I respectfully disagree with your opinion. No way Rutgers (#40) and UMD (#46) are tier 4 IMO. Admissions rate do not equate to quality or outcomes - and public universities are required to be accessible for their in-state residents instead of exclusive.
I have a bone to pick with Rutgers because, as you say, they have a duty to in-state residents. However Rutgers is ridiculous right now. My kid is a straight A student, AP classes up the wazoo, National Honor Society, killed it on the SAT, NJ Resident with both parents Rutgers alum and she just got waitlisted at Rutgers. Internet loaded with similar stories about it now. It's hardly a safety school, it seems they are putting themselves out of reach of most in-state. Admissions rates at RU are going to be tanking, watch.
@@carnacthemagnificent2498 I was accepted into Rutgers a few weeks ago. I have good grades but didn’t take many AP classes. Your child may have been waitlisted because there stats were to good for the school and the chances of them being accepting by a better school is higher. In short your child wasn’t accepted because Rutgers doesn’t want there acceptance rate to increase because it does help them in there ranking. In my opinion I think this is wrong but I believe this is the reason you child wasn’t accepted.
@@dandancer913 Nope, school just waitlisted her due to competition. No public school yield protects. If said student was a stellar student, he/she would have received an acceptance to the honors college.
Rutgers is ranked 40, yet this creator explicitly placed it in tier 4. Just goes to show that that is purely subjective and much to do about nothing. Students inherently have no experience and understand of the world around them and should focus on the best program for their career path rather than today's best brand which might not even offer the program for their chosen career. Said another way, show me a "smart" student who wants to go to Harvard for engineering and i will show you a fool.
@@harrychu650 A lot of public schools shot up disproportionally in the USnews rankings but realistically Rutgers isn't the 40th most presitigous/sought-after school.
@@mckinseyand2022 Tier 1 Stanford, MIT, Harvard. Tier 2 Princeton, Yale, Columbia. Tier 3 Caltech, Brown, Chicago, Duke, Cornell, Dartmouth, Penn, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins. Tier 4 just get the best bang for the buck at this point. Flagship State is just as good as any other school at this point.
Idk about other disciplines but UMD (U Maryland - College Park) is extremely selective in STEM, and it’s definitely tier 1. I’m going to UMD but also got accepted to UChicago and Northwestern for PhD EE/CS with very high honor awards at those schools (full tuition + $5xxxx/yr assistantship). I’m not sure about the general public, but to the world-class experts in many STEM fields, UMD is a big name, especially in CS/Physics/Math. When I presented and did the networking at several premier conferences in both CS and physical sciences (ICML, AMS, AGU), it’s super easy to break the ice by saying I’m an UMD student since those top people often know/has worked with several other top scientists from UMD. The same can be said for Berkeley, just that Berkeley is on their own league academically along with MIT/Stanford/Harvard. Berkeley is a huge name with extreme prestige and is mad respected by the most intelligent people on the planet but often overlooked by average folks.
According to U.S. News 2024 rankings of undergraduate programs among schools whose highest degree is a doctorate: #3 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (tie) >> #7 in Biomedical >> #4 in Chemical >> #1 in Civil >> #3 in Electrical / Electronic / Communications >> #1 in Environmental / Environmental Health >> #5 in Industrial / Manufacturing (tie) >> #2 in Materials (tie) >> #3 in Mechanical #2 in Business Programs (tie) >> #6 in Analytics (tie) >> #2 in Entrepreneurship >> #6 in Finance >> #8 in International Business >> #3 in Management >> #5 in Marketing >> #5 in Quantitative Analysis >> #4 in Real Estate (tie) #2 in Computer Science (tie) >> #4 in Artificial Intelligence >> #6 in Biocomputing/Bioinformatics/Biotechnology >> #3 in Computer Systems >> #5 in Cybersecurity >> #1 in Data Analytics/Science >> #6 in Mobile/Web Applications >> #9 in Programming Languages (tie) >> #4 in Software Engineering (tie) >> #2 in Theory (tie) #1 in Psychology Programs (tie) #1 in Economics (tie)
@@yuhoseok47 Berkeley also has the most top ranked or top 3 undergrad programs. Off the top of my head, they have the top business administration undergrad, top 3 CS, best civil engineering, best psychology, etc. us news ranks only a handful of undergrad programs and Berkeley does well in almost all of them. Furthermore, having the best graduate programs means you’re gonna have the best professors and grad students, who ultimately will be the ones working with you as an undergrad. I love my graduate school instructors (GSI). They were incredibly smart and motivated.
