Man, the best thing I can say about this video is THANK YOU!!!! I have a 570 and thanks to you I'm fixin' to do a low range and a high range reduction. Time to make a mountain goat!
Haven't posted a video of the finished set up but it all worked out great. I'm running 30s and the best way to explain how good the torque is now it's like running 22" tires in low and having 26" tires in high. So far I don't feel like i need a clutch kit installed because it now engages smoother than before. I feel this was better money spent than a clutch kit ever would have.
Roger Davis, thanks for all the work you did here. I am a little confused as to which gears I need to buy. I have an ‘18 xp 4 1000 and want a 25% reduction. Which part numbers to I get
This was a nice find, thanks for the info. I've also got a '18 XP4T and would like that same setup you're running here. Would love to see a vid on trans removal...
Hi Roger, fantastic video! Thank you so. I would like to do a 12% reduction for high range in my 2018 Ranger xp 1000. Transmission #1334019 Any idea what 2 gears I would need? I believe what is stock for mine inout shaft #3236131 42 tooth And the other gear is #3235450 48T ( they also offer a gear 49T Not sure how that works?) Any idea as to what gears would give my a 12% reduction and if it could be done? Thank you for time. Paul
Since I plan on doing the gear reduction I figured might as well change out the bearings as some have mentioned, but having a hard time finding the cross-overs for the transmission bearings from the polaris part #'s to SKF part numbers. All I can find so far is the 3233020 to 6305 SKF. Anyone have a crossover list? I know there are plenty of places that will sell me the complete kit, but they also charge a lot of $$$.
Great Video. I also have a 18' XPT4 and I am getting ready to purchase the gears for the 26% low and 12.9% high/reverse reduction. Looks like the parts numbers needed are 3235450, 3235451, 3235774 and 3235989. Are there any other parts or specialty tools needed to complete this job?
The best thing is to have a good press and a good gear puller. Don't use silicon to put the case back together order some YAMABOND it's a factory and will not leak and is easy to clean off. It's not too hard just take your time.
Just finished up and everything went great. It was pretty easy, just take your time and take pictures along the way. I didn’t have a press but I just put the shafts in the freezer and the bearings in the oven for a few minutes and they slide right on like butter. I love the 26/12/12 reduction. Happy camper now that I have a Low gear again and with 32” tires the 12% lower high gear is perfect.
That's great!!! And I agree that this is a great set up on the XPT4 sure wished Polaris had used these gears. The heating and cooling was a great idea to get around the no press. I do like that Polaris changed the way the motor and transmission mount up sure makes it easier to align everything back up. I didn't take photos as I went I just got started and didn't think about doing it until I was finished.
You not changing any of the differential gearing so the rear still match the front. You are changing gears before the transfer gears to the differentials. Hope that helps.
Do you have the part numbers for all the gears you had to buy and what not?I have the same model and year polaris as you. Thanks a lot for posting this video and information
In the video I show the order sheet with the part numbers I used but here is a parts list for what I done. 26.6% low 12.6% high 12.6% reverse 3235450 3235451 3235774 3235989 Hope this helps. I found a cheaper site than Ronnie's microfish that I ordered my second set from I have it listed in my second video I made. You can just Google the part numbers and find different sites that sells these gears. Be sure to get a small tube of yamabond to use when you put your transmission half's back together, don't use silicone or blue gasket maker.
Awesome video man, great job on the research! Have you gotten it back together and run it yet? Any videos in action? Any issues? I have a 2017 XPT4, any difference?
Thanks, yes have run it some and all I can say is I love it! I've upgraded from a 800s to this unit but was very disappointed with the LOW gear being high so now it feels like my old 800s in LOW. Now about 25 mph in low is maxed out, best way to explain it is like having 22" tires on it in LOW and 26" tires on it in HIGH. The belt engagement is very smooth and super fast so I'm thinking no clutch is going to be needed at all. What I see on your 2017 XPT4 Ronnies Microfiche you have the same (570 gears) that mine had but your input shaft (3235846) has all three gears made on the shaft ( like my reverse and high gear are from my video). So I don't see a way for you to change the LOW gear set as I did you can only change to the (325 gear reduction) that will just give you the 12.9% reduction across everything. Just my 2 cents hope this helps.
