Nadal fans had always made excuses that Rafa lost this match because he was still young. Well, he was number 2. He had beaten Federer and other top players on hard court several times. You don't get to number 2 just on clay court wins alone. This is just a case of Fernando's forehand was too much for Nadal that day.
It wasnt only González fh, he always has that shot, but when his movement and specially bh were on point, he became another beast, sadly his bh inconsistency hampered his career to reach this level more often
This was the era where Fernando G was playing his most disciplined since he was being coach by Larry Stefanki which is probably the coach who improved all his players in ranking, results, and discipline. Larry Stefanki also coached McEnroe, Kafelnikov, Herman, Rios, Roddick who all achieved number 1 or their highest ranking with him. Nadal was in top movement but his skill set and accuracy still had not peaked. Overall more credit to Gonzalez than a Nadal blunder.
My tennis coach always reapeats serve is a vertical fh - the way I get it - it's a basic rule of geometry which makes it easier to learn in my case at least
If there was any indication how good Gonzos FH was, years ago a tennis show was doing a segment asking various players at the time "whos got the best (insert stroke) on tour?" They got to Forehands and practically everyone (berdych,roddick,Hewitt,ferrer and several other top 50 players) said either Federer or Nadal, when they asked Nadal and Federer they both said without hesitation "Fernando Gonzalez". And Djokovic also said "I think everyone saying Federer and Nadal have best forehands while understandable i think are overlooking Gonzalez ...... one thing the other players dont tell about Gonzalez and his FH ....... it actually inflicts pain on your arm over time, every time i played him my right arm felt like it was kicked by a horse"
I would take Federer's because the forehand of Gonzalez needs more space, particulary indoors. Still, this is an excerpt from an article written in late January 2007: "Speaking as he rushed to his charge's final major practice session before he plays Tommy Haas today for a berth in the Australian Open final, the coach was asked if he had seen a forehand like the young Chilean's. "No, he has the best forehand in the game," said Stefanki, who coached John McEnroe, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, Tim Henman, and guided another Chilean, Marcelo Rios, to the No.1 ranking. But he admitted there was one player who could match Gonzalez's stroke: "Lendl." That's the only one? "Yeah." Stefanki then remembered another forehand that warranted consideration. "Lendl, probably, and then … Federer. I think Federer and Lendl, those are the kind that sit in my mind. "Lendl … I mean, he had total control of the tennis ball on the forehand side, like Fernando has."
Fernando probably had the biggest forehand in history but definitely not the best. The best forehand in history(IMHO) is Federer as he created the modern forehand and could litterally do anything on that shot.
sorry...but Nadals FH is much more memorable. Power, topspin and more finesse than people think. The best FH, period. People tend to underrate Rogers FH because of his overall faboulous technique, it is close to Nadals in terms of quality, but Nadal is something else.
@@user-tc9fn9ux2u it is all very subjective and down to individual opinions. Rafa and Roger have the two best forehands,in history however whilst Rafa's forehand is amazing, it was mainly his crazy topspin and outrageous banana shots that made it so great. Rafa struggled to take the ball early on his FH however Fed could do it all on his forehand. He could take it early, angles, heavy spin, pace the whole lot. Rafa didn't have the total all-round forehand that Roger did, it was mainly his crazy cross courtspin that hurt opponents so much. Both great forehands along with Fernandos and lets not forget Delpos! Another underrated and forgotten FH is James Blakes. His forehand was huge!
Personally I think 3:14 was a tactical mistake. Going line when you’re beyond the tram lines is dangerous unless you’re attacking or catching you’re opponent off guard.
agreed, I think he was wanting more depth to pin Nadal in backhand corner to set up forehand, it landed short which then allowed Nadal to gain the positional advantage. The professionals exist in a world where depth is almost necessary unless using the short court to open up angles.
Gonzo’s FH could do much more that Del Potro’s. Del Potro might have had the heavier forehand, but Gonzalez had much more variety in his shots with his FH. Even then, Del Potro was a far more complete player than Gonzalez ever was.
@@dl3988 nailed it jk no Nadal's persistence paid off but that hyper topspin causes ball to bounce too high which I think keeps the rally alive longer than it needs to. Players nowadays or from Sempras era would crush those balls🤣
Forehands like djokovic, check... Net play like djokovic, check... Forgot how you call the smash move when you are on the net...He missed it just like djoko, check... Very consistent throughout...I can not stress enough how similar this was to djokovic playstyle
absolutly different styles. The forehand of Fernando Gonzalez has much, much more topspin that Novaks...and much more power. Remember that Novak does get the power from counterpouching most of the times. Novak has a great forehand, but it does not look like this. Net play is similar, but that is about it.
4HAND TOP 10 ( IMAO ) #1 Federer #2 Agassi #3 Nadal / Djokovic #4 Lendl / Sampras #5 Borg #6 Connors / Safin #7 Delpotro / Courier #8 Wilander / Becker #9 McEnroe / Gonzalez #10 Rios / Murray PS Gonzalez was a very good player just like a lotta gentleman like Monfils, Dimitrov, Haas, Philippoussis, Blake, Davidenko, Nalbandian, Gulbis, Almagro, Isner, Anderson who absolutely would have been able 2 win at least 1 Major if there hadn't been d Big three era which as a matter of fact prevent these awesome guys with monsta 4hand 2 fulfil their potential. Right?
