They have always been in the lower trim models. They come on the slt not just the Denali. And they’re pretty rare to find in a Denali as well most have a 5.3
I ended up getting a 6.6 gas 2500 HD LT Z71 for less than the 1500 6.2 would’ve cost. I love that the HD’s are always a V8, no start/stop BS and no active fuel management.
Alan Bowers also in Mexico my grandpa just bought one and I got to drive it last time I went a visit him there called Cheyenne z71 it was fully loaded like an Lt but with cloth seats.. To bad I can’t get one in USA 🇺🇸 ive had a regular cab z71 in last 3 gens 88-98 , 99-06,and 08-13... it sucks!! My other favorite was the tahoe z71 , but they killed it it’s real nice and all but no lockers not even g 80 rear locker what a shame
This was a great video. Love the thorough comparison between two very seemingly similar silverados, yet very different. These are the sort of videos people love when deciding what type of truck to buy. Especially in a time period where there are so many options and models. Great job Andre.
Vin numbers on air intake boxes tells me the crew cab was assembled in Mexico. The double cab assembled in USA. Labor is cheaper in Mexico and GM might profit more on them.
Nice catch! I didn't know GM had brought any of their truck production back to the USA. I'm so used to seeing 3's at the start of every Silverado VIN lol
That's interesting, I thought all the GMT T1 manufacturing was back in the US (Fort Wayne and Flint). I've a 2019 Silverado Custom Trail Boss Crew Cab, it was built in Fort Wayne.
I’d be curious to see a quality study on manufacturing in Mexico vs USA on these 1/2ton trucks. I bet it’s the same (my opinion). I’m all for protecting jobs here in the USA. Big reason I got a Colorado “Colorattle” built in Wenzville, MO 👍
Ok boomer. How could u spend 45k plus and not even get remote start or keyless entry. Got my 6.2 loaded trailboss for 55k. Only 7.5k more for loaded. I would never spend so much on a truck and not get up to date tech which will greatly add to resell value. Basic work trucks command dog shit prices.
I like everything about the Custom except the headlights being halogen. Makes the front end look"old". Not mention, those lights are exactly going to light up the road very well.
I've always loved extended cabs over crew cabs. Since I usually only use the backseat for cargo and rarely carry more than 2 passengers, I don't find all that extra weight and length to be optimal (especially because I love 8" bed length, and a crew cab with a 8" bed would be LONG).
I've got the custom standard bed. It has custom convenience package for $800 though. Includes remote start, theft alarm, rear window defogger, LED light in bed, and the EZ lift power lock and release tailgate. So you get allot of the extras anyway with that. Then I added the Silverado sport bar, which is a huge plus when loading kayaks or other long items.
Yeah me too. The larger cab is nice not just for extra passenger room but fir the driver as well. I'm sure there are some that argue against that but I'n sure they are under 6 ft and 180 lbs too. 😅 Oh man life would be easier if I was shorter.😑
james avery I disagree. Trucks are so multipurpose you can customize them just about however you need or want. I see no problem having all the bells and whistles for comfortability. I also see why some don’t think it’s necessary but when it comes down to it trucks shouldn’t be made one specific way or another there’s just too many people with too many different opinions to justify having one model.
If Wanted A Custom Trail Boss With A Crew Cab, I Would Get The 6.2L V8 Which Is My Favorite Engine,But I Loved The 6 Person Configuration On That Custom Trail Boss.
I feel like whenever in my life when I want to get a truck, the Custom Trail Boss with the 6.2L V8 is definitely one up for consideration. It's a cool, fast offroad machine on the lower-end of luxury which I'm starting to grow much more appreciation for. Plus I think it's just an interesting and cool feeling having the big-daddy 6.2L in a basic lower-end Silverado, considering it was only a few years ago that it was exclusive to the high-end LTZ and High Country trims. I wish it were still available for the 2022, but I think it went away because every trim the offer it in now has the electronic shifter transmission.
Just built and priced a Silverado Custom Trail Boss. V6, 6 speed, added SXM radio and trailer brake controller. After price discounts and cash allowances the price was $36,345. That's pretty competitive for a from the factory full size truck with a 2 inch lift, off road tires, Rancho shocks, and a G80 locker.
I've priced the same truck but without the Trail Boss package. Just 4x4. It has the custom convenience package with power tailgate and led bed lighting and remote start and a bunch of cool features and dealers are selling them for $32, 000 out the door.
@@brinleynicholson4588 I went back and priced a Custom 4X4, non Trail Boss. On that configuration you've got to pay extra for the tow pkg (hitch, wiring harness, etc.). I came up with $35,335. That makes the Trail Boss with its' off road goodies at a grand more an even better bargain. My guess is that finding a V6 Trail Boss on a dealers lot might be a challenge, whereas the non Trail Boss V6 would be easier to find. Throw in a dealer discount on top of incentives and yeah, good price.
@@ronaldk3904 the towing package was included with the custom value package and mine priced out to $35,600 some dollars. After the truck was configured I clicked on view inventory and local dealers had several discounted down to about 32,000. I have noticed the 5.3 is over $3,000 on top of the v6 so GM is discounting the six cylinder because I believe they are going to phase it out soon. And yes finding a v6 trail boss would probably be like a unicorn.
@@ronaldk3904 my price is a little higher but maybe I selected another option. I did make sure to get locking rear differential. Every truck should come standard with that.
I got the RST in the 6.2 and I put medium grade fuel in the truck as I did not really notice much of a difference with the high grade. This was a great review for the different options we have and I love that both trucks are the red.
When a halogen headlight goes bad you just pop the hood and replace it. I build those LED headlights everyday and they are stupid expensive and you have to replace the whole housing for one light.
