The Best And Worst of 2023

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @RaphaelSafr
    @RaphaelSafr Рік тому +49

    This is a very interesting video.
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @BraddPaisley
      @BraddPaisley Рік тому

      As a wrist watch enthusiast, I would like to have a larger share of my investment in luxury watches after my retirement.
      Any ideas ?

    • @BendyChoy
      @BendyChoy Рік тому

      ​It is always good to have a financial plan. I work with Chris Ryan Stewart as well,a professional planner and a fixed-income strategist in NY. the fixed-income portion of your portfolio won't simply serve as a buffer to the volatility of the equity portion of your portfolio but will provide legitimate income.

    • @BraddPaisley
      @BraddPaisley Рік тому

      ​How can I join in? I will be happy growing my money while giving a few of it away to charity giving back is a good as receiving

  • @keepleft
    @keepleft Рік тому +96

    Before i even START the video. I'm guessing CW is in there.

    • @kojiattwood
      @kojiattwood Рік тому +8

      Of course

    • @KeepingWatchUK
      @KeepingWatchUK Рік тому +21

      If only for their dreadful brand name. Decent watches all the same, don’t get me wrong.

    • @shaheerrahman87
      @shaheerrahman87 Рік тому +11

      The CW Twelve will make it to the best of the year list of every channel. Like the Bel Canto last year. They're on a roll!

    • @BAF605
      @BAF605 Рік тому +4

      Payola??

    • @leasetime65rat-g29
      @leasetime65rat-g29 Рік тому

      Safe 😂

  • @GrumblingForesight
    @GrumblingForesight Рік тому +53

    How could these gents be this productive while keeping their quality at the highest level is simply bewildering to me. These guys have replaced Top Gear as my weekly escapist joy.

  • @cheemomugdoo799
    @cheemomugdoo799 Рік тому +16

    The best part of this whole video is at the end when Andrew says, "Tom, you were also here", and Tom nods his head, as he fully accepted his role as an extra. Great stuff.

  • @snowashesfilm
    @snowashesfilm Рік тому +17

    I own the Studio Underd0g Watermelon, and I have to admit it is my favorite watch. I wear it everyday and it puts a smile on my face everytime.

    • @stupidocanerosa
      @stupidocanerosa Рік тому

      Fist bump, fella! Totally agree.

    • @efreutel
      @efreutel Рік тому

      Simply wonderful watch, ditto here.☺️

  • @zwerko
    @zwerko Рік тому +23

    The big loser this year has been Seiko. They are no longer the quintessential 'gateway drug' to watch collecting. Even die-hard fans are leaving them in droves over their limited lines and outrageously high prices (for what they are/offer) and there's no end in sight. I hope their gambit on moving a segment up (without really improving the value proposition) will pay for them long term, but I'm very doubtful...

    • @dhanu_4539
      @dhanu_4539 Рік тому +1

      I can't stand that 5 logo. it's like having cheap written on the dial.

    • @mrbinks76
      @mrbinks76 11 місяців тому

      What annoys me on top of the rising price of Seiko is their movement timing is not great. I have a SPB149 which I find good looking but the timing is just so off. They just take the same meh calibers and stick them in all sorts of price tiers and you really have to pay a lot to move a better movement.

  • @paulkukula6541
    @paulkukula6541 Рік тому +2

    Winners-All of us that love your videos.
    Thanks for entertaining us all year.
    Losers-Smart watch wearers. Each to their own,I suppose.
    Great year & great hobby.

  • @AbdulRWatches
    @AbdulRWatches Рік тому +11

    The Lyrique was the best watch development and buying experience, I have ever had.

    • @haiderraja8754
      @haiderraja8754 Рік тому +5

      I second that! Very proud of what we've accomplished. Agenhor, Voutilainen & Cattin, Metalem, Fiedler, Boucledor, Protexo and of course our leader the OG Bill Sanders as well as our wonderful designer Matthieu Allègre who put all the pieces into a beautiful harmony have all done a magnificent job! Best watch experience ever⌚️

  • @Goxilla
    @Goxilla Рік тому +15

    I own the mint green PRX and when I saw that Tissot launched the digital PRX I was kind of mad and when I saw the price I was laughing so hard.

