It's refreshing to see someone not asking for subs on a channel sharing content that isn't theirs. Like, subscribe for what? You don't make content 😅 some people, man.. Anyway, appreciate you! Have a good one.
Considering current sheldon still thought his father cheated on his mother (even after he died) :( it was never made clear. Either that or sheldon was too stubborn to accept it.
The writers realized that Georges character is so loved by us viewers that they had this genius idea of making sheldons mother roleplay, so Sheldon only assumed he cheated. They really did that to not ruin the imagine of the character, brilliant.
I thought they would go this route. Having the mother roleplay as a blonde means he may have thought it's next door neighbour. As a religious prude, Mary is not going to correct Sheldon. Also, If Mary was unaware of Sheldon's presence, she would believe the cheating based on George's previous history and not put 2+2 and think the other woman was her. If George dies soon after, she doesn't equate the other woman as being her roleplaying, so she actually does believe he cheated on her based on Sheldons story
@MKVlogs-oo7tw doesn't fit at all. The only part that's is common to the story told on TBBT is sheldon walking on his father having sex with an unidentified woman. The rest was changed
@@capeto08 I just saw an old episode when Sheldon tells Penny, "My dad had an affair with a blonde barkeep." Yes, it had to be Rhonda, who else? But they decided to clean it up so that George wouldn't end up like an unlikable character.
But it does show us how a misunderstanding might have so tragically altered his view and relationship with his father that he could only see the relationship in the most negative light imaginable.
The difference between Sheldon as a dumb dude in his 20s then looking back after he became a father and realizing what his father was actually doing and saying and playing dumb at times...
Im beyond confused, it is very unlikely he was misremembered as Sheldon kept saying he has eidetic memory and he once said everything he says is the truth implying he never lies. Why is he protrayed very differently from what he described in BBT?
I mean he really is,He always acts and thinks he is the best around and everyone around is wrong, trash, and etc cause literally he mocks engineers for no reason and howards like they are monkeys who only just recently learned to use a wrench I mean the earth thing hate has a bit of justification cause who dfuq cares about rocks whereas arent engineers doing the designs of buildings and shet soo wtf? So yeah sheldon living in his own world is right in every way and aspect
I actually quite like this as a retcon! It greater emphasizes that Sheldon is emotionally vulnerable, tragically to the point that he never confronted his father about something that could’ve been cleared up rather easily.
@@danielpritchard510If we see Sheldon in TBBT and YS too he always seemed to me an unreliable source. His view of seeing things is not normal. If something is good for him, it's good else bad. He lacks emotional intelligence since the beginning.
I was so glad to see that the “other woman” was Mary!! He and Mary had become so sweet together and I just couldn’t bear the thought of him being unfaithful. I just wish Sheldon could have talked with his father. It’s a good lesson for us all.
And it makes sense that Mary is dressed up like an oktoberfest girl - she did just get back after a few months in Germany!! And from the back that blonde wig could look somewhat like Brenda's hair.
I stopped watching YS a while ago, but I am glad they found a way to get around the cheating thing, George was too good of a father to have it ruined that way.
So, what fixes the BBT scene that reveals the woman with whom George cheated bought Sheldon action figures to buy his affection. Are we supposed to believe he didn't recognize his own mother giving him action figures? The writers of YS seem to lack enough maturity to actually deal with canon in a straightforward way.
Both big bang their in my eyes crapped on the character, that he was wrong about everything he said happened to him, I think it would have been better and interesting if it was true, but people didn’t believe him because of who is, which is kind of realistic representation.
Nothing was actually retconned. The Whole Show of Young Sheldon was a flashback from Sheldon's perspective. Billy was meant to be a bully but in Sheldon's flashback, he's a brainless idiot. Makes sense right?
I've always theorized that Sheldon's father was not really that bad, and that his childhood memories are just warped because he tends to live in his own world
Exactly sheldon in big bang theory down plays his family constantly calls his brother a loser who sells tyres when reality is he's a extremely successful bussiness man with multiple stores
I loved BBT and never thought a “spinoff” would be more than a curiosity to me. I was in love with Young Sheldon from the very first episode and did in fact like it more than BBT as the seasons went on. ❤
Im so glad i found this clip. This redemtion of both parents helps so much. Mary is a piece of work too but this shows that she clearly was trying to work on the relationship with her husband. Im almost tempted to watch young sheldon now.
This was a super creative way to "change" the back story to fit what they had developed. Unlike anything disney touches where they just completely ignore it. Kudos to the writers
I wouldt call creating changing aspect of the original story @@baileycrombie2267 Creative woulde have been sticking to the original elements and pulling of the same results
Well actually I think the knocking three times was introduced by Sheldon later when lennard was dating the Korean spy and one knock wasn’t enough to let Lennard open the door as he was busy with Kim otherwise .. so Sheldon proceeded knocking further and right after three knocks lennard answered so I think in Sheldon’s head three knocks seemed the way to go for the rest of his life 😄 only in the later seasons the thing with his father cheating was the explanation for the knocking
This has been the theory since the beginning. And he did knock once. But he didn’t wait for an answer. In big band he does wait for answer or someone opens the door.
@@WSwarthunder Yeah it wasn't clear in the short with the way they wrote it so I get the misunderstanding. But it doesn't say that Mary cheated it says "It was Mary!" Not meaning that Mary cheated, but meaning that the "other woman" that led Sheldon to think that his father cheated was, in fact, Mary. Don't know if it's clear so I'll present it as an equation It was Mary! = Mary was "the other woman"
Bro when I heard that George cheated on Mary and scarred Sheldon, I was mad, especially since everyone talks about how great the father is, but im glad it is cleared up.
