The series never again reached the heights the first season reached. They amped everything up to the point of cringe. There were no cartoon villains, just two dudes with shades to their points of view...
@@darthlemon it has great moments indeed. But it's the first appearance of the "all-out-brawl for season finale" trope, which I hate. Kreese kinda works for a minute until he becomes a cartoonishly evil guy... IDK... It does have its highs for sure, and higher that what comes after
I genuinely couldn’t imagine being in Johnny’s position in this moment. This must’ve been incredibly stressful for him having to support his students but also seeing his son get attacked with the same “No Mercy” ideology he taught them.
even more... he saw miguel fight like he himself was taught by kreese back in the day which in the end destroyed him... and u can see that he doesnt want miguel to go down the same path
Well yeah but let’s not forget he was only 17 here, and 21 in season 5. Tanner was already passed 18 in season 1 so it kinda makes sense only Xolo has grown
@@idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 do you mean the actor or the character??????. Cuz the actor was 18 in season 1 and he's 23 now. Robby Keene the character was 16 in season 1 and he's 18 in season 5.
Man the breathing before Robby enters back into the fight is so good. I know we've had four seasons since then, but I really feel like Robby peaked right there. He's centered, focused only on winning. There's no hatred, or anger, or consideration of his opponent as an enemy. He's only trying to use the best karate he can. Incredible.
The way Johnny and Daniel both look disappointed when Cobra Kai wins is such a crazy thing to see! Also, Johnny owns the new Cobra Kai. I feel like this will come full circle and Johnny regains control of his dojo, but trains the new Cobra Kai to fight with honor similar to Miyagi-Do.
I love this fight , it shows how similar they are too each other and becoming like there sensei’s. Miguel is Legit Daniel and Johnny fused together into one Robby is if Johnny had the right teacher in this moment
neither of them are "the next daniel" or "the next johnny" or fused together, miguel and robby are both their own unique characters and cant be compared to daniel or johnny
Neither of these kids has had it easy, but neither one understands the other. Miguel looks at Robby and sees a pretty boy who has never been bullied or has any idea what it's like to be him. Robby looks at Miguel and sees someone who is a bully just like his father was.
Robby as a pretty boy,he sufferer a lot more than miguel,all he had is his mom and even his mom didn't care about him,ik she got better in s1 but in s1 she didn't care about robby
@@andrestrydom1613 I know. Cuz they learned both equally but they will still have a edge in a particular one. For example the one in which they are trained the most . They have adapted to it.
Bet they're saving it for a moment later on. Also wondering if it'll be the ultimate technique that only works once/ "so last season" like the Crane Kick in KK2.
One of the things I really liked about this fight (and the first two seasons of Kobra Kai) that kinda got lost as the series went on, was that there wasnt really a bad guy. It was a fantastic character-driven show where everyone had flaws and you could root for anyone. In later seasons Kobra Kai just got more and more evil until it was eventually a pretty straightforward light vs dark show. Not sure if the final season will bring that around but short of "ah ha ha everyone hates each other again and jonny/daniel split up for a 4th time" I dont see that happening
@@imtiyazyasir23 it's called character development. Johnny and Daniel both realized they spread their rivalry into their own students and knew they could not continue their rivalry after the school fight. While they certainly still had their differences in later seasons, it was never at the level it was before the school fight.
@davidmancini7388 yh I know about the good character development in this show but I'm just saying the first two seasons had such a special feeling to them, the more recent seasons like 4 and 5 are just too abnoxious and unrealistic
But why can’t Miyagi do work in a street fight? It consists of fighting defensively where you dodge and block until you find an opening and hit, and also vice versa, Cobra Kai works in a tournament by fighting offensively using skill and even aggression to win a point.
@@deliacozo8542 He knows the other secrets of Miyagi Do. There was a lot he didn’t teach Daniel tbh. Plus Miyagi was a WWII Veteran. A few teens with karate is a walk in the park.
the good thing in this fight is that robby when the match finished, he bowed to miguel showing him respect despite the fact miguel got the win cause he focused on his injured shoulder..
@@axlcyald5812 Yeah but if he kept a clear mind Miguel would’ve won 3-0 probably. He was too consumed by anger which probably made his offense better but he had no defense. which is why he gave up 2 points
@@yessirski1672 that is the rule and teachings of cobra Kai..lol you always fight with anger and aggressive if your in cobra Kai.. there's a reason why they teach "no mercy" in cobra Kai.. Miguel is focus to win that's why he hit Robby's shoulder so that he can make sure he wins..your always consume by anger if your in cobra Kai Bec that's their teachings..
Actually, the opposite is true. Cobra Kai makes a Nervous guy more Aggressive and Miyagi Do does the opposite. Miguel needed to be more aggressive and Robby needed to be more soft in their approach
I'm really enjoy that we were finally able to see again this balanced and focused Robby in his fight against Miguel in season 6. We hadn't seen him like that since season 1.
@@marrychrismas306 think it's s01e09, he taught to the whole class about no mercy lesson. But I don't think he specifically used these words "there's nothing dirty about winning".
I feel like the writers were going to give him a Anakin/Darth Vader type storyline, but they backed away from it in season 2, and gave it to Eli/Hawk. IMO, I didn’t really get a dark Miguel in season 2.
I agree. Robby is way overhated by the fanbase, and underestimated by them as well. He’s a damn good fighter. S5 SPOILER even after the rivalry between Miguel and Robby is done and they are practically good friends now, the fanbase is still hating on Robby trying to compare him to Miguel. Who cares, the rivalry is done.
