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Even with vox alastor was calm and collected where he got the upper hand pretty quickly and that finding his rivalry pretty entertaining but with Lucifer ooo he founds his match with the attitude hand in hand with power that he got ALASTOR IN THE LOOP and annoyance you can tell he get into alastor skin just by seeing he’s coming to the hotel
I was honestly a bit worried that Alastor swearing would feel weird or out-of-character in some way, since I feel like it would be too easy to mess it up, but I'm glad it didn't feel weird in the slightest. They chose a good swear word and put it in a good moment.
The fact that he's not some cold, distant, egomaniacal and powermongering tyrant and he's just a short guy desperate for his daughter's love and apparently battling depression(the Sin of Pride battling depression? That feels.... not good, from a Ruler-of-Hell standpoint)is super endearing.
Tbh, as a fan of the show. Some episodes lately are hit and miss... Like the writing can be.. eh.. most of the songs are good though! For my opinion. But seeing Lucifer for the first time is.. weird.. like there has been multiple versions of Lucifer in Media that depicts him the same or differently. Ofcourse i was gonna let Vivzie's version slide but.. yeah.. this dude is supposed to be the Ruler of the pride ring. He's suppised to be pridful yet, he feels so off as Lucifer..
@@jackhall4767but he DOES show he’s prideful, in not admitting that he’s not okay and sheltering himself from others in order to avoid facing his problems. Also keep in mind Lucifer’s only sin was being too arrogant.
@@jackhall4767 Just because they’re representatives of these sins doesn’t mean they can’t deviate from embodying them. Look at Asmodeus for example in helluva boss. Guy is literally in a loving monogamous relationship.
I'm thinking Lilith who we know loved and thrived in hell began to see Lucifer in negative light or as weak because he struggles to respect hell. We know in the first episode Charlie said she "adapted or loved hell" while Lucifer "could only see the negative side of hell and became sad". Due to those differences I wonder if she began to isolate Charlie from him more and more because she knew how alike Lucifer and Charlie are.
most people seem to miss that Charlie says "since thei split" so probably she glew up with her mother mostly, and the photos on lucifer workshop corroborate with that (in all but one of then wee see charlie as a litle kid, so that was wen he still had contact with her)
good point! He obviously longed to be connected with her and he's obviously someone who is insecured and depressed. I bet as Lilith grew in power he began to shrink himself down and made himself feel small.@@butecodesentina1766
I'm just so delighted to see how much Lucifer actually cares about Charlie. Like, we assumed from the pilot that he was a neglectful parent figure - and how Charlie mostly leans towards Lilith. So I love how they showed the reconciliation between her and her father instead. It hits harder. Plus, it's Jeremy Jordan bro.
I don't even see any incongruencies from the pilot to now. For example, assuming Luci was neglectful was just that. An assumption (that I didn't have). There wasn't enough information in the pilot to draw conclusions on what Charlie's mom and dad were like, or to really fully know how their relationship with eachother was like. What we got from the pilot is that Charlie called her mom, so she feels/hopes she can talk to her. And that her dad said something, but we don't know what or why. Like, he could have said something Charlie interpreted one way and he meant another. 🤷♀
@@chere100 "I think dad was right about me" Plus the ominous shadow figure behind Charlie in the opening song strongly suggest he was originally meant to be a dlckhead. Idk how she could interpret him just being a recluse to be this antagonistic towards her otherwise. From the opening sequence of episode 1 we get a completely different story with Charlie having a completely positive outlook towards her dad. I think it's clear this was simply changed in the many years it took for this show to come out which is fine but also confusing with the pilot being mostly canon.
@@anitaremenarova6662 All the figures in the opening song were shadowy. Including herself. It's probably the part with her singing about being a failure with her dad behind her that gave the negative impression, but that can mean it's her own internalized problem (like wanting to impress him, looking up to him but not thinking herself good enough, etc), not that her dad is somehow bad. And yeah, she said "I think dad was right about me", but as I said, we have no idea what that means or what was said. It seems from the way she said it that it's something she interrupted negatively, but since we didn't get any more info at that time, we can't actually figure out what that ultimately means (then). But if you put in the context of the information we now have, we know that her dad is socially awkward (with his daughter), he's depressed, and he feels hopeless. He is for some reason separated from his wife, and pictures imply he might not have been closely involved the entire time when Charlie was growing up (possibly because Lilith took her away). He's kind of given up, and he's in some way prideful (Sin of Pride). I think he probably said something that hurt Charlie, but he probably didn't mean to hurt her. You know, like when he was kind of doing the I told you so brag when Alastor was attacking those guys after Mimzy. And Charlie got upset, "why can he believe in me but my own dad can't?" And you can see Luci's face fall. He doesn't want to be bad or seen in a bad light by his daughter, he's just kind of... bad at daddying.
It's not just that Alastor got so mad he swore, but how much vemon he put into it, that makes it so hilarious. Also, Given how many A-hole dads Vivienne has made, I was really expecting Lucifer to be another example. But no, he's super lovable. You can tell he cares about Charlie and he's really trying to connect with her. I never thought I'd love the Lucifer this much, but here we are.
I really like how they didn't portray Lucifer as like the typical top dog, he just seems like a guy who happens to be in power, it's kinda like Tom Ellis' Lucifer, seems like an ordinary nonchalant guy with glimpses of his true power showing.
To me it makes sense why Charlie despite possibly being one of the most powerful beings in he'll, never shows her power and isn't an overlord or something. Because Lucifer is the same way, passive but not weak. Cause despite all the Overloeds wreaking havoc, Alastor taking people out one by one, not ONE of them have ever tried to kill Lucifer or Charlie. Because 1. They don't make ripples 2. They don't WANT them to make ripples, a seraphim wielding fallen angel magic against the demons? Their worst nightmare, better to leave the Duck in his pond than piss them off and get a goose.
@@Ashbrash1998also because in this canon Lucifer and by extension Charlie are literally just good intentioned Angels who never even had any malice to begin with They're like this because they're just straight up good people and Charlie was raised to be a good person 😭
This is what a guy who gained power accidently looks like, my theory is that because in hell "might makes right" he and lilith came down and the other sins attack them but got their ass handed to them and declared them king and queen and they just said "hu...sure"
I think satans gonna be the version most ppl would expect lucifer to be. I like the separation of the overlord of wrath and the angel that was cast out, it’s an interesting way to include both versions of the devil.
It’s always unique to see Alastor express different emotions, because even though he always has that smile on his face, he isn’t always happy and it’s very interesting to see how he expresses those other emotions with that smile on his face
because Luci's respect means something and matters to him. RD has only been in hell for a little under a hundred years, this is the literal devil. been there for thousands.