@@shadenox8164ur just a terrible person if u think a person of his character would suddenly cheat in his home house... Smh. Maybe ur the type of person who would do that to ur family... after over 6 years of George being a loving caring father he would never act like you.
@@rplenkers9240 Clever? In what world? Sure, Sheldon's been wrong before but this is a sitcom that's like 2 decades old. Changing that sad storyline into something so utterly brainless is mockworthy.
I do like what they did for Sheldon‘s dad in the show because we got so attached to George as a character for being a good dad. He’s trying his best even when he doesn’t fully understand things. But I don’t like the taking away Sheldon‘s character depth, and making it a misunderstanding when in reality, this traumatized him and explained a lot of his behaviours when he was an adult. In Big Bang theory, Sheldon loved his dad, but had a very complex relationship with him because George in Big Bang theory was not the best father to Sheldon. He didn’t understand Sheldon and did get frustrated with Sheldon easily and in the show Mary (older) did call George a cheater, and said, while she did love him and honoured him as her husband, she and him did not have the best relationship as a result of his infidelity and some of his behaviours towards the kids. He was meant to be the standard Texan man in the 80s. At this point, I’m starting to think of young Sheldon as an entirely separate show that has taken away a lot of Sheldon‘s actual backstory from the show in order to make it into something that is more digestible and shows more functional, but loving family, as opposed to the complex nature of adult Sheldon Childhood traumas reflecting in him as an adult. I think that the young Sheldon writers are choosing to ignore some of the times that adult Sheldon would actually break and talk about his childhood and would say what his dad would say to him and some of those things were not nice and truly hurt Sheldon.
This also could be a matter of perspective. The stories Sheldon tells are through his eyes, and he doesn't view the world the same way most people do, so the stories we hear in TBBT are warped by his perception, while YS shows them how they actually were. I can definitely believe, with how awkward talking to Sheldon seems to be in both shows, George tried to give him helpful words of encouragement, but Sheldon viewed them as hurtful and traumatic. Or it could just be YS writers retconning TBBT to make George a good father figure for a fun and entertaining show, rather than what would have probably ended up more of an upsetting and traumatic show that wouldn't have been as successful. I don't think anyone would want to watch George get drunk and verbally (and possibly physically) abuse Sheldon and his other kids.
It's crazy how the show young sheldon shows the reality of the story of Sheldon growing up instead of us just having his version of things. It's obvious Sheldon being Sheldon sees things only his way, like how he said his brother would bully him all the time when most of the actions his brother took was to care for and look out for him. Or how he painted out his father in various references then we get to see the other side. In big bang theory were always shown Sheldon over exaggerates things to suit his narrative and understanding whether it's for his ego or otherwise. This show builds on that.
Mary literally supported a lot of those comments, like him being a drunk and a cheater. This just isn't the same continuity because they wanted to make it lighter.
In the last TBBT episode Sheldon gets congratulation messages from his brother's two different ex wifes. I know, I dig Mandy and Georgie too, but it is not a seperate series, it's a spin off, I really hate the rewriting of the history
@@shadenox8164umm... lmfao. Same character. Same incident. Sheldon just did not realize it was his mother with his father. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?...🤔🤨🤨
Nope. Because at this point YS and TBBT aren't the same continuity. At this point even Mary's stories about George are wrong, you think she would have talked like that if he was actually like this?
@@AzureKyle i told my son a long time ago that he needs to knock before entering as a part time single dad for the same reason he needs me to knock, with a look that says i know what goes on in there. i do it too.
The fact that they tried to redeem his father is sad. Him cheating played a role on Sheldon’s life and to take it away is pathetic. God forbid a prequel stays on script.
This was brilliant writing. Ps. Sheldon 20 years later will peep through the window with Howard in the car and see Mary having relations on the couch. HA!!!!! 😂
This is a really brilliant way to retcon a story! They don't pretend it never happened, they find a way to explain why and how the "wrong" information came to be in the first place!
While I agree that this is greatly written, at this point the writers are just changing the story to keep the viewers watching. It's stated in TBBT by Sheldon that one of the people George sleeps with tried to buy his love with toys and comic books. There are slot of major plot points that have either been skipped or changed to preserve the ratings.
@@shadenox8164 ugh forgot about that, that makes it even worse. Unless they are just trying to imply Mary assumed George cheated with the neighbor even though he technically didn’t (kind of an emotional affair tho)
After 7 seasons with this character I would do some writing acrobatics too to keep this character like he is portrayed. Kind of like how George RR Martin kept wanting to kill off Tyrian Lannister, but liked the character too much and kept his story going, or how Jesse was supposed to be killed off at the end of season 1 of Breaking Bad but him and Walt's chemistry was too good, or how in the show Chuck, "Captain Awesome" was supposed to be discovered to be a Russian Spy, but the writers liked his character's personality too much to make him turn traitor, arguably making for a better show.
A lot of people don’t realize this but these were changes they had to make. Hearing excerpts from “Tales of a Texas Genius” through a grown up Sheldon we could laugh at everything because “it all worked out in the end”. But seeing the decline of a marriage where the husband descends into alcoholism and cheating isn’t fun for anyone to watch and would’ve ruined the tone of the show. So they had to change how some things went so we could enjoy both the show and his father as a character.
"Fixed" is a bit strange here. There was nothing to "fix" regarding Sheldon's backstory. His character was shaped, in part, by his dad's infidelity. This isn't a plot hole or inconsistency. There's nothing to fix. Sheldon's dad was a decent, likable guy. Men like that sometimes have affairs. There's no contradiction there. Good people sometimes do bad things. I don't get this idea that good people can't ever be shown to have significant flaws or doing bad things, that in order to be "good", you have to always be good and never make bad decisions that have serious consequences. Sheldon's dad could be a man who was a good father and, for most of the marriage until he and his wife started to grow apart, a good husband, and still have had an affair. Good people sometimes do bad things. This wouldn't have ruined the character, it would have given him more depth.
