“ISKCON Gurus are like 13 yrs old Mothers” Argument Debunked
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INITIATIONS AFTER 1977:
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All glories to Srila Prabhupada 🙇
Wow really good answer … ❤ iskcon people should understand this matter very deeply .
Sadguru was insulting Krishna with bad words like he did throw tantrum in front of mata Yashoda. He even called Krishna proud. U are right @ISKM TV. He is the Idiot 1.
@My teacher said that he is smart but that's a myth. As per the Geetha, those who scold Krishna are idiots.
Its painfully obvious that, " the great sinister movement within our society " is running Iskcon and has been ever since Srila Prabhupada departed in 1977. Demons disguised as devotees. We all know that Krishna will have the last laugh, as always.
Their days as false gurus in Iskcon are numbered. 🙏
seems ISKCON was infiltrated by outside political groups from the West
Amazing arguments prabhu ! Your conclusions can destroy the doubts in the minds of many (like myself), Hare Krsna !
Wow!
Wonderful!
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Jaya Śrila Prabhupāda 🙏
Sir, the work you are doing is commendable! I really appreciate your efforts. Please keep the work going. Never felt so much connected than before.
Spritual awakening is the need of the hour!
Hari Bol!
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Exactly, full support from Give Gita (India ) ,dandwat pranam to all devotees 🙇🙇
My nature is a bit different; I wouldn't say it the way you did, but nonetheless, I agree with what you say. This relationship between a guru and a disciple is serious business. I have been associated with Iskcon for well over 25 years. I haven't accepted innation because I know I am not the proper disciple, and gurus must do the same. Do I want to be a disciple? It is my highest purpose in this life.
Exactly correct prabhu.
One will be guru , if Prabhupada declares officially. Without any confirmation from guru than how? one can be a guru in parampara.
Please, devotees who are declaring them selves as guru ,please observe this which is very very important . You to know that you are doing wrong, dont continue such type of activities and make prabhupad's mission spoil.
You will be happy but you are directly making prabhupad's mission bad in front of bogus people who are aganist this bhakti Movement
Jai Jagatguru Srila Prabhupada 🙇🏻♂️🙏🙏
Jai Bhagavan Shree Krishna ❤️
jokers 13 year old mothers !!!!
Debate with avhaan call of dharma
He constantly targeting prabhupad philosophies
If you are able to defeat thm
Then i will be able to believe that you are true followers of srila bvs Prabhupada 🙇🏻
Who is that?
@@DīnaKṛṣṇaDāsa a mayavadi vaishnavapradhi and prabhupad apradhi
@@krsnaconscious68ISKCON gurus are the biggest rascals at the moment, what about them? Exposing them doesn't make you believe we're bona fide disciples of Śrīla Prabhupāda or what? But some mayavadi matters for you more than this. Huh? Where's the logic?
@@DīnaKṛṣṇaDāsa it is contradictory
Then how come preaching in iskcon is increasing day by day
Why there are lots of temple coming and inaugurating?
@@krsnaconscious68 I see, you know nothing about what's going on in ISKCON, yet giving your own opinion here as if you know something. Please watch this
*Prabhupāda's Ṛtvik System As It Is - ISKCON Leaders Exposed (Hindi Subs)*
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@tomas check Bhagvad Geetha chapter 12. Symptoms of Krishna's dearness like Meera Bai.
Jai Prabhupada ❤. Nice work why don't you open your organisation in India
Hare Krishna Prabhu🙏.
ISKM Preaching Center in PONDICHERRY🙏❤.
ISKM has allready many centers in India. Come to Pondicherry!
problem with this rascal is that he cannot comprehend the even a 13 year old will become mature one day
But she is dependant on her mother till that day
I can comprehend perfectly. But until maturity, they have to stop this cheating and be humble devotees. Why are they becoming gurus when they are not qualified? You still can't get it? Wake up, brother!