In this fight Robby was definitely better but in the later seasons the better fighter was Miguel and even hawk improved. In current standings it’s 1.Miguel 2. Hawk 3. Robby
Robby almost won using only ONE arm against Miguel. And now he reverse swept and cleaned out Miguel with quite the ease in season 6. If anyone doubts he is the best fighter, please open your eyes. :)
ROBBY AFTER TWO WEEKS ONLY OF TRAINING AND HAVING SEVERE INJURIES WAS ABLE TO GET 2 OUT OF 3 POINTS AGAINST PRIME MIGUEL WHILE MIGUEL IS ONLY HITTING ROBBY IN HIS WEAKNESS PLACES
Plot, it makes zero sense other than the writers trying to build up suspense and is obvious after you watch the school fight where Miguel had Robby subdued and could of broke his arm if he really wanted to but let him go and we know what happened after that Edit: actually the reason why Robby did better was because he had more composure and balance
@@horsekfobster7823 yeah ur right, Daniel is a hella quick learner but the fact Robby mastered the kick that Daniel tried to do for over a decade in less than a day or 2 shows how fast of a learner Robby is
Miguel wasn’t as competitive u can tell because he knows he is injured u think Robby would actually would of had that many points on him if Miguel was trying his best against Robby no💀💀💀 Miguel clearly won
Both finals Robbie has been in, he was either nerfed (shoulder injury) or distracted (wanting to show Kenny mercy makes you a winner even if you lose). I really hope robby wins the sekkai taikai and isn’t pushed off to the side with some bs injury or distracted by Tory. When he was fighting Miguel with one hand is the most hyped I’ve been in all 5 and a third seasons
This was the moment when Miguel began to feel the negative effects of being a Cobra Kai. Just like its creator, John Kreese, that is not the art of self-defense, but of hurting people. And Johnny Lawrence was in charge of reviving those forbidden techniques of the well-known "No Mercy."
@@marrychrismas306 Johnny always taught the essence of the real Cobra Kai to Miguel as well as his other apprentices, until he realized how serious it could really be to use the classic "No Mercy."
@@myhrebu8224 Robby broke Miguel's back in Season 2, but many people forget Miguel attacked Robby's already injured shoulder several times during this fight. Miguel could have given Robby career-ending injuries. He wanted to make Robby suffer, not just win.
@@HxHwillReturn You’re insane for comparing attacking an opponent’s weak spot to win to Robby pushing miguel off the ledge even AFTER miguel put his fists down. You must’ve never played a sport because if you have any weakness, people WILL exploit it. That’s the reality.
And that's why i say they are equal this season cause robby was physically nerfed for around the end while miguel wss mentally nerfed since sam broke up with him and he also hit that out bounds in my opinion it could go either way
Johnny was most likely thinking back to when Kreese made him fight dirty against Daniel in 1984 and so he didn't want Miguel to fight dirty against his son.
Miguel will have been the winner of this tournament, but Robby was the best fighter, even with his injured arm, he managed to put up a very good fight and although he lost, he bowed to Miguel, maintaining respect and honor for their fight, which Miguel did not do at the time. being completely blinded by anger and wanting to hurt Robby just because he misunderstood things between Robby and Sam when they arrived at the party. After seeing Miguel and Hawk win in a tournament, I feel that for the Sekai Taikai tournament the fairest thing is for Robby to finally win it after the effort and hard things he had to go through throughout the series, even so putting the last name Lawrence at the top.
I mean, Robby, in season 1, is kind of a dick I mean, sure, he has his nice moments, but everybody does he isn't like usually nice. I mean, sure, he showed sportsmanship, but he also insulted Hawk, which caused him to hurt his arm, so he kinda got what was coming for him.
I loved the Rivalry between Miguel and Robby because in some ways, Miguel is Goku who's proving to be the best, while Robby has Vegeta's hot-blooded Attitude and pride.
@@Zero-pz6jo it was only in this season where Miguel turned Vegeta In the rest of the seasons it's robbie I like how they are bros now after all the rivalry
This fight is one major reason to why Robby showed Miguel no mercy later when Miguel did the same here, Miguel was deliberately hurting him here and other stuff through season 1-2.
Only fight, to date, where Robby walked away seeming like he was honestly better than Miguel (and probably the last time, now that they had their "once and for all" in season 5), keeping up and gaining an edge with one arm, until Miguel took advantage of his sportsmanship. Still not sure if the moral is going to be that "Zen" Robby is strongest Robby, or if the creators just plain ended up favoring Miguel.
1:57 & 2:25 Robby is the main character, he tried to help Miguel up and the sore loser injured his arm. Then y’all wonder why they have beef, Miguel is a juvenile delinquent
@@xnortheast1106 lmao miguel and robby are considered to be equal, logically, statement wise and featwise. The main character is JOHNNY, not miguel, the son of main character is ROBBY. Writers say that robby and miguel are equal.
I know the latest seasons are fun to watch but to me nothing comes close to the first 2 seasons of this series. The characters were so much better written and the series had a grounded realness to it. Just my 2 cents.
This whole tournament was literally the same as the KK1 1. Daniel and Johnny are fighting over a girl just like Miguel and Robby 2. Miguel used the crane kick to defeat the opponent 3. Johnny and Miguel faced a real skilled opponent 4. Bobby injured Daniel, Hawk injured Robby 5. Daniel heals Robby like Mr. Miyagi did to him 6. Kreese told Johnny to fight dirty and no mercy, just like Johnny did to Miguel 7. Johnny cheats by sweeping the leg, Miguel cheats by pulling the arm
the way they did s1 was perfect,what I mean is Daniel won against Johnny in 1984 and they want a cobra kai to win in the Same time showing that the miyagi do is better,like Robby was better in s1 but miguel won as the makes the season more perfect as it shows Robbys loyal less and respect and Miguel's trash behaviour
Ik miguel is the fan favorite and is like more than Robby but let’s remember Miguel started the rivalry when they met at the party and tried to hit him when he was defending Sam and then in the tournament he fought with honor and after he knocked him down he tried to help him up only for Miguel to hurt his arm even worse Robby didn’t get bad until the episode where Miguel turned in the necklace and Robby didn’t tell Sam I’m glad they are friends and like brothers and season 5 but they could’ve been from the start no matter how jealous Robby was of Miguel’s relationship with his dad he didn’t start this long rivalry
robby started the hate qhen he saw miguel hugging his father. then he is with sam at a party. he says to sam : is this yout bf? which means he doesnt like the guy (miguel) miguel is justified
I don’t care what anyone says Robby was the superior fighter in season 1. The way he was able to clear his mind and keep that balance made him a better fighter than Miguel who was fighting out of anger. I’m 100% sure if Robby wasn’t injured he would’ve won.
