MINI Stranded us!! Half Shaft Axle and CV joint replacement DIY 2012 MINI
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Hi Everyone, Well,… Our 2012 MINI Roadster (R59) (Manual) stranded us with a broken front left half-shaft axle and CV joint. In this video, I go through replacing the entire half shaft and then, at the end we dig into the broken part to see just why it failed. It is a little disappointing that with less than 25K miles and about five years old it had a failure of this type. At first I thought it was the transmission, but I was happy to find out it was just the axle. The OEM part for this is over $800! Can’t imagine what it would cost to get this done at the dealer… I used an aftermarket OEM equivalent part that I had bought and shipped from AutohausAZ for $80! It fit perfectly and has been great. It is an easy job and doesn’t require any fancy tools.
Since the repair involves losing a little bit of transmission fluid, I have a video on changing the fluid coming out very soon.
The Axle Assembly part number is: 2D-31608605467
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Just about the awesomest DIY mechanic video ever!!! Thank you Franny. Saved me HUNDREDS. Love it. You are the best to follow along with. Appreciate the whole process so much.
Yea! Thanks Ryan!
One of the very best mechanical instructional videos ever!
I have never done this job on a car. Now though, I have the confidence to do it.
My read on the old one is the circlip was not located properly at the factory. The splines were located but not secured and eventually for whatever reason the spline popped out of the cage which then rotated enough to drop a bearing........On the other hand, who cares! Well fixed Fanny!!
Another great video Franny. I've learned to get ball joint pins broken loose are to hit the piece that the pin goes through with a large hammer; that'll usually shock the pin loose. You can also loosen the nut till it's flush with top of threads, then whack the pin loose. The nut will protect the threads.
+Vic Sorlie awesome advice. Thanks!
Also forgot to mention that the re-installation process you went through - making sure to check all the other components while its disassembled is always an oversight in other videos. Brilliant!!!!!!!!
Great DIY video, my 2011 Mini was clunking and I replaced both half-shafts using your excellent guide. Thanks!!
All done wearing pearls, love it!
Another excellent DIY video, thanks ladies. You shouldn't be surprised that the part failed in just 20,000 miles, after all it was made in GB.
+Peter J. Uren yeah. We weren't going to go there. What is weird about our car was it was probably a Friday afternoon car. We had several items missing from the factory on the left hand side of the car. It's was kind of strange. Of course, that failure was also on the left. Heidi
Excellent work! It is great to see someone taking charge and fixing her vehicles.
Thanks! Franny
Awesome job Franny. thanks for the video.
Nice catch of that camera! What a move to catch it while midst a repair
I didn't even remember until I was editing... Just an automatic reflex after my brother taught me to juggle when I was young :)
Awesome video, tutorial and view. Love the way you just get on with stuff, and in your lemon sweater! Well done you, fab job. Thanks for sharing.
+steffydog1 thanks for watching. I hope you enjoyed the bonus section. Heidi
Perfect video - good explanations, nicely paced, and a pleasant watch. Thank you!
Nice DIY video. Did you notice how the center cap writing is centered on the valve stem below? Thoughtful. Impressed with your abilities, once more. Seemed quite straightforward. Glad it worked out well!
Thanks John! Modern cars are so modular that some bits are easy to service - you just end up replacing assemblies and not individual components I think. The lift makes it super easy as you will soon find out ;) Franny
RocketJoh
Best video on this job, by far.
The towel was a bit much.
Thanks. The towel on the jack stand? I do that a lot. If you crack the paint that piece will start to rust. I've seen it so many times.
Fantastic video, very well done! That seemed to go very smoothly. All of your DIY videos are fantastic. You are brilliant Franny!
-Nick H.
NicksRSR Thanks Nick! It did go a bit more smoothly than I thought it would... Yea! Franny
You made it look so easy. Mine need changing and I reckon I could do these myself, thank you ❤
Hi Franny! Great job! I would have thought you had done one before had you not said you hadn't. Thanks for the video and part autopsy. I think it's good to know what went wrong. Losing a ball from a bearing is bad. I might even take it back to MINI to show them what happened. Failures like that should be logged.