Well, it seems like Alastor hates having anyone more powerful than him in the room. Lucifer could crush him in a fight so he goes for mental warfare instead.
@@MewDenise That's exactly what it is. The moment that Lucifer walked into the room, it was clear that Alastor could no longer take center stage. When the king is in the room, Alastor just becomes another demon.
I fully expected Lucifer to be your typical non supportive dad who's super emotionally distant from their kid and turns out to be a major obstacle. And yesh, he tries to dissuade Charlie at first, but it's ti protect her. the Devil is actually not that bad. You can tell he's really trying to have a connection with Charlie and genuinely cares about her. He's honestly kind of adorable. I love how often Vivienne subverts our expectations with this show.
I guess he wished for Charlie to have a better and kinder environment than be stuck around all those sinners. She is like that rainbow and ponies girl and not blood and masacre so he is depressed that becouse of his actions his dauther is forced to live here. I guess when Charlie would be in danger Lucifer would enter daddy mode and blow up showing full power.
It's also important to keep in mind that there's just so much of an experienced difference between him and his daughter. Lucifer literally predates humanity itself, and the fact that humans keep going to Heaven is undeniable proof that they are _capable of doing right,_ but choose to do wrong, and seemingly never learn from their mistakes. And then when they go to hell, they become even worse. So from Lucifer's POV, they probably just seem like a lost cause his daughter shouldn't give her time, or compassion to.
I dont get this argument people use "make it clear they are dating" or "make it clear they are gay" Why? Why does the show need to do that? Are people not inteligent enough to see?
Don’t make Lucifer’s appearance and behavior fool you remember that he is still the strongest demon and the ruler of the Hell so just because Alastor is pulling his card doesn’t mean he’s any pushover
Exactly!!! In this show first or even second appearences cannot be trusted. Like Alastor; everything he does has a selfish purpose. He doesn't care for anyone but himself.
Exacto!! Literalmente que lo veamos actuando si de buena gente es porque se está dirigiendo a su hija, pero no sabemos cómo trata con los demás un gran ejemplo es la imponente que es para alator que incluso lo hizo decir groserías jajaj
Notice that Alastor never tried to compare his power to Lucifer's like he would with any of his other rivals. He knows he's outmatched in that department so he uses being closer to Charlie than Lucifer is to get under his skin instead
@@TravisTheRed That's the problem...if Al makes even the smallest wrong move against Charlie, HE might end up becoming one of the newest anguished voices in his radio soundtrack
I went "OHHH!!!! OWWW!!!" because I jumped out of my chair while shouting OH when that line was dropped and hit my knee on the table which result in an OW
The fact that one of the ONLY times Alastor swears it right to the King of Hell himself.... that's big. Can anyone else recall Alastor swearing, especially dropping the F bomb before this moment?
"But you haven't been fighting for her..." He personally got her off Heaven's Exorcist kill list"; he HAS been fighting for her for a long time, despite everything else he was struggling with and even if not in the best way.
In episode one we do know that Lucifer has "fought for hell" before. He is the one that struck the deal that ensured only the Sinners get executed with Lute the female angel kinda mockingly told Charlie. "How does it feel knowing your Dad is the reason that is keeping an Exorcist blade from you and your hellborn kind." Lucifer doesn't really have a connection to the sinners at all, gotta remember they are technically all the children of Adam and Eve. Lilith and Charlie are not related to anyone else, but they are the rulers of Hell and Sinners are just "crappy people from earth" that just get stuck in hell as punishment so he probably only vaguely cares about the actual hellborn demons like the ones in Helluva Boss.
@em5522 My assumption is they aren't Hellborn but were her daughters as a human who reunited with her in Hell. Because Vivziepop has stated that sinners are incapable of having children after they go to Hell.
The ducks are symbolism for Lucifer. If you noticed the golden duck in the last song had the same wings as him. He is the "Ugly duckling" of heaven. He had different dream, different goals, etc, ultimately cast out.
There's a theory going around that Lilith made a deal with Alastor for him to watch over Charlie and make sure she doesn't succeed with rehabilitating sinners so she can unlock her true demonic power and protect them from the extermination
I didn't think it was possible, but I actually think this episode topped the last one! Jeremy Jordan is fucking incredible, plus Sarah Stiles? Spinel? Holy shit, this show is quickly becoming one of my all-time favorites.
I have a weird theory that Alastor owes his existence to Lilith (who's music had changed hell, and he's the Radio demon- someone who could broadcast her?). As a result he's basically owing Charlie an insane amount without telling her, so he's working it off and won't be taken advantage of
What im excited about is Lilith, she seems to be the dominant figure in Hell apart from being a celebrity. I mean she’s technically the first human ‘born to be sinner’ and mother of hellspawns.
Lucifer’s depression is scary relatable. He wants to be part of his daughter’s life but fears she doesn’t want him to and won’t make the first move because of that.
I like that Lucifer hates being the ruler of hell he seems to despise it. He probably is holding onto that vision of being an angel and misses heaven. He doesn’t like demons and doesn’t like being around them.
I've been thinking the same thing and have been wondering if anyone else had the same opinion. In a way, Lucifer very much still thinks like an angel, but at the same time, his values don't align with the status quo in heaven.
Well dang not a beat missed in playing the new one. Good on you guys for jumping on it. Hope you enjoy it, and maybe could lead to you checking out the other series set in this same universe.
There's actually 8 episodes in Season 1 so yall have a few more to go! They've already started recording Season 2 also so that's super exciting! Really liked yalls reaction to the episodes.
I have a feeling Lucifer is much trickier than he seems. He is literally wearing an Apple and a Snake around his hat and on his cane. I don't think he would wear them unless he was proud of them and the acts of rebellion they were associated with. Like Alastor, he may have unseen plans even though he obviously does care about his daughter. He's the King of Hell for a reason, despite how friendly he acts.
I think Omn1Media had the best take about this episode. Lucifer is still so devastated by heaven's rejection of him that he still today is afraid of doing anything of import for fear that he'll screw it up. And that extends to his relationships with his daughter. She's so important to him that he's afraid of disappointing her, so he avoids her out of anxiety. But in doing so, he's letting her down anyway.
If you've ever watched Disney's tangled series, the voice actor of Varian is the same guy that voices Lucifer. Jeremy Jordan. He has a lovely singing voice. My favorite songs he sang in was "Nothing left to lose" and "Ready as I'll ever be".
It will be interesting to hear why Alastor hates Lucifer so much could be because of Charlie? the thing that really bugs me about Alastor being part of songs is that it's only constant guesses whatever or not he means what he sings or he just tries to piss the rival off But if he does in fact care about Charlie....then why? His goal is clearly not entertainment he wants something,Could be a deal or could be that he relates with the neglect Charlie went through in her life?