@@halea41 But overall they’re far worse? Departmental rankings are far less indicative of a schools prestige or how sought after it is. Unless if we want to use UMass’s linguistics ranking or UIowa’s writing ranking as indicators of their overall strength
@@adr77510 prestige comes from research, citations, faculty, school history, discoveries, innovations, etc, not freckled faced undergrads. And that’s what drives departmental rankings. Overall, they’re ranked #15 by U.S. news national ranking, #4 by U.S. news global ranking, #6 by Times Higher Education, #4 by QS, #4 by arwu, #2 by Forbes, #9 by Washington monthly, #4 by cwur. however, hated on my Wall Street journal at like #40 or something. That’s like five major rankings they’re in the top 10 and a few where they’re top 5. Umass and Iowa’s strong linguistic department helps their overall prestige. Now, imagine having 34 top ten programs, including a score of number ones and 10-15 top 3s and 5s? Did you get rejected by Berkeley or something? How can you be this irrational? Berkeley is one of the world’s most famous universities . It’s always mentioned in movies.
You have to base it on majors and departments Like, Rutgers, for example, has an amazing CS and engineering department, Liberty has a great game development program What's a tier 1 is gonna be different for me as it would for others. Some schools surprisingly get harder to get into, the higher the reputation a department gets Or hell, the stock of a college could rise as you get into said college (happened with me doing IT game dev at NJIT from 2012-2016, program was new but it was relatively on par with something you'd see at other game PROGRAMMING CS programs, and it blended in super well for me when I went into software engineering when I graduated) Using NJIT as an example, you could easily get in for history or theater But hands down would it be MUCH harder getting into their biomedical engineering program. It depends on the majors, lol
you can argue that it's in the higher tier, but best University in the US are private schools, it's not in the same tier as Harvard, UPenn or Columbia, or even WashU.
UMD is not a tier 4 school, its acceptance rate is 40% and rutgers & temple both have acceptance rates 20-30% higher than UMD yet are in the same category. It should also be noted that a public 40% accpt rate is more comp than a lot of privates aritifically inflated lower accpt rate and that can be measured by the GPA, SAT score, and income outcomes out of college which are all measured by usnews. UMD is a t45 institution and a flagship state worth its salt.
In fact, apart from some universities in tier 2, there's no big problem. Rutgers University is an ordinary university for people living in the area. Of course, it's a good choice
Lot of ignorance in this video,Rutgers and UMD is way hard for normal student now. Many I know with 3.8 and many APs with good SAT are rejected or waitlisted same with UMD. USNEWS is gold standard of ranking, go refer there.
Penn is better than most Ivies (like Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth) and rivals other top non-Ivies like UChicago, Stanford, Hopkins, and Duke
@@franknota4941 People are more likely to know UAlabama or OSU than most of the Ivies. Name recognition doesn't determine how strong a school is. Penn has been recently found to consistently deliver more opportunities, deliver greater social mobility and ROI turnouts, have better professors and resources, have higher peer respect, and create more research and academia accomplishments than Columbia.
I respectfully disagree with your opinion. No way Rutgers (#40) and UMD (#46) are tier 4 IMO. Admissions rate do not equate to quality or outcomes - and public universities are required to be accessible for their in-state residents instead of exclusive.
I have a bone to pick with Rutgers because, as you say, they have a duty to in-state residents. However Rutgers is ridiculous right now. My kid is a straight A student, AP classes up the wazoo, National Honor Society, killed it on the SAT, NJ Resident with both parents Rutgers alum and she just got waitlisted at Rutgers. Internet loaded with similar stories about it now. It's hardly a safety school, it seems they are putting themselves out of reach of most in-state. Admissions rates at RU are going to be tanking, watch.
@@carnacthemagnificent2498 I was accepted into Rutgers a few weeks ago. I have good grades but didn’t take many AP classes. Your child may have been waitlisted because there stats were to good for the school and the chances of them being accepting by a better school is higher. In short your child wasn’t accepted because Rutgers doesn’t want there acceptance rate to increase because it does help them in there ranking. In my opinion I think this is wrong but I believe this is the reason you child wasn’t accepted.