@yes Prabhuji I am watching in this days this person @tukaramdas1830 is very aggressive towards Srila Prabhupada Ritivak system. But I found that his all logics are totally based on sentiments and 0 philosophy. And he is just using bad words towards Real followers of Srila Prabhupada and his etiquette is not of vishnava. And just committing vishnava aparadha towards Ritivak followers (Ritivak followers means Srila Prabhupada real followers)
Than when he will become mature and when srila Prabhupada Orders he can become Diksha guru but not now.
Problem is some mentally retarted fellows never mature, and still they imitate mature @tukaram
How many offense you will made dear demon?
Are you posessed, haunted or what nonsense you talk about?
Hare Krishna 🙏🏽 prabhu, you are incredibly explaining actual truth to the fools .
This man is dosh darshan personified.
@AGTSP-is4sethe way this prabhu is speaking I don't know this is not what srila Prabhupada emphasized.
Speak about islam
What do you mean? If its the true reality of Islam and all other religions, it's that the supreme lord Sri Krsna has sent his devotees like Prophet Muhhamed (PBUH) and Lord Jesus Christ to deliver the fallen population. They preach according to the situation and they may change a few religious principles so that the general populace will understand and follow the order of god. The final conclusion of all religions is to surrender unto God and become his servant and love him. The names presented may be different like Allah or Christ as the lord has unlimited names, and they indicate the same personality of godhead who is worshippable by all. Hare Krsna !
@Maitreyaaaa And what does it have anything to do with the video?
There are already 3 videos where Tattvavita Prabhu has discussed the conversation between Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvati Thakura and a Maulvi
How do you recognise a pure devotee? How can you even say someone is not a pure devotee? What if someone is a pure devotee but you don't recognise him?
That part where it is said that a guru cannot liberate his disciple is certainly weird. What is the use of such guru?!
How do you recognise a bonafide diksa guru? Its very simple actually, there is 2 things.
Unbonafide imitator guru cannot liberate anyone. Its very simple
Pure devotee is recognized by the symptomps he exhibits. One is that he never disobeys the order of his spiritual master
Have you read Prabhupadas books yet?
This may have been said out of humility and respect for Srila Prabhupada as a pure devotee never thinks himself to be perfect and always feels dependent on his guru.
There is 0 humility in trying surpass Srila Prabhupadas order by self apointting fake diksa gurus
Even those gurus know from within that they are not eligible and are simply cheaters.
Even from a common man's view the ritvik system makes sense prabhu, say you want to have an upanayanam or vivaha yajna done, you call a brahmana priest, a ritvik and he does the ceremony, gets a dakshina and his job is over there. He doesn't claim to be like Shankaracharya or Ramanujacharya or Madhvacharya etc., he just acts on their behalf for a specific task, and that's his limited role. It's as simple as that if I'm right in my understanding.
It is simple for the simple, but it is very hard for the crooked.
Please watch this also
*Prabhupāda's Ṛtvik System As It Is - ISKCON Leaders Exposed (Hindi Subs)*
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It is simple. But we are talking about spiritual initiation here. Never ever in Vedic history rithvik initiation is not emphasized anywhere. If you see srila Prabhupada took initiation from Srila Bhaltisiddanta sarawati thakur Prabhupada. He could have called a Rithvik and done the initiation right but no. Sri Chaitanya mahaprabhu took initiation from Sri isvara Puri. The verses referred in the video are right but not to the rithvik context.
@@Student-v2h Srila Prabhupada himself mentions ritvik in many places. I am born in a Shankara sampradaya, i have seen priests perform upanyanam, vivaha for others, even in the Ramanujacharya and Madhvacharya sampradayas, but this simple fact is missed out.
@@The92Abhi marriage and other things requires a priest but spiritual initiation requires a living guru and all sampradayas follow this. I don't understand why you people comparing initiation to other ritualistic activities.
@@Student-v2h what do you think happens during initiation? Does Adi Shankaracharya or Ramanujacharya or Madhvacharya appear to perform the ceremony? Are they dead and gone? What kind of spiritual understanding is it to think a person is dead and gone and i need a "living guru"? Why not go one step further and say i need a "living God", not stone statues?