The big theory going around is that the 'leash' Alastor is on is being held by Lilith, & his job has something to do with Charlie. We just don't know what he (or Lilith) is trying to accomplish.
@@KyrieChiioh I know that and Husker saying he is on a leash so he should stop pestering him about it suggests that the theory could be true, But that doesn't explain his personal hatred for Lucifer even if he is under Lilith he still has his free will and can hate/tolerate/like whoever he pleases as long as it doesn't deter Lilith goal (Kinda like Husk) So unless Lilith engraved in his soul with an intense hatred for Lucifer there must be some other reason Alastor for the first time breaks his composure like that man got personal far too quick for me to just dismiss it under his tie with Lilith
@vominomiYou made a lot of good points here. :) Some I hadn't really thought about. The funny thing about Lucifer's shortness is that surely he's in complete control of how he presents himself physically/visually (we see Asmodeus, a deadly sin, completely alter his height/size at will to be closer to Fizz's), so surely Lucifer could do the same easily)... And yet he stays himself... short. And he could care less what anyone thinks about that, even when his (ex)wife & daughter tower over him. And like you pointed out, he never seemed to feel threatened by _anything_ that happened, even looked down on Alastor's display like it was nothing. While he tries to hide it behind a smile, Alastor _does_ care what others think of him, has a serious need to feel respected, & interactions with the highest echelons of power probably knocks him down several pegs internally, which pisses him off. Our boy is right at home in the Pride ring.
Won't be surprised Alastor is under Lilith's leash like what Husker mentioned, which would explain why he's not scared or intimidated by anyone, even Lucifer. So I'm guessing Lilith sent Alastor to make the hotel a success and support Charlie like a stepdad unlike Lucifer who doesn't support Charlie's endeavor. However Alastor may have other plans later.
do they not realize that pictures of Lillith are like all around the hotel and was in Lucifers room? also it seems Lillith is the reason they were so seperated or one of the reasons anyway. SN i wish the helluva boss characters would pop up. 3 of the current characters in the cast 2 being 7 deadly sins and another being a prince of hell would actually give Charlie good advice and would actually listen to her ideas. Like nice Aunts and Uncles for her.
Have you noticed Alastor is more angry whenever Lucifer is near Charlie which is odd because if he is really on Lilith leash then why would he get upset over that. Also remember he watched Charlie performance on the television of which is something he never do. There is possibility there is a connection between Alastor and Charlie that we don’t know of.
I always get so surprised when people get surprised by Lucifer's personality. Like, in the beginning of ep1 it was clearly stated that he was a dreamer, this type of personality totally suits him. He's never been evil.
This really asks the question, what is it that Lilith did to keep Lucifer and Charlie from having a better relationship or did they already divorce at this point in time. Also the implication in the Pilot really made it seem like Lucifer was much harsher towards her daughter since Charlie said her father thought she was a failure.
To be fair, the Pilot could be 'outdated' with its lore. IIRC, even with Helluva Boss that started season 1 much closer to its pilot in terms of time, they changed the lore of Blitz having two sisters, instead changing one to be his mother. Former lore on the Pilot was potentially changed after a good few years had past to the point where some elements are going to be changed/lost in the official seasons.
Charlie wants to help people because she believes in their potential to be better and that they deserve a happy life. As the princess of hell she feels she can help give them that. It's really that simple, just unconditional empathy. It's kind of a refreshing perspective honestly.
I know Lucifer is implied to have been very out of the picture, but he WAS protecting Charlie this whole time bc remember in episode one, the Exterminator Angel said that Lucifer made a deal with them that Hell-born citizens of Hell were to be spared during extermination - and idk how much Lucifer specifically cares about the imps, but he had to have mainly made that deal to protect Charlie specifically
I think his version of “fighting” for Charlie is keeping her away from the entities who hurt him. Not fighting as in battling, but fighting to keep her away from the state he is in, and has been in for years.
You're forgetting lucifer is just a fallen Angel. Barely even evil. And you forgot the very first scene where lucifer was shown as a dreamer trying to persuade heaven.
From the flashback it showed of baby charlie snd lucifer, it seemed that lillith was keeping them apart. It totally could've just been bed time but based off lucifers face in that scene it seems like it happened alot
I’m thinking maybe Lilith and Alastor have known each other long before he came to hell. If Lucifer was able to come to Lilith way back when, who’s to say Lilith couldn’t have done the same with Alastor back when he was still alive? It would explain why he was able to gain such a leg up over the other 1930’s Overlords, at the time. Not sure about the 7 years though.
I think people are way too harsh on Luci, you gotta think he's been absolutely crushed and destroyed and lost everything he had faith in, he's a broken man with his confidence shredded, he's put plenty in place to protect Charlie in his absence he's just afraid of letting go of his pride and accepting his failures and working past them, but this episode was a stepping stone for him, I love his character, he's very human and relatable, and I think more than anything he's desperate to be apart of Charlie's life he just doesn't know how to ask.
Just so you guys know lucifer and satan are not the same person in this shows cannon. Satan is the embodiment of wrath while lucifer "The top boss of hell" is representing pride.
my theory is that alastor 7 years ago sold his soul to eve and at that same time lilith got scared that eve was gonna attack her and in fear of that she left 7 years ago so 7 years ago must have been the time period eve secretly executed part of her plans to make a contract with alastor and to scare away lilith
11:44 I think what he meant by this was because he's the reason Charlie, Lilith, and the other Hellborn (not including Sinners bc they're human souls) are pardoned from being exterminated. He had to negotiate with the Angels to spare his family and keep them safe
That was a fiddle, not a violin. A lot of lore has the devil be a great fiddler, even has a song about it, a guy playing against the devil, devil wins he gets his soul, guy wins he gets a golden fiddle
I wonder what Alastor's deal is. We know now that he's working under someone,but we don't yet know precisely who that may be. My gut says Lilith, but I'm also assuming the events of the pilot are entirely canon, which may not necessarily be the case.
I've probably listened to the song "More than anything" 100 times and... I always have tears on my eyes, especially at this point "You are part of who I am"
Gotta love Alastor and Lucifer's banter in this episode! Especially the part where Alastor decided to hit him where it would HURT THE MOST -- acting like the dad who stepped up (and that *REALLY* got under Lucifer's skin, to the point he drew out his gold fiddle 😂). Lucifer: Ha ha ha! Not a very good name for a hotel! 😈 Alastor: Ha HA! ...Fuck you. 😈💢
Despite Alastor being a demon he’s one of the few who doesn’t CONSTANTLY swear. Perhaps it’s because he believes it’s beneath him and not seen as classy, and he only does it when he’s genuinely mad or upset which isn’t often. I kinda like that about his character.