I'm kind of sad they switched it up like that. Even tho Young Sheldon is a kid show, we knew since TBBT that Sheldons' father cheated. It was an important moment on the show and something that happens regularly in real life. A lot of people would have been able to relate to that. And it shows that good people mess up too.
@@genera1013 it's funny you mention a retcon yet can't admit they changed how it happened as well. Pretty certain Sheldon is going to remember correctly LOCKING EYES with his dad, as well as running to his room. And generally altering such things is to make it LESS traumatic, not worse.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Again. Trauma. Are you a psychologist? Our minds fool us all the time. Especially in cases of trauma. All you did in the first part was repeat yourself.
I hope it's the episode before last tbh that way it can lead into the final episode and end the show with Sheldon leaving for California as the show comes to its end though the actors for Older Sheldon and Amy are making an appearance since it will be the last ever episode.
@@shadenox8164 The character the wrote for Young Sheldon, may have issues with his marriage but his character didn't seem as if he would cheat on his wife. And the relationship with the neighbors was a friendship even if she made a pass at him. I don't think he would have taken her up on it. So yes I knew George wouldn't have cheated. Plus it was coming from Sheldon. You didn't know half the stuff going on in his home. He hadn't talked to Georgie in years.
The Big Bang description of Sheldon's family was not positive in the beginning of Big Bang before Young Sheldon came out. Was it even known that Sheldon was a twin before Young Sheldon came out? The original description of Gerorgie was that he was a criminal. These characters developed and for the better. Sheldon talked about his relationship with his grandfather in The Big Bang. He is barely mentioned in Young Sheldon, and it does not seem as if the young kids knew who he was. So things changed as they were developing the show. It seems like they gave Penny the family they were going to give Sheldon.
It wasn't just adult Sheldon that recalled his father's cheating... Mary on TBBT refer to George as her "cheating husband". The writers of YS certainly gave it's fans what they wanted though with this resolution.
Tbf with how she is she might have thought he was cheating on her with Brenda whenever he would hang out with her in the chicken coop venting his relationship issues with her like in the previous seasons, so she also could just be assuming he was when he never really did. Or worse case scenario she ends up cheating on him later on and instead starts projecting onto him that he's cheating when she is to justify it but I'd rather it just be the first one were its just a misunderstanding honestly.
People are complaining about this scene and I think it is BRILLIANT way to show that memories we sometimes have may be completely wrong from our point of view and not real at all. It was a really fun way to explain this situation and a good plot twist!
Ok, I'm not a regular viewer but I'm really glad they decided to work around this fact just to make his dad into a genuinely good guy. That shows how much writers care about the show and characters, and went on a limb to preserve the integrity of what they had created
I’m glad they didn’t ruin George’s character 🌸 he’s flawed just like everyone else but cheater no no no. Thanks to the makers for making this little correction for the viewers satisfaction 👏
Except he's not flawed, they went out of the way to sanitise one of his biggest flaws to appease people that can't handle a character being more than one thing.
Retcon is not fixing it. There's also a scene in BBT seasons before where Sheldon talked to Leonard about the disintegration of his parents' marriage and how his father took up with a bottle blonde who tried to buy his affection with action figures. So, even if someone buys into the scene of Mary in a blonde wing that totally looks fake and would've fallen off during sex, who was buying Sheldon action figures? Mary could've bleached her hair blonde and handed Sheldon action figures, and Sheldon would've still recognized it was his own mother giving them to him, therefore it *must* have been another woman with the action figures. This "Young Sheldon" scene is just a pathetic attempt by YS writers to whitewash George, like they've whitewashed much of BBT canon. But to me, since BBT was first, it is canon, and George was a rotten husband/father, and a cheater.
I feel there are too many shows that dont show good fathers, too many deadbeat dads that are drunks, absent, cheaters and just overal horrible people and most TV shows like this show dads who are not good rolemodels so it is a nice to see a genuine well written father figure who isnt perfect but does everything he can for his family
Honestly, I know it's a "cop out" that gives audiences a happy ending to that original story and it's basically fanservice because people really love George but I'm so happy they did this. We need all the feel good we can get.
I love that they found a way to fit it into the established lore, while using sheldon's complete lack of social knowledge to save George's character of a flawed man trying his best.
People often comment that it's sad that Sheldon would spend his life thinking his father cheated, but consider the fact that he is narrating Young Sheldon, in the form of writing his memoirs. That means that at some point following TBBT, he discovers the truth.
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Everyone missed the fact that Sheldon kept it gangster cause he ain't snitch on pops even tho he thought he cheated
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what season and episode was it?
This person has way too much time on their hands to be making videos like this.
They’re tv shows detective it’s not that deep.
Honestly it feels even sadder. Sheldon lived the rest of his life thinking his father cheated.
The season finale is said to clear this up.
I was just going to say that.
@@car998Hopefully.
@@car998Of TBBT or YS?
Considering current sheldon still thought his father cheated on his mother (even after he died) :( it was never made clear. Either that or sheldon was too stubborn to accept it.
The writers realized that Georges character is so loved by us viewers that they had this genius idea of making sheldons mother roleplay, so Sheldon only assumed he cheated.
They really did that to not ruin the imagine of the character, brilliant.
I thought they would go this route. Having the mother roleplay as a blonde means he may have thought it's next door neighbour. As a religious prude, Mary is not going to correct Sheldon. Also, If Mary was unaware of Sheldon's presence, she would believe the cheating based on George's previous history and not put 2+2 and think the other woman was her. If George dies soon after, she doesn't equate the other woman as being her roleplaying, so she actually does believe he cheated on her based on Sheldons story
I figured that happend anyways
Bravo Vince
Not really. They pussied out
But didn't George actually cheat on his wife with the whole chickens thing?