Agreed no program matches physics at umd
@@monsterra4841 no other school matches them? That's delusional.
@@dandancer913 Nope, school just waitlisted her due to competition. No public school yield protects. If said student was a stellar student, he/she would have received an acceptance to the honors college.
Clearly this person has no clue how difficult it is to get into eg UCSD or Rutgers for computer science or engineering
UCSD yes but Rutgers is quite easy to get into. I got in myself for Biomedical Engineering
I agree she is not saying the accurate info
cope
Tier1 - US News Ranking Top 20
Tier2 - US News Top 40
Tier3 - US News Top 60
Tier4 - US News Top 100
Rutgers is ranked 40, yet this creator explicitly placed it in tier 4. Just goes to show that that is purely subjective and much to do about nothing. Students inherently have no experience and understand of the world around them and should focus on the best program for their career path rather than today's best brand which might not even offer the program for their chosen career.
Said another way, show me a "smart" student who wants to go to Harvard for engineering and i will show you a fool.
That tier is horribly wrong!
@@harrychu650 A lot of public schools shot up disproportionally in the USnews rankings but realistically Rutgers isn't the 40th most presitigous/sought-after school.
@@mckinseyand2022
Tier 1 Stanford, MIT, Harvard.
Tier 2 Princeton, Yale, Columbia.
Tier 3 Caltech, Brown, Chicago, Duke, Cornell, Dartmouth, Penn, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins.
Tier 4 just get the best bang for the buck at this point. Flagship State is just as good as any other school at this point.
@@cl10367 You are calling Ivey league schools tier 3? odd
Rutgers and Maryland tier 4??? Those are
prestigious schools.
They are not at the same level as WashU, Berkely, UCLA.
I agree some of the programs in engineering and accelerated BS/Md program in Rutgers is competitive.
bruh their acceptance rate is like 50%, that is not impressive AT ALL
@@qwertyuiop2161acceptance rate doesn’t mean anything in terms of their BS/MD program, it is highly competitive
Exactly right! I'm a Rutgers alum!
Idk about other disciplines but UMD (U Maryland - College Park) is extremely selective in STEM, and it’s definitely tier 1. I’m going to UMD but also got accepted to UChicago and Northwestern for PhD EE/CS with very high honor awards at those schools (full tuition + $5xxxx/yr assistantship). I’m not sure about the general public, but to the world-class experts in many STEM fields, UMD is a big name, especially in CS/Physics/Math. When I presented and did the networking at several premier conferences in both CS and physical sciences (ICML, AMS, AGU), it’s super easy to break the ice by saying I’m an UMD student since those top people often know/has worked with several other top scientists from UMD.
The same can be said for Berkeley, just that Berkeley is on their own league academically along with MIT/Stanford/Harvard. Berkeley is a huge name with extreme prestige and is mad respected by the most intelligent people on the planet but often overlooked by average folks.
Since when did Berkeley become tier 2 ☠️☠️☠️
It has like 34 top 10 department and like 15 top five departments. It should be tier 1.
@@halea41those department rankings are for grad programs. There is a huge gap between undergrad and grad, especially in state schools like Berkeley.
According to U.S. News 2024 rankings of undergraduate programs among schools whose highest degree is a doctorate:
#3 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (tie)
>> #7 in Biomedical
>> #4 in Chemical
>> #1 in Civil
>> #3 in Electrical / Electronic / Communications
>> #1 in Environmental / Environmental Health
>> #5 in Industrial / Manufacturing (tie)
>> #2 in Materials (tie)
>> #3 in Mechanical
#2 in Business Programs (tie)
>> #6 in Analytics (tie)
>> #2 in Entrepreneurship
>> #6 in Finance
>> #8 in International Business
>> #3 in Management
>> #5 in Marketing
>> #5 in Quantitative Analysis
>> #4 in Real Estate (tie)
#2 in Computer Science (tie)
>> #4 in Artificial Intelligence
>> #6 in Biocomputing/Bioinformatics/Biotechnology
>> #3 in Computer Systems
>> #5 in Cybersecurity
>> #1 in Data Analytics/Science
>> #6 in Mobile/Web Applications
>> #9 in Programming Languages (tie)
>> #4 in Software Engineering (tie)
>> #2 in Theory (tie)
#1 in Psychology Programs (tie)
#1 in Economics (tie)
@@yuhoseok47 Berkeley also has the most top ranked or top 3 undergrad programs. Off the top of my head, they have the top business administration undergrad, top 3 CS, best civil engineering, best psychology, etc. us news ranks only a handful of undergrad programs and Berkeley does well in almost all of them. Furthermore, having the best graduate programs means you’re gonna have the best professors and grad students, who ultimately will be the ones working with you as an undergrad. I love my graduate school instructors (GSI). They were incredibly smart and motivated.
