Exactly! Sometimes im in the middle of a show/movie and my internet cuts out. Nothing beats throwing a dvd in and not having to worry about the internet connection messing up the experience
@@Bdot888 yup, you got that right, and that is why I am collecting now...the streaming is so unreliable and disappointing as it is only a matter of time when it's going to cut out. Sometimes when watching one movie, it will cut out 15x. Earlier this year, my internet service went up over 40 percent, I had to buy a new device for the SIM card, and the quality of streaming went south...go figure
@@splash4891 Exactly! And not just the internet services, but also the streaming services are going down in quality. Nothing beats uncompressed 4k discs that dont cut out on you
@@Bdot888 yes the streaming is the worst..I can't stand it anymore (it's as bad as having commercials interruptions every 4 min., and in many ways, I just want to be off the grid and not have to rely on the behemoths for my utilities). I have just started reading up on CDs, DVDs, 4K, blluray etc,. but did not know about the uncompressed 4k, I will have to check that out.
@@splash4891 well technically its still compressed but you get way more bandwidth than a 4k stream. So the quality of the 4k disc will always be better
Physical media is still the absolute superior way to view films . Streaming can't touch bluray or 4k UHD . I am reminded of that every time I steam for several hours then switch over to disc .
True. Plus, our young kids who grow up in this digital era simply LOVE opening the case, taking out the DVD and carefully putting it into the XBox. Sometimes they have fights over whose turn it is. :-)
@Smurf Mafia No its not because we want to justify hoarding movies. Thats just dumb. Most people collect movies. They don't hoard. Would you call baseball card collectors hoarders? People don't invest in video and audio setups to wait for the streaming to catch up. Maybe it will but will the cost of streaming go up? What happens when the network has issues? What happens when the movie you want to see is removed from the provider's library because its not as popular or they lose the rights? Netflix isn't streaming movies for your benefit but for their profit. Why do you assume media would go to 8k? Most people may not even go to 8k. When you go from HD to blu-ray and then to 4k there is a noticeable difference. 4k to 8k improvement in picture may not be as noticeable as much. I think you would need a bigger tv and i doubt if most people would want or be able to fit a 120" tv in their living room. It might make sense for theaters.
Good video. As a person who has been collecting for over 20 years, I can really appreciate having a "library " of films without worrying if it's going to be censored or removed. I believe in preserving these films buy purchasing them. Streaming is great for "convenience " but not so great for always finding what you are looking for (Especially older films).
@Steven Lee I know we can't take these films with us when we die, but as long as I am alive I will continue to watch them as they were originally intended.
No streaming service offers the same breadth of choices as physical media. Sure you can sign up for 17 different steaming services just to get all the content. If it wasn't so limited and controlled then I would gladly sign up for a service. But since legal rights and other issues constantly shift where the content is, it's really not worth it the hassle to use streaming services. So much easier to just pick up the movie/documentary/anime you like and watch.
I can relate to your comment Daniel. Collecting anything has a certain fun and satisfying element to it. I like reading the included books or back of the case. Even the way something is packaged can be fun. Then there is all the bonus features. Plus, the streamed high definition isn't always as good as the physical copy. Like you said about censorship, I do worry about things being not available anymore or them being censored. I have even saw reviews of dvd's and blu-rays where they mentioned the color in an animated movie was not being true to the original or a past release. I do have streaming services and they are Great and a good way to check something out before I buy it. There is a preserving aspect to it as well. There are many shows and movies, mostly older ones, that would be lost forever if they weren't found in a private collection. Plus you can be in a group that collect horror, sci-fi or silent films or shows just to name a few.
@Steven Lee But why pay money every month for movies you don't even own on streaming sites when you can buy with one payment a blu-ray or a 4K and it yours forever.
I think it's just human nature. People like surrounding themselves with things they love. People, pictures of loved ones, paintings, books, films, music etc. It's about creating an environment that comforts you and makes you happy. Also "collecting" things gives you something to do when you have nothing to do. Hobbies reduces stress.
"Why I still..........." = I live for music, High-End stereos and I ONLY listen to physical media. CD & SACD. I NEVER stream or even listen to radio. Physical media Rules!! Long Live Mr. Physical!!
I love collecting DVDs. I get to choose what I watch and when without thinking it could be removed. I enjoy having a physical collection that I can go back to and look at and simply appreciate it.
Started collecting physical media in the 1976 with my first album that I bought. Didn't really buy many VHS because of owning cassette tapes that they will just wore out. I own around 1000 CDs, 100s of albums and over 1000 DVDs, blu ray and now 4k. This channel has gotten me excited about 4k so I bought an LG oled, 4k player and now looking at a new receiver. When I started buying blu rays like most individuals started with my favorites. That didn't last long. Physical media to me is a library, a reference of history to be able share it with others.
I just got my first 4k TV (Sony OLED) and 4k disc player. So far, I've been able to tell a difference between 4k discs and streaming 4k. I was skeptical but there really is a difference in the picture quality. I also worry about buying digital copies of movies as there isn't a guarantee the digital copies will be available for my lifetime.
That’s an interesting point. I have “bought” digital movies off Amazon, but if I were to cancel Amazon Prime, would my access to those movies I purchased go away?
@@mattmardigan You will still have access to your movies. My concern is what if Amazon or whatever company goes away? Sounds impossible now, but what happens to your digital purchases if the unforeseeable happens?
I still collect physical media because I love actually owning the movie that you can watch anytime without having to be online. With streaming services you have to always be online, if it goes off, you can’t watch anything, also shows go off and on streaming services all the time so your never promised to have a movie you like always on there.
you are spot on...but for those who don't see this.. its only a matter of time where everything will be rental/membership based "you will own nothing and be happy"
Its more engaging as well. When you play a vinyl album you are more likely to pay attention to the music as you have to get up and turn the album over. Same with physical media as you have to put the movie in and take it out. So usually you are prepared to watch the movie and enjoy it. You are not just surfing through movies till you get tired or bored with it. People invest in their audio and video equipment to get the best experience with their content. Not to have buffering issues, network issues, trying to find digital content that was removed. Streaming is fine for when i just wanna watch a something on the road or waste some time. But when i want to enjoy a movie at home i want the best quality for my experience.