I love how the writers came up with the idea to clean up George's image before he passed away.
Is called bad retcon
@@capeto08its not bad
It fits with ys George to not cheat
@MKVlogs-oo7tw doesn't fit at all.
The only part that's is common to the story told on TBBT is sheldon walking on his father having sex with an unidentified woman. The rest was changed
@@capeto08 I just saw an old episode when Sheldon tells Penny, "My dad had an affair with a blonde barkeep." Yes, it had to be Rhonda, who else? But they decided to clean it up so that George wouldn't end up like an unlikable character.
it fits now. Boohoo too bad you're wrong lol@@capeto08
Sheldon's father is so VASTLY different from how he often described him on BBT, but honestly I love this version of him more
But it does show us how a misunderstanding might have so tragically altered his view and relationship with his father that he could only see the relationship in the most negative light imaginable.
The difference between Sheldon as a dumb dude in his 20s then looking back after he became a father and realizing what his father was actually doing and saying and playing dumb at times...
And THIS explains how that happened 😂 Sheldon is myopic. We were supposed to take all his stories with a grain of salt.
We all have a different versions of ourselves in someone else's eyes.
Im beyond confused, it is very unlikely he was misremembered as Sheldon kept saying he has eidetic memory and he once said everything he says is the truth implying he never lies. Why is he protrayed very differently from what he described in BBT?
This kind of proves that Sheldon really lives in his own reality
the point is he never discussed about this.this happens.
@@ghgkuhkjhkhhli Because in his head he knew what happened and it would be an uncomfortable conversation
I mean he really is,He always acts and thinks he is the best around and everyone around is wrong, trash, and etc cause literally he mocks engineers for no reason and howards like they are monkeys who only just recently learned to use a wrench I mean the earth thing hate has a bit of justification cause who dfuq cares about rocks whereas arent engineers doing the designs of buildings and shet soo wtf? So yeah sheldon living in his own world is right in every way and aspect
@@mikeruryuji1916that’s because I think apparently he has some type of condition
@@LuisPerez-5no he didn't he was wrong
I actually quite like this as a retcon! It greater emphasizes that Sheldon is emotionally vulnerable, tragically to the point that he never confronted his father about something that could’ve been cleared up rather easily.
Not a retcon cause Sheldon's been provin to be an unreliable source
@@danielpritchard510If we see Sheldon in TBBT and YS too he always seemed to me an unreliable source. His view of seeing things is not normal. If something is good for him, it's good else bad. He lacks emotional intelligence since the beginning.
No because it wasn’t spring break and Mary was fired from the church
Soo.... what would make this conversation easy lol
@@NewAdam-cc5wzwhat does bible study have anything to do with working for the church?
I was so glad to see that the “other woman” was Mary!! He and Mary had become so sweet together and I just couldn’t bear the thought of him being unfaithful. I just wish Sheldon could have talked with his father. It’s a good lesson for us all.
Fuck Mary. Worst character
Exactly! Especially when they were exchanging letters all I could think of was ohh noo he's supposed to be cheating on her soon
They changed that part because it didn't fit in with George's character in YS.
It would have fit with Brenda tbf I thought he was goi by o actually sleep with her because of all the emotional heating going on.
@@mufaddal2152 Yes, it did. They pussied out.
Basically Sheldon's version of "I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus"
And it makes sense that Mary is dressed up like an oktoberfest girl - she did just get back after a few months in Germany!! And from the back that blonde wig could look somewhat like Brenda's hair.
I stopped watching YS a while ago, but I am glad they found a way to get around the cheating thing, George was too good of a father to have it ruined that way.
It didn’t ruin lol it’s his wife they doin role-play
thats exactly why he is saying hes glad...
@@Joeljacob12445 Yes that's literally his point..
@@Joeljacob12445they did role play but if you watched or of young Sheldon George did cheat on Mary with Brenda
@whitneyrhodes9602 he should've have left her she was a horrible wife and terrible mother
I like how YS retconned how good George was as a father. Also outlines Sheldon’s emotional immaturity.
So, what fixes the BBT scene that reveals the woman with whom George cheated bought Sheldon action figures to buy his affection. Are we supposed to believe he didn't recognize his own mother giving him action figures? The writers of YS seem to lack enough maturity to actually deal with canon in a straightforward way.
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Both big bang their in my eyes crapped on the character, that he was wrong about everything he said happened to him, I think it would have been better and interesting if it was true, but people didn’t believe him because of who is, which is kind of realistic representation.
Nothing was actually retconned. The Whole Show of Young Sheldon was a flashback from Sheldon's perspective. Billy was meant to be a bully but in Sheldon's flashback, he's a brainless idiot. Makes sense right?
@@silkwind7618I don’t remember anyone calling Billy a bully
I've always theorized that Sheldon's father was not really that bad, and that his childhood memories are just warped because he tends to live in his own world
We never see the dog Sheldon talks about in TBBT, the 3 knocks didn't exist in season 1 of TBBT and George should already be dead in YS
Mary was also supposed to leave Sheldon in Germany during the storm
@@Umbzard No, the twins are 13 in the latest season. George dies when they're 14.
@@plumdutchess they're 13? They look and act around 15/16
Exactly sheldon in big bang theory down plays his family constantly calls his brother a loser who sells tyres when reality is he's a extremely successful bussiness man with multiple stores
It's crazy how much more entertaining I find Young Sheldon.
Not really, in a lot of ways, it is a superior show.