About Lilith's face, you can see it in Lucy's room when Charlie is calling him. But yeah, apparently they split 7 years ago and she disappeared? What's up with that? That might also have something to do with Alastor's disappearance in the same timeframe, as Lilith probably has him as her personal Overlord.
I absolutely love how they depicted Lucifer. Charlie and Lucifer's song absolutely blew me away with how much the voice actors embody these roles. They passionately put their heart and soul into said songs and vocals. I absolutely love how they depicted Lucifer as a caring and loving father who, albeit he has trouble connecting to his daughter and is a bit of an anti-social goofball, still loves Charlie no matter what and wants to believe in her vision. Still, he sees himself in her and doesn't want her crushed under Heaven's laws/ruthlessness. But despite how scared he is and how much of a failure he feels like, his daughter brings out his hope once again and sees his dream live on through her vision to redeem sinners, so of course, he'd be willing to do anything he can to support her and try and convince Heaven sinners can be redeemed. Jeremy Jordan and Erika Henningson both did a phenomenal job in this episode. I also love how Alastor is the ultimate troll in this show as he already SAVAGELY roasted Vox, and the fact he has the guts to roast Lucifer in front of his own daughter (who seemingly goes along with it) indeed shows how little f***s Alastor gives. I also love that Alastor hasn't sworn this entire time in the show or in the pilot, yet he saved his first F-bomb and said it directly to the King of Hell, Lucifer, himself; he is just a complete legend! I do wonder who Alastor is under the control of. A lot of people, including myself, have theorised that Alastor is taking orders from Lilith (Charlie's mom), who may have sent Alastor to act as a guardian to protect Charlie and keep her dream alive; after all, both Alastor and Lilith are said to have been seen in 7 years. Yet, Alastor suddenly shows up out of nowhere to help, which seems way too coincidental.
Charlie from the pilot episode established that she calls her mother Lilith more often and openly talks about trying to make the hotel work. After the failed news broadcast, Charlie called Lilith asking for advice and guess who shows up? Alastor who says he made it his goal to help Charlie, he may have another motive underneath. But he's actively trying to make sure the Hotel gets up and running, so I think it is Lilith who told him to do it. He's a guy trying to take over the top dogs of Hell, but probably failed and sold his soul to someone really high up.
Seems like heavy references to the epic poem Paradise Lost, which is about Lucifer wanting to gain free will and change the reign of heaven, but being cast down to hell
Well Lucifer rly always just wanted to do good. He gave people free will which led to the creation of hell and him becoming fallen. I bet he blames himself for everything that happened just because he tried to do a good thing. So it makes sense that he is nice. He probably could just kill Alastor for the disrespect he's been showing, but he won't and I think that's because he is trully an "angel" and doesn't kill people.
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There are two more episodes coming out on February second there are to my understanding there are going to be 8 episodes for this season with a season 2 on the way
Please watch Helluva Boss if you haven't already and also can't wait for your reaction to the new episode
Different questions every episode
Lucifer has always seen himself as the ugly duckling that couldn’t become the beautiful swan…hence his obsession
Lucifer and Charlie are more alike than we think. They want what’s best for each other, they love to sing spectacularly and they’re into women.
Charlie is bi 😊 she was with a guy in Hell High School and is confirmed as a bi girl by Vivzie. She is bi just like Moxxie ❤
@@DanteDevonshire Ah, yes, Moxxie the bi girl.
@@yarn2350 Lmao
@SlitherBrickStudios-Cobraoh yup he is
@@yarn2350 Hey, as much as he loves cross-dressing he might be. I don't judge 😇
Hearing Alastor use profanity is GOLD. That’s how you know he’s really upset because nobody really gets to him.
Even with vox alastor was calm and collected where he got the upper hand pretty quickly and that finding his rivalry pretty entertaining but with Lucifer ooo he founds his match with the attitude hand in hand with power that he got ALASTOR IN THE LOOP and annoyance you can tell he get into alastor skin just by seeing he’s coming to the hotel
The way he said it was so cathartic
Literally! It was so unexpected
I was honestly a bit worried that Alastor swearing would feel weird or out-of-character in some way, since I feel like it would be too easy to mess it up, but I'm glad it didn't feel weird in the slightest. They chose a good swear word and put it in a good moment.
I love it, because it's like the only time he really curses, and it's great that it's Lucifer that makes it happen.
Lucifer screams teen dad who doesn't know what he's doing but is trying his best 😂
The fact that he's not some cold, distant, egomaniacal and powermongering tyrant and he's just a short guy desperate for his daughter's love and apparently battling depression(the Sin of Pride battling depression? That feels.... not good, from a Ruler-of-Hell standpoint)is super endearing.
Tbh, as a fan of the show. Some episodes lately are hit and miss... Like the writing can be.. eh.. most of the songs are good though! For my opinion.
But seeing Lucifer for the first time is.. weird.. like there has been multiple versions of Lucifer in Media that depicts him the same or differently. Ofcourse i was gonna let Vivzie's version slide but.. yeah.. this dude is supposed to be the Ruler of the pride ring. He's suppised to be pridful yet, he feels so off as Lucifer..
@@jackhall4767but he DOES show he’s prideful, in not admitting that he’s not okay and sheltering himself from others in order to avoid facing his problems. Also keep in mind Lucifer’s only sin was being too arrogant.
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Just because they’re representatives of these sins doesn’t mean they can’t deviate from embodying them. Look at Asmodeus for example in helluva boss. Guy is literally in a loving monogamous relationship.
@@thewerewolff7248Don't forget about Bee she actually warned luna about him overindulging
I'm thinking Lilith who we know loved and thrived in hell began to see Lucifer in negative light or as weak because he struggles to respect hell. We know in the first episode Charlie said she "adapted or loved hell" while Lucifer "could only see the negative side of hell and became sad". Due to those differences I wonder if she began to isolate Charlie from him more and more because she knew how alike Lucifer and Charlie are.
most people seem to miss that Charlie says "since thei split" so probably she glew up with her mother mostly, and the photos on lucifer workshop corroborate with that (in all but one of then wee see charlie as a litle kid, so that was wen he still had contact with her)
good point! He obviously longed to be connected with her and he's obviously someone who is insecured and depressed. I bet as Lilith grew in power he began to shrink himself down and made himself feel small.@@butecodesentina1766
I'm just so delighted to see how much Lucifer actually cares about Charlie. Like, we assumed from the pilot that he was a neglectful parent figure - and how Charlie mostly leans towards Lilith. So I love how they showed the reconciliation between her and her father instead. It hits harder. Plus, it's Jeremy Jordan bro.
The resolution seems a little cheap given the pilot is canon but hey, can't exactly be mad at a guy that talented.