@@user-sb1vz9pv5y this is really well said what you wrote here (and wise) we make an investment w/our time and the money spent on the purchase of a movie, so we are more committed to our actions...one thing I am concerned about however, is when the movie player acts up, I suppose having two is the way to go (one for backup)
Not everyone carries all the subscriptions. It takes a financially irresponsible person to do that. Most people I know only carry either Netflix, Hbo, or Disney+ and then just rotate between them every month or two.
@@Deepthoughtsabound In 1997 I purchased the Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition Laser Disc Box Set ($120 USD). I watched it just twice over the years and stillI keep it on display. I saw A New Hope when it was first released to movie theaters in 1977. I was 9 years old. I even had the bed sheets & pillow cases. C-3PO was my favorite droid.
@@ericlozen9631 If you still have a CRT television, that box set has outstanding picture, and if you have an AC3 decoder the surround sound is phenomenal! The DTS discs are less common but easier to decode their house rattling surround, with terrific picture.
@@kubrickenigma7977 The last time I watched them was in 1999 or 2000. I had a 36" Toshiba CRT TV. It was a monstrous beast and weighed over 200 lbs. I quit using those TV formats in 2013. That's when I purchased my first flat screen. When I watched LD's back then I was using an Onkyo Dolby Digital 5.1 A/V receiver. I was using Klipsch bookshelf speakers for my front mains and rear surrounds. I also had a dedicated 12" 150 watt powered subwoofer. It was a fairly modest system. More importantly though was that it sounded very good during Dolby Digital 5.1 playback. Dolby Pro Logic even sounded good, relatively speaking. Today I have a 4K 7.1.4 home theater system. I'm using a 75" flat screen; which is nearly 1/3 the weight (without the stand) of my old 36" CRT. I have the Skywalker Saga 4K Box Set. Unless someone is a serious 4K Blu-ray collector like myself, I don't reccomend buying this because of the price. You can save a lot of money by purchasing each movie individually.
I am also a collector. Have arround 3000 movies ( DVD, blu-ray and 4K ) . It started with Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Chuck Norris, John Wayne, Clint Eastwood and even now a day martial arts movies and western movies are the first choice but Star Wars and movies with good action plus story, i collect. I love youre channel and keep sending video's. Greetings from the Netherlands.
I remember the first time i was surprised by an edited movie while streaming. At that moment I knew I had to get my favorites on physical. Thank you for this video!
I collect physical and stream. Both have their pro’s and con’s. I think my obsession with owning physical (dvd, vinyl records, books, etc) got elevated in a time in my life when I was broke. It was a nice security blanket that if I ever were in a serious pinch, I knew I could sell off some stuff for a few hundred to possibly a thousand bucks. You can’t really re-sell a digital copy of media to anyone (not yet at least). It’s also a combination of nostalgia of collecting things and the in your hand feel of physical that is hard for many people to understand. Was it Stan Lee that said something like boobs are nice on the computer screen but their better in your hand in reference to digital comics. Now there’s still the nostalgia, the physical factor, etc. but also supporting things I like. I like horror. If horror sells well, they make a lot more of it.
There's a huge corporate push to make you pay 'rent' on things that you purchase. Everything from streaming service, to paying a car manufacturer an additional monthly fee so that the key remote will function. It's the same scam as selling printers for $50, and the refill ink for $100. They're all trying to convert EVERYTHING into this 'rent' payment system, just to use things that you thought you owned. This is enough reason for me to stick to buying physical media... and frankly avoid any corporate scam products that require 'rent'.
the Stan Lee quote usually goes "Comics are like boobs... they look good on a computer, but I'd rather hold one in my hand." i can’t find anywhere reputable that actually cites when/where he said it but it’s been attributed to him on the internet for several years
I am still sad that I sold my vinyl that I inherited from my parents. I could never afford to replace mono Stones, Jimi and Zep etc... I've started buying movies and books lately. I got in on hd-dvd, and lost the battle, so it made me gunshy to buy any of it. I have found some awesome, collectible sets lately for $0.50. It really got me rolling again.
Great start. Very informative, measured and interesting. Jeff, you're a great resource for all media, not just physical. You have an engaging personality and deliver relevant information in a very easy to watch and enjoyable method. I appreciate your passion and commitment to physical media. I've worked in film and video professionally for 32 years now and can tell you when you go to film festivals, you encounter people that are passionate and love cinema. It's a cool group to be around and I think you capture that on your main channel. Thank you for taking on this new opportunity. I have thousands of movies on VHS(very few), Laser Disk, DVD, BluRay and 4K and always enjoy someone that taps into that movie magic that you can play for your friends. Be well.
Man, I just finished watching this 1st ep, and I gotta say that u hit it out of the ballpark. I totally agree with you 1 thousand million percent. I love your content and am a avid supporter of your channel. U got a fan 4 life Jeff. I will be watching .
I’m not too worried about physical media in the long run. I’m more worried about the players being obsolete in the future. Btw awesome content keep up the great work!
Have the same problems at my theaters. I try to just go on slow days, avoid peak times, and more often then not you get a couple or a group come in 15 minutes late, sit right behind you and whisper the whole movie, or kids in front of you on their phones, snap chatting or w/e they do these days during the whole movie. It's really sad.
Llevo 15 años coleccionando películas, simplemente es la mejor forma de disfrutar el cine en casa por la calidad y colección, amo el cine y me encanta tu canal, saludos desde Chile!
You hit all the physical media points and especially seeing movies uncut so for me to see a good copy of the unrated perfect blue I had to get the DVD and it was worth it!