You're out of your mind. Best FH ever. LMFAO its now 2:05 pm EST and I'll still be laughing around midnight about this! The best FH in the history of men's tennis and the greatest attacking weapon ever seen belongs to Federer period. So just stop. Delpo would be higher on this list than Gonzalez. Yes it was massive and when on almost uncontestable. But the best hardly.
Technically not a very sound player at all. The best forehand is the one that is in the game for the longest period of time - winning. NOt this guy for sure...
Nadal fans had always made excuses that Rafa lost this match because he was still young. Well, he was number 2. He had beaten Federer and other top players on hard court several times. You don't get to number 2 just on clay court wins alone. This is just a case of Fernando's forehand was too much for Nadal that day.
As a Nadal fan, he just got straight up beat, Feña was just on FIRE that whole tournament.
It wasnt only González fh, he always has that shot, but when his movement and specially bh were on point, he became another beast, sadly his bh inconsistency hampered his career to reach this level more often
This was the era where Fernando G was playing his most disciplined since he was being coach by Larry Stefanki which is probably the coach who improved all his players in ranking, results, and discipline. Larry Stefanki also coached McEnroe, Kafelnikov, Herman, Rios, Roddick who all achieved number 1 or their highest ranking with him. Nadal was in top movement but his skill set and accuracy still had not peaked. Overall more credit to Gonzalez than a Nadal blunder.
And Delpotro forehand at us open 09😮
Cuando ves videos del feña te das cuanta que jarry , Garin , tabilo son buenos jugadores , pero Fernando fue leyenda.
Fernando's serve is an overhead forehand.
Every flat or spin serve is like that mate
@@Jakub_G_Tennis not mine, and not others', that I see.
My tennis coach always reapeats serve is a vertical fh - the way I get it - it's a basic rule of geometry which makes it easier to learn in my case at least
But I guess overhead is they key word here because of how high Gonzales takes the racket right?
@@Jakub_G_Tennis glad you have a knowledgeable coach. Most players get taught by hacks.
If there was any indication how good Gonzos FH was, years ago a tennis show was doing a segment asking various players at the time "whos got the best (insert stroke) on tour?"
They got to Forehands and practically everyone (berdych,roddick,Hewitt,ferrer and several other top 50 players) said either Federer or Nadal, when they asked Nadal and Federer they both said without hesitation "Fernando Gonzalez".
And Djokovic also said "I think everyone saying Federer and Nadal have best forehands while understandable i think are overlooking Gonzalez ...... one thing the other players dont tell about Gonzalez and his FH ....... it actually inflicts pain on your arm over time, every time i played him my right arm felt like it was kicked by a horse"
It is funny to see Nadal, with such a great forehand playing 90% of balls to the oponents backhand, one ball to gonz fh and boom winner
The rebound ace court was perfect for Gonzalez. Slow and high bounce gave him time to tee-off.
I would take Federer's because the forehand of Gonzalez needs more space, particulary indoors. Still, this is an excerpt from an article written in late January 2007: "Speaking as he rushed to his charge's final major practice session before he plays Tommy Haas today for a berth in the Australian Open final, the coach was asked if he had seen a forehand like the young Chilean's.
"No, he has the best forehand in the game," said Stefanki, who coached John McEnroe, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, Tim Henman, and guided another Chilean, Marcelo Rios, to the No.1 ranking.
But he admitted there was one player who could match Gonzalez's stroke: "Lendl." That's the only one? "Yeah."
Stefanki then remembered another forehand that warranted consideration. "Lendl, probably, and then … Federer. I think Federer and Lendl, those are the kind that sit in my mind.
"Lendl … I mean, he had total control of the tennis ball on the forehand side, like Fernando has."
Fernando probably had the biggest forehand in history but definitely not the best.
The best forehand in history(IMHO) is Federer as he created the modern forehand and could litterally do anything on that shot.
Modern FH of the 21st C. There were other modern FH's Lendl for one.
sorry...but Nadals FH is much more memorable. Power, topspin and more finesse than people think. The best FH, period. People tend to underrate Rogers FH because of his overall faboulous technique, it is close to Nadals in terms of quality, but Nadal is something else.
@@user-tc9fn9ux2u it is all very subjective and down to individual opinions.
Rafa and Roger have the two best forehands,in history however whilst Rafa's forehand is amazing, it was mainly his crazy topspin and outrageous banana shots that made it so great.
Rafa struggled to take the ball early on his FH however Fed could do it all on his forehand. He could take it early, angles, heavy spin, pace the whole lot.
Rafa didn't have the total all-round forehand that Roger did, it was mainly his crazy cross courtspin that hurt opponents so much.
Both great forehands along with Fernandos and lets not forget Delpos!
