Is Klopp the most exciting Liverpool manager EVER? | Carra and Neville debate

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    Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville discuss Jurgen Klopp's style of football at Liverpool and whether it's the most exciting.
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  • @patrickryan5570
    @patrickryan5570 15 днів тому +98

    The Liverpool teams in 70s & the 80s were really exciting - Klopp brought some of that old magic back - He will be missed...

    • @drain_ator
      @drain_ator 14 днів тому

      He only won 1 ucl and 1 premier league, he doesn’t even come close to shankly and paisley. He’s on the same level as rafa benitez who also won 1 ucl

    • @dm_247
      @dm_247 14 днів тому +4

      @@drain_atorHe definitely would have at least 1-2 PL titles more if there hasn't been Man City. Compare Liverpool's amount of points with winners from 2000 until now.

    • @drain_ator
      @drain_ator 14 днів тому

      @@dm_247 he wouldve had 4 more premier league titles if city didnt exist, not 1-2 look at all of the last 7 seasons

    • @MrWhitmen1981
      @MrWhitmen1981 13 днів тому +1

      When man city get done for ffp. It’s going to be interesting.

  • @mazeika17
    @mazeika17 14 днів тому +18

    Salah Mane and Firmino was one to the most exciting front lines in history. If you’re using the word “exciting” to rank them I think they’re top 5, and klopp built that

  • @useryt205
    @useryt205 15 днів тому +115

    You can't beat MNF with these 3, don't get me wrong it is nice having a guest on every now and then but Jamie, Gary and Dave Will always be the best 3

    • @FuschinoTBM041
      @FuschinoTBM041 15 днів тому +4

      The Three Muppeteers 😉

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +5

      I didn't even know that guys name was Dave til I read this comment. You mean Carra and Nev basically?

    • @FuschinoTBM041
      @FuschinoTBM041 15 днів тому +2

      @@darthpepe2994 That Was Exactly What I Thought When I See The Name 💯😂

    • @benedictdossantos7878
      @benedictdossantos7878 15 днів тому

      Stop it

  • @Kevon420
    @Kevon420 15 днів тому +47

    The thing I adore about Klopp is how he *always* played fearlessly against all opposition, especially Guardiola's all-conquering Manchester City. For that, he will always have my respect and admiration. Let alone his incredible trophy cabinet, CV, and overall football philosophy.

    • @chucky7826
      @chucky7826 14 днів тому +1

      Incredible trophy cabinet 😂

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому +2

      @@chucky7826 3 League Titles, 1 European Cup, 1 World Club Cup, 1 European Super Cup and 4 Domestic Cups. All for clubs with limited budgets, one in a 1 team league, the other in a league dominated by a club doing it on cheat mode. Had he managed the clubs he was up against he'd have easily trebled that trophy count. What have you done better in life?

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому +4

      @@chucky7826 Most sensible thing you've done on here deleting that comment. Half his 25 year managerial career was spent at Mainz, a lower league club, who he got promoted, twice, and built to became a Bundesliga regular. To clubs like them that IS success, because they've achieved more than they ever had before. Again; what have you done better in life?

    • @chucky7826
      @chucky7826 14 днів тому

      @darthpepe2994 well done genius he started at mainz, hang on I'll give you a medal. Did I say any different? Said don't know where you're getting "half his career at mainz" ,when he was as long at dortmund as mainz, and longer again at Liverpool, that might have been half in your remedial maths class and they gave you a gold star anyway, but it's nowhere near half. Maybe if you could actually read you wouldn't be so perplexed

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому +1

      @@chucky7826 So you're resorting to technicalities because you've lost the argument? He still spent a lot of his managerial career at Mainz, so when you say "25 years and only..." you're choosing to ignore that he wasn't competing for trophies at Mainz, who's goals are not to win trophies because realistically they can't. And again; Dortmund play in a one team league and have a much lesser budget than that one team, are they expected to win the league most years? Liverpool play in the hardest league in the world, a league they hadn't won in 30 years, he also had the lowest budget of all his big 6 rivals, including one with an unlimited budget. If he's such an overrated manager perhaps instead of focusing on my choice of words you name us all a manager who could have actually done better under those circumstances? Please, don't dodge; enlighten us all...