@@rogerdavis6168 10-4. I appreciate the help. I think the the 51% might be too low for me so I might have to go with the 27%. Iv'e had 32's on it for a while stock but might go 35's soon. The bigger tires work great up around Royal blue and Tackett Creek.
Hi, I used Ronnies micrfiche.com to look up all my parts. I think that on a standard 1000 transmission the input gear has all three ( high,low and the reverse chain sprocket) is made on to the shaft unlike the turbo transmission. To my knowledge all you can do is the 325,570,900 gear sets that put the reduction across all ( high, low,rev). You need to look up what gear set is in yours to see how to get 12%. Mine had the 570 gear set so I could only get 12% lower by putting in the 325 gears but all turbo the low only is removable so that’s how I got 12% more in low only. Hope this helps.
I don't think you lose any mph personally or I didn't and I went the full 29% and are running 30" tires. Tod over at hunterworks.com has a great video talking about gear reductions. Basically he said the same thing I did in this video and why doing the transmission gears are a must. But to answer your question I have had mine up to 75 and didn't hit the Rev limit and there was still more I'm just not one for speed. ua-cam.com/video/0yUrD4oCbdo/v-deo.html
What is your max speed in high? I’m trading up to a 18 xpt4 from a 16 xp1k which I’ve had a ton of belt issues. And u say u can only go 25 in low max out, does that mean at 25 mph your redlined in low. Btw great video! Thanks
Thanks Christopher, I'm saying 25 but sure I could push a little more out of LOW gear but she's wound up pretty tight so I just say 25 as a good reference point. Now in HIGH gear with my 30" Journey Crawlers I still can move on down the highway but don't know the top speed but never knew it before the gear set was installed. I just know now with the 12.9% in HIGH i get up to speed a WHOLE lot faster.
Haven't had any problems but belts with mine so far, and no noise from the front end. Sure hope this gear reduction take care of that and so far I'm loving it! I might be the best in comparison on this because I upgraded from a 800s to this XPT4 so there's no comparison between the two it like night and day.
Hi help me here to get about the same idea you have I have a 2015 xp 1000 2 seater. I want to run 32 or 30 an keep speed but I want a lower low for rocks...thank you.
Unfortunately in your 2015 XP according to Ronnie's microfiche your transmission has all the gears made on to the input shaft unlike mine that the low gears was removable. I think most of the transmissions that have the reverse chain in them have the same type of input shaft where all the gears are made all in one. Look at a kit for a double reverse chain and you'll see what I'm talking about. Your has the 27/46 ( the 570) transfer gears in it so all you could do is the 25/48 ( the 325 or the 12.9%) gears and it would be the 12.9% across all low,high,and reverse. That's from looking at the microfiche not from personal experience. Hope this helps.
@@rogerdavis6168 yes that helps alot thank you for your help an time!!! You know I would give up 12%on high an love the 12% on low I think that would be perfect an run 30s instead 32s.... that would be one torque ride!! Just not sure if I wanted to tackle the change lol
I can hit 30 and the rev limiter comes in in low but I'm running 30" tires. With the 32" tires yours would do a little more .You need to look up your transmission at Ronnie's web site to see if the gears are still the same as what's in mine. I don't know if the changed anything in 19.
The two seaters have different gears in the than my XPT4. Mine has the 570 gear set and I changed them to the 325 and put the low gears out of a XPT2 in mine to get these ratio. I think your has the 900 main gear set so to get 12% across all gears you would put in the 570 if you wanted the 29% you would put in the 325 set. If I'm not mistaking the low I put in is what yours already has in it.