I keep telling you guys I have an 2003 Chevy Astro van all-wheel drive with G80 rear Locker 10 inch torsion bar lift at the diff with all terrain tires and off-road shocks Best Buy I ever made for 700 Bucks have been fixing it for over a year and a half
I own a Custom 5.3. Only thing I hate about it is the storage. Only storage that it comes with is the glovebox. No storage in the center pull down which kinda pissed me off. Also power driver seat woulda been nice but not a deal killer. The electric brake issue is easily fixable by buying an $200 aftermarket Spectrum set up from Curt which I did. It’s easy to hook up and it looks better than factory. I’m happy with mine and I only paid $31,000
An lt trail boss with the double cab and the 6.5’ box would be a perfect truck imo, currently shopping around for a trail boss having a hard time deciding between the short and long box lt
I have nothing against the 4.3. But it appears that you dont understand that the current 4.3 is not the same engine that you are thinking of. It is a COMPLETELY new engine as of 2014. It is the same engine architecture as the new 5.3 and 6.2.
The front of the custom looks way better. The grill looks bigger and the lights look less squinty but I would want some of the features like the LT. If I was wanting a GM truck I'd get a GMC AT4.
I would go thr custom with the 5.3, add the trailer brake controller and possibly steering wheel controls. I like the similar gauges and nobs. I would like some sort of back up camera. My truck doesn't have any so any us an improvement. But I like that longer bed and don't really thing I would want to havd a truck that us a crew cab with the 6.5 ft bed. Mainly for parking reasons. And would want fogs on it. I prefer the cloth to the leather seats. The custom is definetly the way i would go.
I have the 5.3 at4. Would have loved the 6.2 but was not available. With the 10 speed it drives really smooth. I would definitely need the crew cab for my family. Space and all the safety features. I love my truck. Not a raptor or anything but it does everything well in my opinion. Also in homestead, fl I would hate to have to put premium gas all the time.
Great information , I would choose the LT. My 2020 RST Silverado has the 5.3, 8 speed transmission. For everyday driving , 355 horsepower does everything I've asked of it. I would spend the extra 11 grand, hey, you only live once.
Oh id take the Custom 6.2 also! I do notice a couple more differences. When in the LT, looking at the rear camera picture, sure you have slightly better resolution, with a close-up view, but no articulating single line that guides you to the ball? Plus on both the passenger side mirrors don’t need a spotter mirror, due to the fact they are both convex, in actuality big spot mirrors! I do think the small button at the instruments, that you use to scroll through the information center is very cheesy! Even in my Colorado WT, that controller in built into the turn signal stork. But I could live with out the extra bells an whistles, but I would definitely need a factory tow package!
Andre- I really appreciate this comparison. Seeing the breakdown of the Custom vs LT make me very happy that I purchased a Ram 1500 Tradesman. The Tradesman package has so many more features than the comparable Chevrolet Custom package. Plus, the 6.2L on 3.23s doesn't have the same get-up-and-go as the 5.7 with 3.92s. Heck, I have an air suspension- the same one as the Laramie package and a Class IV hitch- on a crew cab 6.4 ft bed.
@@larry7690 i have one. With air ride too. Honestly, if Im easy on the throttle, and set cruise at 73, im returning 19mpg avg hughway. It shifts very rarely. The 8 speed zf is a HUGE solidificstion if the weak point on these trucks. Given, I am not, so I get 17mpg or so highway and 15 mpg city. I like the Hemi sound.
@@percspot872 19 is real good for a 5.7 w/ 3.92 you must be on flatlands? I have not heard of anyone getting 19 w/3.92 ram defiantly has the best looks, ride and interior I do not know if this is common but one friend gave up on the truck because of the air ride deflating and they could not fix it
@@larry7690 i am a bit worries about it, but they will fix it, up until 100k. Then i plan kn converting it to a coilover. 19mpg was seen on a round trip from Va to Pennsylvania. Lots of mountains. The air ride lowers it to a height of the Rav 4 giving great aerodynamics for a 400hp brick
For an entire year, it might cost $100-200 to run a higher octane for the average driver Of course it’s more if you’re driving 50k miles a year But if you can’t afford the extra $200 , maybe these trucks are pushing your budget more then you can afford.
I have averaged about 18k miles a year for as long as I can remember, and while it may not be a whole lot more for the higher octane ($100-200 p/y as you say), there’s just not a ton of incentive for me to go with the 6.2 when I can do everything I want with a 5.3. I’ve seen plenty of new 4wd Silverados with the 5.3 for well under $40,000.
From what I understand high octane fuel is not REQUIRED, the computer will just tone down the engine if you run the cheaper stuff. Albeit that costs power, but I imagine you'd still be at about 400 horses and 445 ib-ft, still not bad numbers.
its nice to have the extra stuff in a truck but the only reason i would go with the LT is little things like the center counsel that don't open in the custom
The only thing I dislike the custom is the headlight... I'd take a custom with led headlights if possible. Halogen is just so outdated, and it's a night and day difference on visions.
I bought the LT. Because Hallogen head lamps suck on the custom.The LT gets LED head and Fog lamps. The LT also has a lot more interior features, and my LT is a daily driver that I spend 1.5 hours in a day commuting. The 5.3L with the 8 and 10speed is plenty quick too and it tows more.
They’d never sell them. They make the designs aimed at the younger generation. The younger generation eats tide pods. They wouldn’t know which pedal to push in a manual.
You guys originally said most guys would buy the 5.3 that’s why you purchased your original trail boss with one, and I think that is a true true statement. I personally like the 6.2 although GM wants you to run premium fuel in the 6.2.
Im one of the few, but Id love the double cab with the 5'8" bed, which they offered from 2006-2010. Pretty much the same wheel base as the supercab Raptor....the optimum wheelbase for offroading.
Outstanding review. If I could find that custom version just like that, double cab, red hot and that longer bed, I'd get it. To each their own, but for me, I can't stand that short bed. It even looks odd to me. LED's would be nice for sure, but not a deal breaker.
I think the better choice would be slightly fewer options on the LT, and then add the 6.2L. No way I would get the Custom truck. The interior (like that steering wheel), and the garbage head lights are things I could not live with.
