lord..."thou hypocrite"...LOL 😅. End off...kahpeesh...? 😇.
I recently found your channel while searching for a Thinline ESV that won't kill my eyeballs. (Apparently, such a thing does not yet exist.) But I just wanted to say I'm impressed with how thorough your reviews are. I'm not even interested in a Catholic Bible, yet here I am watching this.
Thanks for the kind remarks, Yesica! If you were interested in Catholic Bibles, I'd try to steer you to one with a larger font! This one's for youngsters with microscopes for eyeballs.
Actually, I have this Bible and I don't have a problem reading its small print and I'm very near-sighted. Obviously, I have to wear my thick glasses. But I think the reason is that the font and print are so crisp and clear. Another commenter remarked how some Bibles are printed with varying degrees of bold and faded letters and I have noticed that, too, but with this CTS Bible, that isn't the case. Most people, unless they are severely visually impaired, could probably read this edition with a pair of drugstore reading glasses. If I can read it, anyone can. LOL
I am deeply happy to discover your channel here on You Tube, and I feel flattered to be able to watch your Bible reviews, I am Catholic and I have the habit of studying the Bible with notes and references. thanks for your explanations.
Thank you for the encouraging comment!
Thank you for your valuable contribution to a deeper understanding of English translations of the Bible. I have been enjoying them for three years and know of no source of such information comparable to yours.
I was pleased to see your critique of the notes to this Bible. It is ironic that the Bible includes extracts from Vatican II Dei document, including paragraph 10, which clearly states "the word of God, interpreted by the teaching office of the Church...". Paragraph 12 states " attention must be given to ... the living tradition of the Church."
The CCC para, 113, q
Dear R.G.Jones the notes in the new Catholic Bible and n.j.b. are opinion of biblical scholarship in the modernist strain and flow with the wind. I like you're reviews very much thank you. P.S. l listened to a few tonight they are the best I have heard.thanks.
This is one of the Bibles I would like to own and that is on my list of Bibles to acquire. I do own a Jerusalem Bible, the original from 1966, which I’m quite fortunate to have gotten my hands on, especially because I have it in excellent condition, and in a sort of faux leather. It has been well preserved. The notes are extremely liberal, as you know, and I see the difficulty of reckoning it with Dei Verbum, which stresses the absolute direct inerrancy of Scripture. I suppose my personal opinion is somewhere in the middle, leaning toward traditional views. Thank you for this review. The Bible would be valuable because of its sewn binding, which is unusual in most Catholic Bibles. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the comment, Winnie! If you decide to get one - and they aren't very expensive - I recommend you try the standard edition rather than this compact. Although readable, the font in the compact is quite small. When the complete RNJB comes out in a few weeks, it will be interesting to see if the notes in its Old Testament are the same as those in the CTS New Catholic Bible.
How do I please get one of the original Bible u own please
You can buy a copy of any of the CTS Bibles on line directly from the Catholic Truth Society. The full size hardback version with shipping will cost around $40.
I have the Standard Edition of the CTS New Catholic Bible and can read it fairly well with reading glasses (2.5 magnification). I too have presbyopia (being 65) and I enjoy the CTS bible very much. It is the bible from which the readings in the liturgy are taken (In Australia). The footnotes are interesting but need not be taken to heart since they are opinions based on various scholarly interpretations of evidence and take a scholarly perspective which often signifies a forensic naturalistic perspective that an atheist as well as a believer can appreciate without necessarily accepting as "the last word" on the subject.
There is another bible translation called "The New Catholic Bible" in a Saint Joseph edition. It appears to be a USA Catholic word sponsored by the Catholic Book Publishing Company. I have not seen it but ordered a copy and hope to receive it in a few weeks or days. If you come across it I'd be curious to know how you rate it on your continuum of 'literalness' in translation and also how closely if follows its source texts.
Thank you very much for all of your reviews.
