*No man can have everything he wants. If this land could be bent to my will, then it would not be worth fighting for. No, this land is shaped by the conflicting ambitions of many great men. Therein lies its beauty. If I die here and if you fall, will all be lost? No. In every act lies its own purpose and meaning. Feel it. The world is moving again. But it is no longer mine. Mitsuhide, I forgive you.*
Faisal Masab Nah .... he was a failure, Shingen saw that .... that is why he never wanted to pass the clan to Katsuyori. I have no respect for that fucker :)
Who's here after watching SW5 ending? I dunno, i love SW4's Nobunaga's final scene much more. He just looks so awesome, so unvawering. He's like... he's ABOVE everything. Mitsuhide betrayed him and set his castle at fire, yet Nobunaga feels no fear nor sadness. He's like "It was a fun game, and you won. Goodbye" and then just wanishes in the fire... It makes him look so awesome and badass... SW5 ending makes him look... well... like a dramatic hero, who accepts his death... While SW4's Nobunaga's final scene makes him look like a God who descended to play with mortals, and once his time here is over, he just gives a thumbs up and logs out, like Terminator in T2. I prefer Gods over normal humans, so... yeah.
DarkAdonisVyers I haven't played it yet but from the walkthroughs, this one doesn't have hypothetical routes like DW8. Instead, there is a story for each major clan (some having 8 missions and some having 3-4). Then there are two major ones which is the end of the Sengoku period I believe and another for the battle between Tokugawa and Mitsunari.
DarkAdonisVyers Vlad didnt really had any ambitions maybe just keeping Turks out off Romanian lands but turks fucked off anyway from Romania so he besically acomplished what he wanted! just saying
I think he did. But what he did not expect was for Mitsuhide to take such drastic yet foolish measure so soon, when only "half, not all," of Japan were his. I mean: the reason why he kept Mitsuhide relatively closer all the time while he let the likes of Hideyoshi (who were even more clear had ambition beyond servantship) kept an active army and an active house all the time was probably bcs Mitsuhide can see as far as Hideyoshi can yet, unlike Hideyoshi, the Akechi had a nobility background and a powerful house history and lots of family lines with the other factions. The Oda were originally just a countryside noblemen family, too, thus if one day the Akechi betrays them, there's no assurance that the Oda would survive in power. Thus he needed to make sure Mitsuhide's de facto power were limited. But, at the same time, he knew the man was very talented and it would be a waste not using his talent, so ofc the right move was to keep him as seemingly-very-trusted retainer, giving him space to achieve glory and fame while putting an invincible chain on him. The more right question should be: what would have happened if only the Akechi had taken more of their time? The one who waits for the best moment to deal the most significant damage wins, as Ieyasu had proven within his life.
Huh, it's sorta coincidental that Nobunaga walked into the flames and "vanished" similar to Wu's hypothetical ending in DW8 where Cao Cao also did the same in a nearly identical manner
They were both very similar in methodology. They defied the norms of their respective eras and hired people of merit and skill, regardless of rank. They were also known to be quite ruthless, leading to their officers coming to fear or lose their faith in them.
Now you mention that just finish the game some day ago but yeah seem like the boys in Koie techmo and Omega force really love to make these two similar.
Because Nobunaga's corpse wasn't found in Honnoji, so we don't know if he actually died there or not, that's why Koei made it so that Nobunaga vanished into the flames for more "mysterious".
燒紙派護法 You kill Ranmaru earlier in the level. Pretty much all officers defeated in this level are marked as "slain", rather than just "defeated" or "routed", implying you kill everyone.
SRC 17 just a bit sad that they made this historically incorrect. Ranmaru assisted Nobunaga in committing seppuku so I was a bit disappointed that he was killed in the game before.
Akechi rebelled... and then regrets it? Well, man, you've done and royally fucked up everything. Maybe you should've waited until morning before making rash decisions. Sleep deprivation kind of makes you go nuts.
Actually what he said is: "In order to change this land, i wanted to betray you. But i don't want to kill Ranmaru, i didn't want to betray you anymore." I think he's feel bad for Ranmaru that causing him to hesitate
he betrayed Nobunaga for good reason. Even if he wanted to unite Japan, he has become too cruel and insane. Killed way too many innocent. Mitsuhide deep down was pacifist and wanted bloodshed to end.
