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  • @WanderingExistence
    @WanderingExistence Рік тому +738

    Humans think we're so important we consider man-made things different from nature... We literally forget that we are natural animals. And we are always amazed by how smart animals are because we forget that our intelligence comes from the same domain.

    • @davidcat1455
      @davidcat1455 Рік тому +52

      Now, if I could just get my rescue kitten to learn to use the damn can opener😺👍

    • @WanderingExistence
      @WanderingExistence Рік тому +32

      ​@@davidcat1455If she's a rescue kitten, maybe you should try teaching her on a Life Alert first. Remember practice makes purrrrfect.
      Give 'em a lil belly rub for me :)

    • @scottmwilhelms2437
      @scottmwilhelms2437 Рік тому +14

      ​@@davidcat1455 But that's your purpose in life... kitty isn't that cruel. 👑🐱

    • @katie6731
      @katie6731 Рік тому +37

      ​@@davidcat1455 One of mine can use door handles and open cabinets. 🙄 He's a polydactyl, so he pretty much has opposable thumbs. We had to further baby-proof our house because of him. We already had certain things baby-proofed because we've had some freakishly clever cats and dogs (they often worked together, too) over the last twenty years, but this little man cat is in a class all his own!

    • @scottmwilhelms2437
      @scottmwilhelms2437 Рік тому +32

      Humanity's ego is unparalleled. We're superior to sliced bread... except in sandwiches. 🥪

  • @nsregelman
    @nsregelman Рік тому +275

    It's hard to imagine humanity today without Bob Ross moments. Happy accidents.

    • @O_U_No_It_2
      @O_U_No_It_2 Рік тому +8

      🎨🖼️👨‍🎨🖌️

    • @lilivonshtup3808
      @lilivonshtup3808 Рік тому +8

      Aren't we all happy accidents?

    • @nsregelman
      @nsregelman Рік тому +6

      @@lilivonshtup3808 Well, some I'm personally less happy about than others lol.

    • @dingusdingus2152
      @dingusdingus2152 Рік тому

      @@lilivonshtup3808 I'm not a happy accident. I wish I'd never been born. 45+% of all babies born are unplanned and unwanted. Get a grip lili

    • @sixfigureskibum
      @sixfigureskibum Рік тому

      Like the wheel

  • @davinanderson2003
    @davinanderson2003 Рік тому +251

    This is one of the main reasons I love this channel. You bring stories out of left field sometimes broadening the knowledge base to your viewers. And for me personally, it reminds me that outside of politics war famine and climate change the rest of humanity keeps marching on.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 Рік тому +13

      Beau's done a variety of things in his life, but I think he's found his true calling. He's a natural teacher.

    • @Canneveroverblue
      @Canneveroverblue Рік тому +5

      Well said, I have a feeling he plans it that way so we don't get too stressed & depressed. So very glad Beau was tossed my way by the Al Gore Rhythm (play on the word + no rhythm Gore from another infamous beau peep). Take care Anderson and all you late night tubers. 🌝

    • @vforwombat9915
      @vforwombat9915 Рік тому +1

      "You bring stories out of left field"
      yeah, but he's lousy at keeping the runner from scoring.

    • @veramae4098
      @veramae4098 Рік тому +1

      Just found out and sharing -- we are in the longest period of peace (no major wars) in human history!

    • @kariburlon5790
      @kariburlon5790 Рік тому +1

      I watch him every day because of this and the way he explains things in a "down to earth" way that anyone can understand.

  • @parrotletsrunearth1173
    @parrotletsrunearth1173 Рік тому +107

    The anthropocentric view that many humans carry is why we are utterly surprised when we find out things like other species deliberately making and using tools or mourning for their loved ones or solving complex puzzles.

    • @Suillibhain
      @Suillibhain Рік тому

      I personally think that has more to do with urbanization and a lack of true interaction with nature. Modern western homonids in general spend so little time in nature as to be clueless to basic nature interactions.
      I mean it has gotten so bad as to be a meme "white women ain't afraid of shit" look it up. Stupid human tricks. Mountain lions are not for petting, skunks ain't pets. Now look at how many people get injured by Bison at yellowstone.
      Next suburban meat head that tells me bears arn't dangerous, or they could fight a lion, I am gonna film them proving me wrong. The average bro couldn't go toe to toe with a beaver unarmed and achieve anything but being injured.

    • @longforgotten4823
      @longforgotten4823 Рік тому +9

      Then we happen to refer to ourselves as intelligent beings for separating ourselves from these natural and ecological processes.

    • @need-to-know-
      @need-to-know- Рік тому +8

      Although we’ve been here the least amount of time and seem to be finding out that we don’t know how to actually live here. (Not all of us, but, yeah.)

    • @longforgotten4823
      @longforgotten4823 Рік тому +7

      @@need-to-know- if we are spending most of our time projecting into the void about how amazing and intelligent we are, we will be shocked to find out. We’re not all that intelligent.

    • @need-to-know-
      @need-to-know- Рік тому +6

      @@longforgotten4823 Then we should learn more about the name we gave ourselves and see that humanity should be synonymous with humility.

  • @karennichols6674
    @karennichols6674 Рік тому +40

    When I was in high school, I was tasked with finding a speaker for one of our NHS meetings. A friend and I tracked down a museum curator who reluctantly agreed to do it. He seemed certain we'd find his work boring, but his talk actually was engaging. The thing he said that I've always remembered was that if you see an object displayed in a museum labeled as a "religious artifact," it might well be because nobody actually knew what it was used for.

    • @arturobianco848
      @arturobianco848 Рік тому +5

      Yup that or ritual use wich is pretty much the same thing in my opnion.

    • @longforgotten4823
      @longforgotten4823 Рік тому +1

      A short history of atheism is a fantastic book. The term religion is a very modern concept to begin with. Classical spiritual practices look far different than their classical counterparts.