I don't even see any incongruencies from the pilot to now. For example, assuming Luci was neglectful was just that. An assumption (that I didn't have). There wasn't enough information in the pilot to draw conclusions on what Charlie's mom and dad were like, or to really fully know how their relationship with eachother was like. What we got from the pilot is that Charlie called her mom, so she feels/hopes she can talk to her. And that her dad said something, but we don't know what or why. Like, he could have said something Charlie interpreted one way and he meant another. 🤷♀
@@chere100 "I think dad was right about me" Plus the ominous shadow figure behind Charlie in the opening song strongly suggest he was originally meant to be a dlckhead. Idk how she could interpret him just being a recluse to be this antagonistic towards her otherwise. From the opening sequence of episode 1 we get a completely different story with Charlie having a completely positive outlook towards her dad. I think it's clear this was simply changed in the many years it took for this show to come out which is fine but also confusing with the pilot being mostly canon.
@@anitaremenarova6662 All the figures in the opening song were shadowy. Including herself. It's probably the part with her singing about being a failure with her dad behind her that gave the negative impression, but that can mean it's her own internalized problem (like wanting to impress him, looking up to him but not thinking herself good enough, etc), not that her dad is somehow bad. And yeah, she said "I think dad was right about me", but as I said, we have no idea what that means or what was said. It seems from the way she said it that it's something she interrupted negatively, but since we didn't get any more info at that time, we can't actually figure out what that ultimately means (then).
But if you put in the context of the information we now have, we know that her dad is socially awkward (with his daughter), he's depressed, and he feels hopeless. He is for some reason separated from his wife, and pictures imply he might not have been closely involved the entire time when Charlie was growing up (possibly because Lilith took her away). He's kind of given up, and he's in some way prideful (Sin of Pride). I think he probably said something that hurt Charlie, but he probably didn't mean to hurt her. You know, like when he was kind of doing the I told you so brag when Alastor was attacking those guys after Mimzy. And Charlie got upset, "why can he believe in me but my own dad can't?" And you can see Luci's face fall. He doesn't want to be bad or seen in a bad light by his daughter, he's just kind of... bad at daddying.
It's not just that Alastor got so mad he swore, but how much vemon he put into it, that makes it so hilarious. Also, Given how many A-hole dads Vivienne has made, I was really expecting Lucifer to be another example. But no, he's super lovable. You can tell he cares about Charlie and he's really trying to connect with her. I never thought I'd love the Lucifer this much, but here we are.
You've got that right.
Yeah, Lucifer is one of my favorite characters now.
@@waterbullstudios9195Same
I really like how they didn't portray Lucifer as like the typical top dog, he just seems like a guy who happens to be in power, it's kinda like Tom Ellis' Lucifer, seems like an ordinary nonchalant guy with glimpses of his true power showing.
To me it makes sense why Charlie despite possibly being one of the most powerful beings in he'll, never shows her power and isn't an overlord or something. Because Lucifer is the same way, passive but not weak. Cause despite all the Overloeds wreaking havoc, Alastor taking people out one by one, not ONE of them have ever tried to kill Lucifer or Charlie. Because 1. They don't make ripples 2. They don't WANT them to make ripples, a seraphim wielding fallen angel magic against the demons? Their worst nightmare, better to leave the Duck in his pond than piss them off and get a goose.
@@Ashbrash1998also because in this canon Lucifer and by extension Charlie are literally just good intentioned Angels who never even had any malice to begin with
They're like this because they're just straight up good people and Charlie was raised to be a good person 😭
This is what a guy who gained power accidently looks like, my theory is that because in hell "might makes right" he and lilith came down and the other sins attack them but got their ass handed to them and declared them king and queen and they just said "hu...sure"
I think satans gonna be the version most ppl would expect lucifer to be. I like the separation of the overlord of wrath and the angel that was cast out, it’s an interesting way to include both versions of the devil.
I think vivze from day always maintained Licifer was just a goofball
It’s always unique to see Alastor express different emotions, because even though he always has that smile on his face, he isn’t always happy and it’s very interesting to see how he expresses those other emotions with that smile on his face
It’s crazy how it takes Lucifer to make Alastor upset and frustrated, but Vaggie disrespects him all the time.🤣
because Luci's respect means something and matters to him. RD has only been in hell for a little under a hundred years, this is the literal devil. been there for thousands.
Alastor is a threat to his fatherly position while Vaggie. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ vaggie isn't.
Well, it seems like Alastor hates having anyone more powerful than him in the room. Lucifer could crush him in a fight so he goes for mental warfare instead.
@@MewDenise That's exactly what it is. The moment that Lucifer walked into the room, it was clear that Alastor could no longer take center stage. When the king is in the room, Alastor just becomes another demon.
@@MewDeniseCharlie is more powerful than him
I fully expected Lucifer to be your typical non supportive dad who's super emotionally distant from their kid and turns out to be a major obstacle. And yesh, he tries to dissuade Charlie at first, but it's ti protect her. the Devil is actually not that bad. You can tell he's really trying to have a connection with Charlie and genuinely cares about her. He's honestly kind of adorable. I love how often Vivienne subverts our expectations with this show.
Agreed. It reminds me a bit of Doofenshmirtz and Vanessa's relationship.
Jeremy Jordan does a fantastic job.
I love this guy.
I guess he wished for Charlie to have a better and kinder environment than be stuck around all those sinners. She is like that rainbow and ponies girl and not blood and masacre so he is depressed that becouse of his actions his dauther is forced to live here. I guess when Charlie would be in danger Lucifer would enter daddy mode and blow up showing full power.
Lucifer loves Charlie above all else, but his depression is what keeps him so distant and that's something that won't go away with a song.
It's also important to keep in mind that there's just so much of an experienced difference between him and his daughter. Lucifer literally predates humanity itself, and the fact that humans keep going to Heaven is undeniable proof that they are _capable of doing right,_ but choose to do wrong, and seemingly never learn from their mistakes. And then when they go to hell, they become even worse. So from Lucifer's POV, they probably just seem like a lost cause his daughter shouldn't give her time, or compassion to.
Greg: "Make it clear that they are dating!"
Charlie: "This is my girlfriend Vaggie"
...Well they listened to you
I mean, he asked and they delivered q(❂‿❂)p
"Babe" -First word Vaggie says in the entire series, to Charlie.
I dont get this argument people use "make it clear they are dating" or "make it clear they are gay"
Why? Why does the show need to do that?
Are people not inteligent enough to see?