@@jamesdupre9985 nice.
this is crazy talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tier 1 highly accurate. Thank you much. Have a good week!
None of those schools in tier 2 are tier 2. They are all tier 1. With Berkeley being higher on the tier 1 list
Thank you. Go bears!
This is the first year in like ten years that Berkeley has ranked in the top 20. Heavy disagree
@@adr77510 Berkeley has more top ten departments than any university not named Harvard
@@halea41 But overall they’re far worse? Departmental rankings are far less indicative of a schools prestige or how sought after it is. Unless if we want to use UMass’s linguistics ranking or UIowa’s writing ranking as indicators of their overall strength
@@adr77510 prestige comes from research, citations, faculty, school history, discoveries, innovations, etc, not freckled faced undergrads. And that’s what drives departmental rankings. Overall, they’re ranked #15 by U.S. news national ranking, #4 by U.S. news global ranking, #6 by Times Higher Education, #4 by QS, #4 by arwu, #2 by Forbes, #9 by Washington monthly, #4 by cwur. however, hated on my Wall Street journal at like #40 or something. That’s like five major rankings they’re in the top 10 and a few where they’re top 5. Umass and Iowa’s strong linguistic department helps their overall prestige. Now, imagine having 34 top ten programs, including a score of number ones and 10-15 top 3s and 5s? Did you get rejected by Berkeley or something? How can you be this irrational? Berkeley is one of the world’s most famous universities . It’s always mentioned in movies.
Lmao this video is cap
Where do the "tiers" come from and what makes the source reputable and reliable?
Case Western tier 3??
What is even the criteria being used to determine this??
None. This woman is just trying to get rizz
in what world is maryland and rutgers in tier 4? def tier 3. are these indian mom rankings? lol
Tier 4 for Rutgers is correct.
Princeton’90
@@princetonscholar5723 RU '09 and i'm richer than you are :). Net worth: $7m
@ That’s sounds like a Rutgers grad making assumptions re: net worth. You’re not even close.
@@princetonscholar5723 lol na you're petty, so you're not close.
@ Look like that Princeton degree got to you. Sorry, not my fault Rutgers is 4th tier.
You have to base it on majors and departments
Like, Rutgers, for example, has an amazing CS and engineering department, Liberty has a great game development program
What's a tier 1 is gonna be different for me as it would for others.
Some schools surprisingly get harder to get into, the higher the reputation a department gets
Or hell, the stock of a college could rise as you get into said college (happened with me doing IT game dev at NJIT from 2012-2016, program was new but it was relatively on par with something you'd see at other game PROGRAMMING CS programs, and it blended in super well for me when I went into software engineering when I graduated)
Using NJIT as an example, you could easily get in for history or theater
But hands down would it be MUCH harder getting into their biomedical engineering program. It depends on the majors, lol
Fun to watch and interesting!
Thank you! :)
@melinakim Berkeley is the best public university in the country and may as well be of the world, it's not a tier 2 school, its a tier 1
you can argue that it's in the higher tier, but best University in the US are private schools, it's not in the same tier as Harvard, UPenn or Columbia, or even WashU.
Chill out mate. Berkeley is no where near the level of Princeton
@@pyeuneu Berkley is number 5 in the world cuh
Very interesting. Actually you're right about those, I think
Should I consider Notre Dame as Tier 2 or Tier 1?
yes
It’s a shame to put UC Berkeley in Tier 2. Already insulting people but saying it’s not an insult.
Where would you place West Point on this list?
Tier 20 because it is a military school
which tier would ucla or nyu be in?