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 Рік тому +1

      The Chronos a peach

    • @Goxilla
      @Goxilla Рік тому

      because it´s ridiculous to set the price close to the quarz version that offers a nice dial while the digital version looks like a cheap Casio with an 10 times more expensive bracelett@@Publius_Enigma

    • @michaelcompeau313
      @michaelcompeau313 Рік тому

      Haha! This year I found a pre-owned version of my first digital watch from 1976... A Fairchild Semiconductor 'Timeband' with identical case and dial aesthetics to the Digital Tissot... For $10 on eBay 😆😆🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @damienmoulton9797
    @damienmoulton9797 Рік тому +3

    Pure entertainment, thks. No wonder people aren't watching TV anymore. Best to all.

  • @Distorted-Vision
    @Distorted-Vision Рік тому +10

    Tissot PRX Digital must be worst release of the year.

  • @popezosimusthethird269
    @popezosimusthethird269 Рік тому +5

    About Chopard - while they have designed some good dressier pieces, a word about their microrotor movement : it's not all that fair to say it was "developped" by Chopard when really they just tweaked the old Universal Genève microrotor calibers once UG went bust (much like how Chronoswiss retooled everything they could from Enicar after they died) and in the previous generations it was very much for the worst as some brass ratchet wheels were "eaten" by steel claws in charge of the automatic winding transmission. Clever way to make sure the watch would break every five years or so and would need to be sent back to the factory since Chopard won't provide spare parts to third-party repairmen.
    Been there.
    Not fun seeing that you either have to send wherever when you are perfectly capable of doing everything else in the watch or find a way to rebuild an entire ratchet wheel.
    At least the current generation made that wheel out of steel, as it should have been from the start.

  • @Frantixj
    @Frantixj Рік тому +3

    My winner:
    - Christopher Ward, not just with the stunning Moonphase piece but also because they just seem to be growing in the right direction and I can't wait for their next projects.
    My loser:
    - Digital PRX. I think it's just an ugly miss and whoever approved it should be fired.

  • @jamesblonde2271
    @jamesblonde2271 Рік тому +2

    Yes the Lyrique! Saw one on Chrono for £40,000! Was on a live stream with Bill last night, he's a Don

  • @dughallaitken7783
    @dughallaitken7783 Рік тому

    Brilliant. Loved learning about Ward and Rexhepi

  • @dska2294
    @dska2294 11 місяців тому

    I wish that the watch community would talk more about breuget type 20 at all. That would’ve been a lovely alternative for many people from the Daytona. But instead all we ever hear about the moon watch. I happen to have all three and the brigade really is special. Would love to hear more content about that one.

  • @ollik8192
    @ollik8192 Рік тому +2

    Typically watches cost something around 6x the cost of producing them. The Lyrique Etude 1 would have cost around 50k+ to the buyer if produced with the traditional model.

  • @ThecrazyJH96
    @ThecrazyJH96 Рік тому +3

    Maen and Longines are big winners this year for me

  • @morganthedruid1
    @morganthedruid1 Рік тому +3

    The best thing this year was you guys got your faces on the channel, although that may have happened last year, not sure. But it's changed the whole experience for the better

  • @backwoods1732
    @backwoods1732 Рік тому +3

    I like several of the CW watches, however I think what Horage is doing movement wise is more exciting.

    • @ThecrazyJH96
      @ThecrazyJH96 Рік тому

      Only horage watch I like rn is the lensman 1.1

    • @bladem.d6029
      @bladem.d6029 Рік тому

      Very hard to support a watch that rhymes with “porridge” for those who can’t accent the second syllable :)

  • @danal9787
    @danal9787 Рік тому +1

    The Lyrique is gorgeous

  • @kfwimmer
    @kfwimmer Рік тому

    Great video! Well done!

  • @mondrayuk
    @mondrayuk Рік тому +4

    Entertaining as always. There are always winners and losers. All should not be taken seriously as watch collecting should remain a hobby.

  • @m0cca1997
    @m0cca1997 Рік тому

    Ordered the Watch Annual with this discount, two weeks ago. Nothing received despite shipping page saying despatch would be in two working days (that page has now been taken down). Reply received a week ago was that it would be despatched the next day, nothing happened. Beware.