And yet, it was in the first season that Robbie was stronger as a fighter (including this fight), Miguel defeated him dishonestly, this victory cannot be called fair. That's how Lawrence earned his two points against LaRusso in 1984, but LaRusso was able to finish the fight with an injury and Robbie was not. That makes all the difference. In this fight I am proud of Robbie, even with one hand he turned out to be stronger as a fighter, let's be honest.
@@gjjijji What? He had an injury and Miguel took advantage of it, what is the storyline between Miguel, Hawk and Johny about, what are you talking about? In this fight, Robbie was stronger as a fighter and he earned his points with an injury, while Miguel earned them by attacking the injured area.Calm down, no one said that Miguel is weaker NOW, lol. Lawrence himself tells Miguel in this fight that he needs a victory, but a fair one, without a dirty fight.
@@gjjijji Every time he got a point, Miguel attacked Robbie's shoulder >> you ask where he won fair. Lol. At the same time, Robbie received both points while injured; he also went up to Miguel to lift him, and he pulled his injured arm xDD Go to the ophthalmologist, your love for Miguel has overshadowed your reality, you don’t even understand what people are writing to you about. To give you even more truth about the world - I am not a fan of Miguel or Robbie at all. I judge specifically from this fight, the first point Robbie received was in a fair fight, when Miguel had not yet attacked the shoulder. After this, Miguel always hit the shoulder and tells Lawrence that he knows about Robbie's injured shoulder.
@@dj4rt1808 Still did it, and ran away like a coward without even checking if he was alive, not to mention that he taunted Miguel at S4 with that, and don't forget that he tried to punch Miguel at S3 when he just got out of his coma and barely started to recover, were those unintentionally assaults too?
@@pedrosoares2582 ok lets talk about all things miguel did to robby, kissed his girl TWICE, insulted his relationship with his father, attacked him when he was breaking up the fight, pushed him on the floor before he even knew who was
Robby would have won this fight if he wasn't injured. This was the only season where Robby was better than Miguel. Also the two legged leg part was the best part of the fight.
@gjjijji No, - In season 1, Robby is the better fighter (Robby with one arm was able to keep up with Miguel, Robby with both arms would be above Miguel) - In season 3 Robby is the better fighter (Miguel was in a wheelchair for 90% of the season) - In season 4 Robby is the better fighter (Robby overpowered Miguel by chucking him into the pool) - In season 6 Robby is the better fighter (When both focused, Robby beat Miguel in a fight fair and square)
Yh we know, Miguel kept hitting Robbys dislocated shoulder, if Miguel didn't do that, Robby would have won since he was able to keep up with Miguel with one arm
@@imtiyazyasir23 literally Miguel was losing before that he always find a way to win ez like in school he tried to break his arm he is a little coward rat why would u break an arm in a real fight? Bc you are not at the same lvl and u want to win ez
@@Light-nq4rfso y was miguel able to overpower robby in the school fight and in the season 5 fight? miguel just stronger after S1 by a good margin and he beat a stronger robby twice robby shouldn’t have let miguel get him in an armlock😂it’s only 2 ways to end a fight, knock someone out or put them in a submission move i agree robby would’ve won but miguel got stronger after that
William Zabka is a much better actor than the scripts he's had in the past have let him be. You can see his concern as the fight evolves is two-fold: He is personally worried about Robbie, which is pretty normal for a parent, but he's also realizing that he's done to his students just what Kreese did to him. His "My God, what have I done?" look needs no dialog.
“You taught me that” that line definitely hit a nerve in Jonny.
He finally saw the wrong in it 😢
The moment when you realize what you been taught for years is wrong!
The series never again reached the heights the first season reached. They amped everything up to the point of cringe. There were no cartoon villains, just two dudes with shades to their points of view...
@@Petu1987I think season 2 was arguably on par with season 1 if not better but yeah I get you.
@@darthlemon it has great moments indeed. But it's the first appearance of the "all-out-brawl for season finale" trope, which I hate. Kreese kinda works for a minute until he becomes a cartoonishly evil guy... IDK... It does have its highs for sure, and higher that what comes after
I genuinely couldn’t imagine being in Johnny’s position in this moment. This must’ve been incredibly stressful for him having to support his students but also seeing his son get attacked with the same “No Mercy” ideology he taught them.
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even more... he saw miguel fight like he himself was taught by kreese back in the day which in the end destroyed him... and u can see that he doesnt want miguel to go down the same path
@@spixxy1751it’s just nice they are getting along now
yeah it must have been even more stressful that his top two students were using dirty methods on his son
It’s a tv show
It’s funny to see how much more grown Miguel looks now in S5 while Robby still looks basically the same just with shorter hair
kinda but Robby is SIGNIFICANTLY more jacked in season 5 than he was in season 1 so credit to Tanner on that
Well yeah but let’s not forget he was only 17 here, and 21 in season 5. Tanner was already passed 18 in season 1 so it kinda makes sense only Xolo has grown
@@idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 jesus christ hes 21?
@@idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 do you mean the actor or the character??????. Cuz the actor was 18 in season 1 and he's 23 now. Robby Keene the character was 16 in season 1 and he's 18 in season 5.
@@paradise9151 the actor
Man the breathing before Robby enters back into the fight is so good. I know we've had four seasons since then, but I really feel like Robby peaked right there. He's centered, focused only on winning. There's no hatred, or anger, or consideration of his opponent as an enemy. He's only trying to use the best karate he can. Incredible.