  • @capio78
    @capio78 15 днів тому +23

    As a neutral the quality of Liverpool and Man city over the last few years has been incredible. Klopp will be missed

  • @chroniqmusic
    @chroniqmusic 14 днів тому +9

    Wijnaldum at Liverpool doesn't get spoken about enough.

    • @Ajay-d
      @Ajay-d 14 днів тому +2

      It's prime Henderson actually. Once his legs were gone the team went off.

    • @chroniqmusic
      @chroniqmusic 14 днів тому +2

      @@Ajay-d Gini was a workhorse you need players like that to have a good attack and defence, the balance needs to come from somewhere.
      Hendo is the same
      There’s no CL without Gini

  • @CASUALFC
    @CASUALFC 14 днів тому +4

    Yes you can watch liverpool matches and you will never get bored absolutely treat to watch win or lose entertainment should be first

  • @TruRedCRIME
    @TruRedCRIME 15 днів тому +18

    No idea. I didnt watch shankly etc so i dont know ever but in the epl era he certainly is

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +1

      Well Football didn't start when the EPL did kid, and you're not the Earth's main character. So forgive those of us who don't declare your righteous opinion as anything we should pay any attention to....

    • @itsBATSMENnotBATTERS
      @itsBATSMENnotBATTERS 15 днів тому

      Neither did 90% of your fans so that’s alright

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +1

      @@itsBATSMENnotBATTERS Most of the blokes I go to the match with saw Shankly's teams, and just because a percentage didn't see those teams that means they're not valid? I guess Fergie's, Wengers and Mourinho's teams can be erased from the conversation too then? Seeing as a generation of kids know them as ancient history also?

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +1

      @@itsBATSMENnotBATTERS and they constitute how much of a Liverpool or Man Utd fanbase? Can't speak for the Southern clubs but up here fans have been here for generations. Even City can't even fill their stadium despite playing it on cheat mode.

    • @LiamGervaise
      @LiamGervaise 15 днів тому +1

      @@darthpepe2994aye and he addressed that and stated in the epl era

  • @sanmateoflights
    @sanmateoflights 15 днів тому +5

    Klopp was the best since Dalglish, but the most exciting thing is to win trophies.
    Bob Paisley the best.

  • @noahhollingsworth7193
    @noahhollingsworth7193 15 днів тому +32

    Why don’t they do a video on why Liverpools defence is so bad it’s tiring watching us concede so many goals

    • @CodPatrol
      @CodPatrol 15 днів тому +4

      Neville saying this is unlike Salah against Everton. Is it really? For the past 8 months I’ve witnessed these dribbling performances, getting pocketed by unremarkable players. Guy permanently watches United games.

    • @MikeyysVlogs
      @MikeyysVlogs 15 днів тому +11

      you've literally conceded the 3rd least goals of any team behind Arsenal and City. What are you talking about.

    • @NeilLewis77
      @NeilLewis77 15 днів тому +10

      well today it was because of the endo mac allister switch.
      for 75 mins mac allister had played really well and covered alot of ground.
      then we take off endo and ask mac to play as the 6 while hes shattered and while villa are running at him trying to chase the game.
      he was at fault for both goals the poor lad.
      when i saw the subs warming up i thought he was going to get a rest.
      instead he was dropped right into an important defensive role at the worst possible time.
      big mistake from klopp.
      but i dont care because hes given us everything and im gonna miss his grinning german chops.

