I am trying to buy one soon. I was sold on the 170 SE after much research and then was told at the dealer i needed the GTX. I have 2 kids who would be using it the most over the next 5 years. My wife and I would use it for short rides too. I am an over thinker, GTI OR GTX?? Used for freshwater lakes that can get choppy but would utilize for multiple rec uses: pulling tubes, riding, cruises, etc. Do the different hulls make that much difference? Tell me what to buy
Your dealer is trying to sell you on a pricier unit. The GTI SE 170 is demonstrably superior (albeit slightly smaller) than the GTX. The hull tracks straighter in rough water, the Ergolock seats are near identical in their brilliant design (we love it), and both share the LinQ system. No, the main difference is hull design and the GTI hull is so, so much better. There's too much to list in the comments, you'll need to read the full length articles on each skis on www.watercraftjournal.com.
you were showing 7700 rpm's at 54 mph and i looked back on my post on greenhulk and see that my max rpm's were 7300 and 55 mph so i bet with a impeller change this will easily get closer to the fabled 60 mph.
Totally pull the trigger. We put another 5 hours on ours yesterday. You won't regret it. This little guy is our strongest contender for The Watercraft Journal's "Watercraft of The Year" for 2020.
Another awesome review Kevin! I’m so torn between the 170 se and the vx cruiser HO I plan on pulling my kids on a tube, doing some touring with the wife, and ripping it up when gong solo. Which of the two would you recommend? Which is more playful? Keep up the awesome work!
Understand that the entire VX lineup shares the same hull sculpt as the GP units, so it's definitely sporty. The new GTI hull is a little "looser" meaning you can whip the tail loose when properly motivated. The 1630 ACE 170 doesn't come "on" as hard as the High Output, so that makes for towing a little more progressive (your kids will appreciate it). Frankly, it's hard to argue with Sea-Doo's Ergolock seating and BRP premium sound system - but the 2021 Yamaha VX series now has a comparable sound system offering, so it's a bit of a wash!
I’m a little confused here, what exactly are the differences between the GTI and the GTI SE besides the power? Am I paying thousands more for the power alone?
First, you're conflating two different models. The base GTI (white and turquoise) is with the ACE 900 (90HP) engine. When you step up to the SE, you're paying for either the 130 or 170 from the larger ACE 1630 engine, added dash functions, as well as a folding swim step, a USB port, and BRP Premium Audio.
Wish Seadoo would offer a 170 hp version of the RXP-X or a GTI 170 on the TR-3 hull. My 170 hp FishPro will hit 60mph at 8000rpm with nothing on it but me. I really like the ST3 hull for its softer ride but it is twitchy in the rough stuff like you say. Running with trim all the way up for no trim ( straight through at the nozzle) makes it way less twitchy.
A naturally aspirated RXP-X? Interesting idea. Not sure it really has a place in the market, seeing as it's meant to be a high-performance race ski and 170 hp doesn't really fit that, but I'd be curious to see how it handles as well.
SeaDoo still offers a GTX 130 Pro…that gives you that hull on the cheap with some upgrades to toughen it as it’s the rental version and a tune will get you to 170
We don't. They're not intended to compete whatsoever. The GTI is meant to be a fun, playful yet stable platform for families. The VXR/GP HP is designed for aggressive handling/racing. Hull shape/material, weight, etc. are huge distinguishers.
I haven’t watched in a while but dang brother. Your gaining weight lol. This isn’t hate mail just saying I love your channel! So stay healthy my man :)
Just got the 23 gti got half hr on it I change oil at 10 hrs break it in right I hot full throttle and it won't open up now I'm guessing 5hrs till that happens
60-65 would have been the magic number for me. Being that the 130 hits 50+. My guess with a tune it will get to 60-65 but they don’t want to cannibalize their super charge units.
@@watercraftjournal why would the new GTI not see 60 MPH? The old Kawasaki STF-15F which is both heavier and less powerful (160 HP) can do 58 - 60 MPH on GPS.
App Store the new GTI really looks like a solid contender with a lot of great features and versatility; it really depends on what attributes you value most.
Great Video!!!! Super Informative!! I'm torn I really like the creature comforts and features of the SEA DOO, plus there is a dealer right around the corner. I've never owned a PWC just lots of Sterndrive Boats too date. I keep hearing SEA DOO is unreliable. Is this true how bad are they? Should I just get the Yamaha VX HO?