The dude is back in Season 5. He's got nothing to win or lose anymore, and he's balanced again
It's not THAT good. Miguel is better.
He has the most potential out of anyone in the series. Johnny taught him well.
@@Travis371 dude... go 3 comments without making this about Miguel
@@lukastace3154 Never
@@Travis371 💀
I don’t know why, but the way Miguel says “time?” is just hilarious to me
It's like he heard that word for the first time
It reminds me of James Rolfe, if you get what I mean XD
He acted cocky
i love it when miguel goes "AAIIII" when he takes stance
Yea thats awesome. Its kinda like a battle cry so he does that everytime he stances up. We learn that in Karate as well.
0:10 and 3:44
Intimidation tactics
The way Johnny and Daniel both look disappointed when Cobra Kai wins is such a crazy thing to see! Also, Johnny owns the new Cobra Kai. I feel like this will come full circle and Johnny regains control of his dojo, but trains the new Cobra Kai to fight with honor similar to Miyagi-Do.
I miss that intensity from his character. Miguel had a big heart, but when it came down to business he turned into a damn animal.
I love this fight between Robby and miguel was brilliant.
Miguel is the bad guy. Robby became Miguel in Season 4. Johnny is in Cobra Kai. But now he is the founder of Eagle Fang. Everyone changed.
@@rickyhuynh4641 yeah and Miguel was the better bad guy tbh
@@rickyhuynh4641 he isn't a bad "guy" he wan under bad influence no one turns bad people
They are just UN proper taught people
@@innitparody5209 black suited Spider-Man version
@ApexEdits robby is the best character
I love this fight , it shows how similar they are too each other and becoming like there sensei’s.
Miguel is Legit Daniel and Johnny fused together into one
Robby is if Johnny had the right teacher in this moment
Miguel: Offensive Daniel
Robby: Defensive Johnny
But they both resemble Daniel and Johnny
Preach! 📖
neither of them are "the next daniel" or "the next johnny" or fused together, miguel and robby are both their own unique characters and cant be compared to daniel or johnny
@@KewlWIS I didn’t say they were the next versions of those characters but they have most similarities with both Johnny & Daniel
@@ccl7983bro straight up put words in your mouth with those quotes 😂😂
Neither of these kids has had it easy, but neither one understands the other. Miguel looks at Robby and sees a pretty boy who has never been bullied or has any idea what it's like to be him. Robby looks at Miguel and sees someone who is a bully just like his father was.
I doubt Miguel looks at Robby and sees a pretty boy🤣
They both didnt have their fathers growing up
@@NiKi-ij2ln and neither knows that about the other. It's not about who they are but about how they perceive each other.
Robby as a pretty boy,he sufferer a lot more than miguel,all he had is his mom and even his mom didn't care about him,ik she got better in s1 but in s1 she didn't care about robby
@@nishamarkose9966 never said anything to the contrary. I'm saying this is just how they likely see each other.
Terry Silver would love to accept this version of Miguel to be his student. He fought dirty just what Silver wanted to win
He definitely would have. Miguel was crazy
Everyone is making villain Miguel here but don't forgot that Sam messed with him otherwise he wouldn't play dirty against Robby
@@target9180Miguel messed with himself
@@xnortheast1106 Sam messed with him she should have forgiven him
@@target9180 Miguel messed with hi.self but Sam is partially to blame. Miguel should have just moved past Sam
I like how much their fighting styles have changed in season 5 but Miguel is still the offensive fighter while Robby will always be more defensive
Robbie mastered both styles. Miguel only learned Cobra Kai
@@andrestrydom1613Bro watch S6. Miguel also learned miyagi do. Both equally do each karate
@anupamapriyadarsini7358 if you look at their fight for the captaincy, you will see Robbie used Miyagi do to win the fight.
@@andrestrydom1613 I know. Cuz they learned both equally but they will still have a edge in a particular one. For example the one in which they are trained the most . They have adapted to it.
it's funny how we're 5 seasons in now, and not once has "the strongest kick in Miyagi-Do" been brought up again.
Talk about plot-holes.
Bet they're saving it for a moment later on.
Also wondering if it'll be the ultimate technique that only works once/ "so last season" like the Crane Kick in KK2.
I bet Robby could do it again, it would be nice to see him do it again
Also haven’t seen Miguel perform that special kick
Daniel does that while ending silver in S5 last episode
Their first fight is iconic
One of the things I really liked about this fight (and the first two seasons of Kobra Kai) that kinda got lost as the series went on, was that there wasnt really a bad guy. It was a fantastic character-driven show where everyone had flaws and you could root for anyone. In later seasons Kobra Kai just got more and more evil until it was eventually a pretty straightforward light vs dark show. Not sure if the final season will bring that around but short of "ah ha ha everyone hates each other again and jonny/daniel split up for a 4th time" I dont see that happening
Yh i agree, cobra kai used to be about johnny and daniels rivalry, it lost that feeling after s2
One thing I’m actually happy about is Tory turned good
@@imtiyazyasir23 it's called character development. Johnny and Daniel both realized they spread their rivalry into their own students and knew they could not continue their rivalry after the school fight. While they certainly still had their differences in later seasons, it was never at the level it was before the school fight.
@davidmancini7388 yh I know about the good character development in this show but I'm just saying the first two seasons had such a special feeling to them, the more recent seasons like 4 and 5 are just too abnoxious and unrealistic
Yeah, it feels like an entirely different show after season 3
One fought like this was a real life combat scenario and one fought like it was a tournament with rules. That was always the difference.
But why can’t Miyagi do work in a street fight? It consists of fighting defensively where you dodge and block until you find an opening and hit, and also vice versa, Cobra Kai works in a tournament by fighting offensively using skill and even aggression to win a point.