Alastor cursing had me dying I had to pause the show 😂
fr like damnnnn 😂😂😭
same i had to take a breath lmao
I paused to cuz WHAT 💀 he's NEVER sworn until that point that's crazy 💀🤣
Lucifer really pissed him off
@@ATrixsterr not nearly as bad as vox did
“they’re behaving more like a couple now” vaggie called charlie ‘babe’ at least three times in previous episodes 😭
Ain't no way😮
4:58 Hearing Alastor use profanity as GOLD because nobody really makes him upset so that’s how you know he’s really mad.
To me, Alastor is like the fairy godmother to Charlie's disney princess. He's the demonic godfather. 😅
Really took the opportunity to make Alastor swear for the first time or ever to be directed at Lucifer himself💀
Don’t make Lucifer’s appearance and behavior fool you remember that he is still the strongest demon and the ruler of the Hell so just because Alastor is pulling his card doesn’t mean he’s any pushover
Exactly!!! In this show first or even second appearences cannot be trusted. Like Alastor; everything he does has a selfish purpose. He doesn't care for anyone but himself.
Exacto!! Literalmente que lo veamos actuando si de buena gente es porque se está dirigiendo a su hija, pero no sabemos cómo trata con los demás un gran ejemplo es la imponente que es para alator que incluso lo hizo decir groserías jajaj
He's a bit like me; we're both goofy, nerdy, loving towards those closest to us...but if you cross the line, the gloves come off
Notice that Alastor never tried to compare his power to Lucifer's like he would with any of his other rivals. He knows he's outmatched in that department so he uses being closer to Charlie than Lucifer is to get under his skin instead
@@TravisTheRed That's the problem...if Al makes even the smallest wrong move against Charlie, HE might end up becoming one of the newest anguished voices in his radio soundtrack
When Alastor said “call me Dad” I was SCREAMING.
This ended up being my favorite conflict in the show. Regardless of Alistor's sincerity, I hope the show keeps playing on it.
@@em5522 SAME
YESSSS!!! Plus with that head-turn, I am always DELIGHTED at his pettiness 🤣👌
I went "OHHH!!!! OWWW!!!" because I jumped out of my chair while shouting OH when that line was dropped and hit my knee on the table which result in an OW
The fact that one of the ONLY times Alastor swears it right to the King of Hell himself.... that's big. Can anyone else recall Alastor swearing, especially dropping the F bomb before this moment?
Nah, the only thing close is when he said pissy during the vox & Al duet
"But you haven't been fighting for her..."
He personally got her off Heaven's Exorcist kill list"; he HAS been fighting for her for a long time, despite everything else he was struggling with and even if not in the best way.
In episode one we do know that Lucifer has "fought for hell" before. He is the one that struck the deal that ensured only the Sinners get executed with Lute the female angel kinda mockingly told Charlie. "How does it feel knowing your Dad is the reason that is keeping an Exorcist blade from you and your hellborn kind." Lucifer doesn't really have a connection to the sinners at all, gotta remember they are technically all the children of Adam and Eve. Lilith and Charlie are not related to anyone else, but they are the rulers of Hell and Sinners are just "crappy people from earth" that just get stuck in hell as punishment so he probably only vaguely cares about the actual hellborn demons like the ones in Helluva Boss.
I wonder if this is for all hell borns. Didn't Camilla have kids after coming to hell? Would they also be protected under this?
@@em5522pretty sure her kids are from her human life. Mob family
@em5522
My assumption is they aren't Hellborn but were her daughters as a human who reunited with her in Hell.
Because Vivziepop has stated that sinners are incapable of having children after they go to Hell.
The ducks are symbolism for Lucifer.
If you noticed the golden duck in the last song had the same wings as him. He is the "Ugly duckling" of heaven. He had different dream, different goals, etc, ultimately cast out.
There's a theory going around that Lilith made a deal with Alastor for him to watch over Charlie and make sure she doesn't succeed with rehabilitating sinners so she can unlock her true demonic power and protect them from the extermination
I love this
boring if that's true
I found out Jeremy Jordan voices Lucifer and I'm so happy for that. I was wondering where I heard his voice before.
"My daughter wants to seeee MEEEEEEEEEE~! Take that Depression!!" 10/10 best quote from the whole show
Yasss❤👑👑👑👑💍💍
I didn't think it was possible, but I actually think this episode topped the last one! Jeremy Jordan is fucking incredible, plus Sarah Stiles? Spinel? Holy shit, this show is quickly becoming one of my all-time favorites.
I love that they had /Lucifer play a golden fiddle. What an amazing reference to such a great song, "Devil went down the Georgia"
I have a weird theory that Alastor owes his existence to Lilith (who's music had changed hell, and he's the Radio demon- someone who could broadcast her?). As a result he's basically owing Charlie an insane amount without telling her, so he's working it off and won't be taken advantage of
What im excited about is Lilith, she seems to be the dominant figure in Hell apart from being a celebrity. I mean she’s technically the first human ‘born to be sinner’ and mother of hellspawns.
Lucifer’s depression is scary relatable. He wants to be part of his daughter’s life but fears she doesn’t want him to and won’t make the first move because of that.
I like that Lucifer hates being the ruler of hell he seems to despise it. He probably is holding onto that vision of being an angel and misses heaven. He doesn’t like demons and doesn’t like being around them.
He also doesn’t seem to like heaven that much either
@@DaVickster1078I mean you wouldn’t like somewhere that kicked you out. But you can still miss how it used to be before you messed it up
I've been thinking the same thing and have been wondering if anyone else had the same opinion. In a way, Lucifer very much still thinks like an angel, but at the same time, his values don't align with the status quo in heaven.
Alastor feels threatened with Lucifer in his presence in the same building. I can see it.
4:54: Alastor is talking crazy to Lucifer in front of his face, in front of his daughter, and in his realm
Vaggie in episode 3: I’ll spend my life being your partner.
Greg: aww, such good friends
Bro Angel Dust and Nifty flirt with every new guest that enters the hotel🤣
Would you want Lucifer as your dad?
I mean, if we’re being honest… yes.
Of course. It would be nice to have one again. My father passed away a couple of years ago. This song absolutely decimated me. It hits deep.
yes !
Yas… haahha..
Jesus loves you
I love Alastor not swearing for like any of the season, then right when he sees charlie's dad he drops an f-bomb 😭
Well dang not a beat missed in playing the new one. Good on you guys for jumping on it. Hope you enjoy it, and maybe could lead to you checking out the other series set in this same universe.
As someone with her own daddy issues, ‘More than anything’ had me SOBBING 😂
Wow they have really kicked the series into high gear with these latest two episodes!! Loving your reactions, can't wait to see what happens next!
There's actually 8 episodes in Season 1 so yall have a few more to go! They've already started recording Season 2 also so that's super exciting! Really liked yalls reaction to the episodes.