Another underrated and forgotten FH is James Blakes. His forehand was huge!
@@grantdelmege2724 Best forehand: del Potro
Best two handed backhand: Nalbandian
Best one handed backhand: Almagro
@@AA-le9ls AJAJAJAJAJJAAJ NI SE NOTA LO ARGENTO
Avec Del Potro, un des meilleurs coups droit observés dans ma vie 👍👏👏👏👏
17:50 a kangaroo on the court:D
😂
Personally I think 3:14 was a tactical mistake. Going line when you’re beyond the tram lines is dangerous unless you’re attacking or catching you’re opponent off guard.
agreed, I think he was wanting more depth to pin Nadal in backhand corner to set up forehand, it landed short which then allowed Nadal to gain the positional advantage. The professionals exist in a world where depth is almost necessary unless using the short court to open up angles.
15:32 💥
But RAFA has a unique spin and was great for over a decade. Consistency is important.
Is Gonzalez's forehand better than del Potro's? I know that del Potro has the fastest forehand average speed
Gonzo’s FH could do much more that Del Potro’s. Del Potro might have had the heavier forehand, but Gonzalez had much more variety in his shots with his FH. Even then, Del Potro was a far more complete player than Gonzalez ever was.
They both had the fastest fh, but gonz also had spin , so.. much more consistent
Le coup droit de Gonzalez est très impressionnant mais au bout du compte je crois que celui de Nadal est plus consistant et finalement efficace.
Máquina Feña..!!
Excelente
That would be Federer's in his prime. BH as well, volley too.
Robin Soderling says hi.
Just a lesson in how old skool hitting through the ball instead of new era Nadal topspin is just better
Yes, that must be why Gonzalez has 22 more Grand Slams than Nadal.
@@dl3988 nailed it jk no Nadal's persistence paid off but that hyper topspin causes ball to bounce too high which I think keeps the rally alive longer than it needs to. Players nowadays or from Sempras era would crush those balls🤣
Western grip ?
BS! I'll take Federer's any day of the week!
Agree that Gonzalez had a best FH. But his BH was nowhere close and at such high level of played you need to be flawless to win Grand Slams
Gaudio won a major as did Bruguera, but agreed if you want a major during the Fed, Nadal, Djoker era you need to be very complete.
@@coachvctennisGaudio had one of the best one handed backhands,he was only mentally unstable...
There is a rally missing
Forehands like djokovic, check...
Net play like djokovic, check...
Forgot how you call the smash move when you are on the net...He missed it just like djoko, check...
Very consistent throughout...I can not stress enough how similar this was to djokovic playstyle
Djokovic forehand is average at best
absolutly different styles. The forehand of Fernando Gonzalez has much, much more topspin that Novaks...and much more power. Remember that Novak does get the power from counterpouching most of the times. Novak has a great forehand, but it does not look like this. Net play is similar, but that is about it.
Really? González playa like Djokovic? Lol Nadal is closet to Djokovic style being left handed than gonzalez
You don't win 24 slams with an average forehand@@mikerzisu9508
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Not even close!!! If he had the best forehand he woukd win many slams. You dont have a clue about tennis.
What an incredibly stupid statement. Him not having won any majors doesn't disqualify him from having the best forehand. Are you stupid?
4HAND TOP 10 ( IMAO )
#1 Federer
#2 Agassi
#3 Nadal / Djokovic
#4 Lendl / Sampras
#5 Borg
#6 Connors / Safin
#7 Delpotro / Courier
#8 Wilander / Becker
#9 McEnroe / Gonzalez
#10 Rios / Murray
PS
Gonzalez was a very good player just like a lotta gentleman like Monfils, Dimitrov, Haas, Philippoussis, Blake, Davidenko, Nalbandian, Gulbis, Almagro, Isner, Anderson who absolutely would have been able 2 win at least 1 Major if there hadn't been d Big three era which as a matter of fact prevent these awesome guys with monsta 4hand 2 fulfil their potential. Right?
Nahhhh, DelPo all day
You're out of your mind. Best FH ever. LMFAO its now 2:05 pm EST and I'll still be laughing around midnight about this! The best FH in the history of men's tennis and the greatest attacking weapon ever seen belongs to Federer period. So just stop. Delpo would be higher on this list than Gonzalez. Yes it was massive and when on almost uncontestable. But the best hardly.
Nope...belongs to Nadal. In terms of consistency and success
@@user-tc9fn9ux2u thats so absurdly laughable.
False, del potro
No
La de Del Potro es mucho mejor y tuvo una carrera mas exitosa que lo confirma
en su prime Gonzalez lo destrozaba
OVERRATED
False, Novak Djòkovic
are you serious, ??? you probably don't know and saw fernando Gonzalez in a match... 🤫
@@gorealain7897 I’m just joking I’m pretending to be a braindead Djokovic fan commenting like a bot
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Thats funny. RF period.
Technically not a very sound player at all. The best forehand is the one that is in the game for the longest period of time - winning. NOt this guy for sure...