  • @andoletube
    @andoletube Рік тому +5

    Rexhepi is the very definition of overpriced and overhyped. 1 million dollars for that? Are you freaking kidding me?

  • @ThecrazyJH96
    @ThecrazyJH96 Рік тому +2

    Dream watch is the Rolex date just in rhodium dial. Prices are alright now on the resale market, but I feel like if a recession does it then the prices will drop even more 😂

  • @paulszabo-davie8936
    @paulszabo-davie8936 Рік тому

    Interesting observations by all three of you. My own thoughts on current horological matters are to buy and support British made Watches.

  • @heisenbergguy7772
    @heisenbergguy7772 Рік тому +2

    You two Blokes are so funny!

    • @cpcallen
      @cpcallen Рік тому

      Ooo, ouch. Poor Tom!

  • @davidparrishproductions5082

    I love when I watch I could maybe afford makes it onto the loser list… makes me feel like I accomplished something by not getting it… even though I could legit maybe afford it

  • @heisenbergguy7772
    @heisenbergguy7772 Рік тому

    How’s the weather down under?

  • @animarku570
    @animarku570 Рік тому +1

    Rexhep Rexhepi 🔥 11:33, The ‘Xh’ in his name and surname is pronounced like ‘J’ in Joy

  • @perlago21
    @perlago21 11 місяців тому

    Im sorry but my English it’s not that good what is the name of the second watch brand after cw? I could not understand the pronunciation my apologies

  • @shaheerrahman87
    @shaheerrahman87 Рік тому +2

    Before I even start, CW 12 is the best and prx digital the worst 😅

  • @iR3vil4te
    @iR3vil4te Рік тому

    Anything on that beauuuuutiful Longines Diver or the Tag Glassbox???

  • @morgan97475
    @morgan97475 Рік тому

    Hhmm.....the only reason I have a Rolex in my wee collection is because Dad left it to me when he went to that Great Gig in the Sky. Otherwise, I doubt I'd ever get one.

  • @danielmelendez9943
    @danielmelendez9943 11 місяців тому

    Nothing wrong with CW watches, innovation, in theory they carry their own style well and they actually make you think about what Seiko and other manufacturers are putting in the market. Personally, feel they offer a lot of vakue for the price.

  • @GordonMoat
    @GordonMoat Рік тому

    Swatch should do a final version Dark Side of the Moonswatch.

  • @tommasocleopazzo
    @tommasocleopazzo Рік тому +1

    Great video (as always)!
    One thing you might want to do better next time: Ask your guests to not use the microphone of the Airpods but use any different microphone to not have the low-quality mono sound. Even just using the built-in laptop microphone will sound way better!
    The fact that Airpods or generally almost all bluetooth headsets switch back to the lower-quality audio profiles is appalling!

  • @ofmanynicknames
    @ofmanynicknames Рік тому +1

    The Watchfinder US East Coast Tour must surely be among the best things, right? 😃

  • @ABritishRefugeeinChina
    @ABritishRefugeeinChina 11 місяців тому

    Big loser for me this year was the new Zenith Pilot line. How unforgettable....

  • @jacklong9619
    @jacklong9619 Рік тому

    On the negative side: no talk about the TPG craziness?

  • @puck8434
    @puck8434 Рік тому

    I don’t see how the swatch collaboration is bad for Blancpain considering availability. Swatch won’t actually sell you one unless you plan to scalp it for close to the price of an actual 50 fathoms, same as what they did with the moon swatch. So it’s not a viable alternative.

  • @tomreding3784
    @tomreding3784 Рік тому

    that chopart reminds me of a baltic tho😅

  • @williamthomas6106
    @williamthomas6106 Рік тому +5

    Congratulations to Omega/Swatch for completely destroying my desire to purchase a Speedmaster. And they did so with their display of complete and utter arrogance/incompetence regarding the release of the MoonSwatch.
    Omega and their apologists went to great lengths to dish all over homage brands like Pagani Design, and then go and release their own "homage" swatch, that is worse in every single metric than the watch they poop all over.
    And to add insult to injury, they artificially limited supply of their happy meal toy, and allowed the secondary watch market to buy all the available watches and resell them at outrageous markup.
    And to really pour salt into our wounds they then artificially create rare "moonshine" additions to simply fuel the fire, instead of fixing the supply chain issues for good, and making the MoonSwatches widely available and online.
    One watch reviewer said that you could tell the difference between a real MoonSwatch and a fake AliBaba one, is by the fact that the fake is better built.
    That's pretty vicious, and true.