Nice comment God bless you
Great review and love your videos! Just gotta say after seeing many of your videos on Catholic Bibles, that those intros and footnotes that suggest that prophetical texts in Scripture must have been written later, that Daniel was a fictional character, that Genesis is based off of other ancient creation myths, etc etc does not reflect what the Catholic Church teaches yesterday, today or in the future. What you read at the beginning was Dei Verbum which dogmatically defines what the Church teaches (which means you must hold this to be true as a Catholic) on Sacred Scripture and God's Revelation in general. So for the editors of those translations or of those specific editions to say stuff like that and for it to get the nihil obsat and imprimatur just means they're barely riding that line of heresy so as to make it through I guess. Pretty sad, it's a method of Scripture analysis called the modern historical-critical method that as you can tell seems to take God out of the analysis and simply make assumptions. What Dei Verbum says and I believe you mentioned Leo XIII's Providentisimus Deus and other such documents is what the Church actually teaches and I encourage you to read them (maybe you have already)...don't get false views from those other texts. Anyway, you do a great job being objective in your reviews and I appreciate that! You've reviewed some Douay-Rheims Bibles which are pretty much always going to uphold the orthodoxy of the faith and some others but there's also the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible by Dr. Hahn, the Navarre Bible, and the Word on Fire Bible is coming out in a few days. Would love to see reviews of those! Thanks and God bless!
www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19651118_dei-verbum_en.html
w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_18111893_providentissimus-deus.html
Thank you for that informative comment, and for the recommendations! Yes, I've read all the documents of Vatican II -- though not in recent few years. I came across Providentisimus Deus back in the '80s, and I was surprised then by the contrast between what Pope Leo wrote and what I saw in the modern American Catholic Church. Regarding the recommendations, I considered the Navarre Bible, but I think it's a bit too expensive for me. Perhaps if I read Latin the purchase would make sense. The Word on Fire Bible seems to have been reviewed quite a few times on UA-cam already, so I may skip that one as well. I received a copy of the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible about a week ago. I haven't had time to examine it yet, but at some point I'll post a review. Thanks again for the comment, and may God bless you and yours!
PS, the notes you read was the BS that I was taught in seminary in the early 70s and the Jerusalem Bible notes are actually the science of Scripture study by the German Lutheran Church in the 1800s in the era of Darwin... The demythologyzing of scriptures. The Catechism of the Catholic Church condemns such teachings. I know a number of Baptists that were taught this as well and went Evangelical or Eastern Orthodox.
Very bad footnotes. They are injurious to the spiritual life of some readers. Completely inappropriate to include.
I have had this edition of the J.B. for several years. It is my favourite (and "go-to") for this translation, which the alterations really do improve. This edition of the J.B. became the official Bible for liturgical use in England, although I think that by now it has been displaced by another translation. Here in the Dominion of Canada, it is the N.R.S.V. (Catholic Ed.) which is the official version for liturgical use (unless that has changed very recently).
Gerald, thanks for the informative comment.
When in doubt...go with the REVISED STANDARD VERSION [RSV]...whether it be "a Catholic edition"..."a Protestant edition"...or "an Ecumenical edition". An outstanding "Ecumenical edition" of the RSV is the 1977 Text Edition of THE NEW OXFORD ANNOTATED BIBLE WITH THE APOCRYPHA...it's available in hardcover and genuine leather editions...! Blessings.
The Church is replacing this translation in Britain with the ESV-CE translation.
From the publisher:
"This item is now out of print and will be replaced by a new edition containing the updated Lectionary translations (ESV and Abbey Psalms)."
@@PadraigTomaswhen I went back to the CTS website, the new CTS Bible is still in stock but not the both previous weekdays and weekends missals including the lectionaries.🥲
So here in Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei r still using the J.B lectionaries and missals and we aren't to unilaterally switch to the ESVCE lectionary as we familiar with the J.B. Now we're waiting for the new lectionaries from the Catholic Bishops' Conference of Australia and New Zealand and they're still drafting the book based on the N.J.B.
I have had a copy of the CTS bible for many years now as its the publisher to the Holy See here in England so the priests are reading from CTS bibles. HOWEVER....I have recently discovered that in Philippians 2:12-13 it reads...'work FOR your salvation with fear and trembling' whereas in all other bibles it reads 'work OUT your salvation with fear and trembling'. Can you shed any light on this? I spoke to CTS and they said it means the same thing. Thanks.
I would suggest that what we now understand as prophecies needed to have made sense to their original hearers for them to have been peserved, so I don't get my knickers knotted by the footnotes, which I see as an amplification perhaps f the historicity of the book. I am, btw, a quite conservative sort of Christian and Bible reader, and I am not a fan of the effort to make translations that correcct the text. At the same time, I have enjoyed the Jerusalem Bible for year because oof its literary quality. I think one can use it very effectively to convey the narrative of Gd's cntinuing work to reconcile us errant sheep to himelf.