    • @nstrangways
      @nstrangways Рік тому

      Sometimes they know damn well what it was but nobody wants to put "stone dildo" into a scientific paper.

    • @rebeccaholcombe9043
      @rebeccaholcombe9043 Рік тому +1

      All the spindle worls labeled as talismans or pendants because none of the researchers knew how spindles worked.

  • @comfortablynumb9342
    @comfortablynumb9342 Рік тому +266

    Keep in mind that only stone tools are found, but people who made stone tools probably used bone and wood too. Chimps use sticks to get termites out of holes.
    Also the line between early humans and other primates is pretty blurry.

    • @vexingcat9813
      @vexingcat9813 Рік тому +29

      They will also reshape those sticks to work more efficiently. I'm sure you have seen what Corvids can do with a paper clip to make a tool to solve a problem.

    • @wirelesmike73
      @wirelesmike73 Рік тому +20

      @@vexingcat9813 Corvids are fascinating, brilliant creatures. I have no doubt that early humans have learned a thing or two from corvids at some point in history, just out of our curiosity in observing them.

    • @wirelesmike73
      @wirelesmike73 Рік тому +25

      Also, Sea Otters use stones to crack open clam shells. Some of human's best innovations have come from observing nature. Why would early humans be any different,

    • @oddjam
      @oddjam Рік тому +4

      Good points

    • @vforwombat9915
      @vforwombat9915 Рік тому +14

      @@wirelesmike73 " I have no doubt that early humans have learned a thing or two from corvids at some point in history"
      well, they learned the word, nevermore.

  • @laurajarrell6187
    @laurajarrell6187 Рік тому +104

    Beau, I'd read a bit ago that it is possible that chimps, watching humans, were possibly close to entering the 'stone age'. They are rethinking animal intelligence, a lot. Look at the monkeys in India, stealing glasses from tourists to sell back for treats! Thankyou for this, I love it. 👍💙💖🥰✌

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Рік тому

      There are researchers who think chimps and monkeys have been in their Stone Age for somewhere around 4,000 years.
      ua-cam.com/video/J60bPFLqYOE/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/l8jcJJKeAdw/v-deo.html

  • @mzmscoyote
    @mzmscoyote Рік тому +89

    I’ve been an anthropologist since the 1970s so keeping up with the lit has been part of my life. What I have noticed is that the interpretations of the data, be it bone or stone, changes over time as we change our understandings of ourselves. One of my favorite changes came when women began to do field work among the other primates. We went from male primates fighting each other over females in order to inseminate females to female primates choosing their mates and sometimes sneaking around to hide with a favorite lover so that they not be caught out by the Alpha male. Hmmmm. It’s almost as if you can read shifting attitudes about the superiority of Homo sapiens, the roles of males and females in a species, and the cognitive abilities of primate brains that vary primarily in the complexity of convolutions in the changes in the interpretation of data.

    • @jessestreet2549
      @jessestreet2549 Рік тому

      i follow several anthropologists/archaeologists on ytube. at present Gutsick Gibbon, Stefan Milo and Minuteman are three of my favorites. all three have dunked on Graham Hankook (my spelling) pretty hilariously for his "archeological acumen".
      "when is a flake produced intentionally or accidentally and was it used as a tool" is a central question for tool usage. i read that neandertals made many apparently simple tools but those "simple" tools were struck from carefully chosen and prepared "cores", demonstrating higher order thinking than we sapiens sapiens thought them capable of.

    • @wiretamer5710
      @wiretamer5710 Рік тому +5

      Because of genetic analysis, the issue of subordinate males getting lucky, is quite common in many social animal species, including chickens big cats and many herd animals.
      The upshot of this, is that alpha males are useless, when it comes to passing on his genetic inheritance. All the bullying is a waist of time.

    • @bobclarke2242
      @bobclarke2242 Рік тому +2

      I'm old enough to personally remember dozens of women that utilized relatively sociable men to deter aggressive males. 🙂

    • @davidcopple8071
      @davidcopple8071 Рік тому

      I've always been just a bit suspicious about just how these so called " Experts" come to the conclusions that they come to. Mostly because quite often they are later proven wrong.
      I found it immensely suspicious that as soon as they figured out that many white people carry neanderthal DNA that is not present in people from Africa generally. That suddenly the whole Neanderthal, being a relatively slow witted, non verbal, brute of a subhuman species. Suddenly got a complete makeover once this connection was discovered. Suddenly they have a language, they is art attributed to them where before they were incapable of abstract thought. They suddenly had burial ceremonies and organized clans and culture.
      I'm not saying that they absolutely made all this up as soon as they found out about the DNA connection to modern Caucasians . I'm just saying it's awful suspicious that suddenly all those decades old absolutes were suddenly turned on their heads and changed directly afterwards.

  • @johnsweazy358
    @johnsweazy358 Рік тому +14

    And this is how science works you have to always be ready to start over!

  • @rorysimpson8716
    @rorysimpson8716 Рік тому +50

    When I was a very little kid I used to love to go in the woods and smash rocks together. I just wanted to know what was inside of them. Soon I was picking up big ones and smashing them together because the noise and the destruction was entertaining and it was easier to get larger stones to cleave. One time a fragment of rock jumped up and cut my me above my eye during one of these experiments and I bled everywhere, freaking out my mom. I'm not claiming to have personally discovered stone tools, but I am saying don't discount the 'Lil Bastard hypothesis.

    • @stephenwilliams163
      @stephenwilliams163 Рік тому +12

      Just because it's fun I would argue that the Lil Bastard hypothesis would explain most, if not all, of humanity's technological advances. Folks just tinkering around because they're curious or bored can be a powerful force.