I've got my new front CV axles and will change both sides when I get to the front suspension on my 97 Honda CR-V. I've never done it before either, but I think it won't be too hard. I'm taking everything in the wheel well apart and replacing it with all new parts. I'm now concerned about the rear drivers side axle after watching you move the broken one by hand. I'll have to check it again before I complete the rear end.
I started taking apart the rear passenger side trailing arm and found the bushing to be completely worn out. There is no rubber between the race and the pin anymore. No wonder it clunks so badly! The drivers side wasn't as bad, meaning it hadn't fallen completely apart yet. I almost had it apart when it started pouring rain so I had to quit for the day. I'll pick back up tomorrow...
"...everything in the wheel well apart and replacing it with all new parts."
Wow! Haven't you found nothing better to do with your money?!
It really don't make any sense at all.
If the car is in such bad condition to need all that replaced. Than we're talking about a piece of scrap (literally). If not is just insane... consider giving it to charity, might be a better use for those funds! ;-)
Hah, I just did this on my ND Miata. Took me a couple of hours trying to figure out that the outer CV boot is "not a serviceable item". Great video! BMW star quality at its best.
+Mike Barber uh oh.
I'm not sure what you meant with "not a serviceable item"!! Because it is indeed a serviceable item! The boot, cv joint... can all be disassembled, exchanged, etc. if and when needed.
Just because in this case the entire shaft was replaced, it's an individual option.. The reality is that in the "real world" most people just change what need's replacement. The option to replace everything is usually left for the wealthy or, surprisingly or not, less knowledgeable.
BTW When working calmly, with no rush, it might take an extra 10 or 15minutes of one's time. That's it, surely not a big deal, On the other hand, on the savings side it can be an interesting difference. ;-)
23:43 editing tip... Don't try to raise the object up to the video camera because chances are the video camera won't focus on the small item, it will focus on the bigger thing which is you. Instead, zoom in using your video editor during post processing. If you are recording in 4k, you can zoom in 4-6x without much corruption in the image.
Frannie you need a shop coat or a shop apron hate to see you spotting up your yellow shirt! My guess that was a fault of not being seated so the ring did not lock on to the cv joint. Just my thought. Really enjoy your videos!!!
you made me work hard to find a fault. But I did.. No tongue numbers for the luggage bolt install, lol. Also I got to try the good luck pearls on my next DIY challenge.
Great video Franny!1 Really informative. Love that you took apart the broken half-shaft for us. Cheers!!
You bet! Thanks! F
Very entertaining half hour Franny! and you now have a new lemon polo rag ;-)
+Mike Edwards totally!
Franny, you are a v. good teacher. and Heidi a very good camera operator
Thank you.
Most excellent video! Thanks for putting forth the effort!
+James Wheaton thanks James!
It is incredible. Very impressive of your abilities. 😍👍👍
Ok... I thought so. 6:17 the Frannie fade in was a cool effect. It caught me by surprise and made me go back and watch again to make sure I didn't imagine it. Thanks for the breakdown of the CV after the fact. I was curious what let loose inside. I believe what happened like you said the retention clip failed. That allowed the shaft to pull out of the star and then it just flung around loose when you were trying to drive. With it flinging around loose it maybe moved the joint enough that one of the balls were able to fall out of their location. Anyone's guess I suppose.
Thanks, Either that or they never seat it during the initial assembly of the shaft. I'm surprised it didn't just come out completely and cause some real damage! It was only being held in by the rubber boot. That boot was really hard and stiff. Not super impressed with that part :( Glad it happened in a parking lot and not at 70mph on the interstate! (oh, glad you liked the fade in... Big Star Trek fan and all...)
Great job! Thanks for sharing. Hopefully this will help with my 06 Mini. Thanks for the bonus section!