Hey could you give me the part numbers for gear reduction for a xp 1000 4 seater 2017.5 model. I would like the the ranger gear in low with a small reduction in high and reverse if this is possible. Z17VFE99AM is the model number. Thanks in Advance
Hey Barry have some good and bad news for you. First the good you have the same transfer shaft gears as mine 27T/46T that's the set they call the 570 gear set. So all you can change to the 325 gear set like I did that will give you 12.9% across all gears low,high,and low. Now the bad yours has all the gears made on the input shaft so you can not change the low gear set like I did. Polaris made the turbo transmission different than the 1000. I think it's due to the 1000s have a chain for reverse and the turbo are gear driven.
Trey I don't know, my suggestion would to go to Ronnie's microfish website and look up your 2017 xp4 and see what gears are in yours.you got to know what's in it first before you change out gears. Just to give you an example my XPT4 had the 570 transfer gears and the xpt2 has the 900 transfer gears. So the lowest you can go is to the 325 transfer set so mine would only go 12.9% lower but the xpt2 would go 29%. Polaris put different gears in different years so look up yours first.
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Man, the best thing I can say about this video is THANK YOU!!!! I have a 570 and thanks to you I'm fixin' to do a low range and a high range reduction. Time to make a mountain goat!
Haven't posted a video of the finished set up but it all worked out great. I'm running 30s and the best way to explain how good the torque is now it's like running 22" tires in low and having 26" tires in high. So far I don't feel like i need a clutch kit installed because it now engages smoother than before. I feel this was better money spent than a clutch kit ever would have.
Roger Davis, thanks for all the work you did here. I am a little confused as to which gears I need to buy. I have an ‘18 xp 4 1000 and want a 25% reduction. Which part numbers to I get
He can change shaft to a general shft go to specialized atv
fantastic video Roger... great stuff. Thank You
Dude that’s awesome!! Thanks for the due diligence!!
Here is a little breakdown of the parts numbers:
12.9% Low, 12.9% High, 12.9% Reverse
3235450
3235451
26.6% Low, 12.9% High, 12.9% Reverse
3235450
3235451
3235774
3235989
36.2% Low
3235232
3236132
53% Low, 12.9% High, 12.9% Low
3235232
3235450
3235451
3236132
Will this work on a 2020 Turbo S 4 seater?
This was a nice find, thanks for the info. I've also got a '18 XP4T and would like that same setup you're running here. Would love to see a vid on trans removal...
Great explaination 👍👍 thanks for doing this video
Hi Roger, fantastic video! Thank you so. I would like to do a 12% reduction for high range in my 2018 Ranger xp 1000. Transmission #1334019
Any idea what 2 gears I would need? I believe what is stock for mine inout shaft #3236131 42 tooth
And the other gear is #3235450 48T ( they also offer a gear 49T Not sure how that works?) Any idea as to what gears would give my a 12% reduction and if it could be done? Thank you for time.
Paul
Since I plan on doing the gear reduction I figured might as well change out the bearings as some have mentioned, but having a hard time finding the cross-overs for the transmission bearings from the polaris part #'s to SKF part numbers. All I can find so far is the 3233020 to 6305 SKF. Anyone have a crossover list? I know there are plenty of places that will sell me the complete kit, but they also charge a lot of $$$.
Man that's awesome! Thanks
Great Video. I also have a 18' XPT4 and I am getting ready to purchase the gears for the 26% low and 12.9% high/reverse reduction. Looks like the parts numbers needed are 3235450, 3235451, 3235774 and 3235989. Are there any other parts or specialty tools needed to complete this job?
The best thing is to have a good press and a good gear puller. Don't use silicon to put the case back together order some YAMABOND it's a factory and will not leak and is easy to clean off. It's not too hard just take your time.
Just finished up and everything went great. It was pretty easy, just take your time and take pictures along the way. I didn’t have a press but I just put the shafts in the freezer and the bearings in the oven for a few minutes and they slide right on like butter. I love the 26/12/12 reduction. Happy camper now that I have a Low gear again and with 32” tires the 12% lower high gear is perfect.
That's great!!! And I agree that this is a great set up on the XPT4 sure wished Polaris had used these gears. The heating and cooling was a great idea to get around the no press. I do like that Polaris changed the way the motor and transmission mount up sure makes it easier to align everything back up. I didn't take photos as I went I just got started and didn't think about doing it until I was finished.