@@ToroBravo144there’s tons of fighting styles and martial arts styles that can’t or won’t work in the streets
@@ToroBravo144 Eh, Mr Miyagi fought the cobra kai kids and silver and kreese and he barely touched them
@@deliacozo8542 He knows the other secrets of Miyagi Do. There was a lot he didn’t teach Daniel tbh. Plus Miyagi was a WWII Veteran. A few teens with karate is a walk in the park.
@@ToroBravo144it can but it relies heavily on counterattacks so that might be a problem
For a moment there in season 1, Miguel embraced that No Mercy philosophy in the tournament, with so much ruthlessness.
the good thing in this fight is that robby when the match finished, he bowed to miguel showing him respect despite the fact miguel got the win cause he focused on his injured shoulder..
Ye so true he was playing so dirty
@@axlcyald5812 Yeah but if he kept a clear mind Miguel would’ve won 3-0 probably. He was too consumed by anger which probably made his offense better but he had no defense. which is why he gave up 2 points
@@yessirski1672 that is the rule and teachings of cobra Kai..lol you always fight with anger and aggressive if your in cobra Kai.. there's a reason why they teach "no mercy" in cobra Kai.. Miguel is focus to win that's why he hit Robby's shoulder so that he can make sure he wins..your always consume by anger if your in cobra Kai Bec that's their teachings..
@@abduldimaporo7342 cobra kai and miyagi do are not the strongest forms of fighting anymore. They’re merging the styles therefore making miguel better
@@yessirski1672 what are you talking about?
Honestly this one of the best fights in the series
Hawk's reaction when Miguel wins🤣❤️
I was finna say that
It's amazing how even with just one arm Robby managed to do much more than anyone would have expected.
You really get shocked once you've realized that Robby with his backstory was more suited to be in Cobra Kai and Miguel with Miyagi Do
Yeah Miguel is the Daniel and Robby is the Johnny
nah i think it was right that miguel learnt cobra kai instead
It’s like a what if scenario
What If Johnny Lawrence joined Miyagi Do First
What If Daniel LaRusso joined Cobra Kai First
Actually, the opposite is true. Cobra Kai makes a Nervous guy more Aggressive and Miyagi Do does the opposite. Miguel needed to be more aggressive and Robby needed to be more soft in their approach
Miguel - Daniel with cobra kai offense
Robby - Johnny with miyagi do defense
It would make sense for Miguel and Robby to switch dojos
These flashbacks give me goosebumps. Love it
When Robby kicked Miguel with 2 legs and he offered him his hand to get up and instead he hit him Hawk literally said YAHHHH
Still waiting for Robby to use the two legged kick again
Bro after s1, the most powerful kick in miyagi do is just gone, not even daniel, chozen or robby talk about it anymore
@@imtiyazyasir23because it was just fan service anyway and held no weight in the plot.
Robby getting into his one-handed stance against miguel like rock lee vs gaara.
I'm really enjoy that we were finally able to see again this balanced and focused Robby in his fight against Miguel in season 6. We hadn't seen him like that since season 1.
Johnny’s last expression was like don’t go there Miguel
I love the development between Robby and Miguel went from hating each other to Being brothers and having a baby sister on the way.
This was an brilliant fights between these two
Seeing Hawk going crazy on the sideline. He's definitely the "Tommy" to Miguel's "Johnny"
i thought that too
3:07
Guy: im finished let’s end this
Girl : nonononono let me finish
4:11 even his mother noticed a change in his son
@@marrychrismas306taught or told what?
@@marrychrismas306 think it's s01e09, he taught to the whole class about no mercy lesson. But I don't think he specifically used these words "there's nothing dirty about winning".
I feel like the writers were going to give him a Anakin/Darth Vader type storyline, but they backed away from it in season 2, and gave it to Eli/Hawk. IMO, I didn’t really get a dark Miguel in season 2.
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Daniel + Cobra Kai Offense = Miguel
Johnny + Miyagi-Do Defense = Robby
I really love how Johnny tried to take Miguel under his wing turning him into a bully, the. We got a repeat with Robby and Kenny
This was the only season of Robby being a balance character and then on season 2 it was Miguel’s turn
That was the point of this final episode. To set up miguel’s development
The fighting in this show has definitely gotten better over the seasons
look at the aisha's face😂 0:22
Robby is the champ in my opinion. Always against the odds
@ApexCobraEdits 🐍 and he held back on hawk in a crucial moment
I agree. Robby is way overhated by the fanbase, and underestimated by them as well. He’s a damn good fighter. S5 SPOILER
even after the rivalry between Miguel and Robby is done and they are practically good friends now, the fanbase is still hating on Robby trying to compare him to Miguel. Who cares, the rivalry is done.