Well done as always. It would be interesting to learn what this job cost you versus how much a dealer would have charged you to do it. I drove my 06 330i 225,000 miles before I sold it and got my M2 and did quite a few jobs to keep her going, if i had to pay a dealer to do all of the maintenance and repair I would have never been able to afford to keep it going but by DIY the jobs I figure I saved about 7k over the life of the car in labor costs. DIY videos and posts to websites helped me a tremendous amount so I always appreciate when people take the time to video and post this stuff. I have done a few photo threads myself to contribute to the community. Kinda miss having projects now that I have a new car. This failure was a shame, very odd but happy you sorted it out fairly easily.
Thanks! I bet we have paid for the lifts with these sorts of jobs. I wonder what MINI would have charged. The original part I found was $800 so I'm guessing you wouldn't get out of there for under a grand? Always annoying to have to be towed :( Franny
It is about a grand for a dealer to change one, most of which is chewed up by the parts cost. OEM parts are at least $800, though a perfectly acceptable aftermarket is under $100. I'm normally a verdant supporter OE parts, particularly with German cars - but I can't justify spending TEN times the part cost. Particularly if the car has higher mileage.
That was very clean and easy to understand, thanks.
You should include all your socket sizes too!!!
Sorry
Franny text book r/r of the the axle or CV joint I should know I m a Tech and the leg under the car would not have scratch ( old rubber carpet piece would work also ) as for the cause of the failure interesting Watson = has we watch that unit was tight in place no play from any other component to give room for that ball dislodge or did it do so when we r/r the axle passing a point of flex that would permit the ball to drop in the assembly no overheating sign (blue) lub was still present no leak ................well puzzle puzzle I will check up on the net to see if common problem = No tsb no recall and not flag has a common failure (weak point on certain model ) Maybe the size of that marble :0/ :0i the little damage on the end is not conclusive has could have occurred after the failure
Glad everyone is ok , keep up the good tubework, all the best SOULDave
Thanks. Yup, it is a head scratcher... My best guess is a week clip or it was never seated properly before installation. It had plenty of grease and the joint itself had no real wear. Surprising there was enough lateral movement to allow it to fully separate. I suppose it follows that you could replace that boot without completely removing the axle, but it would still be easier with it out. Thanks, Franny
Very impressive work and great video
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Thanks! Franny
Super helpful! Thanks!
It’s unfortunate that it is super helpful. I wonder how many people run into this issue. Sad thing. Our car had just 25k miles too.
Yeah, it is a bummer that it went bad with so few miles, but good that it was a pretty easy fix :) ...and that the part wasn't that expensive ;) F
Big help. Thanks for the instruction!
You are very welcome :)
You have to see Mod mini doing this and other mini stuff. He uses huge hammers!
Just saw this, AWESOME video Franny! I think Heidi has a heavy foot.... hehehe
Yup... Need to talk to her about that ;)
@@HeidiandFranny - The issue usually is not the heavy foot by itself. But is the heavy foot with a twisted steering. On front wheel drive vehicles the cv joints are summited to ridiculously high efforts. Particularly when not in a straight line!
So make sure to advise accordingly. That radical acceleration on a curve, or pull out from a stop position into a tight radius curve, etc. Should be avoided as best as possible. The results are obvious. ;-)
great vid
love the video, thank you !
I hate it when I toss a ball too.
:) Thanks funny.
Break over bar?
Great videos. I’ve got a ‘13 Cooper Countryman. Any suggestions you can share on how you discover torque specs and such for the repairs you do? Keep motoring!
Hi C Pat, The best place is the service manual, but since the car is so new, those manuals will be super expensive. If you have a relationship with a local shop, give them a call and see if they would look it up for you or allow you to browse their manuals. Other than that, I do searches for the specific bolt and try to find multiple consensuses on the value. Be careful and make sure it makes sense. Steel against aluminum, steel against steel, etc. Thanks! Franny
Great video! Really informative and interesting. I've learned a lot about CV joints and how they work from this. You are so careful not to cause any unnecessary damage to the car when working on it (a towel over the axle stand for example) - if only all garages were this careful! Just a thought - would it be a good idea to check the wheel alignment after doing this? I wonder if the failure was due to a manufacturing fault? Maybe they hadn't quite assembled it correctly in the first place and 20,000 miles later - bam! It seems like one of those unfortunate things that just happen from time to time. My guess is you were just unlucky.