Will these part numbers work on a 2020 turbo s velocity?
Can you run just the ranger gears in a xp4 1000 and have just the low range reduction and leave high and reverse as is?
I think you can change the input shaft on a 1000 all the gears are made on to it as one.
Thank you for info! This is a great idea and should have to worry about front end because it’s reduced at the main shaft correct?
You not changing any of the differential gearing so the rear still match the front. You are changing gears before the transfer gears to the differentials. Hope that helps.
Roger Davis thanks ya just wanted to double check
Do you have the part numbers for all the gears you had to buy and what not?I have the same model and year polaris as you. Thanks a lot for posting this video and information
In the video I show the order sheet with the part numbers I used but here is a parts list for what I done.
26.6% low 12.6% high 12.6% reverse
3235450
3235451
3235774
3235989
Hope this helps. I found a cheaper site than Ronnie's microfish that I ordered my second set from I have it listed in my second video I made. You can just Google the part numbers and find different sites that sells these gears. Be sure to get a small tube of yamabond to use when you put your transmission half's back together, don't use silicone or blue gasket maker.
@@rogerdavis6168 Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain all that and giving me the part numbers. You are a good guy. Thanks again
Awesome video man, great job on the research! Have you gotten it back together and run it yet? Any videos in action? Any issues? I have a 2017 XPT4, any difference?
Thanks, yes have run it some and all I can say is I love it! I've upgraded from a 800s to this unit but was very disappointed with the LOW gear being high so now it feels like my old 800s in LOW. Now about 25 mph in low is maxed out, best way to explain it is like having 22" tires on it in LOW and 26" tires on it in HIGH. The belt engagement is very smooth and super fast so I'm thinking no clutch is going to be needed at all.
What I see on your 2017 XPT4 Ronnies Microfiche you have the same (570 gears) that mine had but your input shaft (3235846) has all three gears made on the shaft ( like my reverse and high gear are from my video). So I don't see a way for you to change the LOW gear set as I did you can only change to the (325 gear reduction) that will just give you the 12.9% reduction across everything. Just my 2 cents hope this helps.
Hey Roger, is there a way to get 36% in low and 12 in high and reverse?
Not to my knowledge. You can do what I did but 26% is as low as possible with my setup. You can 36% but have to keep rev & high stock.
@@rogerdavis6168 10-4. I appreciate the help. I think the the 51% might be too low for me so I might have to go with the 27%. Iv'e had 32's on it for a while stock but might go 35's soon. The bigger tires work great up around Royal blue and Tackett Creek.
Yes this setup works great. I think Polaris should have put this gear set in the RZR.
I need part #'s for a 2016 RZR XP 1000 std. I want the 25% reduction in low only. Can you help? Or tell me where to go to get the data.
Hi, I used Ronnies micrfiche.com to look up all my parts. I think that on a standard 1000 transmission the input gear has all three ( high,low and the reverse chain sprocket) is made on to the shaft unlike the turbo transmission. To my knowledge all you can do is the 325,570,900 gear sets that put the reduction across all ( high, low,rev). You need to look up what gear set is in yours to see how to get 12%. Mine had the 570 gear set so I could only get 12% lower by putting in the 325 gears but all turbo the low only is removable so that’s how I got 12% more in low only. Hope this helps.
Go to google and lookup “RZR 1000input shaft” image and you will see what I’m talking about the all three gears are made into the shaft.
any idea how much mph you loose with a 12.9 gear reduction? is it like 12.9% mph loss or is there another formula to figure out what mph you loose
I don't think you lose any mph personally or I didn't and I went the full 29% and are running 30" tires. Tod over at hunterworks.com has a great video talking about gear reductions. Basically he said the same thing I did in this video and why doing the transmission gears are a must. But to answer your question I have had mine up to 75 and didn't hit the Rev limit and there was still more I'm just not one for speed.
ua-cam.com/video/0yUrD4oCbdo/v-deo.html
What is your max speed in high? I’m trading up to a 18 xpt4 from a 16 xp1k which I’ve had a ton of belt issues. And u say u can only go 25 in low max out, does that mean at 25 mph your redlined in low. Btw great video! Thanks
Thanks Christopher, I'm saying 25 but sure I could push a little more out of LOW gear but she's wound up pretty tight so I just say 25 as a good reference point. Now in HIGH gear with my 30" Journey Crawlers I still can move on down the highway but don't know the top speed but never knew it before the gear set was installed. I just know now with the 12.9% in HIGH i get up to speed a WHOLE lot faster.