If that custom had the convenience package it would have had the rear defroster,dampened auto tailgate and led’s in the bed . I think it’s like $1,200 dollars more. I would get that and the trailer brake and opt for the 5.3 engine.
When it comes time to replace your Trailboss at the end of the year, I think you should consider a Suburban or Tahoe to compare living with an SUV and a pickup, while also shaking down the new SUV. You would probably get the Z71 or Yukon AT4, though I really want to see you guys do long term testing with the 3.0 diesel, so it's one or the other, but maybe you guys to create your own Z71 type package with the diesel like the TFL pro Land Cruiser.
I'm a 4x Chevy truck owner, love my new hd. But Seats are garbage in these lol half tons across all 3. Titan xd has the softest seats out of all truck makers. I love the trail boss, reminds me of late 90s z71 Silverado. But again those seats, like sitting on a bucket and 2x4 with fabric tossed over it. Need to reevaluate that area. Great work Andre!!!
Having owned the 6.2L.....which was a POS( multiple lifter n pushrod failures among other things) And several Ford Ecoboosts I could never ever go back to the 5.3L. Everytime I drive one I am completely underwhelmed.....sorta like with the Chev interiors. GM hasn't updated the 5.3L in forever.....think it's time. My 6.2L didn't like regular so I had to run premium. Performance of the 6.2L is very nice when it wasn't in the shop. My next truck may have a V8 in it again,but it will not be one that requires premium gas....
Yeah, it's time to just step away from Chevy. They create these smokescreens, saying that they are a great company, but if you really delve deep into their motors, like you have experienced, you'll see that they are nothing but failures. I'd try something else until GM gets with the program.
After driving the ‘22 eco boost I can’t never go back to anything GM. They’re so slow and outdated. If you’re paying for a new truck it shouldn’t have the performance of a 10 year old truck
I was seriously considering the custom trail boss because I like the front grill but after watching this video and the poor interior I will be buying something else.
I had a '14 Silverado with the new 4.3 and it was amazing. Mpg and power. If you're not towing over 5k it's plenty. Also with the weight savings you can put an HD Fisher versus only the homeowner plow with the 5.3
What an odd comparison. You are paying $35k for a truck and it's capabilities. In this case the interior is secondary to the capabilities that this truck offers. If you want/need a better interior you pay for it by selecting a different trim.
I'd still buy the 5.3 cause off the larger cab. I was a large bed weirdo until I realized I'm not using it commercially. So you know all the larger bed got me on my previous trucks? A pain in the ass to park and more friends asking me to help move their shit. The 6.2 is nice but turn the traction control off on the 5.3 and you can still have allot of fun. My 5.3 is 350hp and its more than plenty that I've ever needed. It offroads well, it hauls a 30ft camper well, it hauls a 20ft boat well, it overlands well and because its legal in my province it hauls the boat and camper decently too. My only complain for all GM trucks is that there should be an option for larger fuel tanks. I can't even find an aftermarket offering. Why GM? Why!?!?
How much would you say your 20ft boat weighs? I ask because I’m coming out of a 2020 f250 powerstroke which was an absolute beast. Thinking about getting a new sierra 5.3 but not sure if the power is going to be way to low for what I’m use to + I tow my Alumacraft 20ft fishing boat. That is my major concern. Test drove one and the fuel consumption was fantastic compared to my wife’s 2021 Denali 6.2
Not often you guys get two trucks with the same transmission and Axle gears you should have raced them guessing the 6.2 would have wind the race about three truck lengths ahead
I know most people say the 6.2 is the best engine and yeah it’s the most powerful V8 in GM’s lineup but my granddad has a 2020 Z71 5.3/8 speed and it’s got plenty of power for most truck owners. I think people sleep on the 5.3 because the old ones were really slow but GM has really made it a great modern engine, and a good compromise between power and fuel economy. 383 lbs ft is not far off the 5.7 Hemi’s 390 ft lbs
I would prefer the LT optioned truck. The Custom optioned one doesn't seem like a very good deal to me. Very strange "cost cutting" GM did on the Custom. If I get a modern truck, I want some of the nice new tech. But each to their own.
Good review, glad you highlighted the lack of a center console. I actually had to research this to confirm that GM cut corners so badly. Decontenting luxury trim doesnt bother me, but removing any form of functionality- no height adjustable drivers seat, no lumbar support, non-adjustable seatbelts... Is counter-intuitive in a base truck.
I just had a new RAM truck, a Laramie Longhorn, on loan while my truck was being serviced for the day, and I'll tell you, that was a beautiful riding and feeling truck. Very comfortable, pretty fast, very good stereo system, the family was comfortable, it was a pleasure to drive.
Tsang Tsung kiddo nothing, rams are actually 2nd my bad, ford is the most problematic us brand in history, & they are so cheap, so thats why they are selling f series trucks a bit more than ram but my bad, rams are rated a 9.0 overall score whilst f-150s are rated a 9.1 overall score, & once again its a WAY cheaper truck than Rams so if you want to cout the cant fix death wobble genius as number 1 then be my guest
Giant v8? Arent the 5.3 and 6.2 the same size on the outside? I have the 12 Silverado LT crew cab 4x4 6.2 with the 6 speed. Big time sleeper. All it says is silverado LT no other stickers or badges. It's a beast with the tow package and 3.73 gears
I'm not a fan of the electronic push button tailgate. I got rid of mine for an old mechanical pull open. The electronic push button one was a hit or miss on seizing up at -40 F in the middle of winter and different dealerships couldn't find a fix. They kept trying to tell me it was ice on the tailgate. I call bullshit cause mechanical pull handle ones don't freeze closed.
It would be interesting to see a matchup between a trail boss 6.2L with 87 octane against an F150 FX4 3.5L on 87 octane. Then do the same head to head comparison with both engines running premium. Those big power numbers for the 6.2 probably drop off substantially and N/A vs forced induction....would love to see the real world differences.