Jeff, I recently upgraded my room to 4K and had The Matrix be my debut 4K movie to watch. SHEESH the quality is insanely good. Now more than ever I am for physical media and I really appreciate the content you produce. I’m looking forward to future episodes of your podcast!
Harry Potter 4k collection was my indoctrination into 4k. The Spells and everything just comes to life especially in the later films. I made the jump from dvd to 4k and it was like watching the films for the first time as kid. It's not very often you get to relive something as if it was for the first time.
Holy crap, I didn't expect to watch this whole thing. Didn't even know physical media like DVDs/BluRays had a "community" or enthusiasts It was super interesting to hear your thoughts on what future trends may look like and gaining an understanding of the current landscape of media
Congrats, man! It’ll be nice to be able to listen to some movie talk without having to keep my phone open, but I’m still going to try and actually watch when I can. Just to add my 2 cents, I swore off collecting physical media for a bit- I have access to most streaming services at this point and didn’t really see the point, but the quality just doesn’t compare. Even when steaming something in 4K, the discs just look better. And having a shelf full of movies and grabbing one to watch is indeed a very nostalgic and pleasing experience.
I recently stopped streaming so I can start building a 4k collection. After watching my Harry Potter collection on 4k... I'm now a fan again of Physical Media. I made the jump from dvd - 4k. I never owned blu-rays movies so this is my first time having to rebuy on a new format.
This is awesome! I am glad that I found your channel. I am also a collector. My collection is not huge like yours, but I have 500+ titles. It blew my mind to hear you mention Bullmoose! I shop at the one in Salem, NH. I'm looking forward to watching all of your videos. Thanks for what you are doing!
I bought my first "Hi-Fi VHS" player when I was in high school and loved watching movies and still remember watching Jurassic Park for the first time on there. Moved on to a home theater in a box to my current 7.1.2 system. Can't say I have thousands but probably hundreds and love watching movies. Takes me to another place.
We have a massive used media store here in town and last night, I overheard a woman returning some movies because "They were on HBO Max". I had to grit my teeth as I continued to look through the racks...
I use streaming as a reference/research for future bluray purchases. For convenience it can't be beat. For quality and lifetime access I choose physical media. The packaging, the cover art, the inserts and booklets are tangible incentives that streaming doesn't offer.
You got me collecting got 247 Blu rays 8-4ks and over 200 DVDs so happy yes I started late on in life. but love the fact once I buy a movie I have it for life 👍
I love your UA-cam channel and this was a great first podcast. Congratulations on starting a new podcast! I still collect physical media because I can watch it anytime even if internet is down.
You are the biggest channel of all physical media channels I watch on UA-cam probably this will take you to the next level Congratulations on the podcast
Thank you for the great video, I've only started to collect for the past 3 months and I'm loving it. Physical media from where I come from is quite small compared to other countries around the world which is sad. But I'm always trying to find new movies to add before there's nothing better then opening a fresh Blu-ray and experiencing that specific movie. Also you just gained another subscriber.
Loving the longer content bro, thanks for what you do, you’re my go to for pushing me over the edge or making me hold off on buying a film on disc, thanks again
Congratulations on your first podcast. I agree with everything you said. I have been collecting fir many years. I now have over 8500 disc's. Looking forward to see what you have in the future. One other major issue I have is that there are many movies and series that will never make it to streaming. I also love the idea to share with my friends and family who want to see something they remember when they were young. Also I find more movies I want from other countries to watch on physical media then I ever could find on any platform.
This was great!!! I echo the same sentiment. I was thinking this morning that I really miss the old days when I went to Tower Records and came out with a lot of VHS and then DVD. I really hope I can go into a store again and just browse again
So much of what you’ve said hits home with me. I remember when electronic readers came out and people were saying physical books were going away. I knew they wouldn’t go away for me because of the physical experience of holding a book, the texture of the covers and pages, the smell of the paper, etc. It was hammered home when I read of the experience of a gentleman who “purchased” an electronic version of a favorite book. He read it, made notations, all of that. Then, for some reason, the book vanished. I (and he) don’t know why, maybe a loss of license, whatever. But the book was gone. Along with all of his notations. The same thing hit me with streaming services. I’m sure we’ve all seen how movies “come to” the service and then, after a while, it’s no longer available. Again, maybe it’s a licensing issue. I don’t care. The point is, if I pay for a movie, I expect to be able to watch it when I want to, and not have to search on a different streaming service (and pay for it again!). Another issue I’ve noticed is that versions can be different between the streaming service and physical copies of the movie. One example: on one version (I can’t remember which) of “Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol 2”, when Quill is talking to Gamora about Sam Cooke on one version he says (incorrectly), “…Sam Cooke is one of the greatest BANDS…”. On the other media he says (correctly), “…Sam Cooke is one of the greatest SINGERS…”. Granted, it’s a slight change, but to one who is an avid collector of music, saying Cooke was a band completely took me out of the movie. The point is the movie has been altered. And then there's the thought, "What else has been changed?" Also, talking about people in the theaters. When you said, “Why are you there?” genuinely hit home. A couple years ago, I went on vacation, flew First Class to St. Louis to watch a three-game set with Philadelphia. I went all out. Spent money for a hotel within walking distance of the stadium. Got seats in the high-dollar section (behind Home Plate). The works. Seated in front of me was a person who was on their phone constantly. Not just between pitches, between batters, between innings. Constantly. I mean, who spends $250.00 per ticket to sit there on their phone? Okay, it’s none of my business, I just thought, what a waste. So, yeah. I’m building my physical media collection. Bit by bit. One at a time. Sometimes two. I just don’t know where I’ll be putting them in my apartment, though.
Great points... maybe you would consider putting your movies in a CD storage binder, to save space? Or get some furniture with storage or hidden storage.
Loved your take on physical media. The main reason I talked about in my video was censorship. I have made several videos about that exact same thing since as well. Bravo to you for speaking your mind about it.