    • @noahhollingsworth7193
      @noahhollingsworth7193 15 днів тому

      @@MikeyysVlogs mate I’m talking in general our defence is poor , you have to watch our games to see it

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому

      @@MikeyysVlogs How many clean sheets though? I'm a Liverpool fan, I don't think we're as bad as we're made out to be... but there's still a problem there

  • @RobenArjen
    @RobenArjen 15 днів тому +4

    For me klops team with heavy metal football is most entertaining football

  • @sib1930
    @sib1930 15 днів тому +3

    No Bill Shankly is. Klopp has been a breath of fresh air. He has rebuilt the club and team and won everything and been competitive.

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 15 днів тому +1

      Rebuild?? 😂more like cheating back in the 20th century..yeah we know all about that 😂

    • @drain_ator
      @drain_ator 14 днів тому +2

      Paisley was. He won 20 trophies in 9 seasons. Including 3 ucls

  • @MoneyShrts
    @MoneyShrts 15 днів тому +27

    As bad as it sounds. It feels like this Liverpool team under-achieved

    • @JK.47
      @JK.47 15 днів тому +13

      Hard to compete against city cheating and peps tactics

    • @CodPatrol
      @CodPatrol 15 днів тому +8

      @@JK.47 hard to compete against flopp’s awful in game tactics and substitutions

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 15 днів тому +3

      ​@@JK.47It was also hard for other club to compete when Liverpool were cheating in the 70s and 80s

    • @MikeyysVlogs
      @MikeyysVlogs 15 днів тому +1

      Wouldn't say 7 trophies in 8 years is an underachievement.

    • @ordenax
      @ordenax 15 днів тому +3

      ​@@CodPatrol Yes awful. When he is literally in the top 99.9999% percentile of coaches around the world. But let's listen to this supporter of cheats.

  • @alansouthall8221
    @alansouthall8221 15 днів тому

    his style was the most impressive thing.
    results wise hes been well in line with what we expect from a Liverpool manager.
    but he did it with lot of style and personality

  • @elokaoji5705
    @elokaoji5705 11 днів тому

    Scrap transfer fees and buyout clauses. Replace it with buyout contracts for example if u got a player 5 year contract he has to commit to 3 years before a club can approach and buyout the player contract. If a player extends contract clubs cant approach to buyout the contract for another 2 years

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL 15 днів тому +42

    Klopp has won 1 UCL, 1 Prem, 2 Bundesliga titles, 1 FA cup and been to 3 UCL finals..
    If you think that's overrated, you need to be jailed for 5 years even for thinking that

    • @TheTemporary1ne
      @TheTemporary1ne 15 днів тому +15

      And look at the teams he done it with. Liverpool team that he inherited was a joke. If klopp managed Bayern, Madrid or city he will be winning everything every season

    • @GrouchyKraut
      @GrouchyKraut 15 днів тому +3

      And with a quarter of the budget of his rivals.

    • @BiWesCrew
      @BiWesCrew 15 днів тому +2

      more important is the Rock'n'Roll, the almost child like Lust to entertain the terrace with the most spectakular football you can watch your team dishing out. A German becoming the real 5th Beatle, just with a bigger Portion of Lemmy Kilmister realness about him. My humble opinion.

    • @bossbod3163
      @bossbod3163 15 днів тому +4

      100 percent the most overrated manger in premier League history! He gets away with it because he has a flamboyant character!

    • @evseries1
      @evseries1 15 днів тому +1

      And a million energy drink cups 😂😂

  • @Pricelessmile
    @Pricelessmile 14 днів тому +1

    I'd agree with Carra, I don't really care how 'exciting' my team is, I just want them to win. I'd much prefer and terribly boring 1-0 win instead of a very exciting 4-1 loss.

  • @SomeRandomBod
    @SomeRandomBod 15 днів тому +1

    That style of winning discussion has been going on with Liverpool & Utd since the 60’s.

  • @atikurrahman9304
    @atikurrahman9304 14 днів тому +2

    We should have won more. Our football deserved it.