You think a N/A engine would lose power with premium fuel? There’s no reason for that, it would be actually the same. A turbo charged engine would be more likely to lose power when going from premium to 87 octane
I have a 2020 custom TB with the electric dampening tail gate. That’s weird this custom doesn’t have it. I would definitely recommend the custom over the lt I got mine for 36k all the Lts were like 50k+ they’re ridiculously priced
Complaining about the fuel octane recommendation is silly. Lots of places in the country only have 91. That's just a technical way of saying you should use premium if you can. Hey at least they were kind enough to put that in the manual I've driven a few different rangers that should be running on premium because they definitely knock The Ford 3.0 was notorious.
Why does it need an update in power? I guess pulling 9k lbs in 2020 is more difficult than in 1986. I bet 80% of men that by truck could use the current V6 and would still not be underpowered.
It has a more powerful engine, but can't tow as much so what is the point? I would go with the 5.3L in this case. do a little tuning or get the cat-back exhaust to close that power gap a little more.
Chevy trucks seems like a game where you spot the areas where accountants cut costs whereas Ram trucks you spot the features where designers added an appealing attribute. I used to be a GM fan but they’ve lost their way.
This is true. GM used to be a player in the game, but they seem like they've just lost interest. To me, they haven't been relevant in the car game since the Grand National left, and in the truck game in 20+ years. They just need to clean house, and bring in people that actually give a damn. And stop being so damn cheap, then GM will gain the respect of the people, and start building actual quality products again.
i would like to see the drag race with these 2 both running regular gas just to see would the 5.3 run alittle closer i know it wouldn't win but might run closer
Great job Andre as always very thorough and helpful thank you
I applaud GM for finally putting the 6.2 in lower trim trucks. Definitely one I will be looking at.
Odd that there is no sport mode with the bigger engine.
Russell Kasprzyk less wiring to go wrong. Just manual shift it and hold a gear longer for basically sport mode.
They have always been in the lower trim models. They come on the slt not just the Denali. And they’re pretty rare to find in a Denali as well most have a 5.3
@@russellkasprzyk4934 my 2020 RST equipped with a 6.2 has sport mode
Me Too, Because It Ain't All About The Trims, It's All About The Engines.But I Hope The 6.2L V8 Wil Be On The Work Truck Right From GM.
I ended up getting a 6.6 gas 2500 HD LT Z71 for less than the 1500 6.2 would’ve cost. I love that the HD’s are always a V8, no start/stop BS and no active fuel management.
Chevrolet should Bring Back the single cab short bed z71 and add the 6.2L
Nah if it's a single cab those damn Takuaches are gonna slam it 😤 they have no respect for the Z71 badge
Yes!! I miss my reg shorty so bad!
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It’s a true shame, especially considering that very truck actually exists in other markets such as Saudi Arabia.
Alan Bowers also in Mexico my grandpa just bought one and I got to drive it last time I went a visit him there called Cheyenne z71 it was fully loaded like an Lt but with cloth seats.. To bad I can’t get one in USA 🇺🇸 ive had a regular cab z71 in last 3 gens 88-98 , 99-06,and 08-13... it sucks!!
My other favorite was the tahoe z71 , but they killed it it’s real nice and all but no lockers not even g 80 rear locker what a shame
Picking up a 6.2l Custom Trail Boss this spring, solid value for the engine/suspension/transmission combo
This was a great video. Love the thorough comparison between two very seemingly similar silverados, yet very different. These are the sort of videos people love when deciding what type of truck to buy. Especially in a time period where there are so many options and models. Great job Andre.
I wish the trail boss custom was available when I first got my truck. I ended up with a custom double cab. That 6.2 would’ve been killer.
Vin numbers on air intake boxes tells me the crew cab was assembled in Mexico. The double cab assembled in USA. Labor is cheaper in Mexico and GM might profit more on them.
Nice catch! I didn't know GM had brought any of their truck production back to the USA. I'm so used to seeing 3's at the start of every Silverado VIN lol
That's interesting, I thought all the GMT T1 manufacturing was back in the US (Fort Wayne and Flint). I've a 2019 Silverado Custom Trail Boss Crew Cab, it was built in Fort Wayne.
The Anti-Nowhere Lane my Sierra and Silverado were both made in Fort Wayne. Double and crew cab.
@@Otownbassin Interesting. Maybe it's regional? I live in AZ so were probably easier to ship to from Mexico
I’d be curious to see a quality study on manufacturing in Mexico vs USA on these 1/2ton trucks. I bet it’s the same (my opinion). I’m all for protecting jobs here in the USA. Big reason I got a Colorado “Colorattle” built in Wenzville, MO 👍
I can't see spending $11K more for a few functions. I like old school with less gadgets any day of the week.
Same. Other than power windows and old school cruise control I don't want any digital nannies.
I agree with you 100%👍
a lot of people don’t work full time to drive a Fn base model, quad cab big whoop 6.2l still shuts off at 88
Big Beef89 When you drive a 6.2L with the 10 speed you’ll change your mind
Ok boomer. How could u spend 45k plus and not even get remote start or keyless entry. Got my 6.2 loaded trailboss for 55k. Only 7.5k more for loaded. I would never spend so much on a truck and not get up to date tech which will greatly add to resell value. Basic work trucks command dog shit prices.
My truck sits outside and I leave for work at 530am. It’s either covered in dew or frost. Not having a rear defogger is a no go lol
I like everything about the Custom except the headlights being halogen. Makes the front end look"old". Not mention, those lights are exactly going to light up the road very well.
I've always loved extended cabs over crew cabs. Since I usually only use the backseat for cargo and rarely carry more than 2 passengers, I don't find all that extra weight and length to be optimal (especially because I love 8" bed length, and a crew cab with a 8" bed would be LONG).
I've got the custom standard bed. It has custom convenience package for $800 though. Includes remote start, theft alarm, rear window defogger, LED light in bed, and the EZ lift power lock and release tailgate. So you get allot of the extras anyway with that. Then I added the Silverado sport bar, which is a huge plus when loading kayaks or other long items.
Great video, I've been researching the Trail Boss and I am going with the custom model.