The Yamaha VX HO was our selection for Watercraft of The Year last year for good reasons. Sea-Doos are reliable only as so far as you keep it properly maintained and don't operate it irresponsibly.
I went with the Yamaha VX HO,,,,It had more of what was important to me and the family. First it's a Yamaha, I've owned many Yamaha products ATV"s and dirt bikes mostly. I can't say I had any problems with any of them at all. I liked the looks better and it has more power they say. It's hard to tell for sure but the top end is quite a bit higher. Five to Seven miles an hour is a lot on the water. I will say the Sea Doo is Cool from a feature perspective but for me it wasn't enough to steer me away from what Is said to be a more reliable machine.
Both my gti 130s go 55mph... this is lighter (plastic) and more power but same speed... I have been waiting for the new GTI for a long time. I really want to know a real comparison of a 130 to a new 150 in real world fuel consumption.
It's all in the tune, obviously. Far better acceleration over last year but similar top speed (these were pre-production units of course, and were told we'd pick up 2-3mph and 300rpm).
Yes. And it has an ECU tune, John. Sea-Doo tuned the new engine to perform similar to the outgoing 1503 Rotax. Acceleration is the outlier here, not top speed - because people who buy these aren't hot rodders.
I hit a consistent 58mph even in choppy water on my 170 (@7800rpm). I've been 60-61 on cold days on flat water. Riva tune will bump RPM up to 8100 and an extra 3mph
Im so torn. Can someone.help me out.. i dont know which jet ski to go for.... im looking for a jet ski that can handle the ocean.. a ski that can go 50-60 mph... a ski that can pull a tube with ease.. and something not 16k.. idk if a gti or stx 160 .. i just dont know.
Thankfully, BRP has created an infrastructure to quickly and cheaply repair and/or replace them for 2020. And - believe it or not - the final repair result is better than CM-Tech.
The GTI is DEMONSTRABLY a superior hull design. The GTX rides on the ST3 hull, which is unpredictable at best, that is, without a lot of aftermarket support in the way of RIVA Pro-Series Sponsons and their Stage 1 intake grate.
I’m in between a new 2021 GTI 170 and a pre owned 2020 GTX LIMITED with 20 hours on it. I’ll be using with my wife and daughter, in SWFL. Which one would you pick for the same price?
@@watercraftjournal just confirming: you do understand that I’m talking about the GTX 300 Limited for the same price as the GTI 170, right? 😱 Is the GTI that good to be better than the Limited 300? I know it’s an used 2020, but still. I’ll take you word on it, as I think you are the best PWC reviewer out there 👏🏻
I am about to order my first Sea-Doo this week and once you have tried all of them I would like to ask your opinion... SE 170 or GTR 2020? Also, my local dealer offers for the same amount as the GTR a GTX 230 2019 model (not used) with the BRP sound system. Which one would you recommend to go for?
Yikes! There's a lot of questions to answer there. First, you need to decide what skill level you're at (and be honest!). Next, decide what features are more important to you. Then consider the type of riding you'll most often be doing. That'll help your decision-making process.
@The Watercraft Journal thank you for your reply, appreciate it. I am a rookie as I never owned a PWC before (just rented a few times). Most often I will be cruising to be honest.
Then THIS machine would be an ideal "entry" machine. Very comfortable, great storage, responsive, and just plain fun to ride. Plus, it's light and gets good mileage. If after a while you want more power, the GTR 230 will be waiting.
New to your channel and subscribed to your emails. Such a great resource. Watch your weekly live youtube talks also. have the 2020 wake 170. What would you do to improve engine performance and or acceleration ?
@@watercraftjournal thank you for your reply. Funny I was actually thinking about trading it in for a wake pro 230 but am worried about the reliability of a supercharged unit.
Is there a difference between the 130 and 170 other than a tune? I'm buying a 130 and was wondering if I could tune it to 170? Are the engine internals the same with both skis?
Has there been any rumors on how to reduce drag on the polytech hull? I see guys race them in Europe but not here. Thought about running one in Aqua X 200 since it's comfortable to ride.
Rumors? No, but there's been a few who've tried painting the hulls to give it a smooth surface. The problem is that Polytec flexes A LOT so most paint cracks and spiderwebs over time.
@@watercraftjournal pwcmucle made a mention in a video about polytech that a rumor believed to be from and engineer at seadoo claimed bumper filler works to smooth out the hull. I can't find any more back up information that supports this. I have reached out to them and in the mean time thought I would check with you if you heard anything similar.