@@TaigaXsenpai in real life story,there is some rumor of solid reason why mitsuhide betray nobunaga ,i heard because of nobunaga(i forgot what)mitsuhide mother died
To me this showes that Mitsuhide was weak and incapable of taking control of japan. He already Oda's son, wife, and retainers and yet whens he's on the ferge of finishing the job he just suddenly regrets it all and then stops? Mitsuhide exactly what was the point of this betryal?
SilentAssassin927 Usually, in SW incarnations the reason behind Mitsuhide's betrayal is because he thinks Nobunaga has gone too far, not only mistreating Mitsuhide himself at some points, but also being too cruel against his enemies and even friends alike. But through the battle at Honnoji he sees Nobunaga's point, the point he failed to see before. That's what hesitates him, and that's also what drives him try to rule Japan afterwards. That's usually the SW take anyway, i like it.
SilentAssassin927 Oh yea, i agree his SB counterpart is more shallow compared to this, but you know. It's because the historical reason for Mitsuhide's rebellion is unknown, there are speculations but no actual facts. Mitsuhide is still my favorite character in the franchaise but, really they should have done at least a gaiden stage to show what he was trying to do, and, that's another thing about SW4 that bothers me, there are no takes on what if scenerios, even in Legend of Kinki Nagamasa dies, i hope they did those what if scenerios in 4-II, because they were lovely back in SW2, regardless this game is amazing, too bad nobody is online.
I just pre-ordered Samurai Warriors 5 and installed it only to find out it's a spinoff and they're teenagers (kinda). I didn't know in real life history that akechi betrayed him and killed him. I hope to enjoy this seeing as how playing Dynasty Warriors (even the Legends or 9 whatever it's called has bored me with how advanced the system is from its roots) I dunno if Lu Bu was real, but Nobunaga Oda being both a Hero for unifying Japan and being a Villain for the lengths he took to do so. Just saying. We got a bad ass over here.
Me: Please stop! Lord Mitsuhide, Lord Nobunaga!! Mitsuhide: There is no way to stop us. Or you want to die here in the Honno ji? Me: I don't care! You both are friends right?! All Lord Nobunaga wants is a person that he can believe with his own life! Why did you do that?! *crying* Mitsuhide: *feels guilty * Nobunaga : Stop talking, little girl.... Me: Lord Nobunaga! *run to him and hugs him* Nobunaga : What are you doing?! You are a brave girl to hug a demon king like me. Me: *crying more* Mitsuhide : *pats my head* Stop crying.... I also didn't want to do it.... *pull me to him* Me: I hate you... You killed Lord Nobunaga... But in the same time I can't do it because you are loyal to him before... *crying* Mitsuhide :Sorry.... Nobunaga :*thinks in mind* I never thought that there is someone who will cry on my death. I wonder did the other will do the same?
*No man can have everything he wants. If this land could be bent to my will, then it would not be worth fighting for. No, this land is shaped by the conflicting ambitions of many great men. Therein lies its beauty. If I die here and if you fall, will all be lost? No. In every act lies its own purpose and meaning. Feel it. The world is moving again. But it is no longer mine. Mitsuhide, I forgive you.*
Christian Schäfer / ZANGOJOE where is these line come from? It is really EPIC.
This is from Samurai Warriors 3 which in my opinion had the best Nobunaga in the series; the quote above is from him.
Nobunaga one of my favorite historic figures.
Matt Fedor Fuck Nobunaga ! Takeda Shingen baby :)) Undefeated....The Mountain ! :) He should have rulled Japan!
Faisal Masab No ... I mean Takeda Harunobu Shingen ... Katsuyori was a failure :)))
lol
Faisal Masab Nah .... he was a failure, Shingen saw that .... that is why he never wanted to pass the clan to Katsuyori. I have no respect for that fucker :)
Faisal Masab Hhahahah good roleplay man ... good roleplay :D
Who's here after watching SW5 ending?
I dunno, i love SW4's Nobunaga's final scene much more. He just looks so awesome, so unvawering. He's like... he's ABOVE everything. Mitsuhide betrayed him and set his castle at fire, yet Nobunaga feels no fear nor sadness. He's like "It was a fun game, and you won. Goodbye" and then just wanishes in the fire... It makes him look so awesome and badass...
SW5 ending makes him look... well... like a dramatic hero, who accepts his death... While SW4's Nobunaga's final scene makes him look like a God who descended to play with mortals, and once his time here is over, he just gives a thumbs up and logs out, like Terminator in T2. I prefer Gods over normal humans, so... yeah.