The is another New Catholic Bible out there, not controlled by CTC. I strongly recommend it. Among other things it preserves the scriptures that the JB tossed out.
This is really interesting thank you 🙏
Have you seen the OTHER New Catholic Bible produced by the Catholic Book Publishing Company? I can't find a review of it anywhere.
No, I haven't.
Another great review. I like the Jerusalem Bible and would love a Study Bible based on it but one that replaced YHWH with Lord and had proper orthodox Catholic notes. Too much to hope for these days unfortunately.
The text translation and grail psalter in this bible edition is used in the Catholic liturgy in Commonwealth countries, as approved by the Council of Bishops in UK.
And in some non-commonwealth countries like Ireland.
Thanks for the review. I’m looking for a small Catholic Bible. I’m in the UK and it’s really hard to find any Catholic Bible in the usual shops let along a small one.
This is my favorite bible to read aloud. I don't think you mentioned that this is basically the text used in the English liturgy outside the United States. The Grail Psalter was specifically made to be sung or read aloud, and supposedly matches the rhythm of the Hebrew.
You're right. I knew it was popular in the UK, but I didn't realize it was so widely used. Thanks for the comment!
@@RGrantJones I hope you also do a review of the same-titled "New Catholic Bible" published in the U.S. by the Catholic Book Publishing which is a totally different and new translation.
Review more Septuagintas. And maybe some Tanakhs. I want to collect them and I would like reviews.
Thanks for commenting, Rudolf. The only Septuagint (in Greek) that I own and haven't reviewed yet is Brenton's. It's widely available and there are several reviews online. I also have Charles Thomson's English translation, and the NETS -- neither of which I've reviewed yet. But if I keep making these videos, they'll appear sooner or later. You're going to have to go elsewhere for your Tanakh reviews.
Nice information bro 👍👍
I have placed RNJB as my Readers Bible, it is a very good one in that category. Not a study Bible it is, which is sad. Translation reads really well. I think I will buy ESV or Ignatius Study Bible to replace it. The book intros for RNJB comes from CTS I think, not much info. It also calls Jonah and Daniel a fictional story, notes are partially skeptical. But approved by Catholic Church which has the official position that Adam and Eve is also a fictional religious story.
I prefer the regular Nw Catholic Bible. The print size is at least a 10 font and ll notes are at the end of each book.
cont'd ...The CCC para 113, quoting Vatican II, states "Read the Scripture within the Tradition of the whole Church".
Below is a review of this Bible I wrote in 2015:
" I have had the deluxe and travel editions for a number of years. They are both beautifully presented and the liturgical notes and lectionary are an excellent feature. The Catholic Truth Society have produced some wonderful material over the years and so it gives me no pleasure to suggest that the notes in this bible are, in my opinion, a disappointment. In the foreword Henry Wansbrough, who did such a splendid job on the reworked New Jerusalem Bible in 1985 with wonderfully helpful introductions and notes expresses deep gratitude to Bernard Robinson and Ian Boxall who "worked through the Notes". Apart from an over emphasis on sometimes trivial historico-literary critical comment at the expense of spiritual and theological assistance some comments simply annoy by casting doubt or confusion on well-accepted Church usage and understanding for centuries. For example, a note on the Magnificat offers the gratuitous comment that some attribute this to Elizabeth. A note on 1John 5 states "Possibly "came by water" refers to a view that Jesus became Son of God only at baptism .."! Both the Standard editions of the New Jerusalem Bible and the 1966 Jerusalem Bible have sensible, helpful notes on these verses and I can only suppose that Henry Wansborough has not read notes in the CTS edition. With the introductions and notes of the Jerusalem or New Jerusalem Bibles or similar quality I would have given five stars."
Great review📖💒🔥🛐
Thanks, gato_gc!
@@RGrantJones they are not easy to find, Amazon, Ebay or even used like thrift books online store
How many books are in New Catholic Bible Standard Edition and New Catholic Compact edition?