    • @shaverray4462
      @shaverray4462 Рік тому +1

      The counterpoint to your comment is that the Moonswatch has been, and continues to be, a huge sales success. It’s also resulted in a significant and sustained increase in sales of the Speedmaster itself. The punters have voted with their wallets.

    • @williamthomas6106
      @williamthomas6106 Рік тому

      @@shaverray4462 And the counterpoint to that, is that despite being a huge sales success, Omega/Swatch has demonstrated their utter contempt for their customers. They provided a cheaply made, joke of a watch and overcharged for it. They sold a ton, and eroded respect for their brand almost universally. There are almost no watch reviewers on UA-cam that can objectively say that the MoonSwatch is a "great" watch, let alone a "good" one.
      Compare that to Tissot, which produced the PRX, that provides surprising value for money. A watch that says you don't have to spend $1000's of dollars for a quality Swiss Made watch. They offered both a Mechanical and Quartz version. The priced both appropriately. Tissot didn't insult it's customers by manufacturing a toy and charging hundreds of dollars for it, And in doing so, gained an enormous following. I am not thrilled with the "digital" PRX, but hey. I don't have to buy one. And still, you can't argue that the digital PRX isn't well constructed. It does have that going for it.
      Admittedly Omega/Swatch is a sales success, and perhaps that's a reflection of the Lemming type mentality of a large swath of watch collectors.
      I'm happy they increased their bottom line.
      All this release did for me is convince me that I want nothing to do with either company. And while a Speedy was my grail watch, I have no interest in one at all now.

  • @ryangochuico
    @ryangochuico Рік тому

    Tag heuer is winning this year with the carrera releases
    Longines have great updates to existing models. Also a win.
    I'm the biggest loser for spending so much on "obsolete" products😂

  • @MrCireyenaled
    @MrCireyenaled Рік тому

    The new and already unavailable 150K-165k pound Gronefeld Grönograaf in tantalum.

  • @giorgosvasillios9394
    @giorgosvasillios9394 Рік тому

    11:40 "X" in Albanian is read similar to "J" in English

  • @sophdog1678
    @sophdog1678 Рік тому

    Never actually seen a Moonswatch, though the idea tickled me when it came out; but they could have done it all a lot better, kinda botched really.

  • @RodgerDodger196
    @RodgerDodger196 Рік тому

    THAT OUTSIDE GOLD BEZEL ON THAT ROLEX(gold face " get some of your money back"--QUESTION!! I HAVE SEEN THIS EXACT SAME GOLD BEZEL ON MANNNNNNNNNNNNY DIFFERENT --OTHER BRANDS-& NOTTTT JUST THIS ONE!! DO BEZELS GO OUT INTO THE WORLD FROM ONE SOURCE SO THAT OTHER CO. Can use them? Or does EVERYBODY JUST DO THEIR COPY? Like when the "Rabbit" car came out-everybody did their version. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE ONE GIANT BOX OF GOLD BEZELS ARE MADE AND EVERY OTHER COMPANY IS ALLOWED TO TAKE AN AMOUNT TO MAKE THEIR SLIGHT DIFFERENT STYLE WITH SAMMME BEZEL!!

  • @soundssimple1
    @soundssimple1 Рік тому

    So why is the Rolex pricing situation in the 'worst' section of discussion ? Surely a real good thing for buyers ?

  • @richie694
    @richie694 Рік тому

    Great content and insights. Why don’t you buy a Rolex in watch finder 😊

  • @verynormalman
    @verynormalman Рік тому +2

    All the usual candidates. Swatch has destroyed my desire to own a proper Speedmaster, and I went in to hold a plastic Blancpain, and I was so shocked. What was pile of......... disappointing plastic! Perhaps they could fool people in the boom times, but I predict a savage backlash, now we are living in more straightened times.

    • @AcmeRocket
      @AcmeRocket Рік тому

      If by savage backlash you mean, massive Swatch group profit margin, Then I agree.