I still prefer the sw 2 ending we actually see him die by a gunshot
Already miss this version of Lord Nobunaga 😭😭
If only Nobunaga had realised his ambition.
I wonder how Japan would have been today?
Well, you could say the same about Cao Cao or Vlad III. Also, does this game "branch" like DW8, or is it just depressingly streamlined, like DW7?
DarkAdonisVyers I haven't played it yet but from the walkthroughs, this one doesn't have hypothetical routes like DW8. Instead, there is a story for each major clan (some having 8 missions and some having 3-4). Then there are two major ones which is the end of the Sengoku period I believe and another for the battle between Tokugawa and Mitsunari.
DarkAdonisVyers Vlad didnt really had any ambitions maybe just keeping Turks out off Romanian lands but turks fucked off anyway from Romania so he besically acomplished what he wanted! just saying
Sanjuro If mitsunari won Sekigahara's battle, Japan could be a paradise today
I think he did.
But what he did not expect was for Mitsuhide to take such drastic yet foolish measure so soon, when only "half, not all," of Japan were his.
I mean: the reason why he kept Mitsuhide relatively closer all the time while he let the likes of Hideyoshi (who were even more clear had ambition beyond servantship) kept an active army and an active house all the time was probably bcs Mitsuhide can see as far as Hideyoshi can yet, unlike Hideyoshi, the Akechi had a nobility background and a powerful house history and lots of family lines with the other factions. The Oda were originally just a countryside noblemen family, too, thus if one day the Akechi betrays them, there's no assurance that the Oda would survive in power. Thus he needed to make sure Mitsuhide's de facto power were limited.
But, at the same time, he knew the man was very talented and it would be a waste not using his talent, so ofc the right move was to keep him as seemingly-very-trusted retainer, giving him space to achieve glory and fame while putting an invincible chain on him.
The more right question should be: what would have happened if only the Akechi had taken more of their time?
The one who waits for the best moment to deal the most significant damage wins, as Ieyasu had proven within his life.
Huh, it's sorta coincidental that Nobunaga walked into the flames and "vanished" similar to Wu's hypothetical ending in DW8 where Cao Cao also did the same in a nearly identical manner
They were both very similar in methodology. They defied the norms of their respective eras and hired people of merit and skill, regardless of rank. They were also known to be quite ruthless, leading to their officers coming to fear or lose their faith in them.
Now you mention that just finish the game some day ago but yeah seem like the boys in Koie techmo and Omega force really love to make these two similar.
Because Nobunaga's corpse wasn't found in Honnoji, so we don't know if he actually died there or not, that's why Koei made it so that Nobunaga vanished into the flames for more "mysterious".
Take note in Warriors Orochi when Lu Xun saw Nobunaga he said, "Why would we trust someone that looks like Cao Cao?"
@@rhen4short now I want to see that
Mitsuhide: At last I find out that I don't want to kill Ranmaru...
Ranmaru: ?????
燒紙派護法 You kill Ranmaru earlier in the level. Pretty much all officers defeated in this level are marked as "slain", rather than just "defeated" or "routed", implying you kill everyone.
SRC 17 just a bit sad that they made this historically incorrect. Ranmaru assisted Nobunaga in committing seppuku so I was a bit disappointed that he was killed in the game before.
Akechi rebelled... and then regrets it? Well, man, you've done and royally fucked up everything. Maybe you should've waited until morning before making rash decisions. Sleep deprivation kind of makes you go nuts.
Actually what he said is: "In order to change this land, i wanted to betray you. But i don't want to kill Ranmaru, i didn't want to betray you anymore."
I think he's feel bad for Ranmaru that causing him to hesitate
Eh, same difference XD
+PhantomOfTheSchool Yes! Always make decisions while you're outside and the sun shines.
Remorse and hesitation are the main enemies of will and ambition.
Mitsuhide Go Green turned to traitor of Nobunaga Go Red's death
You don't have the right to cry Mitsuhide, you caused all of this!
skye82693 Barely, he's the one going through the most sorrow doing that.
he betrayed Nobunaga for good reason. Even if he wanted to unite Japan, he has become too cruel and insane. Killed way too many innocent.
Mitsuhide deep down was pacifist and wanted bloodshed to end.
@@TaigaXsenpai in real life story,there is some rumor of solid reason why mitsuhide betray nobunaga ,i heard because of nobunaga(i forgot what)mitsuhide mother died
Nobunaga is cool even when he is dying.