In this fight Robby was definitely better but in the later seasons the better fighter was Miguel and even hawk improved. In current standings it’s 1.Miguel 2. Hawk 3. Robby
@@Bryan36802 S5 Robby is better than S5 hawk
@@Bryan36802 nah they nerfed hawk I'd say Robby beats him rn. But it could definitely go either way
Miguel struggling against a one armed opponent is crazy and this is supposed to be his prime 😂
Prime mentality maybe and even then it’s probably not even this since he literally didnt see a problem with the way he was fighting 😂
I always loved a fight between rivals🥋🥰🤟
This Miguel is gonna pop back in S6 part 2 and I can't wait to see how savage he will be
Every Miguel fan should accept this specially in season 1. Robby>>Miguel
Yh
Robby (S1) > miguel (S1)
Robby made it to the finals with no mentor and coach in his corner and basically had to fight the finals with a broken body
miguel so clear .. hawk was actually beating Robby until he got disqualified
@bilpop9517 no Robby was 1-1 with Hawk before Hawk got disqualified and Robby had the most powerful kick in miyagi do in S1
@@imtiyazyasir23 most powerful kick was never heard from that point onwards
Robby almost won using only ONE arm against Miguel. And now he reverse swept and cleaned out Miguel with quite the ease in season 6. If anyone doubts he is the best fighter, please open your eyes. :)
The creators confirmed miguel is the best fighter
@@Migueldiaz-u3v Link your source
Yea Robby is definitely the second best fighter. He gots some skills
@@Migueldiaz-u3vno they didn’t but ok
@@gjjijji1st easily
ROBBY AFTER TWO WEEKS ONLY OF TRAINING AND HAVING SEVERE INJURIES WAS ABLE TO GET 2 OUT OF 3 POINTS AGAINST PRIME MIGUEL WHILE MIGUEL IS ONLY HITTING ROBBY IN HIS WEAKNESS PLACES
Facts, he also managed to do the 2 leg kick. Daniel couldn’t even do that after decades
Plot, it makes zero sense other than the writers trying to build up suspense and is obvious after you watch the school fight where Miguel had Robby subdued and could of broke his arm if he really wanted to but let him go and we know what happened after that
Edit: actually the reason why Robby did better was because he had more composure and balance
Robby will clap miguel 👐🫰
@@horsekfobster7823 yeah ur right, Daniel is a hella quick learner but the fact Robby mastered the kick that Daniel tried to do for over a decade in less than a day or 2 shows how fast of a learner Robby is
Miguel wasn’t as competitive u can tell because he knows he is injured u think Robby would actually would of had that many points on him if Miguel was trying his best against Robby no💀💀💀 Miguel clearly won
Both finals Robbie has been in, he was either nerfed (shoulder injury) or distracted (wanting to show Kenny mercy makes you a winner even if you lose). I really hope robby wins the sekkai taikai and isn’t pushed off to the side with some bs injury or distracted by Tory. When he was fighting Miguel with one hand is the most hyped I’ve been in all 5 and a third seasons
Season 1 cinematography was much better than the rest
3:33 Johnnys eyes when he realizes what he’s created.
When I watched this I didn’t know whose side to be on
same broo
That’s what makes this fight so good
Robby really should’ve won this fight. Would’ve made Miguel’s win in s2 feel so much better.
Miguel didn't win in s2
@@ghxstdtn He had Robby on the ground and quite literally spared him
@@ghxstdtndefinitely did, literally said “i’m sorry” he gave up when he could’ve snapped robby’s arm after taking him down
@@ghxstdtnTechnically he did
This was the moment when Miguel began to feel the negative effects of being a Cobra Kai. Just like its creator, John Kreese, that is not the art of self-defense, but of hurting people. And Johnny Lawrence was in charge of reviving those forbidden techniques of the well-known "No Mercy."
@@marrychrismas306 Johnny always taught the essence of the real Cobra Kai to Miguel as well as his other apprentices, until he realized how serious it could really be to use the classic "No Mercy."
Johnny must have been so disappointed and shocked in Miguel's conduct.
More shocked about how he failed diaz the same way kreese failed him
@@myhrebu8224 Robby broke Miguel's back in Season 2, but many people forget Miguel attacked Robby's already injured shoulder several times during this fight. Miguel could have given Robby career-ending injuries. He wanted to make Robby suffer, not just win.
@@HxHwillReturn You’re insane for comparing attacking an opponent’s weak spot to win to Robby pushing miguel off the ledge even AFTER miguel put his fists down. You must’ve never played a sport because if you have any weakness, people WILL exploit it. That’s the reality.
@@yessirski1672 the point was already won. Miguel did that when a fight wasn't happening. You're point is now invalid
@@yessirski1672 It was a cheap shot and Miguel should of been disqualified in the finals
He was fighting dishonorably
Did anyone notice when robby did the two legged kick his hand was out of bounds?
Yea i thought thats why miguel pulled hia arm
And that's why i say they are equal this season cause robby was physically nerfed for around the end while miguel wss mentally nerfed since sam broke up with him and he also hit that out bounds in my opinion it could go either way
3:28 Good lord its haunting to see Lawrence’s grave mistake early on like that 💀
The composers knew what was up.
Johnny was most likely thinking back to when Kreese made him fight dirty against Daniel in 1984 and so he didn't want Miguel to fight dirty against his son.
Miguel is kinda like Black Suited Symbiote Spider-Man vibes and Robby Keene is kinda like Anakin Skywalker Darth Vader as darkside version
After S5 I would say that Miguel is like Darth Revan while Robbie is just Anakin/Vader
@@sohummohare6364 Miguel gives a Peter Parker vibes in the beginning meeting Johnny Lawrence
Even though he lost his fight Robbie is truly the G.O.A.T.
When Johnny realize he created another him
Miguel will have been the winner of this tournament, but Robby was the best fighter, even with his injured arm, he managed to put up a very good fight and although he lost, he bowed to Miguel, maintaining respect and honor for their fight, which Miguel did not do at the time. being completely blinded by anger and wanting to hurt Robby just because he misunderstood things between Robby and Sam when they arrived at the party.
After seeing Miguel and Hawk win in a tournament, I feel that for the Sekai Taikai tournament the fairest thing is for Robby to finally win it after the effort and hard things he had to go through throughout the series, even so putting the last name Lawrence at the top.
I mean, Robby, in season 1, is kind of a dick I mean, sure, he has his nice moments, but everybody does he isn't like usually nice. I mean, sure, he showed sportsmanship, but he also insulted Hawk, which caused him to hurt his arm, so he kinda got what was coming for him.
Putting up a good fight doesn’t meaning he’s better maybe more durable
@@gjjijjiyea but with one arm and it’s 2-2 and miguel was cheating that’s more then that
@dinetioneditz8109yea if Robby had one arm maybe but if to he would have won very easily
@dinetioneditz8109just stop it! can we just have our peace without you bothering us.
I loved the Rivalry between Miguel and Robby because in some ways, Miguel is Goku who's proving to be the best, while Robby has Vegeta's hot-blooded Attitude and pride.