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 Рік тому +2

      Love the story! Didn't know there was such a thing as the Lil' Bastard Hypothesis, makes sense, though.✌️😎🍀

    • @sophierobinson2738
      @sophierobinson2738 Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @sdwaff
      @sdwaff Рік тому +2

      Omg 😂 I just about lost my coffee!

  • @elasdray6347
    @elasdray6347 Рік тому +10

    Thank you! Other species are intelligent in ways we haven't imagined. We need to get over ourselves.

  • @CaymanGiordano
    @CaymanGiordano Рік тому +18

    Evolution moves fast: a species can’t afford to be caught knapping.

  • @suzibikerbabe8073
    @suzibikerbabe8073 Рік тому +94

    They've been rethinking this since before we observed octopus think, plan, and execute means to get at food and ravens going through several steps to do the same. Even squirrels will learn how to get around ways we've designed to keep them from getting at bird feeders. I can't think of a time when I personally reasoned that other animals can use tools and that, like many modern inventions, we happened upon tools by accident. Which were reasoned out through which tools by design were accomplished. Which tools were discovered accidentally and which were by design ... well, another chicken or egg dilemma.

    • @zeideerskine3462
      @zeideerskine3462 Рік тому

      Ants raise aphids to "milk" them for sugar and squirrels deliberately plant peanuts and nuts. That's animal husbandry and agriculture. Crows use pebbles to raise the water level in containers to reach a water level for drinking height. That means they abstractly understand displacement. Humans have traveled by raft and boat for probably hundreds of thousands of years longer than anthropologists give them credit for. Sheep have influencers called bellweathers, rhinos have midwifery, and cows have medicine women.

    • @lsmmoore1
      @lsmmoore1 Рік тому +2

      Speaking of which, an experiment on crows did indeed show that crows can figure out how to use stones to raise water level just like in the Aesop's fable. So that's one of those rare cases where an Aesop's fable might have actually been based on a real observation. Like if someone left an amphora with water in it lying around, propped up in gravel or dirt or something, and a crow just used stones to raise the water level.

    • @josephperez2004
      @josephperez2004 Рік тому +1

      Not sure if it crows, ravens, or both, but it has been observed that when a member of their group is killed by something, the group tends to return to the area. This was believed to be them having a sort of funeral, but recent research suggests that they are actually inspecting the area to understand what threats may be present.
      One could say... it's a murder investigation.

  • @joshuamowdy9230
    @joshuamowdy9230 Рік тому +25

    Hello.
    My father and I found a cash of Clovis points tools etc. Breathtaking to hold something so old that someone meant to come back for.
    Good luck

    • @Ubotit_Unaymit
      @Ubotit_Unaymit Рік тому +2

      I've found one Clovis in my lifetime. That's awesome!

    • @TonyWhite22351
      @TonyWhite22351 Рік тому +3

      Cache !

    • @BC25citizen
      @BC25citizen Рік тому +3

      That phrase…that someone meant to come back for…there’s poetry in that. Evocative.

    • @hannabaal150
      @hannabaal150 Рік тому

      @@NoName-OG1 They got married and opened a deli.😊

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 Рік тому +120

    Micro flakes may have several etiologies, however the existence of tools requiring several blows and refining chips to make -- shows intent, purpose and planning

    • @SiriusMined
      @SiriusMined Рік тому +17

      The point they are making is that some of the chips aren't refined, but useful as cutting tools, and purely incidental.

    • @burbanpoison2494
      @burbanpoison2494 Рік тому

      @@SiriusMined cutting tools for what? are we butchering meat and making tents and leather hot pants, but not smart enough to break a rock without help from a monkey yet?

    • @burbanpoison2494
      @burbanpoison2494 Рік тому +4

      and who do you think taught the monkey how to break a rock, hmmm? 👽

    • @kimberleyhosmer5997
      @kimberleyhosmer5997 Рік тому +6

      @@burbanpoison2494
      Or vice versa who taught the humans?
      I would guess that there were both found flakes that simply proved useful and also mutual observation and learning taking place. Try reading Clan of the Cave Bear and the rest of the series and you’ll get some perspective on how this could have happened.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому +8

      ​@@burbanpoison2494 rocks fall off cliffs all the time.
      Nuts sometimes land on rocks when they fall from a tree.
      At some point, without any animal help, a nut on a rock will be hit by a falling rock.
      Then it only takes observation by an intelligence to come up with smashing nuts with rocks.
      Early attempts may not have been very refined and involved demolishing large sections of cliff face.
      The trick is to bang the rocks together guts.
      ~Arthur Dent.

  • @katie6731
    @katie6731 Рік тому +13

    What separates man from animal? Turns out that it's just our egos. 😂

    • @brianmanuel727
      @brianmanuel727 Рік тому

      Our soul

    • @tombrown4683
      @tombrown4683 Рік тому +2

      Well Katie I would add duplicity & betrayal. IOW, nothing good.

    • @arturobianco848
      @arturobianco848 Рік тому +3

      @@brianmanuel727 ever seen or touched your soul? neither have i now i'm not saying there isn't one but whats makes you think animals don't have one or a completly different one?

  • @aliahope-wilson4449
    @aliahope-wilson4449 Рік тому +50

    This has been brought up with homo naledi too, and the fact that stone tools of a similar age found in that environment can no longer be automatically attributed to early homo sapiens.

    • @oddjam
      @oddjam Рік тому +4

      We know sapiens weren't the first tool users or the first fire users. But not all humans are homosapiens. I think it's fair to call homo naledi human.

    • @catsonmeth1
      @catsonmeth1 Рік тому

      well yeah, our ancestors' contemporaries would have had technology from before speciation and a similar capacity for development. Stone tool industry started at least as far back as Australopithecus.