I think I’d still take my 5.3 LT Trail Boss over the 6.2 Custom. All the additional creature features are well worth it on long road trips.
Yeah me too. The larger cab is nice not just for extra passenger room but fir the driver as well. I'm sure there are some that argue against that but I'n sure they are under 6 ft and 180 lbs too. 😅 Oh man life would be easier if I was shorter.😑
5.3 LT is awesome. Maybe will upgrade to 6.3 once lease is up who knows. Seems like plenty of power for my needs though.
james avery I disagree. Trucks are so multipurpose you can customize them just about however you need or want. I see no problem having all the bells and whistles for comfortability. I also see why some don’t think it’s necessary but when it comes down to it trucks shouldn’t be made one specific way or another there’s just too many people with too many different opinions to justify having one model.
If Wanted A Custom Trail Boss With A Crew Cab, I Would Get The 6.2L V8 Which Is My Favorite Engine,But I Loved The 6 Person Configuration On That Custom Trail Boss.
I'd definitely go with the 6.2L custom version!
I feel like whenever in my life when I want to get a truck, the Custom Trail Boss with the 6.2L V8 is definitely one up for consideration. It's a cool, fast offroad machine on the lower-end of luxury which I'm starting to grow much more appreciation for.
Plus I think it's just an interesting and cool feeling having the big-daddy 6.2L in a basic lower-end Silverado, considering it was only a few years ago that it was exclusive to the high-end LTZ and High Country trims. I wish it were still available for the 2022, but I think it went away because every trim the offer it in now has the electronic shifter transmission.
Just built and priced a Silverado Custom Trail Boss. V6, 6 speed, added SXM radio and trailer brake controller. After price discounts and cash allowances the price was $36,345. That's pretty competitive for a from the factory full size truck with a 2 inch lift, off road tires, Rancho shocks, and a G80 locker.
I've priced the same truck but without the Trail Boss package. Just 4x4. It has the custom convenience package with power tailgate and led bed lighting and remote start and a bunch of cool features and dealers are selling them for $32, 000 out the door.
That 4.3 v6 is a great engine. Plenty of power of you're not towing over 5 - 6 k.
@@brinleynicholson4588 I went back and priced a Custom 4X4, non Trail Boss. On that configuration you've got to pay extra for the tow pkg (hitch, wiring harness, etc.). I came up with $35,335. That makes the Trail Boss with its' off road goodies at a grand more an even better bargain. My guess is that finding a V6 Trail Boss on a dealers lot might be a challenge, whereas the non Trail Boss V6 would be easier to find. Throw in a dealer discount on top of incentives and yeah, good price.
@@ronaldk3904 the towing package was included with the custom value package and mine priced out to $35,600 some dollars. After the truck was configured I clicked on view inventory and local dealers had several discounted down to about 32,000. I have noticed the 5.3 is over $3,000 on top of the v6 so GM is discounting the six cylinder because I believe they are going to phase it out soon. And yes finding a v6 trail boss would probably be like a unicorn.
@@ronaldk3904 my price is a little higher but maybe I selected another option. I did make sure to get locking rear differential. Every truck should come standard with that.
I got the RST in the 6.2 and I put medium grade fuel in the truck as I did not really notice much of a difference with the high grade. This was a great review for the different options we have and I love that both trucks are the red.
Interesting walk thru. Thanks. There are many differences to think about. Both are very expensive,
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@@howarja Well said.
Can’t beat that 6.2.....
When a halogen headlight goes bad you just pop the hood and replace it. I build those LED headlights everyday and they are stupid expensive and you have to replace the whole housing for one light.
My thoughts exactly
I keep telling you guys I have an 2003 Chevy Astro van all-wheel drive with G80 rear Locker 10 inch torsion bar lift at the diff with all terrain tires and off-road shocks Best Buy I ever made for 700 Bucks have been fixing it for over a year and a half
THE WOFFORDS , Bingo, a Great rig, bought mine totaled ! Amazing room and comfort, GM so lost now......
I have the 5.3 Trail Bo’s LT, and love it.
I own a Custom 5.3. Only thing I hate about it is the storage. Only storage that it comes with is the glovebox. No storage in the center pull down which kinda pissed me off. Also power driver seat woulda been nice but not a deal killer. The electric brake issue is easily fixable by buying an $200 aftermarket Spectrum set up from Curt which I did. It’s easy to hook up and it looks better than factory. I’m happy with mine and I only paid $31,000
Get this! The console storage is now a $20. option! Really! If the dealer doesn't check that box on the order, customer goes without.
An lt trail boss with the double cab and the 6.5’ box would be a perfect truck imo, currently shopping around for a trail boss having a hard time deciding between the short and long box lt
Give me a double cab WT with 4x4 and 4.3 v6. Has a usable bed and a proven engine without the insane price tag. Truck will run forever 👍
Kyle G you’re right ! Have had several Astro van 4.3 s run forever. Good so I bought an old 91 single cab stepside with 200k. Still runs GR8!!!
Yea my grandpa got his 4.3 to 350k and was still running strong
Make sure he actually has a low range transfer case lol. Shouldn't even be able to get 4x4 without it
I have nothing against the 4.3. But it appears that you dont understand that the current 4.3 is not the same engine that you are thinking of. It is a COMPLETELY new engine as of 2014. It is the same engine architecture as the new 5.3 and 6.2.
@@ShyaMiss Yup exactly, none of these new 4.3s will ever get near the reliability of a 4.3 TBI motor from the late 80s
The front of the custom looks way better. The grill looks bigger and the lights look less squinty but I would want some of the features like the LT. If I was wanting a GM truck I'd get a GMC AT4.
Plenty of options on the custom for me but agreed on the grill.
I would go thr custom with the 5.3, add the trailer brake controller and possibly steering wheel controls. I like the similar gauges and nobs. I would like some sort of back up camera. My truck doesn't have any so any us an improvement. But I like that longer bed and don't really thing I would want to havd a truck that us a crew cab with the 6.5 ft bed. Mainly for parking reasons. And would want fogs on it. I prefer the cloth to the leather seats. The custom is definetly the way i would go.