Hey Jeff, I listened to the podcast and it's a great start. Thanks for your insight and passion for physical media. You've re-ignited my interest in physical media.
Great, timely topic, Jeff!! I have been collecting for over 30 years now, starting with VHS, then slowly upgrading favorite films to DVD over the last 15 -- 20 years, mainly because I kept finding so many used copies of DVDs and Blu Rays in thrift stores, yard sales, and flea markets, etc. for $1 - $2. Since 2010, I have been acquiring more blu rays, and now a few 4K discs as well, but it was the discovery of boutique labels (Arrow, Indicator, etc. ) and limited editions that really caused my collection to explode in the last 5 years, now reaching over 10,000. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID, JEFF, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE IMPORTANCE OF OWNING PHYSICAL MEDIA. WELL DONE, MY FRIEND!!
I enjoyed the podcast and format you put together. I have a LOT of blurays, 4k, dvds and even still some HD-DVDs so I am with you on the physical ownership of media!
I’ve been going back and forth on letting go of my video game collection but this video really made me think twice and I’m most definitely going to hold on to them. Also agree with your thoughts entirely on the at-home experience vs movie theaters.
Congratulations on the podcast! You should look into getting John from the Movie Collector UA-cam channel as a guest. He has a great knowledge of film and how it can be best presented at home.
Everything you said, is literally exactly why I still collect movies. My collection isn’t nearly as extensive as yours, but it definitely grows over time with dedication. Trust me, as long as there’s still people willing to pay, physical media will always be around!!
I've been collecting movies since '79 started with Beta and Worked my way to 4k. Got the itch so to say with my Grandfather being a writer for westerns, High Chaparral, Bonanza and Little House On the Prairie among others this gave me my introduction to Westerns John Wayne and Clint Eastwood my first recorded movie on VHS was The Good The Bad and The Ugly. Also my father worked for Technicolor so through that company we got to see Jaws, Raiders and more as company Christmas perks and such for the employees. The last factor to this collecting bug was that I saw The Exorcist when I was 8 in '75 and Halloween in November of '78 giving my a lifelong passion for Horror. My collecting was going at a leisurely pace until the late 80's when VHS became more prevalent and I could own original copies of films for around $20 before this most films were upwards of $80, I believe my father paid this price for Jaws, Star Wars and lost classic Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (which I lost on beta and never upgraded like the others). My collecting skyrocketed with my marriage since my wife is the great niece of Alfred Hitchcock and fueled my desire even more. While I don't mind streaming the myriad of services available can be overwhelming and rather expensive, so I prefer the physical copy over streaming. In total I have somewhere in the vicinity of 6000 films over many formats, I started 4K upgrades and collecting about a year ago with my favorite movies and have 100+ titles and several thousand Blu-rays which I won't be upgrading all of them :) Found your channel about 4 months ago and enjoy and agree with most of your opinions, yes I subscribed and watch regularly. Agree with this video by the way. I still go to Best Buy (I think they are on the way out but that is just me) to try to find some older gems among the newer releases but it keeps getting harder and Amazon is the way to go. I live in Los Angeles and one would think collecting would be easier but it is still a treasure hunt like every else.
I love seeing you grow the brand, and this 1st ep. is loaded w/ great content! So many great points! Also, with physical, you actually "own" the title whereas a digital copy can be pulled at any point (not likely, but still), plus you get a copy with most discs anyways. I'll be subscribing to the podcast as well. Great stuff!
You should reach out to "Movie Collector". He's an elderly British gent with a great UA-cam channel. Not only does he do 4K reviews, but he compares them to his own film prints, which might be 35mm, 16mm, or 8mm. He has a lot of great insight and deserves more subs.
You make some great points. I also collect physical media for the same reasons. As for Star Wars, it’s infuriating that I can’t own the original version that I saw as a kid in the theaters. And I can understand why fans have created the 4k77 project so that people can see the despecialized version of Star Wars. Cinema is part of our history. Trying to erase the past, the good and the bad, is never a good idea.
I was an early adopter of DVDs when they first came out (1997 ish), and I still have some of the first ones I purchased in my collection, though I have replaced many of them with Blu-Ray. I went through a period of five or six years where I pretty much stopped buying physical media movies and instead purchased movies on Vudu. In the last year or so, I've stopped buying streaming movies, though I kept my Amazon Prime subscription, and have gone back to buying Blu-Ray disks, even ones that I had already purchased on Vudu. I just don't trust streaming. There is nothing like physically owning the media. Heck, even though I've had a Kindle for over a decade, the last three books I bought were paper hardbacks.
See the thing is as physical media collectors we're okay with streaming but people who stream are absolutely baffled as to why we collect physical media.
Another reason for me personally is that as a person that went through a category 5 hurricane that knocked out any type of communication (internet) for 6 months, I will always rely on physical media to entertain me when streaming services aren't available.
Congrats on your first episode. I like the new format very much! Regarding censorship...own your childhood movie and TV experiences. Did seeing something inappropriate when you were a kid prevent you from growing up to be a good person? I grew up in the 70s, still LOVE all the wildly politically incorrect content, and grew up to be a responsible and relatively moral family man. In fact, I believe all the wildly politically CORRECT and woke content pushed on us today is just as inappropriate as a lot of 70s stuff. Content creators should have the freedom to create whatever they choose, regardless of who might be "offended". Let the market decide its fate. If one chooses to do so, use a White, all male, straight cast of characters. By the same token, choose a Black, all female lesbian cast of characters. I'm Mexican. If someone chooses to produce a film which blatantly makes fun (in a negative light) of stereotypical Mexican traits, I could care less. I simply won't support it with my dollars. Again, let the market decide.
This is cool I am really happy that things are getting better for you I love physical media I like not worrying who is losing licensing or gaining I know that it is in my possession.