No, no. Not at all! The ECU tracks the battery life while accessories like the speakers are running. It will automatically deactivate the speakers when it sees that battery life is running low (but not too low to start the Sea-Doo).
@@watercraftjournal totally assuming here but i bet the aftermarket will have a tune and or impeller swap to easily get this to or above 60 mph by next summer.
It has the be the hull design that slows that ski down. It should be over 60 with the HP especially since it’s in the lower 700 lbs. Using the Kawi STX15F as a reference, at 160hp and weighs over 800lbs, it will do 60-61 all day long. The hull shape has to be killing its top speed. I mean even if the production model if it tops at 57-58 is not off by much compared to others and most can’t tell the difference between 1 and 2 mph. The loss in top end is probably the trade off to better handling characteristics and stability compared to the Kawi 🤷🏻♂️. The Kawi does handle pretty good though 😂...
Certainly! But most folks who buy this machine aren't looking for top speed numbers. Why drop all that coin and void the warranty when you could go with the supercharged GTR 230?
The Watercraft Journal -yeah I totally agree. I was just surprised there is not a little more top end in that package especially with the engine upgrade versus last years model
Not the brand new one but I used to like sinkdont till I got a brand new one a couple years ago and it had problems from the beginning with Lil things so it left for a yamaha plus sinkdont customer service is horrible these days they aren't like they used to be I guess got too big for themself.
Just got a 2020 GTI 130 SE yesterday I’m pretty excited!
SD did a very nice job on it. It's a winner.
How do you like it?
@@stopxthisxfall damn just now saw this... i freaking love it, it been a year now that i’ve had it
@@noahjohnson999 been a good unit so far for you???
@@pajamatime5750 absolutely! i am more than happy with it!!
Can’t wait to pick mine up next season.
Awesome!
Great review, Kevin.
HEY HEY! Thanks Sean!
I am trying to buy one soon. I was sold on the 170 SE after much research and then was told at the dealer i needed the GTX. I have 2 kids who would be using it the most over the next 5 years. My wife and I would use it for short rides too. I am an over thinker, GTI OR GTX?? Used for freshwater lakes that can get choppy but would utilize for multiple rec uses: pulling tubes, riding, cruises, etc. Do the different hulls make that much difference? Tell me what to buy
Your dealer is trying to sell you on a pricier unit. The GTI SE 170 is demonstrably superior (albeit slightly smaller) than the GTX. The hull tracks straighter in rough water, the Ergolock seats are near identical in their brilliant design (we love it), and both share the LinQ system. No, the main difference is hull design and the GTI hull is so, so much better. There's too much to list in the comments, you'll need to read the full length articles on each skis on www.watercraftjournal.com.
you were showing 7700 rpm's at 54 mph and i looked back on my post on greenhulk and see that my max rpm's were 7300 and 55 mph so i bet with a impeller change this will easily get closer to the fabled 60 mph.
The video doesn't show everything. And NO, you're gonna need a LOT more to get to 60 with this hull.
i want one soooooo bad!!
Totally pull the trigger. We put another 5 hours on ours yesterday. You won't regret it. This little guy is our strongest contender for The Watercraft Journal's "Watercraft of The Year" for 2020.
I’m getting one
Did our video help you make your decision?
Got a brand new 2020 GTI Se 170. Leans alot to the left. Moving slowly or fast.
That's not normal. Take it to your dealer.
Surprised about the top speed, I got my 2020 gti se 170 up to 60 mph without any modifications.
That's innteresting, because our test unit that we have RIGHT NOW tops off at 56mph. Are you using a GPS?
I don’t know, I was just using what the speedometer said stock from the factory, I didn’t mess with any settings or anything.
55 to 56 mph top speed
Another awesome review Kevin!
I’m so torn between the 170 se and the vx cruiser HO
I plan on pulling my kids on a tube, doing some touring with the wife, and ripping it up when gong solo.
Which of the two would you recommend?
Which is more playful?
Keep up the awesome work!
Understand that the entire VX lineup shares the same hull sculpt as the GP units, so it's definitely sporty. The new GTI hull is a little "looser" meaning you can whip the tail loose when properly motivated. The 1630 ACE 170 doesn't come "on" as hard as the High Output, so that makes for towing a little more progressive (your kids will appreciate it). Frankly, it's hard to argue with Sea-Doo's Ergolock seating and BRP premium sound system - but the 2021 Yamaha VX series now has a comparable sound system offering, so it's a bit of a wash!