I have the 5.3 at4. Would have loved the 6.2 but was not available. With the 10 speed it drives really smooth. I would definitely need the crew cab for my family. Space and all the safety features. I love my truck. Not a raptor or anything but it does everything well in my opinion. Also in homestead, fl I would hate to have to put premium gas all the time.
OLD SCHOOL! My 2000 Silverado has back-up screens mounted outside the doors...
i currently drive a lifted 2016 Z71 Colorado and love it but i can’t wait to get a trail boss one day!
Great information , I would choose the LT. My 2020 RST Silverado has the 5.3, 8 speed transmission. For everyday driving , 355 horsepower does everything I've asked of it. I would spend the extra 11 grand, hey, you only live once.
It never feels slow? Even highway acceleration getting on and passing? Been eying an RST 5.3 myself.
Maybe it's just me, but 355 horsepower feels sufficient
Ive got the 21 custom TB 5.3 with the steering mounted controls and trailer brake system. The only thing i regret not getting in the running boards😄
Oh id take the Custom 6.2 also! I do notice a couple more differences. When in the LT, looking at the rear camera picture, sure you have slightly better resolution, with a close-up view, but no articulating single line that guides you to the ball? Plus on both the passenger side mirrors don’t need a spotter mirror, due to the fact they are both convex, in actuality big spot mirrors! I do think the small button at the instruments, that you use to scroll through the information center is very cheesy! Even in my Colorado WT, that controller in built into the turn signal stork. But I could live with out the extra bells an whistles, but I would definitely need a factory tow package!
I just bought a 2021 custom with the 5.3 it’s very nice
Cup of coffee and Andre in the morning! Doesn’t get better than that! I much prefer the double cab. Bigger bed
Same I find crew cab beds have more limited uses
Damn I didn't know they expanded that 6-two's avaliability that far!
Andre- I really appreciate this comparison. Seeing the breakdown of the Custom vs LT make me very happy that I purchased a Ram 1500 Tradesman. The Tradesman package has so many more features than the comparable Chevrolet Custom package. Plus, the 6.2L on 3.23s doesn't have the same get-up-and-go as the 5.7 with 3.92s. Heck, I have an air suspension- the same one as the Laramie package and a Class IV hitch- on a crew cab 6.4 ft bed.
good luck trying to find a tradesman w/3.92s plus turns poor fuel economy into a gas hog
@@larry7690 i have one. With air ride too. Honestly, if Im easy on the throttle, and set cruise at 73, im returning 19mpg avg hughway. It shifts very rarely. The 8 speed zf is a HUGE solidificstion if the weak point on these trucks. Given, I am not, so I get 17mpg or so highway and 15 mpg city. I like the Hemi sound.
@@percspot872 19 is real good for a 5.7 w/ 3.92 you must be on flatlands? I have not heard of anyone getting 19 w/3.92 ram defiantly has the best looks, ride and interior I do not know if this is common but one friend gave up on the truck because of the air ride deflating and they could not fix it
@@larry7690 i am a bit worries about it, but they will fix it, up until 100k. Then i plan kn converting it to a coilover. 19mpg was seen on a round trip from Va to Pennsylvania. Lots of mountains. The air ride lowers it to a height of the Rav 4 giving great aerodynamics for a 400hp brick
Like the cost-saving of the custom, but the high octane requirement is a deal-killer.
If u get zero ethonal u get really good gas mileage with the high octane so it’s not a deal breaker
That's too bad because it is the engine to get so might as well get another brand.
For an entire year, it might cost $100-200 to run a higher octane for the average driver Of course it’s more if you’re driving 50k miles a year But if you can’t afford the extra $200 , maybe these trucks are pushing your budget more then you can afford.
I have averaged about 18k miles a year for as long as I can remember, and while it may not be a whole lot more for the higher octane ($100-200 p/y as you say), there’s just not a ton of incentive for me to go with the 6.2 when I can do everything I want with a 5.3. I’ve seen plenty of new 4wd Silverados with the 5.3 for well under $40,000.
From what I understand high octane fuel is not REQUIRED, the computer will just tone down the engine if you run the cheaper stuff. Albeit that costs power, but I imagine you'd still be at about 400 horses and 445 ib-ft, still not bad numbers.
They need to bring the regular cab into the US, oh wait its made here just shipped to Saudi Arabia >_
Just like all their weapons....Made in the USA 🇺🇸
Tested all the trucks (Tundra, F150, Ram) and ended up choosing the Trail Boss and have been happy with my choice.
You should test a tank of 87 and a tank of 93 or (91 in Colorado's case) see if you get any difference in mpg or 0-60
its nice to have the extra stuff in a truck but the only reason i would go with the LT is little things like the center counsel that don't open in the custom
You just convinced me to get the TB Custom w/6.2L. You can leave those other features on the LT for soccer moms. 😏
The only thing I dislike the custom is the headlight... I'd take a custom with led headlights if possible. Halogen is just so outdated, and it's a night and day difference on visions.
To me LED headlights are a must. The more I see, the better. Halogen just are too dim.
I bought the LT. Because Hallogen head lamps suck on the custom.The LT gets LED head and Fog lamps. The LT also has a lot more interior features, and my LT is a daily driver that I spend 1.5 hours in a day commuting. The 5.3L with the 8 and 10speed is plenty quick too and it tows more.
The crew cab standard bed has a longer wheel base
I would love to see the 6.2 in a regular cab, short bed and a manual transmission.
They’d never sell them. They make the designs aimed at the younger generation. The younger generation eats tide pods. They wouldn’t know which pedal to push in a manual.
You guys originally said most guys would buy the 5.3 that’s why you purchased your original trail boss with one, and I think that is a true true statement. I personally like the 6.2 although GM wants you to run premium fuel in the 6.2.