Listened to this on spotify Jeff and absolutely loved it. Really enjoyed what was discussed and very much looking forward to hearing what comes next. As someone who is working towards a career in film restoration I'm very much looking forward to listening to some experts.
One thing that brings me to buy physical media of movies that I want is that it supports the movie. Matt Damon and Chris Stuckmann have brought up how with steaming, studios make less money so they’re not willing to make certain types of movies anymore. When VHS and DVD (blu ray, 4K, etc) was in its prime, that helped studios recover any money lost at the box office. Even with rentals. It was the second opening for the movie. Box office wasn’t the number one way to get all proceeds back and in some ways it still isn’t but studios are more reliant on the theatrical run. Streaming licenses did help before studios branched off to make their own services (except Sony and they’ve made more just licensing their content). There are other reasons like quality, not worrying about it leaving a streaming service, needing to subscribe just to watch one thing, etc. I am not anti-streaming as some of my favorite movies I watched for the first time were viewed on streaming. It’s more about how I weigh the pros and cons. I sometimes use streaming to see if I want to own the blu ray. It’s as you said about balancing.
Last year I switched 100% to physical media. My focus is 4k releases only. Especially old movies. They looks so much better now than on original release thanks to HDR, 4K scans and restorations.
Movies and shows are better on physical media, because I don’t have to worry about censorship and the streaming services like Netflix pulling them off! Its also simple to just play physical media of videos, since you own it, and isn’t going to be edited by the internet.
Biggest reason for me is better picture quality than streaming And Everything else you mentioned. They have changed so many dialogue in movies already. But my discs are what was shown in the theaters
There's nothing worse than a movie being changed after you've already seen it. Star Wars is the prime example. You still can't buy Star Wars in 4K... just some other movie with the same name.
Erasure of history exists in physical media as well. From Star Wars, to Shawshank Redemption, to Terminator 2, they've updated their cuts, effects, audio dubbing, and more, all without telling people what they did.
Your ‘ballad to physical media’ (if I may put it like that) is spot on how I see it also, right down to the censorship. As I am getting to know you channel better and better, the more I simply appreciate the way you tell about it without getting too technical, so thank you for that! Everything ‘wrong’ is getting more and more censored and not always for the best as you mentioned. I have a set up including an OLED tv(with DV and HDR10+), receiver with Atmos(and the needed speakers) and 2-players(1 for DV and 1 for HDR10+) and I absolutely LOVE the quality when I put ‘Dune’ to ‘Blues Brothers’ to ‘Saving Private Ryan’ to ‘No Time to Die’ in f.e. (still saving for ‘The Godfather 4K’) One other reason(like strolling through the films) I still buy 4K is the fact I personally don’t like the well-known black bars on some streaming movies which cannot be adjusted, I know it’s probably the way it was intended, but I want to get the most out of the tv/picture even though the image can get a little bit stretched on the tv like with physical movies is possible.
Great reflections. Just laying in bed here with Covid listening to your reviews. I think physical media has several benefits. 1. Image quality. I even hope they increase the bitrate in the future because this would improve the quality a lot. I have done tests with my own videos with high bitrate and they look far better. 2. Browsing the library especially if you have the house to support it. 3. I think streaming is confusing. I dont know where most movies can be found. 4. The joy of buying them. It is always fun when a new movie comes out.
Totally agree with all your points. I don't have a lot of physical media, but what I do have are my favorites. I do enjoy the theater experience, though. People in my area understand and respect theater etiquette, and the theaters kept pretty clean. Yes, if you have all the equipment already, buying the physical media is cheaper and a better experience. I don't have a home theater currently, but I do plan on one eventually.
Hi bud. I'm David. Love your insight, although I'm much older and not that concerned about the hardware. Love me my physical media! It's my happy place! I'm happy to now own titles on blu ray that I've been waiting on forever it seems. Titles like "Song of the South", the "revisited" version of "Star Wars" and "Empire", "Just One of the Guys", "Reckless", "Soldier", "True Lies"...the list goes on. There's SO may titles I'm still hoping for. I've invested in 4K as well. My collection is not as extensive tho
If I see a movie in a theater which I loved, I will watch it again as soon as it's on streaming and then I'll buy the physical release as well. I think a lot of collectors are the kind of people who will rewatch a movie over and over and enjoy it every time. Most people only streaming will want to watch something new each time. So, for them, streaming makes more sense. I have some movies in 4K which I've previously owned on VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray because I love them so much!
New subscriber here, love the channel. I collected DVDs and Blu Rays for years but sold my collection a few years ago. I recently decided to get into 4k Blu Rays so I could watch GOT at its best and so away I go. I have the PS5 for watching disc-based movies plus a TCL 5 series 4k TV with a Samsung sound bar and Sony Pulse headphones. So far, so good, Black Hawk Down 4k Blu Ray is amazing. Also have GOT, Quiet Place, Uncharted, Zero Dark Thirty, Saving Private Ryan, The Martian and Braveheart/Gladiator. It’s nice to be watching and collecting physical media again. Thank you for your work on behalf of the physical media community!
Love physical media because unlike streaming, it’s real, you can hold it in your hands and look at it. You own it regardless of whatever is going on with licensing or with the studios themselves being bought up. Streaming has its limitations because of its dependence on isp which can sometimes (in my experience) be unpredictable (watching a movie and suddenly it starts buffering or it quits all together is a bummer). Been collecting for about 30 years now, started with VHS. I don’t think I’ll ever stop tbh.
Great topic to start off your podcast! Everything you mentioned here I agree. The reason why I still collect physical media for the past 20 years. Keep it up! 👍🏻
I use a mix of both physical and digital media. With digital media, the convenience factor is a huge advantage. No need to dig through your shelf or worry about scuffed copies. Just pick and play. But you don't own any of the content, and can be changed and/or removed at an instant. With physical media, there are risks in terms of rotting or scuffs. But, you spend more up front, but in theory you can save in the long run. No need to worry about recurring payments. Plus, you don't have to worry about server or internet issues.