Except Miguel isn’t really like goku in this scene and Robby is the more calm and clear minded in this scene
@@Zero-pz6jo maybe Miguel is Vegeta while Robby is Goku which is the other way around.
@@Zero-pz6jo it was only in this season where Miguel turned Vegeta
In the rest of the seasons it's robbie
I like how they are bros now after all the rivalry
@@UltimateSpider1385 Miguel Diaz is Yin(Bad)
Robby Keene is the Yang(Good)
Just give up on the dichotomies they are complex characters don't put them in a box
This fight is one major reason to why Robby showed Miguel no mercy later when Miguel did the same here, Miguel was deliberately hurting him here and other stuff through season 1-2.
Exactly, and a lot of Miguel fans forget that.
seriously, im glad someone said it
Is true, but Miguel went into a coma
Completely different situations
@@deliacozo8542dude almost couldn't walk again.
A foreshadow how Robby at his peak can beat Miguel 🤔
Any character that is close in skill to another has a chance to each other
Actually in this fight Robby wins.
And after these he was changing to beast mode. SS 4 Robby. 🥵🥵🥵
The moment when johnny realises he went too far and that cobra kai may not be the best after all is one of the best scenes in the series
This was the fight that would determine who the main character would be.
4:06 hawk face lol😂
3:31 miguel: no mercy *starts villanous music*
Hawk should be miguels brother and keen could be their cousins
If there is a season 6...i want Robby to win the All Valey or th Sekai Taikai
Me too! Hawk and Miguel already win.
@@chicledementaa well imma win again in s6 just watch
@@thegoatmigueldiaz lol
Johnny will root for his son
Miguel or Robby either one is fine but I'm more on Miguel's side lol
Miguel should've been disqualified after what he intentionally did to Robby's arm.
Most places give you a least one warning especially if he was acting like that the whole tournament
Bro give it up miguel won fairly
Its unsportmanlike conduct, warning then disqualification
@@Ajserpientehe pulled his arm when he showed mercy 😂 Robby won this fight
@@littlepenguinowo1819ts is dumb hes vulnerable atp how is he supposed to win
Back when Miguel had that dog in him. He’s still a beast but they had to nerf him so much
Only fight, to date, where Robby walked away seeming like he was honestly better than Miguel (and probably the last time, now that they had their "once and for all" in season 5), keeping up and gaining an edge with one arm, until Miguel took advantage of his sportsmanship.
Still not sure if the moral is going to be that "Zen" Robby is strongest Robby, or if the creators just plain ended up favoring Miguel.
S5 fight was so stupid, it's like they literally just wanted to humiliate Robby.
@@AliemaJones no they wanted to show that Miguel is the better fighter...
1:57 & 2:25 Robby is the main character, he tried to help Miguel up and the sore loser injured his arm. Then y’all wonder why they have beef, Miguel is a juvenile delinquent
Miguel is main character than Robby deepshit
Miguel is the main character sped
@@xnortheast1106no he’s not lil bro Johnny was the mc
@@MintyQuarterz no you ape miguel is the mc
@@xnortheast1106 lmao miguel and robby are considered to be equal, logically, statement wise and featwise. The main character is JOHNNY, not miguel, the son of main character is ROBBY. Writers say that robby and miguel are equal.
I know the latest seasons are fun to watch but to me nothing comes close to the first 2 seasons of this series. The characters were so much better written and the series had a grounded realness to it. Just my 2 cents.
cobra kai never dies
Kreese and Silver would be impressed to see this Miguel
Robby Is Gonna Win The Sekai Takai Tournament.💯 2:59 to 3:07
🎉🎉🎉🎉
This whole tournament was literally the same as the KK1
1. Daniel and Johnny are fighting over a girl just like Miguel and Robby
2. Miguel used the crane kick to defeat the opponent
3. Johnny and Miguel faced a real skilled opponent
4. Bobby injured Daniel, Hawk injured Robby
5. Daniel heals Robby like Mr. Miyagi did to him
6. Kreese told Johnny to fight dirty and no mercy, just like Johnny did to Miguel
7. Johnny cheats by sweeping the leg, Miguel cheats by pulling the arm
Yeah basically story repeating itself, only difference is that cobra kai won the tournament this time.
0:25 I hate that Carmen has to be concerned because of Miguel’s reaction to Robby scoring one point.
Because of Johnny
the way they did s1 was perfect,what I mean is Daniel won against Johnny in 1984 and they want a cobra kai to win in the Same time showing that the miyagi do is better,like Robby was better in s1 but miguel won as the makes the season more perfect as it shows Robbys loyal less and respect and Miguel's trash behaviour
At the end, Hawk's Face😂
Ik miguel is the fan favorite and is like more than Robby but let’s remember Miguel started the rivalry when they met at the party and tried to hit him when he was defending Sam and then in the tournament he fought with honor and after he knocked him down he tried to help him up only for Miguel to hurt his arm even worse Robby didn’t get bad until the episode where Miguel turned in the necklace and Robby didn’t tell Sam I’m glad they are friends and like brothers and season 5 but they could’ve been from the start no matter how jealous Robby was of Miguel’s relationship with his dad he didn’t start this long rivalry
Facts I don’t like Miguel he annoys me sometimes
Agree. But no Miguel fans will admit that. Lol
robby started the hate qhen he saw miguel hugging his father. then he is with sam at a party. he says to sam : is this yout bf? which means he doesnt like the guy (miguel) miguel is justified
@@xenisty4829did he do something against Miguel tho?
Miguel started everything and Robby gets all the hate because he is the one who is "bad".
All valley champ, undefeated, future sekai taikai champ.
THE GOAT.
They've both came a long way
2:26 is the best thing that I ever watched. Superb choreography.
This kick is really beautiful.
I don’t care what anyone says Robby was the superior fighter in season 1. The way he was able to clear his mind and keep that balance made him a better fighter than Miguel who was fighting out of anger. I’m 100% sure if Robby wasn’t injured he would’ve won.