It would be cool if Nobunaga's voice wasnt so weird
***** That's true but Nobunaga is also weird so it totally fit the character.
well thats how the real nobonaga died by suicide. mitsuhide (can't spell his name) comvinced nobonaga to kill himself
Hey, Nobunaga's voice is same as Arlong from One Piece, and i love it ^_^
Кейти Тамира yeah and Voice actor of Xiahou dun (and some other guys probably) is the guy voice Zoro as well.
Best one was in SW2 when said we must slay the Demon king it's owsem but in SW 3 and SW 4 l feel honnoji bad
Anybody else see this as Cao Cao vs Cao pi
+Sio Jantera Cao Cao lived like a thousand years before Nobunaga lol
+Sio Jantera Exactly
To me this showes that Mitsuhide was weak and incapable of taking control of japan. He already Oda's son, wife, and retainers and yet whens he's on the ferge of finishing the job he just suddenly regrets it all and then stops? Mitsuhide exactly what was the point of this betryal?
SilentAssassin927 Yeah, remorse is overrated, huh?
SilentAssassin927 Usually, in SW incarnations the reason behind Mitsuhide's betrayal is because he thinks Nobunaga has gone too far, not only mistreating Mitsuhide himself at some points, but also being too cruel against his enemies and even friends alike. But through the battle at Honnoji he sees Nobunaga's point, the point he failed to see before. That's what hesitates him, and that's also what drives him try to rule Japan afterwards. That's usually the SW take anyway, i like it.
It makes sense. At least this version of him is better than his Sengoku Basara counterpart.
SilentAssassin927 Oh yea, i agree his SB counterpart is more shallow compared to this, but you know. It's because the historical reason for Mitsuhide's rebellion is unknown, there are speculations but no actual facts. Mitsuhide is still my favorite character in the franchaise but, really they should have done at least a gaiden stage to show what he was trying to do, and, that's another thing about SW4 that bothers me, there are no takes on what if scenerios, even in Legend of Kinki Nagamasa dies, i hope they did those what if scenerios in 4-II, because they were lovely back in SW2, regardless this game is amazing, too bad nobody is online.
Headchrusherdeth Same, SW is beautiful
the three day shougun mitshuhide.
+Sir Derpington actually 11
I just pre-ordered Samurai Warriors 5 and installed it only to find out it's a spinoff and they're teenagers (kinda).
I didn't know in real life history that akechi betrayed him and killed him.
I hope to enjoy this seeing as how playing Dynasty Warriors (even the Legends or 9 whatever it's called has bored me with how advanced the system is from its roots)
I dunno if Lu Bu was real, but Nobunaga Oda being both a Hero for unifying Japan and being a Villain for the lengths he took to do so.
Just saying.
We got a bad ass over here.
Samurai Warriors 5 isn't a spin off it focuses on nobunaga's story
Bro lu Bu is real even red hare is real as well
And if it's not Because lu Bu, China today's would be different
What song is playing during this cutscene?
Zexi141 Passage of Time
lord mitsuhide I will protect lady kikyo
鐘:纏兄 ニニニニッ！！
Name of the OST ?
Jiyanban passage of time
Passage of Time, exchanging the Protagonist of Super Sentai Series 2000 Proceded by:Time Red (Zhao Yun (DW 8)) goodbye Go Red (Nobunaga Oda (SW 4)).
Me: Please stop! Lord Mitsuhide, Lord Nobunaga!!
Mitsuhide: There is no way to stop us. Or you want to die here in the Honno ji?
Me: I don't care! You both are friends right?! All Lord Nobunaga wants is a person that he can believe with his own life! Why did you do that?! *crying*
Mitsuhide: *feels guilty *
Nobunaga : Stop talking, little girl....
Me: Lord Nobunaga! *run to him and hugs him*
Nobunaga : What are you doing?! You are a brave girl to hug a demon king like me.
Me: *crying more*
Mitsuhide : *pats my head* Stop crying.... I also didn't want to do it.... *pull me to him*
Me: I hate you... You killed Lord Nobunaga... But in the same time I can't do it because you are loyal to him before... *crying*
Mitsuhide :Sorry....
Nobunaga :*thinks in mind* I never thought that there is someone who will cry on my death. I wonder did the other will do the same?
This is fucking cringing me i stopped reading and went through the other comments. Stop for fucks sake
Actually, I could see Mitsuki becoming the "Me" in SW5's Honnoji because she's there when this moment happened.
This honestly feels like a cringe self insert rp moment.
This name ost please...?
irwan perdana tahir passage of time