Good idea on the alignment... I didn't loosen anything that had any adjustment or play, but with all the fussing and moving things around it probably wouldn't hurt. It seems to drive the same except it shifts a little better because I changed out the transmission fluid. I'll have a quick video on that soon. It could have been a lot more expensive... Thanks, Franny
Astounding that it was your first time replacing that part, you handled it like a Pro. Is there any safety issue with only replacing one side?
Hello, first of all I love the video. Thank you so much. Second, I have a 2014 base cooper and the outer tie rod end has the hex bolt. Of course, it was rusted and ended up being stripped as I attempted to reattach the tie rod to the knuckle. My guess is that I am now going to have to replace that outer tie rod. Also, I'm guessing I will need to get an alignment once I get the new outer tie rod in place. Is all of that accurate? Do you have any thoughts about other options? Thanks!
@Heidi you made this look so simple and easy! Quick question.. my mini felt like I had a flat tire on the left side , pulled over went to put the car in park and it kept rolling backwards.. Does that mean a broken CV joint? Thank you
Hmmm... Well, you would have to have two broken CV joints for the transmission to be locked but the cart still able to roll. Was your hand brake on? If you have a broken CV joint the car won't move under is own power. I think you'll need to get under the car and take a look. Good luck! F
@@HeidiandFranny It’s a broken left CV AXLE.. The car wouldn’t engage into park , drive or reverse..I wish I saw your video before I took it to the mechanic.. I’m going to replace the right side before my road trip to South Carolina.. Big Thanks Franny!
Are you sure that tray with the axle stand in is designed for that purpose? It just appears a little light weight in the video as though it is for keeping your tools in etc not for a quarter or half weight of a car.. just a thought
+isctony you know, its a good question, but is is called a jack tray and that is it’s purpose. You can watch our video on our lift here is you want. You can also contact direct lift and find out the max value for those trays. I have no idea what they are. Here is the video on our direct lift. Information is included in the description. Thanks for watching. Heidi
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how did you stay so clean? I would have ended up looking like I was covered in tar. Great video!
Well! Have you noticed the impeccably clean underside, transmission case, etc. and let's not forget the lift. That I'm sure its a good part of the reason...
2009 Mini Cooper
100,000 miles, manual transmission. With the engine running, when the clutch is released, it sits like it is in neutral. Does not even try to move. With the engine running I can run through the gears without the clutch and I hear no grinding. The shifter feels normal, not tight, not sloppy. Any ideas?? Please help.
Sounds like the clutch or linkage. Can you push the car with the engine off, but in gear (any/every gear) and the clutch out?
@@HeidiandFranny So try to push the car with it in gear. If it moves it, it may very well be the clutch? Am I understanding correctly? Thank you for your time.
@@justineverely9961 Yes, just be careful the car doesn't get away from you. It could be the linkage to the clutch and not the clutch proper.
@@HeidiandFranny thank you very much for your input. Greatly appreciated.
@@HeidiandFranny with the engine off I can push the car when I’m gear. Just tried it.
can you tell me how many inch long is your pry bar? fantastic video!
I think it is about 18" or so... Home Depot special. It worked really well though! Something like this: goo.gl/3m98Jq
Feel free to get it from wherever of course... Franny
great video , but did you put a new circlip on the gearbox end cos it seems that is where my one failed
Yup... The new one came with a new clip or I would have replaced it myself. Good point. That is where it failed. Hard to believe so much is riding on that small piece of curved wire ;) f
Mini's might be cute and, but in my experience some of the most poorly engineered and made vehicles. Best purchased as a lease while covered by a full warranty. Very nice vid though!