I loved BBT and never thought a “spinoff” would be more than a curiosity to me. I was in love with Young Sheldon from the very first episode and did in fact like it more than BBT as the seasons went on. ❤
Cause the main cast, besides Sheldon, are entertaining. Sheldon is annoying in it still, but not as bad as BBT.
Not really. I enjoy it way more then big bang theory because in young sheldon it felt like every episode truly matter
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Everyone else is what makes YS such an entertaining show. Sheldon just sours it for me whenever he's on screen.
Im so glad i found this clip. This redemtion of both parents helps so much. Mary is a piece of work too but this shows that she clearly was trying to work on the relationship with her husband.
Im almost tempted to watch young sheldon now.
You should. It’s a good show!
It’s Rlly good and emotion
This was a super creative way to "change" the back story to fit what they had developed. Unlike anything disney touches where they just completely ignore it. Kudos to the writers
they built up to this scene for 7 seasons just to cop out at the last second
Now retcons are called "super creative"? Huh
@@capeto08 the way that they pulled it off was, for a sitcom
I wouldt call creating changing aspect of the original story @@baileycrombie2267
Creative woulde have been sticking to the original elements and pulling of the same results
Dos nobody remember Mary telling Penny "good cooking" will jeep a man faithful but he'll die at 50?
Holy shit they managed to pull it off and NOT have George end up being the bad guy in a classic Sheldon misreading of a situation.
Nop
@@capeto08lol @ “Nop”
@@westmcgee9320??
@@capeto08 it’s not hard to figure out.
Look at what you said.
@@westmcgee9320 is not hard for you to explain whats did you found funny.
Awesome way of learning why Sheldon first created his compulsive but iconic door knock. 😆😆
Well actually I think the knocking three times was introduced by Sheldon later when lennard was dating the Korean spy and one knock wasn’t enough to let Lennard open the door as he was busy with Kim otherwise .. so Sheldon proceeded knocking further and right after three knocks lennard answered so I think in Sheldon’s head three knocks seemed the way to go for the rest of his life 😄 only in the later seasons the thing with his father cheating was the explanation for the knocking
@@rorylorelai1594he kept adding more and more knocks every time something like that happened I guess
I think they realized that George Sr had become such a beloved character that they needed to change it somehow.
So is this implying that the dad never cheated and the mom was just role-playing??
Yes
Fantastic
This has been the theory since the beginning. And he did knock once. But he didn’t wait for an answer. In big band he does wait for answer or someone opens the door.
@@albertelnen9144wait but what about Brenda and George? I thought he cheated with her? And how did Mary cheat then like the video said?
@@WSwarthunder Yeah it wasn't clear in the short with the way they wrote it so I get the misunderstanding. But it doesn't say that Mary cheated it says "It was Mary!" Not meaning that Mary cheated, but meaning that the "other woman" that led Sheldon to think that his father cheated was, in fact, Mary.
Don't know if it's clear so I'll present it as an equation
It was Mary! = Mary was "the other woman"
Bro when I heard that George cheated on Mary and scarred Sheldon, I was mad, especially since everyone talks about how great the father is, but im glad it is cleared up.
They just copped out.
@@shadenox8164ur just a terrible person if u think a person of his character would suddenly cheat in his home house...
Smh.
Maybe ur the type of person who would do that to ur family... after over 6 years of George being a loving caring father he would never act like you.
They played us so well 😂 with the neighbor and youth pastor last season
Next they're gonna tell us that George never died, that he was just "death" to Sheldon 😂
"Somehow, George Cooper returned...."
@@thebighoney9034 DB Cooper hahaha.
boy do I have news for you.. lol.
@@NaNa-cq8ck Do you?
This aged well
No but the relief I had when I realised George didn’t cheat was so satisfactory
Ik george would of never cheated he may not be a perfect husband but hes still a good man im gonna be sad when he dies
He is going to die in later year from the heart attack
Would have *
But what about the things he did with Brenda I mean he basically did cheat
@@shakariminor7106 did what
@@Fixer48he went to a bar to drink with Brenda with incitations of "dating" when he had his first non lethal Heart Attack
You can tell by George’s reaction to Mary in that costume that he wouldn’t cheat on her. He was READY! 😂
This makes so much sense 😂 George is too good of a father and husband to cheat on Mary.
Did u forget abt Brenda lmao
At this point, I see TBBT and Young Sheldon as different shows.
Umm... they are different shows.
But same characters appear in both. Do a DNA good job at keeping things making sense and going together just fine.
It's funny how the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon had different versions of George. Sheldon really lived in his own world.
There is still the dialog in TBBT where Sheldon mentioned about his father's gf giving him gifts
Its brenda, the neighbouring woman
George kinda took her on a date
Because his mom was wearing a wig, he may have thought it was Brenda.
He says that from then on he added extra knocks....but during the initial episodes of TBBT we see Sheldon using single knock.
I kept thinking it could've been Brenda, but damn that was the save we never expected...
I like how they made it so that George didn’t cheat , but the story that Sheldon told, he and his dad actually made eye contact
and .... if my son walked in on me and wife roleplaying but never saw the face of woman..........
Perhaps brown eye?
Writers are genius
Yes but no
Nah. Ruining the plotline of such an old show for kiddie viewers is a horrible idea.
I've been saying this for a few years. Maybe I gave them the idea.
@@afailedabortiontf you on about? Its a clever retcon and its not like Sheldon has never been wrong before anyway.
@@rplenkers9240 Clever? In what world? Sure, Sheldon's been wrong before but this is a sitcom that's like 2 decades old. Changing that sad storyline into something so utterly brainless is mockworthy.