The new two episodes are just AMAZING can't wait for the last two next week
I have a feeling Lucifer is much trickier than he seems. He is literally wearing an Apple and a Snake around his hat and on his cane. I don't think he would wear them unless he was proud of them and the acts of rebellion they were associated with. Like Alastor, he may have unseen plans even though he obviously does care about his daughter. He's the King of Hell for a reason, despite how friendly he acts.
Ooh man I really like the scene with husk and Alastor, it really is setting up parallel between them and angel dust with Valentino.
Ikr, the boy was trembling. Now I know what he meant when he could understand him
I think Omn1Media had the best take about this episode. Lucifer is still so devastated by heaven's rejection of him that he still today is afraid of doing anything of import for fear that he'll screw it up. And that extends to his relationships with his daughter. She's so important to him that he's afraid of disappointing her, so he avoids her out of anxiety. But in doing so, he's letting her down anyway.
If you've ever watched Disney's tangled series, the voice actor of Varian is the same guy that voices Lucifer. Jeremy Jordan. He has a lovely singing voice. My favorite songs he sang in was "Nothing left to lose" and "Ready as I'll ever be".
It will be interesting to hear why Alastor hates Lucifer so much could be because of Charlie? the thing that really bugs me about Alastor being part of songs is that it's only constant guesses whatever or not he means what he sings or he just tries to piss the rival off
But if he does in fact care about Charlie....then why? His goal is clearly not entertainment he wants something,Could be a deal or could be that he relates with the neglect Charlie went through in her life?
The big theory going around is that the 'leash' Alastor is on is being held by Lilith, & his job has something to do with Charlie. We just don't know what he (or Lilith) is trying to accomplish.
He doesn't, my guess he's trying to piss off Lucifer and wrap Charlie around his finger all at once.
@@KyrieChiioh I know that and Husker saying he is on a leash so he should stop pestering him about it suggests that the theory could be true,
But that doesn't explain his personal hatred for Lucifer even if he is under Lilith he still has his free will and can hate/tolerate/like whoever he pleases as long as it doesn't deter Lilith goal (Kinda like Husk)
So unless Lilith engraved in his soul with an intense hatred for Lucifer there must be some other reason Alastor for the first time breaks his composure like that man got personal far too quick for me to just dismiss it under his tie with Lilith
@vominomiYou made a lot of good points here. :) Some I hadn't really thought about.
The funny thing about Lucifer's shortness is that surely he's in complete control of how he presents himself physically/visually (we see Asmodeus, a deadly sin, completely alter his height/size at will to be closer to Fizz's), so surely Lucifer could do the same easily)... And yet he stays himself... short. And he could care less what anyone thinks about that, even when his (ex)wife & daughter tower over him.
And like you pointed out, he never seemed to feel threatened by _anything_ that happened, even looked down on Alastor's display like it was nothing. While he tries to hide it behind a smile, Alastor _does_ care what others think of him, has a serious need to feel respected, & interactions with the highest echelons of power probably knocks him down several pegs internally, which pisses him off. Our boy is right at home in the Pride ring.
I adore seeing Alastor actually losing his cool around someone he knows is absolutely above him in every way, other than height.
Alastor dropping an F bomb felt like the first actual swear word in the show despite the characters swearing constantly
Just letting you know, there's actually 8 episodes in season one. Episodes 7 and 8 will be out next week ^^
Ty! I was confused for a moment when they said it was just 6eps.
@@em5522 Same here honestly, for a minute I thought I misheard about there being 8 and I got sad since it kinda ended on a cliffhanger lol
Won't be surprised Alastor is under Lilith's leash like what Husker mentioned, which would explain why he's not scared or intimidated by anyone, even Lucifer. So I'm guessing Lilith sent Alastor to make the hotel a success and support Charlie like a stepdad unlike Lucifer who doesn't support Charlie's endeavor. However Alastor may have other plans later.
do they not realize that pictures of Lillith are like all around the hotel and was in Lucifers room? also it seems Lillith is the reason they were so seperated or one of the reasons anyway. SN i wish the helluva boss characters would pop up. 3 of the current characters in the cast 2 being 7 deadly sins and another being a prince of hell would actually give Charlie good advice and would actually listen to her ideas. Like nice Aunts and Uncles for her.
(2:17) Husk is definitely giving off Murdoc vibes with his tone of voice when he learns about Charlie’s daddy issues.
Have you noticed Alastor is more angry whenever Lucifer is near Charlie which is odd because if he is really on Lilith leash then why would he get upset over that. Also remember he watched Charlie performance on the television of which is something he never do. There is possibility there is a connection between Alastor and Charlie that we don’t know of.
I always get so surprised when people get surprised by Lucifer's personality. Like, in the beginning of ep1 it was clearly stated that he was a dreamer, this type of personality totally suits him. He's never been evil.
This really asks the question, what is it that Lilith did to keep Lucifer and Charlie from having a better relationship or did they already divorce at this point in time. Also the implication in the Pilot really made it seem like Lucifer was much harsher towards her daughter since Charlie said her father thought she was a failure.
To be fair, the Pilot could be 'outdated' with its lore. IIRC, even with Helluva Boss that started season 1 much closer to its pilot in terms of time, they changed the lore of Blitz having two sisters, instead changing one to be his mother. Former lore on the Pilot was potentially changed after a good few years had past to the point where some elements are going to be changed/lost in the official seasons.
Charlie wants to help people because she believes in their potential to be better and that they deserve a happy life. As the princess of hell she feels she can help give them that. It's really that simple, just unconditional empathy. It's kind of a refreshing perspective honestly.
I know Lucifer is implied to have been very out of the picture, but he WAS protecting Charlie this whole time bc remember in episode one, the Exterminator Angel said that Lucifer made a deal with them that Hell-born citizens of Hell were to be spared during extermination - and idk how much Lucifer specifically cares about the imps, but he had to have mainly made that deal to protect Charlie specifically
I think his version of “fighting” for Charlie is keeping her away from the entities who hurt him. Not fighting as in battling, but fighting to keep her away from the state he is in, and has been in for years.
You're forgetting lucifer is just a fallen Angel. Barely even evil. And you forgot the very first scene where lucifer was shown as a dreamer trying to persuade heaven.
6:31 Lucifer just angrily playing the violin🤣
Just realized that Alastor was missing for 7 years and that Charlie hasn't seen Lilith in 7 years.
Yeah I think we all knew that lol
From the flashback it showed of baby charlie snd lucifer, it seemed that lillith was keeping them apart. It totally could've just been bed time but based off lucifers face in that scene it seems like it happened alot
I’m thinking maybe Lilith and Alastor have known each other long before he came to hell.
If Lucifer was able to come to Lilith way back when, who’s to say Lilith couldn’t have done the same with Alastor back when he was still alive?