I'm on team Miguel but yeah I agree with you here. Robby > Miguel for s1
I like Miguel than Robby.
But it's true
Robby S1 > Miguel S1
Robby doing well in this fight despite being DOES NOT prove he was better. It’s pretty nonsensical
@@gjjijji Miguel couldn’t score an actual point without hurting Robby’s arm. If robby wasn’t hurt he would’ve beat Miguel.
@Dinetion lame excuse. The entire point of cobra kais fighting style is to use your anger and aggression on people. If anything it helps him out.
Hawks face 😂
And yet, it was in the first season that Robbie was stronger as a fighter (including this fight), Miguel defeated him dishonestly, this victory cannot be called fair. That's how Lawrence earned his two points against LaRusso in 1984, but LaRusso was able to finish the fight with an injury and Robbie was not. That makes all the difference. In this fight I am proud of Robbie, even with one hand he turned out to be stronger as a fighter, let's be honest.
Robby is not the stronger fighter Miguel is. How did Miguel defeat him dishonestly
@@gjjijji What? He had an injury and Miguel took advantage of it, what is the storyline between Miguel, Hawk and Johny about, what are you talking about? In this fight, Robbie was stronger as a fighter and he earned his points with an injury, while Miguel earned them by attacking the injured area.Calm down, no one said that Miguel is weaker NOW, lol. Lawrence himself tells Miguel in this fight that he needs a victory, but a fair one, without a dirty fight.
@@gjjijji Every time he got a point, Miguel attacked Robbie's shoulder >> you ask where he won fair. Lol. At the same time, Robbie received both points while injured; he also went up to Miguel to lift him, and he pulled his injured arm xDD Go to the ophthalmologist, your love for Miguel has overshadowed your reality, you don’t even understand what people are writing to you about. To give you even more truth about the world - I am not a fan of Miguel or Robbie at all. I judge specifically from this fight, the first point Robbie received was in a fair fight, when Miguel had not yet attacked the shoulder. After this, Miguel always hit the shoulder and tells Lawrence that he knows about Robbie's injured shoulder.
That moment johnny Realize that he creats a monster then in season 2 he told miguel his true feeling
4 times, he hitted his injured sholder for 4 times
And I think illegal contact ones once
@@exljpze3 the contact wasn’t illegal. It’s an injured spot but you can still get a point for hitting them
@@sadsadasdd3328 true but it should still be disqualification for hitting the spot on purpose
And he wanted to step on it too, i mean he could've kicked him in the face, earning a point but no, Miguel wanted to hurt Robby.
I didn’t even realize how weak Miguel was compared to Robby since the show started. It’s nice to see Robby beat Miguel for real in Season 6
2:41 miguel fans watch this
Robby did way worse when he caught Miguel off guard and kicked him over the railing after being spared, almost killed him and ran away.
@@pedrosoares2582 he didnt mean to kick him off the roof did he but miguel meant this
@@dj4rt1808 Still did it, and ran away like a coward without even checking if he was alive, not to mention that he taunted Miguel at S4 with that, and don't forget that he tried to punch Miguel at S3 when he just got out of his coma and barely started to recover, were those unintentionally assaults too?
@@pedrosoares2582 ok lets talk about all things miguel did to robby, kissed his girl TWICE, insulted his relationship with his father, attacked him when he was breaking up the fight, pushed him on the floor before he even knew who was
ok? what does that prove?
Great show!!!!
Robby would have won this fight if he wasn't injured. This was the only season where Robby was better than Miguel. Also the two legged leg part was the best part of the fight.
S1,S3 AND S4 ROBBY>>>MIGUEL
No Robby was above Miguel in seasons 1,3,4, and 6
Nope Robby was only better in S3
@gjjijji
No,
- In season 1, Robby is the better fighter (Robby with one arm was able to keep up with Miguel, Robby with both arms would be above Miguel)
- In season 3 Robby is the better fighter (Miguel was in a wheelchair for 90% of the season)
- In season 4 Robby is the better fighter (Robby overpowered Miguel by chucking him into the pool)
- In season 6 Robby is the better fighter (When both focused, Robby beat Miguel in a fight fair and square)
@@imtiyazyasir23 question is a 3 points system accurate in accessing who a better fighter than who?
4:00 I love how Johnny is just like 😮 and hawks like 😐
Bro hawks facial expressions are super cool 😂😎🔥💯🥶
Robby could win if Miguel didn't play dirty
Yh we know, Miguel kept hitting Robbys dislocated shoulder, if Miguel didn't do that, Robby would have won since he was able to keep up with Miguel with one arm
@@imtiyazyasir23 literally Miguel was losing before that he always find a way to win ez like in school he tried to break his arm he is a little coward rat why would u break an arm in a real fight? Bc you are not at the same lvl and u want to win ez
@@imtiyazyasir23then how did Miguel overpower Robby in S2
@gjjijji
that's season 2, in season 2, Miguel was the better fighter but in season 1, Robby was the better fighter
@@Light-nq4rfso y was miguel able to overpower robby in the school fight and in the season 5 fight? miguel just stronger after S1 by a good margin and he beat a stronger robby twice
robby shouldn’t have let miguel get him in an armlock😂it’s only 2 ways to end a fight, knock someone out or put them in a submission move
i agree robby would’ve won but miguel got stronger after that
the cinematics got better, karate got bettee
I like how he was the antagonistic one and won anyway.
Good subversion. Just cause you're justified doesn't mean you come out on top.
William Zabka is a much better actor than the scripts he's had in the past have let him be. You can see his concern as the fight evolves is two-fold: He is personally worried about Robbie, which is pretty normal for a parent, but he's also realizing that he's done to his students just what Kreese did to him. His "My God, what have I done?" look needs no dialog.
I feel bad for robby he’s always second place
Robby should remember This guy cause this is the guy i want in part 3