Some of the footnotes are absolute rubbish. Thank you for the review. This is not a Bible I will purchase.
wow very interesting, would love to see your final out come on the best translations thanks
Thanks for viewing and commenting, Gypsy! I intend to keep adding translations to the continuum, so you should expect to continue to see minor changes in the scores. But I don't think more literal necessarily means better, at least the way I define literal. If you took the ASV, removed most of the introductory conjunctions, replaced "answered them, saying" with "replied" wherever it occurred, and replaced "he" with "Jesus" for clarity a few times, you'd end up with a far less literal translation. But I suspect most people would prefer it to the original.
I now use the CTS Bible, although I use the standard size edition. I like the single column format. Prior to getting this Bible I used the RSV - Catholic Edition. This used a 2 column format and smaller print, so I find the CTS Bible easier to read. Also I prefer the footnotes in the CTS, to the endnotes in the RSVCE. The RSVCE has a section of endnotes at the end of the OT and another at the end of the NT. However I'm puzzled as to why the books of the Maccabees are placed between Esther and Job rather than in their more traditional [and historically correct] position at the end of the OT.
The “historically correct” placement is between Esther and Job. Maccabees is one of the books of history, so it is placed at the end of the books of history. That is where it is placed in the Septuagint when the text first appeared. Putting it at the end of the OT was first done by Jerome without any explanation or reason. You may prefer having the books there, but to say that it’s the “historically correct” placement is just not true.
@@louisrharmony It is historically correct at the end of the OT, as the events they recall happened in the 2nd century BC, between the time of Malachi and the NT.
@@michaelhaywood8262 If you prefer Maccabees at the end of the bible that is fine, but understand that you’re reasoning is flawed. The Bible is not organized strictly chronologically. If it were organized chronologically, you would see them ordered (roughly due to debates about chronology): Pentateuch, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, Samuel, Kings, Obadiah, Joel, Jonah, Amos, Hosea, Isaiah, Micah, Nahum, Habakuk, Zephaniah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Haggai, Zechariah, Esther, Ezra, Nehemiah, Malachi, Maccabees.
As I said, Maccabees was always placed at the end of the books of history. Jerome changed that placement and traditional Catholic bibles based on the Vulgate followed suit. Most modern bibles move them back to their original placement in the Septuagint. Even in the Septuagint the books of Maccabees aren’t in chronological order, as 3 Maccabees takes place 40 years prior to 1 Maccabees.
I wonder if your copy of the CTS New Catholic Bible has DANIEL 12 v.1 missing? There are numerous other errors too.
Thanks for the question, Peter. No, Dan 12.1 is present in my copy.
That's strange ; CTS say even later editions carried the same errors and omissions. DAN 12 v.1 is incomplete it omits after the words: "There is going to be a time of great distress" the sentence : "unparalleled since nations first came into existence......... written in the book. Also note Map 3 (Palestine of the New Testament) the spelling GALLILEE (sic). As I said there are quite a few other e&o's too.
@@peter.marshall - Yes, while Dan 12.1 is present, the last half or so of it is missing in my copy. Thanks for bringing those errors to our attention.
A very good, detailed review, though!
Anybody knows where can I buy this version exactly but bigger? I've got this one, but the font is anti-human, really ;) My eyes hurt after longer reading.
Why is it so hard to find this bible in the US.
I need large to giant print!
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Dang I was hoping I could buy this bible. I do want catholic "dynamic equivalent" bible for devotional reading but still faithful and not trying to be super modern and politically correct. I also don't want one with all the historic-critical commentary and footnotes. Nor do I want to give my money to publishers who subscribe to it. I did buy another version of the Jersualem bible, but the printing was atrocious - inconsistent font colours, from so faint and barely readable to super bold you think they were trying to make each verse a title. Not to mention blurry fonts.
Will have to keep searching.
@Dillon Leaf While there are some translation issues with a few verses that make the CTS/Jerusalem bible problematic for catholic theology, as a bible just to read devotionally it's okay. The real problem is the introductory paragraphs to some of the books of the bible that call into question the divine authorship of scripture, like saying Moses didn't write the pentateuch, David didn't write psalms, Matthew didn't write the gospel of Matthew, that st. Paul didn't write the letter to the hebrews, and that St. Peter didn't write 2 Peter.
@Dillon Leaf I don't think NAB-RE is any better from the position of what the introductory notes say.
@@Cyanstone Hey you're still evaluating Study bibles? 🙂
I guess you need to figure out, do you want just a bible, or a study bible that has extensive commentary? Generally if a Catholic has a bible, it should have commentary that explains the scripture in terms of the faith so that we don't get into private interpretation.
