NVIDIA, The AI Hype, and a Changing Investing Landscape | Global Macro 67

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • Aswath Damodaran, Professor of Finance at NYU Stern and a leading expert on valuation and corporate finance joins Alan Dunne in this episode for a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion on current markets and investing in general. They explore why Aswath believes we have witnessed the death of old-school value investing and how structural shifts in the economy have fundamentally altered the investing landscape. The discussion delves into the valuation of Nvidia and the Mag 7, questioning whether the hype around AI is justified. Aswath outlines his approach for long-term valuation, explains how he estimates the equity risk premium, and discusses what the current equity risk premium suggests for long-term equity market returns. They also cover the importance of bond yields for valuation, the shortcomings of P/E as a valuation measure, and whether assets without cash flows, like gold and crypto, can be valued. The episode wraps up with Aswath’s advice for becoming a better investor and preparing for an AI-driven future.
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    Episode TimeStamps:
    02:18 - Introduction to Aswath Damodaran
    03:30 - Nvidia - bullish or bearish?
    04:47 - How AI will impact the economy
    10:48 - How to make better valuations in AI and technology stocks
    14:36 - How to distinguish AI stocks from each other
    17:58 - A sticky market
    22:40 - How should you act to the AI boom as an investor?
    31:07 - Are value investor becoming obsolete?
    35:49 - What is the equity risk premium?
    40:28 - How much equity risk premium is enough?
    45:08 - Dealing with macro shocks and timing the markets
    50:01 - Inflation and its impact on stocks
    51:51 - Don't rely on the P/E ratio alone
    53:08 - The link between GDP and earnings
    54:31 - The importance of investing globally
    57:35 - Can assets with no cash flows be valued?
    58:27 - Managing the risk
    01:01:56 - Advice for other investors
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 45

  • @auboisdaline
    @auboisdaline День тому +320

    Honestly, this situation makes me uneasy, especially with the potential depression, not just a recession. I'm not sure about my $130K investment strategy given the economic uncertainty.

    • @AmeliaAndersonCortez
      @AmeliaAndersonCortez День тому +2

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      @RebelMusic666 День тому +1

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      @muizdh День тому +1

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  • @gingerkilkus
    @gingerkilkus 21 день тому +124

    AI stocks will dominate 2024. Why I prefer NVIDIA is that they are better placed to maintain long term growth potential, and provide a platform for other AI companies. I know someone who has made more than 200% from NVIDIA. I'll also take any other recommendations you make.

    • @LucasBenjamin-hv7sk
      @LucasBenjamin-hv7sk 21 день тому +4

      I think the next big thing will be A.I. For enduring growth akin to META, it's vital to avoid impulsive decisions driven by short-term fluctuations. Prioritize patience and a long-term perspective consider financial advisory for informed buying and selling decisions.

    • @AbhishekSharma-pv6ok
      @AbhishekSharma-pv6ok 17 днів тому

      Ai is a bubble it has to burst. and byproduct of optimism.

    • @1955knv
      @1955knv 10 днів тому

      Aswin Damodharan at current price sitting with CAGR of 75% (Bought at 2.70 dollars per share , holding for 7 years, current price 120 dollars)

  • @willp1653
    @willp1653 Місяць тому +6

    Absolute gold! Found this podcast with low expectation but this conversation was amazing. Mr. Damodaran has very real market wisdom. He teaches how to think rather than to get lost in the minutiae of tactical details.

  • @kortyEdna825
    @kortyEdna825 20 днів тому +6

    I've owned NVDA for over 8 years. It's been up and down, but I believe in Jensen Huang and will stick with NVDA until Jensen says otherwise. I know that sounds crazy, but when the financial statements/Jensen, (same to me) tell me to sell, I will. I'm sure I won't sell at the top, but that's OK.

    • @NicholasHarmon-ow3jl
      @NicholasHarmon-ow3jl 20 днів тому +3

      Kept $105k in CIT Bank HYSA at 5.05% but i now plan to invest in the stock market. What are your thoughts on that? What stocks should I look out for as a newbie to safely grow my money?

  • @Christopher.Capital
    @Christopher.Capital Місяць тому +3

    I'm surprised this channel doesn't have 100k's or a million subs... such an undervalued channel, thank you for all that you bring to us

  • @bruceaulabaugh
    @bruceaulabaugh Місяць тому +2

    A truly fantastic discussion. The best interview with Aswath that I've come across. Well done guys.

  • @3377ftw
    @3377ftw Місяць тому +3

    One of your best episodes to date

  • @stephenh4939
    @stephenh4939 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent. One of the most thought provoking discussions I have heard in a long time

  • @HectorYague
    @HectorYague Місяць тому +1

    Tons of common sense gold nuggets in this conversation. Loved it!

  • @31128
    @31128 18 днів тому +2

    He seemed pretty adversarial the whole conversation. Like even the first question the interviewer couldn't get out before he went on a bit of a tirade. Interesting points though.