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jai ho srila prabhupada ki jai
Meanwhile prabhupad in his lectures (may 1971)-
Even a grihastha bhramchari or sanyasi has a right to accept disciple but this is not the etiquette he can do that when his guru maharaj is not present physically..
First of all give proper full reference so its more beliavable. Then read this reference from NOD regarding this topic:
Nectar of Instruction 5, Purport
One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikārī. A neophyte Vaiṣṇava or a Vaiṣṇava situated on the intermediate platform can also accept disciples, but such disciples must be on the same platform, and it should be understood that they cannot advance very well toward the ultimate goal of life under his insufficient guidance. Therefore a disciple should be careful to accept an uttama-adhikārī as a spiritual master.
Hare Krishna Prabhu ji, Before stating all this, using words like "unqualified" and "rascal" to those who were practicing bhakti for more than 50 years should not be done. it may lead to Vaishnava Aparadha.
How so if they are unqualified and disobeying then what have they done in 50 years? If one has 50 years practiced he should do properly right? Whats the use of doing 50 years if one acts like a rascal and cheats others? Please Prabhu think
You mad people actually you should leave doing this drama don't you know a simple thing that one shouldn't do vaishnav apradh by doing ninda
You defending offenders is the worst kind of Vaishnava apradh, shame on such actions.
For a devotee, using words like "rascal" is it acceptable?
Why are you so intolerant? Why do you think, what you think that is correct and what you follows that is the only path? Dont be jelous. This is our sanatana dharma, which owns varoius school of thoughts. There is no competition for supremacy. Why can't we stay with harmony with mutual respect and love. In vaishnavisim also, various school of thoughts do exist. Its not like, which is wrong and which is right. A true devotee has love and respect for every one . He never involves himself in such petty things. FYI, I am a gaudiya vaishnav. I am writing, bcz these kind of things hurts.
I may not have the authority to advice, but i pray to lord krishna for your well-being. Hare krishna
Why rascal not acceptable if someone acts like rascal? Don't act rascal then?
You speak sentimentalism, not sanatana dharma
Who gave you the authority to decide who is rascal or not?
First purify your action and words, authority will follow.
I don't think, I need to learn what is sanatana dharma from you.
Please introspect and see how much venom is there inside you.
You do all the drama on youtube in the name of krisna consciousness for publicity and spreading filth. If that is the way, you have chosen, it's fine. Go ahead.
I don't want to name, there are devotees, who have read our scriptures , in their original form ( not the English translations 😂), goswami literatures, etc. The common thing I found in all of them is the humbleness and the love for all creature. I never heard them claiming authority over anything. ( दैन्य)
They never criticize individual
If you think, by scolding people on social media platforms,do value addition to your stature, I have nothing to say.
All the best and good bye.
Harekrishna
@@shitikanthamishra4316 Prabhu haven't you read the Bhagavad Gita As It Is yet? Krsna Himself says this
BG 7.15
na mam duskrtino mudhah
prapadyante naradhamah
mayayapahrta-jnana
asuram bhavam asritah
SYNONYMS
na-not; mam-unto Me; duskrtinah-miscreants; mudhah-foolish; prapadyante-surrender; naradhamah-lowest among mankind; mayaya-by the illusory energy; apahrta-stolen by illusion; jnanah-knowledge; asuram-demonic; bhavam-nature; asritah-accepting.
TRANSLATION
Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, lowest among mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the atheistic nature of demons, do not surrender unto Me.
So please stop speculating long messages and back up your words from Sastra if you want to continue
Hṛdayānanda:: Sometimes, Prabhupada, when we expose them, their argument is, "Oh, you are a saintly person. Why are you criticizing me?"
Prabhupada: No, it is not criticizing. It is opening your eyes. You are blind, you are thinking yourself as very big, so we are opening eyes. You are not big. You are not even pig or fig. That is... Ajnana-timirandhasya jnananjana-salakaya [Sri guru-pranama]. You are blind with ignorance, so we are trying to open your eyes. See things as they are. It is favoring you. It is not criticizing you.
- Morning Walk - February 6, 1976, Mayapur
Sadhguru is a God ❤❤
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