CTS/Jerusalem is a nice translation to make scripture easier to read. So if you can keep yourself from listening to the notes its good.
The most traditionally catholic studying bible would be the Douay-Rheims bible with George Haydock commentary, produced before Vatican 2.
The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible is very traditional in its notes, but there is only the New Testament. Which might fit your needs as the Haydock bible is probably the most expensive study bible due to its size and limited run.
The Didache bible is good if you want study notes that connect scripture to the JP2 Catechism.
Hope that helps. R. Grant Jones has done reviews on the Ignatius catholic study bible and the Didache Study Bible. Both use the RSV-CE translation of the bible.
Why don't you prefer? Words of Christ in red?
Thanks for the question. Here are my reasons:
Red letters often cause me eye strain -- actual physical pain. Publishers seem to have difficulty printing them evenly, so you’re more likely to find faded sections of red text. Black text is often printed on the opposite side of the page, causing show-through/ghosting, and I find red characters on a cluttered background harder to read than black characters on the same background.
I made a video on this topic, which can be viewed here: ua-cam.com/video/Bzz2Bu9IjrA/v-deo.html .
Thanks for your explanation, I had that in mind somewhat. I enjoy your videos. Can you review the new “The Defined King James Bible?” Also I am a fan of the red text in the cambridge cameo reference in Blue Goatskin ( I own this one.)
@@Mirror245 - thanks for the recommendation. It appears that Bible is out of print. Perhaps when it's back in print.
I have read some Apocrypha books, like Judith and Tobit. I think Protestants and Jews were correct to take Apocypha writings out of their Bibles. I really like Psalm 151, attributed to David, however it was composed much later than King David's time period, it is not his writing probably. Deuterocanonical books are strange to include in any Bible (Jerome agrees). Also, when it comes to choosing the canon, a smaller and conservative canon makes sense, the longer ones can contain more and more errors, and 'human' additions.
As a TradCat, I basically ignore anything from Vatican 2 though I follow Pope Benedict and Cardinal Sarah. I have a WW 2 Confraternity Bible with footnotes that reflect the teachings of the Church Fathers. I wish they would bring that edition back in print and you can get used copies on Amazon.
I recently read _Infiltration_ by Taylor Marshall and _Christus Vincit_ by Bishop Schneider. Very interesting perspective -- and one I've only recently been exposed to. That Confraternity Bible sounds worthwhile. Is it known by a special name, or should I simply search for 'Confraternity Bible' and check for notes from the Fathers?
@@RGrantJones Look for Confraternity Bible or Confraternity-Douay version. You may also find some on E-bay. I was lucky, I found one at Half Price Books for $5.00 and one on a dollar cart at my friend's parish. The one with the traditional notes is from 1942, while the other is from 1956 and that is when the modernist changes started creeping into the footnotes, ie DANIEL, etc. I was hoping that I could send one copy (published by Bennzinger Brother (always a good sign) to a publisher that reprints old Catholic books. If you cannot find a copy, I will gladly send you one of mine. This was the modern translation (New Testament only) which was popular from the 1930s thru the 1960s until the other translations started coming out. Like you I have read INFILTRATION and I find it also interesting that Hillary Clinton and the Podesta brothers visited Pope Benedict two months before he resigned. I think that they presented him with transcripts of all corruption going on in the Vatican and Vatican bank with money laundering and the sexual deviancy and I think Benedict either resigned out of a feeling of overwhelming helplessness or was threatened in some way. But it seems to fulfill the prophecy of St. Malachi that Benedict would be the last valid Pope until the last one during the reign of the Antichrist, the Elijah and/or Enoch. I will order the Didache version and have 6 versions now:KJV, Jerusalem, RSV, Confraternity, Orthodox Study Bible, and NKJV.
@@carltonpoindexter2034 - thanks for that useful information.
@@RGrantJones you can get a confraternity new testament pocket bible as a reprint from scepter publishers for around 11 dollars. The quality isnt great a couple of pages weren't cut properly. Its a good translation and is a updated version of the douay rheims. It would be interesting to see a comparison between the douay and the confraternity I hope that helps. The version i have doesnt have any notes of the church fathers though.
Can somebody tell me what the official Roman Catholic church Bible is? Is it in Latin?