I do like what they did for Sheldon‘s dad in the show because we got so attached to George as a character for being a good dad. He’s trying his best even when he doesn’t fully understand things. But I don’t like the taking away Sheldon‘s character depth, and making it a misunderstanding when in reality, this traumatized him and explained a lot of his behaviours when he was an adult. In Big Bang theory, Sheldon loved his dad, but had a very complex relationship with him because George in Big Bang theory was not the best father to Sheldon. He didn’t understand Sheldon and did get frustrated with Sheldon easily and in the show Mary (older) did call George a cheater, and said, while she did love him and honoured him as her husband, she and him did not have the best relationship as a result of his infidelity and some of his behaviours towards the kids. He was meant to be the standard Texan man in the 80s. At this point, I’m starting to think of young Sheldon as an entirely separate show that has taken away a lot of Sheldon‘s actual backstory from the show in order to make it into something that is more digestible and shows more functional, but loving family, as opposed to the complex nature of adult Sheldon Childhood traumas reflecting in him as an adult. I think that the young Sheldon writers are choosing to ignore some of the times that adult Sheldon would actually break and talk about his childhood and would say what his dad would say to him and some of those things were not nice and truly hurt Sheldon.
This also could be a matter of perspective. The stories Sheldon tells are through his eyes, and he doesn't view the world the same way most people do, so the stories we hear in TBBT are warped by his perception, while YS shows them how they actually were. I can definitely believe, with how awkward talking to Sheldon seems to be in both shows, George tried to give him helpful words of encouragement, but Sheldon viewed them as hurtful and traumatic.
Or it could just be YS writers retconning TBBT to make George a good father figure for a fun and entertaining show, rather than what would have probably ended up more of an upsetting and traumatic show that wouldn't have been as successful. I don't think anyone would want to watch George get drunk and verbally (and possibly physically) abuse Sheldon and his other kids.
Considering Mary never said George cheated and told Penny good cooking will "keep a man faithful but he'll die at 50," this would make sense.
She did? Multiple times.
They realized that fans like George. The writers didn’t want to break our hearts by making him a cheater. So they rewrote history.
It's crazy how the show young sheldon shows the reality of the story of Sheldon growing up instead of us just having his version of things. It's obvious Sheldon being Sheldon sees things only his way, like how he said his brother would bully him all the time when most of the actions his brother took was to care for and look out for him. Or how he painted out his father in various references then we get to see the other side. In big bang theory were always shown Sheldon over exaggerates things to suit his narrative and understanding whether it's for his ego or otherwise. This show builds on that.
Mary literally supported a lot of those comments, like him being a drunk and a cheater.
This just isn't the same continuity because they wanted to make it lighter.
Lol I'm not gonna lie George definitely didn't seem like the type to cheat but his death is wats gonna hit hard
Now they just gotta find a way to keep Georgie with Mandy
They did, Georgie now owns and runs the tire shop.
@@steveola760 Yes, but in TBBT, they said that Georgie had been married and divorced twice.
@@bobbuethe1477Hopefully that's Mandy and him going on again off again. For me, Young Sheldon is much better than TBBT and TBBT is pretty good.
They'll break up because he's too young. He will eventually marry someone else, divorce and get back and marry Mandy
In the last TBBT episode Sheldon gets congratulation messages from his brother's two different ex wifes. I know, I dig Mandy and Georgie too, but it is not a seperate series, it's a spin off, I really hate the rewriting of the history
i googled for the definition of "cop-out" and this video came up for some reason
O man ...sheldon thought his father was a cheater and he wasn't 😢.
Yes. Yes. Yes. George senior is innocent.
In YS he is, in TBBT he isn't.
@@shadenox8164umm... lmfao. Same character. Same incident. Sheldon just did not realize it was his mother with his father.
Why is that so difficult for you to understand?...🤔🤨🤨
@@Obelov then why does Mary keep saying george is a cheater in tbbt then? lol the writers just got scared of geroge stans
The fact that Sheldon never spoke of it to his mom and allow her to clear it up is saddening.
Mary literally calls him a cheating bastard.
@@shadenox8164 Based on Young Sheldon, we see that Mary has many cheating thoughts.
This makes sense in that Sheldon is so smart, but as a child, even he doesn’t understand what adults do sometimes
Sucks how sheldon never knew the truth and im surprised he didnt tell his mum that his dad cheated on her
These aren't the same canon anymore. Mary in TBBT confirmed cheating
So Sheldon's extra knocks are waste of time for years😂😂
Well, walking in on his parents-even if had realized that it was the two of them-might well have lead him to the same knocking system.
@@theadamabrams Exactly. As he says at the end of the clip, the extra knocks are to give people time to put their pants on.
@@theadamabrams maybe be not, if he realized it was his parents. Because there is not any intimacy there, it's just a role play is happening.
Nope. Because at this point YS and TBBT aren't the same continuity. At this point even Mary's stories about George are wrong, you think she would have talked like that if he was actually like this?
@@AzureKyle i told my son a long time ago that he needs to knock before entering as a part time single dad for the same reason he needs me to knock, with a look that says i know what goes on in there. i do it too.
I love that they made him NOT cheat ❤😂🎉
The fact that they tried to redeem his father is sad. Him cheating played a role on Sheldon’s life and to take it away is pathetic. God forbid a prequel stays on script.
This was brilliant writing.
Ps. Sheldon 20 years later will peep through the window with Howard in the car and see Mary having relations on the couch. HA!!!!! 😂
Uh no it wasn't? They just didn't want to do the harder plot and copped out
Oh my god! I called it! I knew it would be Mary with a wig!!
Me too! It was a reasonable explanation and he said he never talked about it, so no explanation.
I was sure it was Brenda
We all did. So happy it was Mary
I was leaning towards Paige's mom (Linda Swanson).
Yea 100 points for this decision. It's a light hearted show it doesn't need to become anything else.