Realce helpful thanks! Only one questions, which tiers are community college on?
would be 5 i imagine
According to this post, it would be tier 8
UMD is not a tier 4 school, its acceptance rate is 40% and rutgers & temple both have acceptance rates 20-30% higher than UMD yet are in the same category. It should also be noted that a public 40% accpt rate is more comp than a lot of privates aritifically inflated lower accpt rate and that can be measured by the GPA, SAT score, and income outcomes out of college which are all measured by usnews. UMD is a t45 institution and a flagship state worth its salt.
What tier is texas state?
In fact, apart from some universities in tier 2, there's no big problem. Rutgers University is an ordinary university for people living in the area. Of course, it's a good choice
University of Maryland is a tier 4 school? Its is so selective!
What she, as an Asian, means is it's in a black area so it's a tier 4...
umd so low
Where would University of Miami (Coral Gables) fall on this list? They used to be rated #49 now they are #63.
High end of tier 3
Arizona State University which tier ??
6
What about BU
I would say its Tier 2. Its ranking is ~40 give or take. Peer schools would be BC, NYU
Rutgers and Maryland are literally 1 and 2 in terms of best academic public universities in the Northeast.
hold on there world famous uc berkeley is tier 2? damn
Omg I got my application to the graduate preview event accepted at a tier 1 school! My impostor syndrome is flaring up so much right now!
Mississippi college is in which tier
Tier 30 what even is a Mississippi
bro UMD computer science has 600 spots with a 5% acceptance rate and is top 20 💀
Hence why it should go one tier lower
@@TRISTANT49 lower? it's a top 20 computer science program?
@@danielkazanov7209 it was joke cuz this list is so 💩💩💩
Please someone tell me about these...
University of alabama at Birmingham
Arizona State University
Illinois State University
ASU is Tier 4 according to this definition. It is not hard to get into and has produced the highest rates of pornstars of any college.
this is a ranking on selectivity
Lot of ignorance in this video,Rutgers and UMD is way hard for normal student now. Many I know with 3.8 and many APs with good SAT are rejected or waitlisted same with UMD. USNEWS is gold standard of ranking, go refer there.
Asian tiger-mom tiers? Rutgers that low? Come on.
Saying WashU can be a safety school for anyone is crazy☠️☠️☠️
02:20 legacy admissions to the tier 1 have joined the chat....
There are more colleges in the city i live in than were mentioned in this video.
Case western is at least tier 2 by your definition
very low quality video and no sources cited. most people would disagree with some of the classifications.
Fake as hell … U of Maryland is not tier 4 it’s become more competitive so
Nice vid!😊
Thank you!☺️
@@MelinaKimuniversity of Southern California LA comes in which tier
❤️
where is bu
3 or 4
@@wlkemdwnandstndonbnss 2
@@wlkemdwnandstndonbnss Boston University?
my bad I had it backwards. 2 or 3 @@danielsouroujon4650
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What dumb 🌮?😅
@@danielrodas4489 Donde estudiaste tu?
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Sorry this video missed the mark. comparisons are amateur and repetitive…and based on zero facts. Just opinion.
Berkeley is tier 1.5, ucla and usc is tier 2
How about uva
Not true at all
Where is notre dame?
Tier 2
Tier 1
I went to USC
What a crock.. where are you getting your data from?
I think she has 10 tiers and listed only 5 out of 10. LOL
You go to school/college, get degree, might get a job .. and wait until you become old and die..m wow
Stanford deveria estar ai
she does not know enough
UCSD tier 3 ? 😂😂
Mechanical Engineering & Medical surgeons 👌. Fast money 💰
I think you are misguided
U Penn is not considered a Tier 1 to most ivy league students.
Penn is better than most Ivies (like Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth) and rivals other top non-Ivies like UChicago, Stanford, Hopkins, and Duke
@@adr77510Penn is not better than Columbia lmao, just the business school
@@franknota4941 Penn has ranked better than columbia on almost every metric for the last five years
@ that’s cute but we’re talking about 250+ years of history, not five. People globally recognize Columbia more than Penn
@@franknota4941 People are more likely to know UAlabama or OSU than most of the Ivies. Name recognition doesn't determine how strong a school is. Penn has been recently found to consistently deliver more opportunities, deliver greater social mobility and ROI turnouts, have better professors and resources, have higher peer respect, and create more research and academia accomplishments than Columbia.
UMD is sure tier 4