    • @verynormalman
      @verynormalman Рік тому

      @@AcmeRocket We will see. I fear that they have damaged their IP in the long term. The Moon Swatch is utter rubbish. And ironically the Blancpain collaboration is much much worse. It's almost the exact opposite of what they have been building over the years. Mr Rocket, you are right that profits will be up.......BUT!

  • @wisamal-hakim5531
    @wisamal-hakim5531 Рік тому +1

    Rolex are by a country mile the big watch winners for 2023 as Justin said. The fact that they make money when any bucherer shop sells any watch like Longines, omega, Cartier or anyone else, is such a good move for them.
    Worst thing is for sellers who may have bought watches for a lot a year or two ago and decided to sell for a lot less. Not much sympathy though

  • @silvaanosvs8783
    @silvaanosvs8783 Рік тому

    Why does Andrew look a bit like the late great Neil Peart out of Rush? Is the title of their last album, "Clockwork Angels" really unrelated? 😱

  • @ddfann
    @ddfann Рік тому

    Interesting about Breguet, it’s not like the business has existed in perpetuity since the great man founded the business. It closed down and the Swiss bought it out years later for the name and IP. It’s cynical marketing, not long-standing tradition.

    • @shaverray4462
      @shaverray4462 Рік тому

      That’s not actually correct. Indeed after its direct family ownership Breguet was active and in the hands of the Brown family (not Swiss) for a century from 1870 to 1970 before it was bought by Chaumet (French). After that it was owned by Investcorp before being bought by the Swatch Group in 1999. Most historical brands change hands over time, there’s nothing cynical about it.

    • @ddfann
      @ddfann Рік тому

      @@shaverray4462 Are you saying the company never went bust and closed down all operations?

    • @spittinvenom9843
      @spittinvenom9843 Рік тому

      Breguet has lost its way ignoring their own traditions, this watch brand should be elite level

    • @shaverray4462
      @shaverray4462 Рік тому

      @@spittinvenom9843 True, they use Si balance springs, but ignoring their own traditions? Hardly. Top tier? If you’re talking about quality, they’re already there. Swatch just needs to market the brand properly.

  • @marvin-4814
    @marvin-4814 Рік тому

    I hope you’ll get a Rolex soon!

  • @modulo3664
    @modulo3664 Рік тому +1

    Not a single mention of Longines popping off?

  • @JonathanWFink
    @JonathanWFink 11 місяців тому

    Winners: Swatch Group, Christopher Ward...

  • @jpg6482
    @jpg6482 Рік тому

    Is this a copy of about Effing time with breguet - seems in vogue

  • @1GayMTBr
    @1GayMTBr Рік тому

    My mission to mars still works. I'll be a MoonSwatch hater when it breaks

  • @jiroyamada7983
    @jiroyamada7983 Рік тому

    Where Grand Seiko? With their tentaclegraph?

  • @ScreaminEmu
    @ScreaminEmu Рік тому +1

    LOL Tom's American accent... except he still says "tyoo-dor" like a Brit instead of "too-dor" like a real American ;)

  • @justinlouismusic
    @justinlouismusic Рік тому +4

    I liked the Studio Underg0d but overpriced! For less money I was able to buy a Hamilton, a field watch with heritage and a quality Swiss made calibre.

  • @DarrenBates
    @DarrenBates Рік тому

    I won't say booky wook because he's in trouble 💀💀💀

  • @soenketrzaska
    @soenketrzaska Рік тому +1

    Calling himself a looser because of not having a Rolex in his collection… 🤦‍♂️ really? 🥴

  • @thecianinator
    @thecianinator Рік тому

    10:13 😂😂 I am in hysterics
    Edit: oh my god I just looked up the ad and it's exactly like that, I just kept yelling oh my god shut up at my screen, I could stand the guy for about 60 seconds

  • @davidemarsu7098
    @davidemarsu7098 Рік тому

    17:40 I didn't see this ad before holy smoke what kind of cringe is that.

  • @sky37blue
    @sky37blue Рік тому +4

    For full disclosure, are Cristopher Ward paying you to talk about them all the time?

  • @MrNickMulgrave
    @MrNickMulgrave Рік тому

    The best thing to happen this year was that Rolex watches became more available and this led to grey market flippers taking a bath.