I love so much that they fixed this. George was such a great character. I hated that the back story was so bad. They nailed it.
I knew that George cheating sounded like a regrettable storyline. Glad they retconned it
I was so glad they fixed it!! It would have hurt a lot if George actually cheated on Mary. ❤
They chickened out you mean.
This is a really brilliant way to retcon a story! They don't pretend it never happened, they find a way to explain why and how the "wrong" information came to be in the first place!
While I agree that this is greatly written, at this point the writers are just changing the story to keep the viewers watching. It's stated in TBBT by Sheldon that one of the people George sleeps with tried to buy his love with toys and comic books. There are slot of major plot points that have either been skipped or changed to preserve the ratings.
They would have been better off pretending it didn't happen. This was weak and just makes TBBT Mary a monster.
Sheldon lives in his own world he only sees things from his perspective and he thinks he is always right. It’s no shock he was wrong about this
Mary wearing a dirndl is something I didn't know I needed.
writers are cowards, too afraid to do something real so they just washed the story clean
So true. This is a stupid retcon
@@ssgg23 It also villianises TBBT Mary, because now she's lying about her dead husband?
@@shadenox8164 ugh forgot about that, that makes it even worse. Unless they are just trying to imply Mary assumed George cheated with the neighbor even though he technically didn’t (kind of an emotional affair tho)
After 7 seasons with this character I would do some writing acrobatics too to keep this character like he is portrayed. Kind of like how George RR Martin kept wanting to kill off Tyrian Lannister, but liked the character too much and kept his story going, or how Jesse was supposed to be killed off at the end of season 1 of Breaking Bad but him and Walt's chemistry was too good, or how in the show Chuck, "Captain Awesome" was supposed to be discovered to be a Russian Spy, but the writers liked his character's personality too much to make him turn traitor, arguably making for a better show.
A lot of people don’t realize this but these were changes they had to make. Hearing excerpts from “Tales of a Texas Genius” through a grown up Sheldon we could laugh at everything because “it all worked out in the end”. But seeing the decline of a marriage where the husband descends into alcoholism and cheating isn’t fun for anyone to watch and would’ve ruined the tone of the show. So they had to change how some things went so we could enjoy both the show and his father as a character.
Finally some clarity people .
She looks amazing with the wig
Bro IS so sad, George died and Sheldon Will always think he cheat his mother when he didnt.
In TBBT he did.
The amount of shit sheldon talked about his dad during TBBT makes zero sense when you watch Young Sheldon. It doesnt sound like his dad at all.
"Fixed" is a bit strange here. There was nothing to "fix" regarding Sheldon's backstory. His character was shaped, in part, by his dad's infidelity. This isn't a plot hole or inconsistency. There's nothing to fix.
Sheldon's dad was a decent, likable guy. Men like that sometimes have affairs. There's no contradiction there. Good people sometimes do bad things.
I don't get this idea that good people can't ever be shown to have significant flaws or doing bad things, that in order to be "good", you have to always be good and never make bad decisions that have serious consequences.
Sheldon's dad could be a man who was a good father and, for most of the marriage until he and his wife started to grow apart, a good husband, and still have had an affair.
Good people sometimes do bad things. This wouldn't have ruined the character, it would have given him more depth.
No one remembering when George met Tam and had to double check that his mom wasn't the woman he cheated with in Vietnam.
I'm kind of sad they switched it up like that. Even tho Young Sheldon is a kid show, we knew since TBBT that Sheldons' father cheated. It was an important moment on the show and something that happens regularly in real life. A lot of people would have been able to relate to that.
And it shows that good people mess up too.
A retcon and misunderstanding that actually makes sense? I didn't think it was possible!
I don't think it makes sense. He talks about how him and his father locked eyes. I believe he also stated he ran to his room, not ran outside lol.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Oh you mean a child subconsciously altering traumatic memories?
@@genera1013 it's funny you mention a retcon yet can't admit they changed how it happened as well.
Pretty certain Sheldon is going to remember correctly LOCKING EYES with his dad, as well as running to his room.
And generally altering such things is to make it LESS traumatic, not worse.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Again. Trauma. Are you a psychologist? Our minds fool us all the time. Especially in cases of trauma. All you did in the first part was repeat yourself.
@@genera1013 Are you one? No? Guess you can't make assumptions either.
Good job being a hypocrite.
A moment of silence for all the content creators who wasted their times putting sad music over that (BBT) scene
Because some writers years later changed it? Nah, that scene is sad, its pretty lame the writers couldn't follow through.
Thank God Sheldon learned his lesson: always knock
But George is dying soon.. 😭
i think they gonna end the season at a very emotional note💔
I hope it's the episode before last tbh that way it can lead into the final episode and end the show with Sheldon leaving for California as the show comes to its end though the actors for Older Sheldon and Amy are making an appearance since it will be the last ever episode.
@@LawfullSpook seems you know the script altogether😂👏🏻👏🏻
I knew Gerorge never cheated on Mary.
No you didn't you just wanted it to be true and they chickened out.
@@shadenox8164 The character the wrote for Young Sheldon, may have issues with his marriage but his character didn't seem as if he would cheat on his wife. And the relationship with the neighbors was a friendship even if she made a pass at him. I don't think he would have taken her up on it. So yes I knew George wouldn't have cheated. Plus it was coming from Sheldon. You didn't know half the stuff going on in his home. He hadn't talked to Georgie in years.
@@magoo9279 But Mary said that George cheated on her in "The Big Bang Theory". This is just a cop-out.
The Big Bang description of Sheldon's family was not positive in the beginning of Big Bang before Young Sheldon came out. Was it even known that Sheldon was a twin before Young Sheldon came out? The original description of Gerorgie was that he was a criminal. These characters developed and for the better. Sheldon talked about his relationship with his grandfather in The Big Bang. He is barely mentioned in Young Sheldon, and it does not seem as if the young kids knew who he was. So things changed as they were developing the show. It seems like they gave Penny the family they were going to give Sheldon.