Im one of the few, but Id love the double cab with the 5'8" bed, which they offered from 2006-2010. Pretty much the same wheel base as the supercab Raptor....the optimum wheelbase for offroading.
The 6.2L is also available with an Engine Performance Package that bumps power to 635hp - 670tq.
Outstanding review. If I could find that custom version just like that, double cab, red hot and that longer bed, I'd get it. To each their own, but for me, I can't stand that short bed. It even looks odd to me. LED's would be nice for sure, but not a deal breaker.
With $11k you could turn the custom into the ultimate trail boss. Almost like a small IFS power wagon dare I say it.
Thorough and comprehensive.
I think the better choice would be slightly fewer options on the LT, and then add the 6.2L. No way I would get the Custom truck. The interior (like that steering wheel), and the garbage head lights are things I could not live with.
If that custom had the convenience package it would have had the rear defroster,dampened auto tailgate and led’s in the bed . I think it’s like $1,200 dollars more. I would get that and the trailer brake and opt for the 5.3 engine.
You are correct and it also has remote start and it's on discount for $800 right now through GM.
The LT also has active shutters in the grill.
I enjoyed the music at the beginning of the video
Definitely prefer the double headlamps over the led strips bookending the grille on the lt.
14:06 Andre I've never seen anyone use a sausage as a pointer to read with, that's kinda weird man.
When it comes time to replace your Trailboss at the end of the year, I think you should consider a Suburban or Tahoe to compare living with an SUV and a pickup, while also shaking down the new SUV. You would probably get the Z71 or Yukon AT4, though I really want to see you guys do long term testing with the 3.0 diesel, so it's one or the other, but maybe you guys to create your own Z71 type package with the diesel like the TFL pro Land Cruiser.
I'm a 4x Chevy truck owner, love my new hd. But Seats are garbage in these lol half tons across all 3. Titan xd has the softest seats out of all truck makers. I love the trail boss, reminds me of late 90s z71 Silverado. But again those seats, like sitting on a bucket and 2x4 with fabric tossed over it. Need to reevaluate that area. Great work Andre!!!
I’ve got a 2020 custom trail boss 5.3 and it has the bed lights , dampened tailgate, and also has rear defroster
Mine as well, just got it the past weekend
James bond hope you enjoy yours as much as I am mine
Having owned the 6.2L.....which was a POS( multiple lifter n pushrod failures among other things)
And several Ford Ecoboosts I could never ever go back to the 5.3L.
Everytime I drive one I am completely underwhelmed.....sorta like with the Chev interiors.
GM hasn't updated the 5.3L in forever.....think it's time.
My 6.2L didn't like regular so I had to run premium.
Performance of the 6.2L is very nice when it wasn't in the shop.
My next truck may have a V8 in it again,but it will not be one that requires premium gas....
Try a 5.3 with the 10 speed. Gearing makes a huge difference.
Yeah, it's time to just step away from Chevy. They create these smokescreens, saying that they are a great company, but if you really delve deep into their motors, like you have experienced, you'll see that they are nothing but failures. I'd try something else until GM gets with the program.
@@nydieselinfl my 2014 F150 5.0L had endless problems. No issues on my 5.3.
You don’t have to buy a trail boss there are plenty of different trim levels for you
After driving the ‘22 eco boost I can’t never go back to anything GM. They’re so slow and outdated. If you’re paying for a new truck it shouldn’t have the performance of a 10 year old truck
I was seriously considering the custom trail boss because I like the front grill but after watching this video and the poor interior I will be buying something else.
There are plenty of different trim levels that you could look at
You could still spend a little to get the better interior. If the smaller cab works for you it does save around 3-4k.
Yes you did a mistake not getting the 6.2 😎
The idea wass to get the truck most pepole buy and thats the 5.3.
I like the custom truck. I would get it with the 4.3. I have owned a truck with the 4.3 it had enough power. I don't tow over a 5k trailer.
I got the 5.3 and it towes 8-9k fine. I towed both a camper trailer and boat with it at the same time. Its legal were I live.
@@loganholmberg2295 I had 5.3 and it worked fine but I don't need the towing capacity so I wouldn't buy it again.
I had a '14 Silverado with the new 4.3 and it was amazing. Mpg and power. If you're not towing over 5k it's plenty. Also with the weight savings you can put an HD Fisher versus only the homeowner plow with the 5.3
So GM wants customers to pay $35k+ for a “custom” that can’t even keep up with the interior features of a $18k Kia? Cmon GM.
Rip chevy since 2006
The greatest irony is the Kia’s are far more American made than the GM’s these days too.
You’re not paying 35k for an interior, you’re paying for a truck. If a Kia fits your needs then you’re looking at the wrong video
What an odd comparison. You are paying $35k for a truck and it's capabilities. In this case the interior is secondary to the capabilities that this truck offers. If you want/need a better interior you pay for it by selecting a different trim.
blang38 I agree if you buy a truck for the interior then you shouldn’t buy a truck
Desperately need to install a good intake and borla atak on your truck
The cheaper one looks best. But I’d want a bowtie
I'd still buy the 5.3 cause off the larger cab. I was a large bed weirdo until I realized I'm not using it commercially. So you know all the larger bed got me on my previous trucks? A pain in the ass to park and more friends asking me to help move their shit. The 6.2 is nice but turn the traction control off on the 5.3 and you can still have allot of fun. My 5.3 is 350hp and its more than plenty that I've ever needed. It offroads well, it hauls a 30ft camper well, it hauls a 20ft boat well, it overlands well and because its legal in my province it hauls the boat and camper decently too. My only complain for all GM trucks is that there should be an option for larger fuel tanks. I can't even find an aftermarket offering. Why GM? Why!?!?