  • @JK.47
    @JK.47 15 днів тому +11

    Imagine if suarez was playing under klopp

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 15 днів тому +6

      He achieved more at Barça

    • @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh
      @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh 15 днів тому +1

      @@eL--RaLif Klopp arrived at Liverpool earlier tho he could have achieved more with them maybe even a domestic title

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +3

      And Gerrard?

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +3

      @@eL--RaL Naturally, it's a glorified Scottish league with an even wealthier and more superior "Rangers and Celtic". I mean Real Madrid managers have been sacked even if they win the league over there, that's how much of an "achievement" it is to win stuff there...

    • @drain_ator
      @drain_ator 14 днів тому +1

      @@eL--RaLthat’s because Barça were a better team than 2014-2017 liverpool 😂 liverpool were a mid table club

  • @mikee7406
    @mikee7406 15 днів тому +3

    Been too open for a few years now

  • @wilsoncws
    @wilsoncws 8 днів тому

    17-20 was the prime Jurgen Klopp football in Liverpool.

  • @Jay-kk1ee
    @Jay-kk1ee 14 днів тому +1

    Klopp is great but shankly is the god of football in liverpool! 😮🔥🙌

  • @jacobfield4848
    @jacobfield4848 15 днів тому +1

    Attacking teams win more matches and concede less goals.

  • @nonnayoubuzinnes1669
    @nonnayoubuzinnes1669 14 днів тому

    Definitely. I wouldn't have wanted any other manager, still don't.

  • @osamjoe2538
    @osamjoe2538 13 днів тому

    Klopp should have never adapted, heavy metal football was impossible to stop.

  • @user-wm8bi1uc8p
    @user-wm8bi1uc8p 15 днів тому

    Sir Bobby Paisley.

  • @RBWales
    @RBWales 15 днів тому +6

    Why are so many of the big problems in the PL not discussed on this show but this 'debate' is?

    • @eXpressYourselfClips
      @eXpressYourselfClips 15 днів тому +2

      Because Skysports are indirectly working for the PL.

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому

      Because they're not activists and despite the problems in Football; most of us would like to hear some of the positives in the game too. If you want to spend your whole time as a Football fan complaining constantly I suggest you move to Newcastle, Leeds or somewhere near Goodison Park

  • @whoknew2273
    @whoknew2273 14 днів тому

    Sorry no you got to give it to Avram Grant lol

  • @stannats2637
    @stannats2637 15 днів тому +2

    Liverpool defensive game is garbage

  • @bionicle37
    @bionicle37 15 днів тому +1

    He is not

  • @markmutale9313
    @markmutale9313 14 днів тому

    Any excuse to kiss his backside ey sky?

  • @steve-kl9iv
    @steve-kl9iv 15 днів тому

    No.

  • @davididehen2505
    @davididehen2505 15 днів тому

    As a city fan. Klopp is my favourite number 2 hahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Maybe arsenal could make it to my fav number 2 after this season

    • @mohminyousaf1450
      @mohminyousaf1450 15 днів тому +7

      Okay cheats 🙄

    • @davididehen2505
      @davididehen2505 15 днів тому +1

      @@mohminyousaf1450 aint guilty lil bro

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 15 днів тому +1

      Klopp is one of the very best

    • @giantl2359
      @giantl2359 14 днів тому

      Use will draw against the spuds tonight

    • @mattvanemden7573
      @mattvanemden7573 13 днів тому

      @@davididehen2505 lol would you let someone who has 115 pending charges look after your kids? remember... theyre not guilty bro

  • @TazBo-wd2ig
    @TazBo-wd2ig 14 днів тому

    If Klopp did not say he was leaving, the fans would be asking him to leave. He’s lost his MOJO.