@@magoo9279 In the Big Bang Theory, Sheldon said that he and his sister were twins in the first season.
There's a loophole to this. Sheldon once said his mom had some kind of talk with his brother's gf, and then he said with his dad's gf.
It just feels like they gave plot armor to fan favorites rather than honoring the show. Either way, kind of glad for this one.
I was so happy that George wasnt a rat bastard. I had been wondering how they were going to resolve that.
In TBBT he was.
I'm down with all retcons that reveal Sheldon to be a twit.
He really does not understand people and the complexities of relationships. I’m glad George was with Mary.
Next time, we will find out that Beverly Hifstader was actually a caring mother and that Leonard was also exaggerated his childhood
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No, because we have independent evidence of her being a bitch. And Leonard is a far more reliable reporter than Sheldon.
@@teencritik5512
I'm pretty sure we'd find out Stalin was really a great boss to work for before THAT happened.
😂
Thank god. I thought I was the only one who hates adult Sheldon.
It wasn't just adult Sheldon that recalled his father's cheating... Mary on TBBT refer to George as her "cheating husband". The writers of YS certainly gave it's fans what they wanted though with this resolution.
Tbf with how she is she might have thought he was cheating on her with Brenda whenever he would hang out with her in the chicken coop venting his relationship issues with her like in the previous seasons, so she also could just be assuming he was when he never really did.
Or worse case scenario she ends up cheating on him later on and instead starts projecting onto him that he's cheating when she is to justify it but I'd rather it just be the first one were its just a misunderstanding honestly.
I literally screamed when I realised what the writers were doing! They fixed it so perfectly!
They didn't? Because now Mary seems like a bitch for calling her dead husband a cheater?
PERFECT retcon
A logical reason that makes sense to change something. It doesnt ruin the story and makes it real.
Exactly!
@@ms.milliner Except it now makes future Mary seem extremely unreasonable? Talking about her cheating husband.
People are complaining about this scene and I think it is BRILLIANT way to show that memories we sometimes have may be completely wrong from our point of view and not real at all. It was a really fun way to explain this situation and a good plot twist!
Retcons don't fix previously established information, it just creates an inconsistency
Sheldon isn’t an idiot… I mean he is but Mary was in a German costume he didn’t know it was her
@@Romeo089 fine a costume of a stereotype of another race
I do like that all the bad things Sheldon says his dad did just turn out being him misunderstanding the situation.
Honestly it makes the impact hit even harder
Here’s the problem with that. His mother holds bible study ar home. So if she was at bible study she would be at home.
You know that he probably didn’t know that bible study is cancelled. You can cancel a session or two for certain reasons
Yes and no. Bible study could’ve been at the church as well, or it could’ve been at someone elses home
But in YS, Mary isn’t going to Bible study anymore.
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True. I guess these are two separate universes
Ok, I'm not a regular viewer but I'm really glad they decided to work around this fact just to make his dad into a genuinely good guy. That shows how much writers care about the show and characters, and went on a limb to preserve the integrity of what they had created
Except they didn't? Because they rewrote the character entirely?
And he respected his father's memory and didn't tell his mother
I’m glad they didn’t ruin George’s character 🌸 he’s flawed just like everyone else but cheater no no no. Thanks to the makers for making this little correction for the viewers satisfaction 👏
Except he's not flawed, they went out of the way to sanitise one of his biggest flaws to appease people that can't handle a character being more than one thing.
Retcon is not fixing it. There's also a scene in BBT seasons before where Sheldon talked to Leonard about the disintegration of his parents' marriage and how his father took up with a bottle blonde who tried to buy his affection with action figures. So, even if someone buys into the scene of Mary in a blonde wing that totally looks fake and would've fallen off during sex, who was buying Sheldon action figures? Mary could've bleached her hair blonde and handed Sheldon action figures, and Sheldon would've still recognized it was his own mother giving them to him, therefore it *must* have been another woman with the action figures. This "Young Sheldon" scene is just a pathetic attempt by YS writers to whitewash George, like they've whitewashed much of BBT canon. But to me, since BBT was first, it is canon, and George was a rotten husband/father, and a cheater.
I feel there are too many shows that dont show good fathers, too many deadbeat dads that are drunks, absent, cheaters and just overal horrible people and most TV shows like this show dads who are not good rolemodels so it is a nice to see a genuine well written father figure who isnt perfect but does everything he can for his family
It's a real shame that a simple misunderstanding forever ruined Sheldon's perception of his father
Honestly, I know it's a "cop out" that gives audiences a happy ending to that original story and it's basically fanservice because people really love George but I'm so happy they did this. We need all the feel good we can get.
I love that they found a way to fit it into the established lore, while using sheldon's complete lack of social knowledge to save George's character of a flawed man trying his best.
Except it destroys both Sheldon and Mary's characters. Also what flaws? They took away every single one of the ones they mentioned him having.
It still feels like they left Sheldon in a cliffhanger. So nothing's changed much.
I'm so happy they did this, I was hoping they would. I really liked George's character, but it's sad that Sheldon thought his father had cheated 😭
People often comment that it's sad that Sheldon would spend his life thinking his father cheated, but consider the fact that he is narrating Young Sheldon, in the form of writing his memoirs. That means that at some point following TBBT, he discovers the truth.
Exactly!
I never thought he did cheat. Even when he tells the story, it has holes. He saw and left. It was well written.
The series made me realize how Sheldon mostly exaggerated his past..
George didn't cheat, but he sure thought about it... a lot.