The current official bible of the Vatican is the New Vulgate, inaugurated during the early years of JP2's time as Pope
Various local translations are subject to the regional body of bishops deciding on what is what, so NAB/RE is the official English one for those under the US Catholic Council of Bishops, but the British Catholic Bishops can decide their own translations etc...
@@Legiondude Ireland and the UK use the Jerusalem Bible.
The Catholic Church of the United Kingdom is planning to adopt the ESV-CE for the liturgy.
I have that sense of scorn rising within me again. If they don't believe the bible is more than a collection of fairy tales, including much that is written of the first century Church why do they even bother? If I was just someone curious about Christianity and Christ and stumbled on this bible I would probably discard everything, including my seeking. They don't seem to believe they will have to answer for what they have produced on the day of judgment. There are a couple of other Latin Bibles I would have no qualms about using, though I'm not Roman Catholic. Douay-Reims is ok and the other day I downloaded the Didache Bible and the NRSVCE, though I'm not all that keen on the NRSV. My eyes are also getting old which is one small reason I like digital copies.
I want this bible beacause i am a Seventh Day Adventist.I like this bible because i dream to had this bible
Why does one buy a catholic Bible?
A few reasons off the top of my head: To read and evaluate the translation. To have access to the Deuterocanonical books in that translation. To examine the notes to learn what Catholics are being taught.
R. Grant Jones good thought
Mas Gonderawi if you knew anything about the canonization of the scriptures you’d know thats a false statement.
Mas Gonderawi I’m not Protestant though. The Baptist’s were around before the reform of Martin. Although the silent years are not scripture or the Words of God they are historical books my friend. So your ignorant because of what your church tells you rather than studying the scriptures yourself. I was “Catholic” for 18 years. Do you know Catholics believe Peter was the first Pope. Peter was married so how would that work. Do you know Catholics pray to a dead woman named marry in hope that she will intercede for them. Not knowing that Christ is our one and only advocate with the Father. Did you know Catholics believe The Pope will take the place of Christ and set up to rule and reign in His stead. Did you know the Catholic Church thinks what they say supersedes scripture. Did you know the Catholic Church already changed theyre stance on purgatory? Nope. I hope you come to the saving knowledge of the truth. Its Faith my Grace. In Christ alone. There is no Jacobs ladder.
@@thefullnessoftruthapostola8328 The Puritans used the Genever Bible. The AV was done partly to knock Puritans back.
"Happily, the words of Christ are in black". No -- UNhappily, they are not in red.
We can't all agree on everything. Wouldn't it be nice if publishers made both styles available?
Want a real Catholic Bible? Get a Douay Rheims.
You give, like, 2 *seconds* to view the information at the beginning. Thanks -- not.
Hmm, maybe pause the video and thank Richard for the time and effort he gives into making these videos.
The Truth Bible is the Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV). end off. Why New Catholic Bible Or NKJB did God speak to Pope or whoever wrote NKJB? The last person God spoke was Our Apostle Paul. End Off. Please stop deceiving people and just all-out making money from innocence people. The Best Bible which is the word of God is Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV).
Philippians 1:6 AKJV being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
God is coming back for the Church soon... Get Saved today- The Gospel is 1 Corinthian 15:1-4
Jimmy J - I don't make any money from these videos, and the Bibles I review are either purchased with my own money or are presents from close relatives. Thanks for commenting!
Jimmy J - I don't make any money from these videos, and the Bibles I review are either purchased with my own money or are presents from close relatives. Thanks for commenting!
The true Bible is the Greek text of the Septuagint (closer to the original Hebrew than the current Hebrew, which is a 9th century Jewish edit) and the Greek of the New Testament.
END OF.
(Also it's either AV or KJV, there is no "AKJV". You are making yourself look profoundly stupid.)
That is a Protestant Bible that came out after the Douay-Rheims and used it as inspiration. As to being "authorised" it was commissioned by a 17th century Protestant King who doesn't hold any authority over Catholics or anyone else these days.
What absolute "holier-than-thou blather" from a Protestant Fundamentalist. When was "the last time" YOU and others of "your ilk" literally gave up "everything" to follow "in the footsteps" of Our Lord..."thou hypocrite"...LOL 😅. End off...kahpeesh...? 😇.
Isn’t CTS an oxymoron???