    • @aliahope-wilson4449
      @aliahope-wilson4449 Рік тому

      @@catsonmeth1 that's kinda what the research is calling into question though. We can't be sure to what extent australopiths were intentionally making and using those artifacts. I personally assume they had more intelligence than what we give them credit for, but that's more to do with our biased and narrow understanding of intelligence outside our own species.

  • @lorrygoth
    @lorrygoth Рік тому +8

    I'm honestly not surprised, we are really good at learning from each other, from other animals when we pay attention to them and from nature itself. We copy and we iterate.

  • @jennhuff407
    @jennhuff407 Рік тому +13

    Pleistocene archaeologist here! Beau gives a pretty good summary of the findings and their implications for how we currently understand human origins. We really are rethinking our arguments about the oldest tools (now the Lomekwian at 3.3mya, was the Olduwan at ~2.6mya ) and who we thought for a long time was our oldest tool-making ancestor - Homo habilis (2.4-1.4mya) … interesting times for paleoanthropology and Pleistocene (even Pliocene) archaeology!! I’m happy to answer questions!

    • @kpokpojiji
      @kpokpojiji Рік тому +2

      It is interesting how a single discovery can overturn the established science. I have found a number of tools attributed to Habilis and Ergaster and never felt comfortable with the idea of them as being the "first" tool makers. The sophistication of the approach, demonstrating clearly abstract thinking in moving deliberately towards a preconceived result, would seem to be a later and intermediary step.

    • @jennhuff407
      @jennhuff407 Рік тому

      I mean… floresiensis, Neanderthal & Denisovan DNA… The Lomekwian technology - I think there’s a lot of shakeups in thinking about human evolution. I think it’s a good time to rethink all of the cognitive archaeology of those earliest tools - I think we’ve all at least joked about what chimpanzee or monkey archaeology _ might_ look like and would we be able to recognize it. And we (the scientific community collectively) have tried to teach at least one chimp to make stone tools, although they (the chimp) decided on a very different method based on their anatomical advantages and disadvantages for the task. I think it’s super fun… I am such a nerd, I find human evolution to be really exciting!!

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 Рік тому

      To both you and @kpokpojiji, that has to be amazing to actually find tools our ancient ancestors created. Living in California, I've recently become familiar with just how vibrant and varied the indigenous cultures here were. So much was destroyed and so many killed by settlers and the government. Peoples who had been established for at least 11k years. I wish we had more of them and their culture to learn from.
      On a different note, do either of you have any recommendations of places where an amateur or students could participate in archeology digs? 💜✌️😎

    • @ShatteredZen
      @ShatteredZen Рік тому +1

      Except its not a good summary and these stones aren't anything like Lomekwi with direct percussion to prepare a stone core and they don't even remotely resemble knapped tools in the Oldowan complex. The article sounds good for people who don't understand anything about knapping or stone tools, but its a huge stretch to argue that incidental stones used to hammer nuts which are discarded and the debitage created by this hammering as "artifacts" and its downright dis-ingenuine to compare these never used "flakes" to purposefully driven bladelets from a stone core.

  • @CollinGerberding
    @CollinGerberding Рік тому +8

    I cannot express the amount of joy I have at the realization how much more may be up to legitimate chance. That we just found these instead of created them. Like we do with everything, kind of.
    I am happy to be alive and I hope You are as well in this moment.

  • @joekanicki5306
    @joekanicki5306 Рік тому +34

    Now you are really, really trying to send some folks over the edge 😊

  • @edwardskerl5774
    @edwardskerl5774 Рік тому +13

    Thank you for helping us re-write this bit of history. Its all about making our minds up constantly with the access to new information. You help bring us that new information, and for that I thank you sir.

  • @theunknownunknowns5168
    @theunknownunknowns5168 Рік тому +14

    You gotta love the scientific process. New evidence presents itself and you re-evaluate the edges of your knowledge. Also the story of humanity is so interesting, love it, love it! I'm a Clan of the Cave Bear fan, can you tell?

    • @vanivari359
      @vanivari359 Рік тому

      Maeh, i struggle with the terms "evidence" and "science". This is all a high level of educated guessing mixed with the interpretation of the person guessing and you can see this way to often in social sciences. The science part is missing, where we can verify this idea with predictions and experiments. Even if we could see it happening among monkeys today, it would not proof anything. It's closer to stark trek than to astrophysics.

    • @longforgotten4823
      @longforgotten4823 Рік тому +1

      @@vanivari359 as a historian, which is the closest to the hard science in the social sciences, hard science is used quite a bit within our discipline. We just have to be creative on top of that. It’s a mix of arts and hard science. One needs to be properly trained in both to properly utilize the disciplines.

    • @monicaluketich6913
      @monicaluketich6913 Рік тому

      Instead of Clan of the Cave Bear, check out W.Michael Gear & Katheen Gear books, "People of the..." series (about 25 books). If I remember correctly, one is an anthropologist and the other archeology. They write about Native America's before the Spanish came. They cover tribes from Canada and USA and time periods starting at about 15,000 yrs ago. I never realized (or were taught) that Native Americans were not just warriors, but some tribes grew their food similar to farms, others were traders, different customs and life styles.

  • @solveigsstudio7858
    @solveigsstudio7858 Рік тому +8

    I am re-reading Jean Auel's "Clan of the Cave Bear", first in her 6-book "Earth's Children" series. They are set at a time when Neandrethals and Cro-Magnons co-existed. Fascinating now to hear Beau talk about early tools and when and where they came from. "Fossil evidence suggests that Neanderthals, like early humans, made an assortment of sophisticated tools from stone and bones." (from website History)

    • @kpokpojiji
      @kpokpojiji Рік тому +1

      Neanderthals were humans, as were all the various hominids alive and interbreeding at the time. The last full-blooded Neanderthal burial was recently discovered in Portugal and only dates back to approx. 24,000 BCE- rather recent in the long term scheme of things. And obviously someone had to bury this person. There is no evidence yet discovered that would indicate that different hominids at that time recognized each other as different or "the other." Perhaps it was because survival was so precarious, but cooperation, not conflict or competition, would appear to have been the norm.