11:28 I’m one of those people. I can finally afford more stuff, whereas before I could only afford one main hobby so I stuck to physical games. In the past three years, I’ve been purchasing my favorite movies in physical media because I refuse succumbing to 8 streaming services. Remember: a future of streaming = watching what you can watch / what companies let you watch. A future of purchasable physical media = watching what you want to watch, how you want, where you want.
Good video. I always collect and when I got my first DVD player in 2000, after not being able to afford a laserdisc player, I felt like I was in the club. I get tired of certain people getting snobby over us people who love physical media. Bill Hunt from Digital Bits gave it a 10 year life time and a lot can happen in 10 years and, just like vinyl came back and CDs are making a comeback, even though they never went away, I think more people will start buying again.
Fantastic first episode! I agree with your opinions on basically everything. Coming across as enthusiastic and genuine is the key to creating a successful podcast in my eyes, and I feel you really nail those things.
100% agree about the need to preserve history, and learn from it, and how only physical media offers this ability. The increasing changes to content on streaming services, is outrageous. I think streaming media now presents an existential threat to cinema history. What's more, changing the content only further encourages torrenting. In other words - ripping and storing the content when it's first released is now the companion culture to physical media, for content not available on physical media.
You make some great points regarding physical media and censorship. I agree with you 100% In a free country we should be able to choose what we want to watch, not have PC officers comb through what THEY think we should watch. If it's racist content, we as free American adults can see that for ourselves. Then vote with our wallets and get that garbage out.
Awesome first podcast Jeff! It was like you read the minds of every collector out there in just 30 minutes. Keep up the great work! Already liked and subscribed on UA-cam and Apple Podcasts!
Barring global catastrophe or absolute economic depression, there will be a film renaissance. After watching Death On The Nile and Nope (which were both shot in 65mm), I became sure of it. Nope's soundscape was/is an in-theater treat. It would be wonderful if second run theaters made a comeback.
I've started getting more into collecting 4k and blu-rays recently but I still think streaming is essential for discovering movies and series. I'm not going to blind buy movies. I need to see the movie or show before I decide if I need to own it.
Two years ago I started again to buy physical media. The reason? I wanted to watch a movie from my childhood, it wasn't available on any streaming site available to me. So I went onto illegal streams to try and watch it but the only streams I could find were not in English. So I went and bought the dvd off Amazon the next day. The realization that this could happen again when the nostalgia save hits me, and it will, so it made start buying lots of dvds. I had around 100 at the time and now I'm sitting at around 800, and still growing. I have an excel spreadsheet of all the movies I still have to get 🙈🤣 I love browsing through, picking the movies off the shelf to watch, and not have to worry whether they were available to stream or not
I'm so glad to hear that there's physical disc archivers like Bull Moose that will save these copies 😃like with vinyl records. Quentin Tarantino was a movie store fanatic, and wrote his movies based on his knowledge and conversations there. Graywhale should also have them. I hope DVDs never die!
I totally agree with everything you said, physical movies is the way to go. For example John Q (a Denzel Washington movie) it’s not available on any Streaming services here in the UK, so I ended up finding a blu-ray copy on ebay. I have been collecting movies since early 2000’s but stopped when 4K came around, now I’m thinking of starting again, buying 4 movie a month will cost less then paying over £80 on different subscriptions services each month.
I am a Dutch 4k collector. I started with dvd's had around 200 movies. Selled them all except for some favorites or movies who are not on blu ray. Like the Abyss. I have disney plus, hbo max and Netflix....still i rather own movies because of all those different streaming services you have to apply for. One thing i don't like in my country is that Sony stopped 4k and blu ray discs, disney did the same here, 4k is possible buth without dutch subtitles on the 4k discs the blu ray included does have dutch subtitles.....big dissapointment. We, the netherlands are the ginny pigs for disney, it started with us. Now i also have to import the sony movies and hope their is dutch subtitles on it. My wife doesn't speak english....
Great podcast, I agree with you on a lot of points. I don't understand why there can't be two versions of an offensive to some people TV show or film, one unedited and the other edited. Then people can choose which version they want to watch. If it is stated that a TV show or film could be offensive to some people beforehand, then the people who would be offended can't complain because if they choose to watch it it's their own fault, they already knew, and if they choose not to watch it, well, how can you complain since no one is going to force you to watch it. If other people want to watch it that's their right and their choice, no one has the right to take that away from them. Do you think you'll ever get into Laserdisc or VHS tapes? I will usually pick DVD and Blu Ray over VHS, but I will still sometimes watch VHS tapes because some TV shows and films only came out on VHS, and it's nostalgic. I find Laserdisc appealing, but I don't think I'll ever get into it because I've got too much stuff as it is, and I don't like the idea of having to turn the disc over half way through the film.
Great video and congratulations on the podcast! Disney is the worst offender when it comes to their own censorship in my opinion. An example I can think of is "Make Mine Music", an entire segment called the Martins and the Coys has been completely removed from all home releases. It's essentially a Disney version of the Hatfields and McCoys brawl. It's not that great of a cartoon, it's not that great of a film, but as a result, they will probably never release it on Disney+, I had to watch it on my DVD. They've also edited "Melody Time" and "Salads Amigos" by cutting out some smoking scenes, with Goofy and Pecos Bill, yet they still have Jose Carioca smoking a cigar. Physical Media is for me the best way of preserving film history. Erasing history is just as and as saying it never happened. Use it as a learning tool on what not to do.
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I spent three years without any internet access whatsoever (2017-2020), and the experience left me with a newfound appreciation for physical media.