How much would you say your 20ft boat weighs? I ask because I’m coming out of a 2020 f250 powerstroke which was an absolute beast. Thinking about getting a new sierra 5.3 but not sure if the power is going to be way to low for what I’m use to + I tow my Alumacraft 20ft fishing boat. That is my major concern. Test drove one and the fuel consumption was fantastic compared to my wife’s 2021 Denali 6.2
Not often you guys get two trucks with the same transmission and Axle gears you should have raced them guessing the 6.2 would have wind the race about three truck lengths ahead
I know most people say the 6.2 is the best engine and yeah it’s the most powerful V8 in GM’s lineup but my granddad has a 2020 Z71 5.3/8 speed and it’s got plenty of power for most truck owners. I think people sleep on the 5.3 because the old ones were really slow but GM has really made it a great modern engine, and a good compromise between power and fuel economy. 383 lbs ft is not far off the 5.7 Hemi’s 390 ft lbs
The 5.7 hemi has 395 hp and 410 tq definitely more than 355 Hp and 383 tq
I'd love to see you guys do an MPG test on that 6.2 Custom.
I have one. Average is 17mpg
I would prefer the LT optioned truck. The Custom optioned one doesn't seem like a very good deal to me. Very strange "cost cutting" GM did on the Custom. If I get a modern truck, I want some of the nice new tech. But each to their own.
Some people don’t care, I’ve had 3 lt trailbosses including a loaded 3lt all 5.3, and a custom 6.2 trailbosses. I like them all
Good review, glad you highlighted the lack of a center console. I actually had to research this to confirm that GM cut corners so badly. Decontenting luxury trim doesnt bother me, but removing any form of functionality- no height adjustable drivers seat, no lumbar support, non-adjustable seatbelts... Is counter-intuitive in a base truck.
Thank goodness there are RAM Trucks !!
I'm a gm guy and I agree with you 100%.
I just had a new RAM truck, a Laramie Longhorn, on loan while my truck was being serviced for the day, and I'll tell you, that was a beautiful riding and feeling truck. Very comfortable, pretty fast, very good stereo system, the family was comfortable, it was a pleasure to drive.
I love dodge& rams, but im not bias about othe companies but ram has the best selling trucks& i see why because gm & ford are just highly lacking
Tsang Tsung kiddo nothing, rams are actually 2nd my bad, ford is the most problematic us brand in history, & they are so cheap, so thats why they are selling f series trucks a bit more than ram but my bad, rams are rated a 9.0 overall score whilst f-150s are rated a 9.1 overall score, & once again its a WAY cheaper truck than Rams so if you want to cout the cant fix death wobble genius as number 1 then be my guest
Ford f150s are the best selling trucks so my bad
That custom is THE exact same congratulations I would want it to the T
GM really needs to bring their interiors into this century.
Giant v8? Arent the 5.3 and 6.2 the same size on the outside? I have the 12 Silverado LT crew cab 4x4 6.2 with the 6 speed. Big time sleeper. All it says is silverado LT no other stickers or badges. It's a beast with the tow package and 3.73 gears
I wish mine had the towing package. 1600 payload is just too small. Wonder if the tow package can be added as aftermarket
I'm not a fan of the electronic push button tailgate. I got rid of mine for an old mechanical pull open.
The electronic push button one was a hit or miss on seizing up at -40 F in the middle of winter and different dealerships couldn't find a fix. They kept trying to tell me it was ice on the tailgate. I call bullshit cause mechanical pull handle ones don't freeze closed.
It would be interesting to see a matchup between a trail boss 6.2L with 87 octane against an F150 FX4 3.5L on 87 octane. Then do the same head to head comparison with both engines running premium. Those big power numbers for the 6.2 probably drop off substantially and N/A vs forced induction....would love to see the real world differences.
You think a N/A engine would lose power with premium fuel? There’s no reason for that, it would be actually the same. A turbo charged engine would be more likely to lose power when going from premium to 87 octane
I have a 2020 custom TB with the electric dampening tail gate. That’s weird this custom doesn’t have it. I would definitely recommend the custom over the lt I got mine for 36k all the Lts were like 50k+ they’re ridiculously priced
You should find an older truck with extended cab measure that door see if it is the same
Complaining about the fuel octane recommendation is silly. Lots of places in the country only have 91. That's just a technical way of saying you should use premium if you can. Hey at least they were kind enough to put that in the manual I've driven a few different rangers that should be running on premium because they definitely knock The Ford 3.0 was notorious.
Great review thanks for sharing.
Um, 355HP/383 FT-LB from 327 CI is pretty powerful.
yeah, maybe back in 1986
Tammie Andrzejczuk what truck from ‘86 had those numbers?
Tammie Andrzejczuk lol in 86 they had no dam power.
It's ok, but it needs an update in power.
Why does it need an update in power? I guess pulling 9k lbs in 2020 is more difficult than in 1986. I bet 80% of men that by truck could use the current V6 and would still not be underpowered.
I like the bigger headlights on the other one...Both trucks are Awesome.. Thank you Andre!!😃
Why not just buy the LT CC with the 6.2 and the 6 1/2 ft box?
If its Just for the longer bed you could of take the LT and the standard bed which would be the same as the double cab (thats what i did)
It's a sad day when a $48,000 pick up is considered cheap😒
That LT Trailboss should be the price of the Custom.
Very helpful...Thank you!
It has a more powerful engine, but can't tow as much so what is the point? I would go with the 5.3L in this case. do a little tuning or get the cat-back exhaust to close that power gap a little more.
Chevy trucks seems like a game where you spot the areas where accountants cut costs whereas Ram trucks you spot the features where designers added an appealing attribute. I used to be a GM fan but they’ve lost their way.
This is true. GM used to be a player in the game, but they seem like they've just lost interest. To me, they haven't been relevant in the car game since the Grand National left, and in the truck game in 20+ years. They just need to clean house, and bring in people that actually give a damn. And stop being so damn cheap, then GM will gain the respect of the people, and start building actual quality products again.
@@nydieselinfl Dilly dilly!!!!
the custom is a work truck, if you a shorter that 6 foot the drivers seat will be too low. The seat is not height adjustable.
I like the custom front end better.plus 6.2
i would like to see the drag race with these 2 both running regular gas just to see would the 5.3 run alittle closer i know it wouldn't win but might run closer