    • @pamplachte5089
      @pamplachte5089 Рік тому

      Remember reading Clan of the Cave Bear series.

  • @WanderingExistence
    @WanderingExistence Рік тому +279

    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism...." - [Curious] George Orwell

  • @LeftCoastStephen
    @LeftCoastStephen Рік тому +8

    A whole new view of the old “invention is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration”.
    Thanks Beau, I’ll have to look up the papers on this.

  • @dianahowell3423
    @dianahowell3423 Рік тому +2

    I smell a paradigm shift in the academic air! I love this stuff!

  • @lynnschooler992
    @lynnschooler992 Рік тому +59

    There is also the likelihood that early humans saw monkeys using rocks and creating flakes and simply said ' we can do tattoo.' And did.

    • @dw216
      @dw216 Рік тому +2

      I was scrolling through to see if anyone else had this very thought of observe and copy ☀️

    • @jeffking887
      @jeffking887 Рік тому +3

      We can do Tattoo? DE PLANE DE PLANE!! ( Lord I apologize for that)

    • @chrisball3778
      @chrisball3778 Рік тому +3

      I don't think our ancestors directly copied the monkeys in the study, more likely multiple groups of primates have evolved similar behaviour. You can see the development of smaller teeth as early humans evolve- this means that they were clearly already using tools to do a lot of the jobs that other primates use their teeth for, like cracking nuts and cutting meat. Other animals that re more closely related to us than the Thai monkeys also use tools- e.g. chimps. It's still neat that there are more advanced non-human animals than we previously acknowledged.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 Рік тому

      Or other way around

  • @eddominates
    @eddominates Рік тому +11

    It's so fun when Beau tells us happy things. Yay monkeys!

  • @koh9894
    @koh9894 Рік тому +5

    Apologies to you Beau... I haven't "liked" a video in a long time. Thank you.
    I wish i could go back and "like" them all.
    This one reminded me that it's there.
    Your content is so diverse... I applaud your efforts to keep us informed. Fantastic.

  • @chelisue
    @chelisue Рік тому +63

    Everytime i hear of one of these things where we got it wrong it makes me smile. We’re gonna grow just a little more as a result

    • @johnalbrecht1628
      @johnalbrecht1628 Рік тому

      You don't grow in Tennessee you regress!

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 Рік тому +9

      This is what so many people don't understand about science. It's based on theories that best fit what we know at the time. As our knowledge expands, the theories evolve.

    • @joycastle.
      @joycastle. Рік тому +10

      We didn't necessarily get it wrong. Beau is just pointing out that things may have been different from what we've come to take as a fact. But it may just as well have happened exactly that way. This is just a friendly reminder that we don't know these things. Anything related to prehistory (and much if history) is just a more or less educated guess.

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan Рік тому

      ​@@joycastle. Yup. I looked up the articles about this. Becasue “science getting it wrong” is often used by fundies to promote their young earth creationism. The study is about tools used by primates 1 to 3 million years ago. Nowt to do with homo sapiens. I think we are only a couple of hundred thousand years, and our toolmaking going back 60k years ? 👍

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Рік тому

      @@joycastle. I've always thought tool use might have been discovered by accident. I also am willing to look at the possibilities that a)we learned it from other primates, or b) that we and our primate relatives learned/developed the technology separately.

  • @williamroop451
    @williamroop451 Рік тому +8

    I think that this shirt and this message is one of my favorite so far.
    It's been said that the opposable thumb is humanity's "super powers"... I've always thought it was our ability to innovate whatever we see. Then I saw documentaries on Otters, Toucans, and chimpanzees using natural tools and realized that nature put that in most species on earth. Our TRUE "super power" is to take things to the Nth degree - often taking them TOO far to the destruction of whatever gets in our way.

  • @elram2649
    @elram2649 Рік тому +14

    This is hilarious news in more ways than one! 😁

  • @kxs7267
    @kxs7267 Рік тому +12

    Fascinating and thought-provoking in so many ways. Not just a thought but a whole host of them! Thanks, Beau.

  • @jaynorris3722
    @jaynorris3722 Рік тому +27

    Oooohhhh this is going to have some people getting their undies in a twist. Get ready for the it can't be real chants.😁

    • @Canneveroverblue
      @Canneveroverblue Рік тому

      My thought exactly, be right up there with masks, vaxs, and climate change!

  • @brainpain8504
    @brainpain8504 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting.
    Love ancient anthropology; Lucy and all that.

  • @garethhobley2707
    @garethhobley2707 Рік тому +3

    That has always made sense to me,I remember a teacher being asked that and she said it was probably a happy accident. That was back in the 60ts and I have always though that makes sense

  • @TreeCutterDoug
    @TreeCutterDoug Рік тому +5

    Really cool to find my favorite journalist beating my favorite SciShow channel to a neat story!

    • @Ubotit_Unaymit
      @Ubotit_Unaymit Рік тому +1

      What channel? If I may ask.

    • @TreeCutterDoug
      @TreeCutterDoug Рік тому +2

      ​@@Ubotit_Unaymit SciShow!!! It's the name of the channel... They cover a WIDE gambit of topics, from anthropology to oceanography to astronomy and tons in between! Really a great educational channel. PBS Eons is another favorite.

  • @bucyrus5000
    @bucyrus5000 Рік тому +1

    Recognizing the utility of those shards is the big brain moment.

  • @JustinMShaw
    @JustinMShaw Рік тому +7

    There has been a long term upheaval in our thinking, going from an old view that our tool-making was key to our success to a new one in which our group coordination was our initial strong advantage.
    I consider the issue settled by what people tend to focus most of their attention to when not otherwise directed: talking to and about each other, or watching each other. Social skills are what our survival mechanism tries to emphasize in us.