Haven't had any problems but belts with mine so far, and no noise from the front end. Sure hope this gear reduction take care of that and so far I'm loving it! I might be the best in comparison on this because I upgraded from a 800s to this XPT4 so there's no comparison between the two it like night and day.
Hi help me here to get about the same idea you have I have a 2015 xp 1000 2 seater. I want to run 32 or 30 an keep speed but I want a lower low for rocks...thank you.
Unfortunately in your 2015 XP according to Ronnie's microfiche your transmission has all the gears made on to the input shaft unlike mine that the low gears was removable. I think most of the transmissions that have the reverse chain in them have the same type of input shaft where all the gears are made all in one. Look at a kit for a double reverse chain and you'll see what I'm talking about. Your has the 27/46 ( the 570) transfer gears in it so all you could do is the 25/48 ( the 325 or the 12.9%) gears and it would be the 12.9% across all low,high,and reverse. That's from looking at the microfiche not from personal experience. Hope this helps.
@@rogerdavis6168 yes that helps alot thank you for your help an time!!! You know I would give up 12%on high an love the 12% on low I think that would be perfect an run 30s instead 32s.... that would be one torque ride!! Just not sure if I wanted to tackle the change lol
Roger, thanks for the video!
My question is, I’m running 32” crawlers, would I do okay with the 12.9% only?
I don’t like to idea of 25 max in low.
I can hit 30 and the rev limiter comes in in low but I'm running 30" tires. With the 32" tires yours would do a little more .You need to look up your transmission at Ronnie's web site to see if the gears are still the same as what's in mine. I don't know if the changed anything in 19.
Got a ‘19 Rzr XP Turbo S 2 seater. Which Polaris part numbers do I need for a 25% Low, 12% high and 12% reverse Thank you!
26.6% Low, 12.9% High, 12.9% Reverse
3235450
3235451
3235774
3235989
The two seaters have different gears in the than my XPT4. Mine has the 570 gear set and I changed them to the 325 and put the low gears out of a XPT2 in mine to get these ratio. I think your has the 900 main gear set so to get 12% across all gears you would put in the 570 if you wanted the 29% you would put in the 325 set. If I'm not mistaking the low I put in is what yours already has in it.
@@rogerdavis6168 so if I purchased the 325set I would have 29% low, 12% high, and 12% reverse?
Are you saying I need the 3235450 & 3235451 set of gears?
@@bknox88 that would give you 29% across high,low,and reverse
Hey could you give me the part numbers for gear reduction for a xp 1000 4 seater 2017.5 model. I would like the the ranger gear in low with a small reduction in high and reverse if this is possible. Z17VFE99AM is the model number.
Thanks in Advance
Hey Barry have some good and bad news for you. First the good you have the same transfer shaft gears as mine 27T/46T that's the set they call the 570 gear set. So all you can change to the 325 gear set like I did that will give you 12.9% across all gears low,high,and low. Now the bad yours has all the gears made on the input shaft so you can not change the low gear set like I did. Polaris made the turbo transmission different than the 1000. I think it's due to the 1000s have a chain for reverse and the turbo are gear driven.
Will this work on 2017 xp4 1000 non turbo?
Trey I don't know, my suggestion would to go to Ronnie's microfish website and look up your 2017 xp4 and see what gears are in yours.you got to know what's in it first before you change out gears. Just to give you an example my XPT4 had the 570 transfer gears and the xpt2 has the 900 transfer gears. So the lowest you can go is to the 325 transfer set so mine would only go 12.9% lower but the xpt2 would go 29%. Polaris put different gears in different years so look up yours first.