It would explain why he was able to gain such a leg up over the other 1930’s Overlords, at the time.
Not sure about the 7 years though.
TAKE THAT DEPRESSION! Got me doing 😂
I think people are way too harsh on Luci, you gotta think he's been absolutely crushed and destroyed and lost everything he had faith in, he's a broken man with his confidence shredded, he's put plenty in place to protect Charlie in his absence he's just afraid of letting go of his pride and accepting his failures and working past them, but this episode was a stepping stone for him, I love his character, he's very human and relatable, and I think more than anything he's desperate to be apart of Charlie's life he just doesn't know how to ask.
Just so you guys know lucifer and satan are not the same person in this shows cannon. Satan is the embodiment of wrath while lucifer "The top boss of hell" is representing pride.
my theory is that alastor 7 years ago sold his soul to eve and at that same time lilith got scared that eve was gonna attack her and in fear of that she left 7 years ago so 7 years ago must have been the time period eve secretly executed part of her plans to make a contract with alastor and to scare away lilith
I love seeing alastor actually showing emotion it’s dope
11:44 I think what he meant by this was because he's the reason Charlie, Lilith, and the other Hellborn (not including Sinners bc they're human souls) are pardoned from being exterminated. He had to negotiate with the Angels to spare his family and keep them safe
The biggest joke was when mimzy said she was chased by lone sharks after she was owned $50k. IYKYK 😂
The slow head turn when Alastor says 'DAD' is perfect and nearly made me spit my drink out. Exactly my sense of humor.
Man, they chose a _very_ unfortunate time to make a joke about a character being $50,000 in debt.
That was a fiddle, not a violin. A lot of lore has the devil be a great fiddler, even has a song about it, a guy playing against the devil, devil wins he gets his soul, guy wins he gets a golden fiddle
I wonder what Alastor's deal is. We know now that he's working under someone,but we don't yet know precisely who that may be.
My gut says Lilith, but I'm also assuming the events of the pilot are entirely canon, which may not necessarily be the case.
I've probably listened to the song "More than anything" 100 times and...
I always have tears on my eyes, especially at this point "You are part of who I am"
i was not shockd about how charlie dad acted
since viv once said her dreamcast for him would be weird al yankovic
Gotta love Alastor and Lucifer's banter in this episode! Especially the part where Alastor decided to hit him where it would HURT THE MOST -- acting like the dad who stepped up (and that *REALLY* got under Lucifer's skin, to the point he drew out his gold fiddle 😂).
Lucifer: Ha ha ha! Not a very good name for a hotel! 😈
Alastor: Ha HA! ...Fuck you. 😈💢
OMG I had no clue there were more than 1 episode, thanks guys😊
Hey just a little thing
Charlie is exactly who she seems on the outside like she is untainted by the world
How the heck do you guys remove all the music from these reactions? Such a clever way to be able to show more stuff.
There’s 8 episodes, next two drop next week and a second season on the way
Despite Alastor being a demon he’s one of the few who doesn’t CONSTANTLY swear. Perhaps it’s because he believes it’s beneath him and not seen as classy, and he only does it when he’s genuinely mad or upset which isn’t often. I kinda like that about his character.
Nah. I think it's just that when he was alive, swearing just wasnt very common
I thought Alastor died in 1933@@NameHere2856
Lucifer trying to protect her, cause he knows about heaven. It feels like he doesn't wanna loose her so he pushes him away
Alastor just doesn’t like that Lucifer is stronger than him so since he can’t intimidate him he tries to get under Lucifer’s skin
About Lilith's face, you can see it in Lucy's room when Charlie is calling him. But yeah, apparently they split 7 years ago and she disappeared? What's up with that? That might also have something to do with Alastor's disappearance in the same timeframe, as Lilith probably has him as her personal Overlord.
I absolutely love how they depicted Lucifer. Charlie and Lucifer's song absolutely blew me away with how much the voice actors embody these roles. They passionately put their heart and soul into said songs and vocals. I absolutely love how they depicted Lucifer as a caring and loving father who, albeit he has trouble connecting to his daughter and is a bit of an anti-social goofball, still loves Charlie no matter what and wants to believe in her vision. Still, he sees himself in her and doesn't want her crushed under Heaven's laws/ruthlessness. But despite how scared he is and how much of a failure he feels like, his daughter brings out his hope once again and sees his dream live on through her vision to redeem sinners, so of course, he'd be willing to do anything he can to support her and try and convince Heaven sinners can be redeemed. Jeremy Jordan and Erika Henningson both did a phenomenal job in this episode. I also love how Alastor is the ultimate troll in this show as he already SAVAGELY roasted Vox, and the fact he has the guts to roast Lucifer in front of his own daughter (who seemingly goes along with it) indeed shows how little f***s Alastor gives. I also love that Alastor hasn't sworn this entire time in the show or in the pilot, yet he saved his first F-bomb and said it directly to the King of Hell, Lucifer, himself; he is just a complete legend!
I do wonder who Alastor is under the control of. A lot of people, including myself, have theorised that Alastor is taking orders from Lilith (Charlie's mom), who may have sent Alastor to act as a guardian to protect Charlie and keep her dream alive; after all, both Alastor and Lilith are said to have been seen in 7 years. Yet, Alastor suddenly shows up out of nowhere to help, which seems way too coincidental.
Charlie from the pilot episode established that she calls her mother Lilith more often and openly talks about trying to make the hotel work.
After the failed news broadcast, Charlie called Lilith asking for advice and guess who shows up? Alastor who says he made it his goal to help Charlie, he may have another motive underneath. But he's actively trying to make sure the Hotel gets up and running, so I think it is Lilith who told him to do it.
He's a guy trying to take over the top dogs of Hell, but probably failed and sold his soul to someone really high up.
Omg not the “nice guy” gaslighting 😂
Lol Huskers mug says "f*** Mondays"
Seems like heavy references to the epic poem Paradise Lost, which is about Lucifer wanting to gain free will and change the reign of heaven, but being cast down to hell
Well Lucifer rly always just wanted to do good. He gave people free will which led to the creation of hell and him becoming fallen. I bet he blames himself for everything that happened just because he tried to do a good thing. So it makes sense that he is nice.
He probably could just kill Alastor for the disrespect he's been showing, but he won't and I think that's because he is trully an "angel" and doesn't kill people.
Lucifer channeling Genie from Aladdin, in the first song hard 😀😄
Great Reaction Greg and Roxy! This episode was good! 👍
4:58 That was the first ever swearword Alastor said
There are 8 episodes not 6. So don't worry yall got more to look forward to
CHARLIE AND LUCIFER’S SONG GOT ME CRYING THAT WAS SO SWEET