  • @jcreadore
    @jcreadore Рік тому +9

    YESSSSSSS! I heard about this last week! Glad you did a video on it! Fascinating! 🥰💯👍

  • @ericjohnson3746
    @ericjohnson3746 Рік тому +4

    Observation and openness is everything. Remember in highschool we thought we knew everything. Then after the first week of college we were humbled by the sudden awareness of a vast knowledge we didn't know about.

  • @theawesomeladybird9604
    @theawesomeladybird9604 Рік тому +1

    Keep banging the rocks together, guys.

  • @Opus313
    @Opus313 Рік тому +243

    Beau is warning us about the impending monkey uprising!

    • @DavidRichardson153
      @DavidRichardson153 Рік тому

      Maybe we had better stop producing and selling so many ARs before things get too far out of our control.
      Then again, there are more AKs than any other firearm, so maybe we are already f^^^ed.

    • @shanesanders2255
      @shanesanders2255 Рік тому +16

      I wouldn't put it past the 2020's.

    • @katie6731
      @katie6731 Рік тому

      Or letting us know that once we all die out from climate change and the inevitable wars over resources, there will be another species ready to take our place. 😁

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 Рік тому +20

      Hail Caesar! 🦍

    • @FR-ji3hw
      @FR-ji3hw Рік тому +15

      That happened in 2016

  • @CollinGerberding
    @CollinGerberding Рік тому +7

    It turns out the friends we made along the way were Curious George this entire time.
    Hope You're as excited as i am, Internet People.

  • @sumiland6445
    @sumiland6445 Рік тому +9

    Birds are pretty smart, too. A crow will not only use tools, but have been known to make a tool a better tool. A straight piece of wire can reach the food in a hole, but not get it out. The crow takes the wire to a rock and figures out how to bend one end into a hook. Then the crow easily gets all the food out if the hole.

  • @ProudVermin
    @ProudVermin Рік тому +2

    Some day I want a "Beau Closet Tour." I mean the amount of T-Shirts this man owns....

  • @RachelDAdams
    @RachelDAdams Рік тому +1

    Fascinating! Thanks for this story... I love anthropology.

  • @AlsanPine
    @AlsanPine Рік тому +45

    in fact many animals use tools... including crows. the old idea that tools were a domain of humans was debunked quite a while ago. if we think about it, it makes sense that we too used stones and sticks at first and as accidental shapes were made that proved more effective, we learned to repeat those accidents and progress through the millennia to cause the shapes on purpose. so far, it is that refinement of tools is what is unique about humans. we are different because we are progressive.

    • @CallieCatCuddles
      @CallieCatCuddles Рік тому

      Al, obviously not all of us, but the knuckle-draggers have their own camps and "news" sources. They are not, I repeat, are not progressive! 😂

    • @pansepot1490
      @pansepot1490 Рік тому +4

      Yup. Besides using the word “humans” is misleading. Our current species evolved over a long period of time. I doubt our ancestors who first used tools would be considered humans by today standards. We improved our tools as we evolved.

    • @sharonwilbourne7256
      @sharonwilbourne7256 Рік тому +3

      Other animals modify tools too. Some primates and corvids modify the length of stick they are using to access food.
      We were fishing in a kettle lake. These types of lakes were formed when a big chunk of a receeding glacier fractures off and is left behind as the glaciers receded. It was a bright, but overcast day. The water was calm and clear. The bottom was sandy with fines and clay silt settled in the lowest spots. The lake is surrounded by Pines.
      While fishing I caught and tangled up my lure on loose branches in the nearshore area. We stopped moving forward to retrive my lure to watch a Boat-tailed Grackle who seemed to be bathing.
      The Grackle was actually stirring up the sand and loose sediments to get at the aquatic invertebrates that live at the sediment water interface. He used different lengths of vegetative matter gathered from the shore, which was just a few of the Grackles paces away from his target area.
      Picturing this in my mind it seems that there were downed branches which gave some protection from fishy predators just beyond his feeding area.
      I think that he had awareness that he was being watched because he would look directly at me, changing head positions, to get the best view. I was quite close because I was in the front of the 17 foor canoe. I was about 2 yards away from the area where he was shuffling the stick aound. He had one eye toward the water. He could move quick to stab with his beak to capture his prey.
      This was a one time only, not repeatable, observation in maybe 1994.

    • @longforgotten4823
      @longforgotten4823 Рік тому +4

      Even fish, utilize stone strikes to accomplish a task. And yes, we are not the only species that has modified tools.

    • @suzieg8310
      @suzieg8310 Рік тому +2

      It's not just tools that are a refined accident-soap is spilling the cooking fat in the wood fire and finding soap in the morning, you know...I'm guessing that every human "discovery" and "invention" started with an accident

  • @abstrusepaladin
    @abstrusepaladin Рік тому +8

    The idea that humans just one day started "thinking harder" than other animals and became apex has always been hilarious. Our development to this point was as "accidental"/trial and error as all evolution is.

    • @paulh.9526
      @paulh.9526 Рік тому

      Accidental and natural selection don't work the same. Yes, there are communalities, but there is no equivalent to intelligent design.
      The Effeil tower wasn't built by trial and error (took the first clearly unique example that came to mind) where they tried building it slightly differently and it kept falling over until it was stable. Crows get the right length of hook right in one try, not a million.
      Natural selection is still very powerful (machine learning)

  • @JustinAH
    @JustinAH Рік тому +1

    Good to know the Earth will be in excellent hands after we're gone, hope they take better care of it than we have

  • @loanianderson1978
    @loanianderson1978 Рік тому +8

    New technology has allowed us to discover new things, that is the beauty of science, it is never static, change is constant. If a scientist tells you they know everything they are not a scientist. We know nothing that is why we investigate...and we need more people to join in. 😊

  • @DrSanity7777777
    @DrSanity7777777 Рік тому +6

    "It takes a special turn of mind to grasp formless reality in its essential nature and to distinguish it from the figments of the imagination which, all the same, thrust themselves urgently on our attention with a certain semblance of reality." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

  • @MrakS
    @MrakS Рік тому +2

    I can easily imagine early humans making them by accident and then on purpose when they realised they were useful.