Yup... I'm inclined to believe you a bit. They did make a zillion so maybe that is why you hear of more failures, but it does feel a bit like a cobbled together Euro city car. Too bad. They are cute and different than most everything else in that range. Thanks! F
Amazing . . . .
What would a dealer charge for that repair $ $ $ $ $ $
Just a guess, but the dealer, probably over a grand and maybe a bit less for an Indy? ...and the hassle of getting a broken car there and leaving it for a few days... F
Great video I have a question what was the symptoms of your mini because my wife was driving her Mini Cooper and the car started slowing down and now you accelerate but the car will not move can that be because of the axle the car only has 60,000 miles and no check engine once again thank you for that grade video
Hi David, Well, it just stopped moving all the sudden - all I got was a slight growl in every gear. The car wouldn't move and we had to push it into a spot. If your car still moves, but the engine will rev with the clutch out but not accelerate, then it probably needs a new clutch. With ours, there was no difference with the car in gear and the clutch in our out. Does that help? Franny
Thank you so much. my car is having the same symptoms. it doesn't move at all. I went under the car. and I move the axle back and forth in it feels like it has a lot of play and is making a click noise I pray that is just the axle. my wife loves this car by the way you are the best thank you so much
You bet! You should be able to see the axle end pulled out of the carrier. It should be really lose. I got the replacement at Autohause AZ I think and it was a tenth of what mini wanted. It has been working just fine! No alignment issues either because none of the parts you have to take off are adjustable. If you don't want to do it yourself, you could have it towed to an Indy, but it is a pretty straight forward repair. Good luck! F
Is this all the same for the manual transmission too?-Thx.
Sorry, just read that his was a manual...
Do you have plans to replace the other shaft???
+Pete Peterson hopefully not!
i wonder if this is the same for a 07 mini cooper s?
Jay, MINIs are getting better as time goes on, but nothing would surprise me. We think someone gave our apprentice a bit to much leeway on our car.
For what it's worth. The same general principle applies to ALL front wheel drive cars! Example on the ball joint, This one is fixed with 2 bolts, some other cars use 3 bolts, some use threaded ball joint, etc. But like mentioned the principle is exactly the same. ;-)
You find reliability in these beneath Porches and below average?
Porsche is renowned for their reliability with a few notable exceptions... The MINI feels a little cobbled together if I'm honest. I've never owned a BMW but hope to some day so I have nothing to compare it to in that same line (I always think of the MINI as a zero-series BMW). They are cute, but the Boxster is a much better car... Sorry MINI :( F
Please keep breaking your cars because this video was INSPIRING to watch! I feel like I could do this now only after watching it done first. There is a youtube channel called Thunderhead289 where he bought a $500 Ford Ranger and is doing similar stuff but obviously at a lower cost of entry!
Yeah, the MINI shouldn't break for what they cost... Probably not the last repair on this car ;) Thanks, f
Love the video, but that is very disappointing quality of the Mini. I was thinking of getting one but I hear so many horror stories.
Other friends of ours really love them. I think ours might have been a Friday "beer-thirty" car. There is a big under-panel on the left side that was never installed and I had to ask the dealership when we bought it to add the large round access port in the wheel well and a cover on one of the rear shocks. It isn't running as well as it was so I'll have to get to that at some point. It was fairly easy to fix, so there is that... Thanks, F
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Franny,
You and Ed China need to get together ASAP! Love your long form maintenance videos.
Rich Doherty Edd is great and incredibly smart. It would be an honor if we were able to meet him. Heidi
Hey Franny you just showing off by wearing those clothes while wrenching?! lol
sorry about that maybe I did not get the humor accept my apologies I did ask Franny about the clothing a wile back she explain they are old clothing to work on the cars and stuff
a cv booty???? wth
And the MINI knows how to shake it! (until it falls apart unfortunately...)
I don't know how easy u took off the axle....u must of had someone help you...I tried to take mine off...it's a bitch.... excuse my French
THATS NOT A MINI
Well, MINI calls it a MINI...