    • @spittinvenom9843
      @spittinvenom9843 Рік тому

      Where? I travelled all over Europe and was told the watches are display only by the salesman who works on commission to which I always asked, “guess you’re working free”?

    • @MrNickMulgrave
      @MrNickMulgrave Рік тому

      I bought 2 watches (Black Explorer 2 and Blue DateJust) within a month of each other in Australia @@spittinvenom9843

  • @sepcova30
    @sepcova30 Рік тому

    I wouldn't pay more than five dollars for a plastic Blancpain

  • @JohannesSebastian
    @JohannesSebastian Рік тому

    You say C. Ward belcanto is good value......why no say that EVERY other expensive watch brand i ripping rich people off?

  • @TomPlantagenet
    @TomPlantagenet Рік тому

    I don’t always wear watches, but when I do I prefer the Wasson Automatic Field Watch! Stay timely, my friends.

  • @markdance574
    @markdance574 Рік тому

    Tudor and Tudor fans are hilarious- if any other brand was to blatantly copy Rolex those Tudor fan boys would be screaming “ homage “ , bin it off , yet when Tudor do it , OMG it’s amazing it’s classy , it’s bold .
    Total Rubbish! People talk about hyped brands and from where I stand apart from its movements the designs are not getting my attention or money

  • @セイセイ-p5c
    @セイセイ-p5c Рік тому

    Not first

  • @sarries1
    @sarries1 Рік тому +1

    As someone whon only has limited knowledge of the watch industey can anyone explain why people still but Rolex when it seems that there customer seevice is terrible?There are so many other brands just as cool that you can actually buy.What actually makes rolex so desirable? Is it just the name?

    • @shugertits
      @shugertits Рік тому +2

      It's a safe investment. Simple as that. They seem to gain value more reliably than any other brand. It's complicated, and I don't fully understand why, myself. Rolex doesn't do a thing for me. In my opinion, they are boring and made exclusively for unimaginative deuchebags who want to signal their wealth.
      I could very well be wrong, but I think the, what?-60 year old bubble is bursting right now, as we speak.

    • @Newerasamearea
      @Newerasamearea Рік тому +2

      Branding. It's the only brand that Non watch enthusiasts value.

    • @bz8047
      @bz8047 Рік тому +1

      LOL, people don’t buy watches for customer service.

    • @spittinvenom9843
      @spittinvenom9843 Рік тому

      Status, that’s it. There are finer watches at better price points but you pay for the name aftermarket cause AD’s are f n prickly

  • @gabrielmo3133
    @gabrielmo3133 Рік тому

    With this new format you are not even close to your old wtchfinder format😢

  • @KostaPendarovski
    @KostaPendarovski Рік тому

    The name Rexhep is pronounced Redjep

    • @pushslice
      @pushslice Рік тому +2

      I pronounce it “got gypped”

  • @OliverCieri
    @OliverCieri Рік тому

    Winner: Tudor. Fully based on the Black bay 54.
    Loser: Omega. With Rolex prices coming down and Grand seiko having ”better” movements, there is no real place for Omega.

  • @mulemule
    @mulemule Рік тому

    *18:34** **_Zero_** snark intended: are there examples when leveraging a female clientele rescued/elevated an iconic watch brand?*

  • @iCrilleSwe
    @iCrilleSwe Рік тому +4

    I like the Tudor, but i can't stand the snowflake hands. Sorry!

  • @YukiTsunoda7
    @YukiTsunoda7 Рік тому

    *it is weird tho just how little tom actually knows about watches really shows in episodes like this one*

  • @warriorofsli
    @warriorofsli Рік тому

    first

    • @iCrilleSwe
      @iCrilleSwe Рік тому

      The 1990's called, even they don't want You back. 😉😁

  • @chiragnk602
    @chiragnk602 Рік тому +4

    This channel fell after they stopped making the old school watch videos with the b roll and background talk

    • @bz8047
      @bz8047 Рік тому +1

      That’s literally what this video is…?

  • @Dazulolwarrior
    @Dazulolwarrior Рік тому +1

    Bleh

  • @kennethgrisham9409
    @kennethgrisham9409 Рік тому

    Second lol