  • @williamsharpnack5534
    @williamsharpnack5534 Рік тому +2

    Even today people learn best by observing first then going hands on...

  • @tristancannon4431
    @tristancannon4431 Рік тому +6

    Hiii everyone!

  • @robertdraper5782
    @robertdraper5782 Рік тому +3

    two things, I remember watching a documentary about Sea Otters back in the 70's it showed them swimming on their backs with Abalone on their stomachs and using small stones to break open the shells. On a school trip to the Zoo I saw a monkey get a biscuit from a moat by whipping at it with a piece of cloth at it until it was within arms reach.

  • @jvcyt298
    @jvcyt298 Рік тому +1

    You can never be 100% sure of something you dig up from a long time ago, but it is human nature to fill in the blanks with whatever they can imagine.

  • @FAMUCHOLLY
    @FAMUCHOLLY Рік тому +2

    This is how science works; question, hypothesize, test, review, repeat, (or repeat, review), reassess, hypothesize on and on.
    This is the process. This is how science works...

  • @chickensandwich8808
    @chickensandwich8808 Рік тому +3

    I believe I read that one of the hypotheses is that early humans found the tools realized their useful utility and then through observation(like sitting around watching other primates) started replicating the tools. Which would be really interesting. It just goes to show how interconnected we all are.

  • @markstyles1246
    @markstyles1246 Рік тому +5

    I'm constantly boggled by the people who think this is wrong. That changing your mind based on new evidence is somehow bad.
    "Why did that change? If you're wrong about that, what else are you wrong about?!?"
    Both GREAT questions! You've started doing science. Now, let's continue learning...

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 Рік тому +1

      I may borrow that last line. It's a beautiful comeback for those afraid if science. ✌️😎🍀
      (Now, I'm hearing "She blinded me with science...."🎶)

  • @danielcarruth8349
    @danielcarruth8349 Рік тому +1

    The beautiful thing about science is that it's always evolving

  • @mylesbarrett2031
    @mylesbarrett2031 Рік тому +2

    Someone once Said that Scientific breakthrough doesn't go "Eureka!" , it goes "Huh, that's weird..."

  • @katie6731
    @katie6731 Рік тому +4

    Hugs for my loves! 🤗💙

  • @Hjorth87
    @Hjorth87 Рік тому +6

    If you want really interesting, look to crows. Some crows use claw(?) -made tools to catch ants. The cool thing is, that on this island, there are two groups of the same bird, that has little interaction. The style of this tool is different. There are two schools of tool and they are taught from bird to bird.

  • @SaddleInTheRain
    @SaddleInTheRain Рік тому

    This was right on time, Beau. Fascinating and a much needed break from political madness.

  • @aclearlight
    @aclearlight Рік тому +1

    It's wonderful when textbooks have be re-written, especially in cases of "dethronement" like this.

  • @onlyrick
    @onlyrick Рік тому +6

    Seems to me the main thing is to recognize the use that could be made of these shards, regardless of how they came to be.

  • @Ubotit_Unaymit
    @Ubotit_Unaymit Рік тому +8

    Howdy

  • @carsonm7292
    @carsonm7292 Рік тому

    This is a great example of how history does, in fact, change when new evidence is discovered. Great video.

  • @kathycannon4805
    @kathycannon4805 Рік тому +2

    Food for thought always.

  • @tenebrousoul9368
    @tenebrousoul9368 Рік тому +5

    Word to your mama!

  • @tales_of_the_crypto1583
    @tales_of_the_crypto1583 Рік тому +3

    Well howdy there Beau, burning the midnight oil I see.🤣💙

  • @danieldickson8591
    @danieldickson8591 Рік тому +1

    More and more, we as a species are coming to perceive that the differences between ourselves and many other animals on this planet are more a matter of quantity than quality.

  • @nuplanner5345
    @nuplanner5345 Рік тому +1

    Science is an awesome process of investigation, hypothesizing, research, revision, repetition…to find Truth.

  • @storyspren
    @storyspren Рік тому +5

    There's something very amusing about the idea that the first stone tools were accidentally made. Like "hey these chips that break off are kinda sharp, we could use them to cut things" and then some genius from the next generation going "you know, you can probably chip pieces off on purpose without needing a nut in between the stones" and getting dismissed for wasting effort until they figure it out and use the tool to ease effort on the long run

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 Рік тому

      Reminds me Gary Larson's Far Side neanderthals. 💜✌️😎🍀

  • @Gwennedd
    @Gwennedd Рік тому +6

    I find it a bit strange that prehistorians had never considered that the use of flint and rock chips with sharp edges to cut and shape things was accidental at first. Surely some primate or homosapien ( or other humanoid strain) found that those flying sharp-edged chips could cut... by getting cut by one a few times. It's a totally simple and sensible theory.

  • @benketengu
    @benketengu Рік тому

    Thank you for a much for sharing this with us. Leaves a lot to think about. And for a change it’s not negative

  • @sharktomesmiles
    @sharktomesmiles Рік тому

    Out of the cradle!!! It's amazing!!!

  • @rayjr62
    @rayjr62 Рік тому +4

    I wonder if anyone saw where Craftsman essentially cancelled their Fort Worth Texas Plant, laying off Nearly 400 Workers in the process. I wonder if they are going to give back all the corporate welfare the state of Texas gave them for expanding there.