I’m a little confused here, what exactly are the differences between the GTI and the GTI SE besides the power? Am I paying thousands more for the power alone?
First, you're conflating two different models. The base GTI (white and turquoise) is with the ACE 900 (90HP) engine. When you step up to the SE, you're paying for either the 130 or 170 from the larger ACE 1630 engine, added dash functions, as well as a folding swim step, a USB port, and BRP Premium Audio.
Why the 2020 GTI 170 only does 54 mph top speed when the 2019 GTI 155 does 58 with less hp? Can you explain please.
Kevin already explained it here: ua-cam.com/video/SroyIZWi2XU/v-deo.html
Wish Seadoo would offer a 170 hp version of the RXP-X or a GTI 170 on the TR-3 hull. My 170 hp FishPro will hit 60mph at 8000rpm with nothing on it but me. I really like the ST3 hull for its softer ride but it is twitchy in the rough stuff like you say. Running with trim all the way up for no trim ( straight through at the nozzle) makes it way less twitchy.
A naturally aspirated RXP-X? Interesting idea. Not sure it really has a place in the market, seeing as it's meant to be a high-performance race ski and 170 hp doesn't really fit that, but I'd be curious to see how it handles as well.
SeaDoo still offers a GTX 130 Pro…that gives you that hull on the cheap with some upgrades to toughen it as it’s the rental version and a tune will get you to 170
Kevin, how do you compare this to a vxr/gp1800r HO? They’re both the higher horsepower n/a machines available.
We don't. They're not intended to compete whatsoever. The GTI is meant to be a fun, playful yet stable platform for families. The VXR/GP HP is designed for aggressive handling/racing. Hull shape/material, weight, etc. are huge distinguishers.
I haven’t watched in a while but dang brother. Your gaining weight lol. This isn’t hate mail just saying I love your channel! So stay healthy my man :)
LOL! Jeez, man. We guess Kevin's got a New Year's resolution...
Tyler Lester at the end of the review he said he was cutting donuts. Give the man a break creeper.
Just got the 23 gti got half hr on it I change oil at 10 hrs break it in right I hot full throttle and it won't open up now I'm guessing 5hrs till that happens
So surprised at the top speed. My 2009 gti 155 goes 54
Again, like we said in the video this was a pre-production unit and is expected to see a top speed of 56-57mph at 8,000rpm.
60-65 would have been the magic number for me. Being that the 130 hits 50+. My guess with a tune it will get to 60-65 but they don’t want to cannibalize their super charge units.
Those are supercharged numbers for sure. You're not going to see 60 out of a N/A Sea-Doo.
The Watercraft Journal I get 59 out of my 2004 4tec 155. And no that’s not from the Sea-Doo Dreamometer. That’s on a police radar
@@watercraftjournal why would the new GTI not see 60 MPH? The old Kawasaki STF-15F which is both heavier and less powerful (160 HP) can do 58 - 60 MPH on GPS.
Would you recommend this or a Yamaha vx cruiser
if you're looking for reliability and easier maintenance Yamaha hands down. I've owned both and would never go back to Sea-Doo.
App Store the new GTI really looks like a solid contender with a lot of great features and versatility; it really depends on what attributes you value most.
I'd go for the cruiser high output. 1.8l faster ski than seadoo too
App Store yamaha has a great machine but I would go with the sea doo strictly for the attachment system. It's a game changer
What is the average fuel consumption on 170?
looking to get one. What is the actual difference between the GTI SE 170 and the GTX 170 ?
EVERYTHING is different but the powertrain.
The Watercraft Journal can you elaborate please is a 3K price difference worth it ?
Great Video!!!! Super Informative!! I'm torn I really like the creature comforts and features of the SEA DOO, plus there is a dealer right around the corner. I've never owned a PWC just lots of Sterndrive Boats too date. I keep hearing SEA DOO is unreliable. Is this true how bad are they? Should I just get the Yamaha VX HO?
The Yamaha VX HO was our selection for Watercraft of The Year last year for good reasons. Sea-Doos are reliable only as so far as you keep it properly maintained and don't operate it irresponsibly.