  • @ReedZaydan
    @ReedZaydan 16 днів тому

    This conversation is Gold! Pls create more. Thank you both!

  • @gregoryswanepoel6328
    @gregoryswanepoel6328 5 днів тому

    Aswath an insightful genius...Alan a fool asking mundane irrelevant expectational questions

  • @Christopher.Capital
    @Christopher.Capital Місяць тому +3

    One of my favorites

  • @NattyLegend1
    @NattyLegend1 21 день тому +2

    Aswath is out for lunch, what kind of value investors are shorting companies?

  • @karnatipraveen2607
    @karnatipraveen2607 Місяць тому +1

    Super as always....

  • @paragawaken
    @paragawaken Місяць тому +1

    Great insight

  • @vizply2986
    @vizply2986 29 днів тому +1

    this is gold

  • @LovemyGTI
    @LovemyGTI 24 дні тому +2

    “Read less, think more”

  • @InsightWeaver-ry5tj
    @InsightWeaver-ry5tj 4 дні тому

    Some feedback for the interviewer, there was no need to interrupt the professor while he was giving a response.. don’t try to fit everyone into your version of reality

  • @joyalpatel1031
    @joyalpatel1031 9 днів тому +1

    Guys Pin this interview on your channel. This one is a 💎

  • @kunverjihirani276
    @kunverjihirani276 Місяць тому +1

    🙏😊👍

  • @ReedZaydan
    @ReedZaydan 16 днів тому

    “ If all you do is mechanical stuff, a bot will do it much better than you can “

  • @michaelbennett5568
    @michaelbennett5568 3 дні тому

    And at the right price, you should be willing to sell that stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jackbailey7037
    @jackbailey7037 Місяць тому

    How many finance professors have billionaires?

    • @sebfox2194
      @sebfox2194 23 дні тому

      How do you have a billionaire?

    • @user-bu2tc4tu3s
      @user-bu2tc4tu3s 20 днів тому

      It is a valid argument. However without some finance professors at least, would the billionaires be billionaires considering most of the wealth is nowadays in market cap which is determined by metrices that are codified in part by finance professors and the regulator?

  • @brianbirnbaum9760
    @brianbirnbaum9760 24 дні тому +3

    Aswath is also not asking the right questions. If a company spends $500m on AI and it saves them $1B, that is value accretive. AI is FAR more than computing and data. It requires an interplay of two that is extremely difficult to build.
    He’s being as lazily “bearish” as he claims at the outset not to be. Palantir has already proven an ability to do this or it would not be exploding. This is his MO: he sounds very smart-like most bears-by constantly being skeptical where others are optimistic. It’s not very nuanced, and he’s not saying anything about where we’re going. If you listen to him you’d think the economy is pretty much what it was twenty years ago.
    The question isn’t whether it will drive the economy as much as increasing productivity. Anyone who doesn’t see that is a fool.
    AI will be nothing like the internet outside cherry picking parallels. This is the biggest technological revolution to hit humankind. Period. If you don’t think so you don’t understand AI. Thinking it’s a buzzword is ignorant.
    In that same vein he’s not even seeing Nvidia’s push into software-which is where the money is for AI. Nvidia knows that. Palantir knows that. Building the algorithms is the market of the future. The ability to turn AI into ROI and efficiency and resources and productivity-that’s the AI market. Thinking that won’t be $3-$4T is laughable.

    • @dprankypd
      @dprankypd 19 днів тому

      What's your argument? That Nvidia will become a dominant player in the AI Software market? He addresses this very point when he says that Nvidia's current valuation bakes in the expectation that it will conquer another market beyond the chip market. This is purely speculative investing and unlikely to end well.
      Also, when you talk about Nvidia's customers spending you're missing that the trajectory of the spend and the saving looks very different, as the infrastructure spend is pulled-forward.
      Maybe you should have an open mind and try to understand Aswath's points. Otherwise, have fun when the valuations come back to earth.

    • @31128
      @31128 18 днів тому

      Agreed. Frankly, given he's an NVDA shareholder, his pessimism on NVDA is odd.
      When NVDA hit 90 a few weeks ago, it was trading at 25x 2025 earnings, discounting Jesse's sandbag guidance. Im sorry but that is cheap. NVDA is not "priced for perfection" , it's undervalued by anyone who has properly studied it.
      If you want to hear some talk about AI properly, check out Eric Schmit, Google;s ex CEO.

    • @revl6151
      @revl6151 12 днів тому

      It's more so that the implication of future potential being pulled forward into today's valuations
      I'm also not very convinced the impact of AI will have much more of a significant effect beyond the advent of the PC or the Internet

    • @brianbirnbaum9760
      @brianbirnbaum9760 5 днів тому

      @@revl6151 What you’re saying makes little sense. The advent of the PC and internet were absolutely massive game changers. So if AI is on par with either, the market is vastly underestimating their impact.

  • @mindcache5650
    @mindcache5650 Місяць тому +1

    Far too much talk about AI and not enough about super accelerated computing with chips that are 10,000x faster on everyone’s desk.