Exactly! Sometimes im in the middle of a show/movie and my internet cuts out. Nothing beats throwing a dvd in and not having to worry about the internet connection messing up the experience
@@Bdot888 yup, you got that right, and that is why I am collecting now...the streaming is so unreliable and disappointing as it is only a matter of time when it's going to cut out. Sometimes when watching one movie, it will cut out 15x. Earlier this year, my internet service went up over 40 percent, I had to buy a new device for the SIM card, and the quality of streaming went south...go figure
@@splash4891 Exactly! And not just the internet services, but also the streaming services are going down in quality. Nothing beats uncompressed 4k discs that dont cut out on you
@@Bdot888 yes the streaming is the worst..I can't stand it anymore (it's as bad as having commercials interruptions every 4 min., and in many ways, I just want to be off the grid and not have to rely on the behemoths for my utilities). I have just started reading up on CDs, DVDs, 4K, blluray etc,. but did not know about the uncompressed 4k, I will have to check that out.
@@splash4891 well technically its still compressed but you get way more bandwidth than a 4k stream. So the quality of the 4k disc will always be better
Physical media is still the absolute superior way to view films . Streaming can't touch bluray or 4k UHD . I am reminded of that every time I steam for several hours then switch over to disc .
True. Plus, our young kids who grow up in this digital era simply LOVE opening the case, taking out the DVD and carefully putting it into the XBox. Sometimes they have fights over whose turn it is. :-)
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No its not because we want to justify hoarding movies. Thats just dumb.
Most people collect movies. They don't hoard.
Would you call baseball card collectors hoarders?
People don't invest in video and audio setups to wait for the streaming to catch up.
Maybe it will but will the cost of streaming go up? What happens when the network has issues?
What happens when the movie you want to see is removed from the provider's library because its not as
popular or they lose the rights? Netflix isn't streaming movies for your benefit but for their profit.
Why do you assume media would go to 8k?
Most people may not even go to 8k.
When you go from HD to blu-ray and then to 4k there is a noticeable difference.
4k to 8k improvement in picture may not be as noticeable as much.
I think you would need a bigger tv and i doubt if most people would want or be able to fit a 120" tv in their living room. It might make sense for theaters.
@@user-sb1vz9pv5y I thought Michael Jackson died years ago. Is this a ghost?
Good video. As a person who has been collecting for over 20 years, I can really appreciate having a "library " of films without worrying if it's going to be censored or removed. I believe in preserving these films buy purchasing them. Streaming is great for "convenience " but not so great for always finding what you are looking for (Especially older films).
@Steven Lee I know we can't take these films with us when we die, but as long as I am alive I will continue to watch them as they were originally intended.
No streaming service offers the same breadth of choices as physical media. Sure you can sign up for 17 different steaming services just to get all the content. If it wasn't so limited and controlled then I would gladly sign up for a service. But since legal rights and other issues constantly shift where the content is, it's really not worth it the hassle to use streaming services. So much easier to just pick up the movie/documentary/anime you like and watch.
I can relate to your comment Daniel. Collecting anything has a certain fun and satisfying element to it. I like reading the included books or back of the case. Even the way something is packaged can be fun. Then there is all the bonus features. Plus, the streamed high definition isn't always as good as the physical copy. Like you said about censorship, I do worry about things being not available anymore or them being censored. I have even saw reviews of dvd's and blu-rays where they mentioned the color in an animated movie was not being true to the original or a past release. I do have streaming services and they are Great and a good way to check something out before I buy it. There is a preserving aspect to it as well. There are many shows and movies, mostly older ones, that would be lost forever if they weren't found in a private collection. Plus you can be in a group that collect horror, sci-fi or silent films or shows just to name a few.
@Steven Lee One majordrawback from streaming is censorship too.
@Steven Lee But why pay money every month for movies you don't even own on streaming sites when you can buy with one payment a blu-ray or a 4K and it yours forever.
I think it's just human nature. People like surrounding themselves with things they love. People, pictures of loved ones, paintings, books, films, music etc. It's about creating an environment that comforts you and makes you happy. Also "collecting" things gives you something to do when you have nothing to do. Hobbies reduces stress.
Yes I definitely Agree with you
"Why I still..........." = I live for music, High-End stereos and I ONLY listen to physical media. CD & SACD. I NEVER stream or even listen to radio.
Physical media Rules!! Long Live Mr. Physical!!
There is no greater joy than listening 2 my Zeppelin bootlegs create a nuclear disturbance through my Martin Logans.....
I love collecting DVDs. I get to choose what I watch and when without thinking it could be removed. I enjoy having a physical collection that I can go back to and look at and simply appreciate it.
Started collecting physical media in the 1976 with my first album that I bought. Didn't really buy many VHS because of owning cassette tapes that they will just wore out. I own around 1000 CDs, 100s of albums and over 1000 DVDs, blu ray and now 4k. This channel has gotten me excited about 4k so I bought an LG oled, 4k player and now looking at a new receiver. When I started buying blu rays like most individuals started with my favorites. That didn't last long. Physical media to me is a library, a reference of history to be able share it with others.
That was a FANTASTIC YEAR!! 1976. That's when I arrived on planet Earth 🌏. Lol 😉
@@raymondluke92 yes it was, especially in the world.
@@mikefisher2673. Exactly. That's because I was born. I'm a GOD!! lol 🤣
@@raymondluke92 The god Thunder, the Ayatollah of Rockarolla.
@@mikefisher2673. Wasn't that a song by Soulfly?? I swear it was. I think 🤔.
I just got my first 4k TV (Sony OLED) and 4k disc player. So far, I've been able to tell a difference between 4k discs and streaming 4k. I was skeptical but there really is a difference in the picture quality. I also worry about buying digital copies of movies as there isn't a guarantee the digital copies will be available for my lifetime.
Also, they make you pay 'rent' to access the movies that you purchased. It works out well for them, which means it costs you more money.
That’s an interesting point. I have “bought” digital movies off Amazon, but if I were to cancel Amazon Prime, would my access to those movies I purchased go away?
@@mattmardigan You will still have access to your movies. My concern is what if Amazon or whatever company goes away? Sounds impossible now, but what happens to your digital purchases if the unforeseeable happens?