I went with the Yamaha VX HO,,,,It had more of what was important to me and the family. First it's a Yamaha, I've owned many Yamaha products ATV"s and dirt bikes mostly. I can't say I had any problems with any of them at all. I liked the looks better and it has more power they say. It's hard to tell for sure but the top end is quite a bit higher. Five to Seven miles an hour is a lot on the water. I will say the Sea Doo is Cool from a feature perspective but for me it wasn't enough to steer me away from what Is said to be a more reliable machine.
HardwoodHitman I love SD look and features. And closed loop cooling system on top of it...
@@hardwoodhitman5131 are you still enjoying the VX HO? Thinking bout getting one this year
How many gallons per hour gph at wide open throttle?
We estimate 5.6mpg. Official results are unavailable.
What happened to the GTI limited?
Sadly that was phased out a couple of years ago.
Both my gti 130s go 55mph... this is lighter (plastic) and more power but same speed... I have been waiting for the new GTI for a long time. I really want to know a real comparison of a 130 to a new 150 in real world fuel consumption.
It's all in the tune, obviously. Far better acceleration over last year but similar top speed (these were pre-production units of course, and were told we'd pick up 2-3mph and 300rpm).
@@watercraftjournal The tune? but its a different motor completely.
Yes. And it has an ECU tune, John. Sea-Doo tuned the new engine to perform similar to the outgoing 1503 Rotax. Acceleration is the outlier here, not top speed - because people who buy these aren't hot rodders.
I hit a consistent 58mph even in choppy water on my 170 (@7800rpm). I've been 60-61 on cold days on flat water. Riva tune will bump RPM up to 8100 and an extra 3mph
On the speedo or GPS? The factory speed is WAAAY off.
@@watercraftjournal this is on factory indicator...I'm not sure how good GPS speed apps are on a phone but could try that too
Your phone is demonstrably better. A dedicated GPS (Vbox or Garmin) is ideal.
Choppy ocean or lake/river?
Sea doo gti 170 very excalent
It's quickly becoming one of our favorites.
What's the fuel consumption in gph @ WOT and 35MPH?
We didn't have instrumentation to properly register that.
Got a brand new one. Not all that sable. Tilts to the left a lot. When not moving or moving under 10 m
Something's wrong because we still have ours (for longterm testing) and we can walk around this ski with zero issue.
@@watercraftjournal ...any suggestions on what it could be
Im so torn. Can someone.help me out.. i dont know which jet ski to go for.... im looking for a jet ski that can handle the ocean.. a ski that can go 50-60 mph... a ski that can pull a tube with ease.. and something not 16k.. idk if a gti or stx 160 .. i just dont know.
We've done LOTS of reviews. Check 'em out and make your own decision!
I hate that these have plastic hulls! It looks so cheap lol
Thankfully, BRP has created an infrastructure to quickly and cheaply repair and/or replace them for 2020. And - believe it or not - the final repair result is better than CM-Tech.
Gti 170 is nice
We like it!
What would you pick gti se 170 for 15.2k or gtx 170 for 18.5k Canadian including soundsystem and trailer option
The GTI is DEMONSTRABLY a superior hull design. The GTX rides on the ST3 hull, which is unpredictable at best, that is, without a lot of aftermarket support in the way of RIVA Pro-Series Sponsons and their Stage 1 intake grate.
I’m in between a new 2021 GTI 170 and a pre owned 2020 GTX LIMITED with 20 hours on it. I’ll be using with my wife and daughter, in SWFL.
Which one would you pick for the same price?
If you watched this video you would know our answer.
@@watercraftjournal just confirming: you do understand that I’m talking about the GTX 300 Limited for the same price as the GTI 170, right? 😱
Is the GTI that good to be better than the Limited 300? I know it’s an used 2020, but still.
I’ll take you word on it, as I think you are the best PWC reviewer out there 👏🏻
Yes, yes and yes.
Can you add the swim platform extension to this hull?
You mean, from the Fish Pro? No. Totally different model.
I am about to order my first Sea-Doo this week and once you have tried all of them I would like to ask your opinion... SE 170 or GTR 2020? Also, my local dealer offers for the same amount as the GTR a GTX 230 2019 model (not used) with the BRP sound system. Which one would you recommend to go for?
Yikes! There's a lot of questions to answer there. First, you need to decide what skill level you're at (and be honest!). Next, decide what features are more important to you. Then consider the type of riding you'll most often be doing. That'll help your decision-making process.
@The Watercraft Journal thank you for your reply, appreciate it. I am a rookie as I never owned a PWC before (just rented a few times). Most often I will be cruising to be honest.