    • @CianMcsweeney
      @CianMcsweeney 14 днів тому

      Not true at all, they overachieved this season, rebuild of the team isn't even complete yet

  • @maxvajs6698
    @maxvajs6698 15 днів тому +5

    What’s exciting about bottling the league to City so many times and loosing 2 Champions league finals against Real

    • @RSSP2000
      @RSSP2000 15 днів тому +4

      They lost 1 game in 2018/19. How is that bottling?

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL 15 днів тому +2

      Acting like Madrid is a small club 😂

    • @maxvajs6698
      @maxvajs6698 15 днів тому

      @@eL--RaL completely missed my point 😂

    • @maxvajs6698
      @maxvajs6698 15 днів тому

      @@RSSP2000 shouldn’t have lost that game to or drawn that many 🤣 bottlers

    • @stuartgolby9767
      @stuartgolby9767 15 днів тому

      Can tell you support United 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣​@@maxvajs6698

  • @MikeyysVlogs
    @MikeyysVlogs 15 днів тому +8

    All this Klopp chat is getting boring now. We get it he's leaving at the end of the season and it's the end of his Liverpool era.

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +6

      On behalf of all Liverpool fans I apologise profusely for the mystical force that made you watch a video against your will that we were interested in....

  • @israelolanipekun7814
    @israelolanipekun7814 15 днів тому +3

    Exciting, lol 😂, yet one league title in 9years. Please like my comment so i can always come back to laugh at this.

  • @rianshah9377
    @rianshah9377 14 днів тому +1

    1 league title 9 years

    • @Anonymous-bb8sf
      @Anonymous-bb8sf 14 днів тому +1

      I’m not a Liverpool fan but come on
      Finished 8th once
      Outside of that 5th once
      Then never outside the top 4 for 9 seasons you’ve gotta give some credit

    • @Randomthoughts10903
      @Randomthoughts10903 14 днів тому

      ​@@Anonymous-bb8sf We are giving credit to him, but all these "it means more" or "best looking" or "best character" is non-football to some extent. He only won 1 pl in 9 years, and no matter how exciting they played, they only won 1.

    • @BU532
      @BU532 14 днів тому

      @@Randomthoughts10903 this statemeent is the best one i've seen. They talk like he's Pep but hes not. 1 league title and bottled it every other time.

    • @rianshah9377
      @rianshah9377 14 днів тому

      @@Anonymous-bb8sf he was good. Now he’s abysmal 🤷🏿 and the worst captain in the prem

    • @mattvanemden7573
      @mattvanemden7573 13 днів тому

      @@Randomthoughts10903 One player made the comment that in his opinion it means more to them to win because they dont win as often. Why does that upset you and other man city bandwagon fanboys? lol could it be because you have a chip on your shoulder becasue you know without 115 charges and a state nations backing you would probably be in the championship?

  • @QZDog123
    @QZDog123 15 днів тому +1

    One premier league trophy…

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому +5

      Against Man City 115. Name another Premier League manager who (fairly) acquired 95+ points on numerous occasions, reached 3 Champions League finals and still won 7 trophies in 8 seasons despite a low budget and having to compete against a team doing it on cheat mode?

    • @CianMcsweeney
      @CianMcsweeney 14 днів тому +2

      which is more than every other team other than city in the last few years...

    • @drain_ator
      @drain_ator 14 днів тому

      Not even Madrid or prime barca would’ve won 1 trophy in the premier league against city are you stupid

  • @recruitmentch
    @recruitmentch 14 днів тому +1

    Exciting? Yes. But with Klopp there is always the inevitable failure. He was always that coach. Bridesmaid to Pep god knows how many times and 3 defeats in 4 european finals. The only final they did win was vs Spurs.

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому

      Give him an equal budget to Pep then and see who the bridesmaid is then. I mean you're speaking like Klopp had all the advantages in the world and kept failing, his net spend was pitiful compared to ALL his rivals and yet the only managers and teams to actually outdo him in Title races and UCL finals (Pep, Ancelotti, Bayern, City and Real Madrid) had the biggest budgets in football. Come back when you understand the word "context".