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 Рік тому

      Good question! I'm betting California needs to ask some tech companies the same thing!

    • @rayjr62
      @rayjr62 Рік тому

      @@erinmac4750 And to add to that, I wonder how much corporate welfare the state of Ohio had to pony up to get Intel to build that chip manufacturing plant / campus in Central Ohio. If anyone thinks Intel agreed to expand to Ohio out of the good ness of their hearts, they are delusional.

  • @scottmwilhelms2437
    @scottmwilhelms2437 Рік тому +4

    Sticks and stones
    I recall watching a documentary where apes used sticks to reach inside insect nests, termites I believe, for a protien rich snack.
    Think fondue sans the cheese.

  • @Keirfey
    @Keirfey Рік тому +1

    The creatures of this earth are far more intelligent than people seem to give them credit for, by and large. The human mind never stops learning, and animal brains work on many of the same basic principles. We see it in our pets when we talk to our dogs and cats, etc. What is learned by any creature is another thing entirely.
    I remember watching Gorillas in the Mist as a child. That film leaves a mark... It gave me a deeper appreciation for life.

  • @thesquirrelchase-exploreph5635

    I've always been suspicious of the narrative that we are so special. Birds drop nuts and clams to open them. Some used to use my dad's flat tar roof to cook open shellfish.

  • @cobrachicken07
    @cobrachicken07 Рік тому +4

    I remember learning all kinds of erroneous notions in school. That's why we have to keep educating ourselves. Be a life long learner and challenge long held assumptions in education, work, and relationships.

  • @sharonmontag1330
    @sharonmontag1330 Рік тому +6

    Going to drive MAGA wildd! Love it.

    • @LeslieKashiwada
      @LeslieKashiwada Рік тому

      That was my first thought too, but they don't believe that "humans descended from apes" thing anyway, so they won't care.

  • @mooonpaw
    @mooonpaw Рік тому +2

    Me in 2015: "I mean.. Yeah, I guess, Beau?" Me in 2023 looking back over the past 6 years: "I reckon we're still giving Humanity a bit too much credit there, Beau."

  • @OGK_Show
    @OGK_Show Рік тому

    The beauty of science is how such information can lead to changing ideas that once were considered correct or the most plausible scenario.

  • @davidcat1455
    @davidcat1455 Рік тому +5

    Howdy😃👍🇺🇦🇦🇺🇺🇸

  • @krizz2820
    @krizz2820 Рік тому +4

    Kinda funny that little flakes of stone smashed by monkeys are *still* on the "cutting edge" of human scientific discovery...

  • @dr.zoidberg8666
    @dr.zoidberg8666 Рік тому

    Love shit like this.
    In a better world I never would have needed to learn a thing about politics & would have just been a nerd for history, geography, & science.

  • @shawnfairbanks9339
    @shawnfairbanks9339 Рік тому +2

    I think most of us have used our channelocks as a hammer before, because it was the tool we had next to us lol

  • @brianlawson3757
    @brianlawson3757 Рік тому +3

    I've been watching an archeology channel lately called Miniminuteman. He has a video detailing a Mastodon kill site dating back 30k years. It would suggest other tool using hominids were present in North America long before modern humans arrived and settled here. Using and fashioning tools seems to be a behavior that emerges in certain primates. If I recall correctly Homo Habilis also used primitive stone tools.

    • @ShatteredZen
      @ShatteredZen Рік тому +1

      Homo Sapiens, Nenaderthal and Denisovans split from Homo Heidelbergensis and we all learned toolmaking from them and they learned from Homo erectus, who learned from homo habilis. The Oldowan tool complex comes from a hippo kill site in Kenya and it's from earlier hominids pre-dating modern humans by over a million years.

  • @aylbdrmadison1051
    @aylbdrmadison1051 Рік тому +4

    Depends on exactly what stone flakes we're talking about. Flint knapping is a deliberate skill. Not saying a monkey couldn't learn it perhaps, but it's a highly developed skill for even a modern human to learn. One that's likely not mastered in a matter of months, but years. Regardless, I love this discovery.
    We're not all that different even from monkeys, let alone other humans.❤🌍🌎🌏

    • @arturobianco848
      @arturobianco848 Рік тому +2

      Nobody is saying that flint knapping wasn't perfected by humans just that they might not have discovered it and that the early stone tool use/crafting might have come a bit later then we thought.

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 Рік тому +2

      ​@@arturobianco848 : I didn't assume what anyone knows, or does not know. I just made a clarification (without any criticism) for those who may not know. On the other hand, you did make an assumption of what I intended, when none of my words implied that. I simply made a statement without any judgment.
      What more could you expect? Do I have to figure out how to read minds? Just asking, not assuming.

  • @jeanine1410
    @jeanine1410 Рік тому

    Thank you Beau.

  • @tcs007
    @tcs007 Рік тому +1

    Don't forget about the Orangutan in Borneo that was captured on film using a spear to fish. Well, a stick, but he was using it like a spear.

  • @deanvaillancourt2881
    @deanvaillancourt2881 Рік тому +3

    🖐🌞🤗🌄

  • @Davysgravy
    @Davysgravy Рік тому +6

    This channel really makes me think❤
    It's even possible monkeys learned this behavior from watching early humans and just simply keep doing it now?🤔 Maybe we're just figuring out now they've been doing this all along😅

  • @macareuxmoine
    @macareuxmoine Рік тому

    I love every piece of information that lets us chip away at that monolith of human arrogance and entitlement versus nature.

  • @Ann-snowshoeingonEnceladus
    @Ann-snowshoeingonEnceladus Рік тому

    Beau, your interest in science is inspiring!

  • @LaharlOL
    @LaharlOL Рік тому +3

    That's wild! But then again, having the ingenuity to find something made by someone else and saying... Yeah, I can use that... is also genius