Then THIS machine would be an ideal "entry" machine. Very comfortable, great storage, responsive, and just plain fun to ride. Plus, it's light and gets good mileage. If after a while you want more power, the GTR 230 will be waiting.
mate. get the gtr 230. its so much better, the gti is way tooooo sloooow. you will regret it.
2019 gtr 230 is faster than The 2020 fyi
7:54 how would you compare it to 2017 GTX 230/300?
Huh? Um, COMPLETELY NOT THE SAME SKI WHATSOEVER.
New to your channel and subscribed to your emails. Such a great resource. Watch your weekly live youtube talks also. have the 2020 wake 170. What would you do to improve engine performance and or acceleration ?
On a Wake 170? There's really nothing you can do without sacrificing reliability. Leave it alone and save up for a supercharged unit.
@@watercraftjournal thank you for your reply. Funny I was actually thinking about trading it in for a wake pro 230 but am worried about the reliability of a supercharged unit.
How does a ski with 170 horsepower only hit 54 when a Yamaha with 180 horsepower hits over 60
Easy: hull design and surface drag.
Is there a difference between the 130 and 170 other than a tune? I'm buying a 130 and was wondering if I could tune it to 170? Are the engine internals the same with both skis?
Just the tune. That’s it.
@@watercraftjournal thanks
@@watercraftjournal so if i have owned gti 130 and need to tune it 170, do have an idea about that tuning cost ?
so... in your expertise what would you choose? the S3 fiberglass hull or the GTI polytech?? i would love a GTX 170 body with a fiberglass GTI hull tbh
The GTI SE 170 is a superior ski to the GTX 170 in nearly every single facet.
Cuanto cuesta esa moto acuatica
No lo se. Mejor bescarlo a Google.
Has there been any rumors on how to reduce drag on the polytech hull? I see guys race them in Europe but not here. Thought about running one in Aqua X 200 since it's comfortable to ride.
Rumors? No, but there's been a few who've tried painting the hulls to give it a smooth surface. The problem is that Polytec flexes A LOT so most paint cracks and spiderwebs over time.
@@watercraftjournal pwcmucle made a mention in a video about polytech that a rumor believed to be from and engineer at seadoo claimed bumper filler works to smooth out the hull. I can't find any more back up information that supports this. I have reached out to them and in the mean time thought I would check with you if you heard anything similar.
I'm betting Joe was talking about HOW TO REPAIR Polytec, not smooth the surface.
Desde Colombia
People are going to hate when they have to change their battery
Why would they need to change the battery?
If they left the speakers on might kill the battery
No, no. Not at all! The ECU tracks the battery life while accessories like the speakers are running. It will automatically deactivate the speakers when it sees that battery life is running low (but not too low to start the Sea-Doo).
A Top Speed of 54mph. That's rubbish. I would of expected at least 62mph.
55mph @7700; this was a pre-production unit and the engineers did say that the showroom versions will pick up 300rpm and 2-3mph.
@@watercraftjournal totally assuming here but i bet the aftermarket will have a tune and or impeller swap to easily get this to or above 60 mph by next summer.
It has the be the hull design that slows that ski down. It should be over 60 with the HP especially since it’s in the lower 700 lbs. Using the Kawi STX15F as a reference, at 160hp and weighs over 800lbs, it will do 60-61 all day long. The hull shape has to be killing its top speed. I mean even if the production model if it tops at 57-58 is not off by much compared to others and most can’t tell the difference between 1 and 2 mph. The loss in top end is probably the trade off to better handling characteristics and stability compared to the Kawi 🤷🏻♂️. The Kawi does handle pretty good though 😂...
Certainly! But most folks who buy this machine aren't looking for top speed numbers. Why drop all that coin and void the warranty when you could go with the supercharged GTR 230?
The Watercraft Journal -yeah I totally agree. I was just surprised there is not a little more top end in that package especially with the engine upgrade versus last years model
This guy is NOT smart when it comes to Jetski’s!
FYI it's "jet skis" when talking about non-Kawasaki watercraft. "JetSki" is a trademarked name; "jet ski" is a common genericization.
Junk.
How so? Have you ridden one?
Not the brand new one but I used to like sinkdont till I got a brand new one a couple years ago and it had problems from the beginning with Lil things so it left for a yamaha plus sinkdont customer service is horrible these days they aren't like they used to be I guess got too big for themself.