    • @recruitmentch
      @recruitmentch 14 днів тому

      @@darthpepe2994 comparing klopp to pep! Behave! Were they to blame for defeat to sevilla as well? 🤣

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому

      @@recruitmentch Give them an equal budget or better yet switch their budgets. I've never seen Pep have to punch up once in his whole managerial career, he's always operated with a massive advantage over everyone else he's competed against, and yet still been beaten/knocked out by Klopp on numerous occasions. And I'm sorry what Title race or UCL final where Sevilla in against Liverpool?

    • @recruitmentch
      @recruitmentch 14 днів тому

      @@darthpepe2994 haha! You're talking like klopp has been a pauper since joining liverpool! Just this season, dominik 70m, macalister 40m, gravenberch 40m, endo 20m! Then nunez 85m, gakpo 40m, diaz 50m, konate 40m, jota 45m, thiago 20m, tsimikas 13m, alisson 60m, keita 60m, fabinho 45m, shaqiri 15m, van dijk 85m, Salah 40m, oxlaid 40m, robertson 10m, mane 40m, wijnaldum 30m, benteke 30m, ibe 20, allen 15!
      You're all acting like he hasn't an expensively assembled squad! Delusion

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому

      ​@@recruitmentch Am I? Is it delusion? His net spend since he's arrived has been almost half of Tottenham's... Tottenham's for Gods sake! He's had the lowest net spend of the top 6 by an absolute mile, look it up for yourself and come back when you know what you're talking about.

  • @waqasahmad8015
    @waqasahmad8015 15 днів тому

    Glad hes leaving need a new manager new ideas yes hes won a title but hes not a legend one title in nearly 9 years says it all

  • @mitchie2267
    @mitchie2267 15 днів тому

    1 league title in 30 years. That’s the same as Lillie, Leverkusen and Monaco have achieved in the last 30 years. Hardly an achievement.

    • @NeilLewis77
      @NeilLewis77 15 днів тому +2

      Only a person like you could look at what Bayer Leverkusen have done this year and say "hardly an achievement"

    • @ajworks5958
      @ajworks5958 15 днів тому

      Exactly must think the Leicester season was overrated too

    • @mitchie2267
      @mitchie2267 14 днів тому

      @@ajworks5958 I'm saying, is this really the standards Liverpool want to celebrate?

    • @ajworks5958
      @ajworks5958 14 днів тому

      @@mitchie2267 well it’s better if they hadn’t done it for so long and they did cl before that. They literally were feared world wide and were one of the best prime club teams we have seen for a long time.

  • @llort7771
    @llort7771 15 днів тому +3

    He's the most overhyped

  • @bossbod3163
    @bossbod3163 15 днів тому +4

    For me the most overrated manger in premier League history is Klopp !

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 15 днів тому +2

      Said every headline reader ever who never watched a second more of Football than Sky Sports or MotD's highlights ever produced. This, ladies and Gents, is the definition of an armchair fan. Don't be an armchair fan. Watch properly, understand context, understand those who have less resources than their opponents and appreciate achievements made against the odds.... instead of headline readers like bossbod who don't know anything beyond who wins and who doesn't

    • @bossbod3163
      @bossbod3163 14 днів тому

      @@darthpepe2994 dude I’ve watched more football then you have ever watched! It’s a opinion for me for all the hype he hasn’t won that much!!! and sorry never watched match of the day! Because I’ve had sky since 1992!

    • @bossbod3163
      @bossbod3163 14 днів тому

      @@darthpepe2994 you know why he quickly now ! Because he don’t have minerals to make another team! Easy way out

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому

      @@bossbod3163 What? English please.

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 14 днів тому

      @@bossbod3163 What? English please.

  • @theds5834
    @theds5834 14 днів тому

    Overrated, 1 ucl in 10 years called exciting, imagine how Liverpool fans brains work