Sweet I think the Sony 4k Tv is top of the line
With Digital movies, what you buy is an access to view the movie. That access can be jeopardized if that platform shuts down.
I still collect physical media because I love actually owning the movie that you can watch anytime without having to be online. With streaming services you have to always be online, if it goes off, you can’t watch anything, also shows go off and on streaming services all the time so your never promised to have a movie you like always on there.
Yeah, you have to pay to even access the thing that you thought you owned. You can also sell/trade discs.
@Steven Lee Agreed.
I have my favorites, but now it's expanded to buying older movies or tv shows that may or not be on streaming.
you are spot on...but for those who don't see this.. its only a matter of time where everything will be rental/membership based "you will own nothing and be happy"
Its more engaging as well. When you play a vinyl album you are more likely to pay attention to the music as you have to get up and turn the album over. Same with physical media as you have to put the movie in and take it out. So usually you are prepared to watch the movie and enjoy it. You are not just surfing through movies till you get tired or bored with it.
People invest in their audio and video equipment to get the best experience with their content.
Not to have buffering issues, network issues, trying to find digital content that was removed.
Streaming is fine for when i just wanna watch a something on the road or waste some time. But when i want to enjoy a movie at home i want the best quality for my experience.
@@user-sb1vz9pv5y this is really well said what you wrote here (and wise) we make an investment w/our time and the money spent on the purchase of a movie, so we are more committed to our actions...one thing I am concerned about however, is when the movie player acts up, I suppose having two is the way to go (one for backup)
With the bloat of streaming we have, for the same price you could start building a killer collection and OWN it!
Not everyone carries all the subscriptions. It takes a financially irresponsible person to do that. Most people I know only carry either Netflix, Hbo, or Disney+ and then just rotate between them every month or two.
@@b4rs629 Having multiple streaming services does not mean someone is “irresponsible”. 🙄
25+ years later, I'm still holding on to my Laser Disc collection. They're excellent for really enhancing the home theater ambience.
I loved showing my son the original SW trilogy on LD.
@@Deepthoughtsabound In 1997 I purchased the Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition Laser Disc Box Set ($120 USD). I watched it just twice over the years and stillI keep it on display. I saw A New Hope when it was first released to movie theaters in 1977. I was 9 years old. I even had the bed sheets & pillow cases. C-3PO was my favorite droid.
@@ericlozen9631 If you still have a CRT television, that box set has outstanding picture, and if you have an AC3 decoder the surround sound is phenomenal! The DTS discs are less common but easier to decode their house rattling surround, with terrific picture.
@@kubrickenigma7977 The last time I watched them was in 1999 or 2000. I had a 36" Toshiba CRT TV. It was a monstrous beast and weighed over 200 lbs. I quit using those TV formats in 2013. That's when I purchased my first flat screen. When I watched LD's back then I was using an Onkyo Dolby Digital 5.1 A/V receiver. I was using Klipsch bookshelf speakers for my front mains and rear surrounds. I also had a dedicated 12" 150 watt powered subwoofer. It was a fairly modest system. More importantly though was that it sounded very good during Dolby Digital 5.1 playback. Dolby Pro Logic even sounded good, relatively speaking. Today I have a 4K 7.1.4 home theater system. I'm using a 75" flat screen; which is nearly 1/3 the weight (without the stand) of my old 36" CRT. I have the Skywalker Saga 4K Box Set. Unless someone is a serious 4K Blu-ray collector like myself, I don't reccomend buying this because of the price. You can save a lot of money by purchasing each movie individually.
I am also a collector. Have arround 3000 movies ( DVD, blu-ray and 4K ) . It started with Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Chuck Norris, John Wayne, Clint Eastwood and even now a day martial arts movies and western movies are the first choice but Star Wars and movies with good action plus story, i collect. I love youre channel and keep sending video's. Greetings from the Netherlands.
I remember the first time i was surprised by an edited movie while streaming. At that moment I knew I had to get my favorites on physical. Thank you for this video!
Hi Jeff. Congratulations on your new podcast. I love your channel. Long live physical media!!
I collect physical and stream. Both have their pro’s and con’s. I think my obsession with owning physical (dvd, vinyl records, books, etc) got elevated in a time in my life when I was broke. It was a nice security blanket that if I ever were in a serious pinch, I knew I could sell off some stuff for a few hundred to possibly a thousand bucks. You can’t really re-sell a digital copy of media to anyone (not yet at least). It’s also a combination of nostalgia of collecting things and the in your hand feel of physical that is hard for many people to understand. Was it Stan Lee that said something like boobs are nice on the computer screen but their better in your hand in reference to digital comics. Now there’s still the nostalgia, the physical factor, etc. but also supporting things I like. I like horror. If horror sells well, they make a lot more of it.
There's a huge corporate push to make you pay 'rent' on things that you purchase. Everything from streaming service, to paying a car manufacturer an additional monthly fee so that the key remote will function. It's the same scam as selling printers for $50, and the refill ink for $100. They're all trying to convert EVERYTHING into this 'rent' payment system, just to use things that you thought you owned.
This is enough reason for me to stick to buying physical media... and frankly avoid any corporate scam products that require 'rent'.
the Stan Lee quote usually goes "Comics are like boobs... they look good on a computer, but I'd rather hold one in my hand." i can’t find anywhere reputable that actually cites when/where he said it but it’s been attributed to him on the internet for several years
I am still sad that I sold my vinyl that I inherited from my parents. I could never afford to replace mono Stones, Jimi and Zep etc... I've started buying movies and books lately. I got in on hd-dvd, and lost the battle, so it made me gunshy to buy any of it. I have found some awesome, collectible sets lately for $0.50. It really got me rolling again.
@@spartida3850 I remember seeing a clip somewhere on youtube of him saying that.
Aah! This is exactly what I wanted to see you do, awesome first podcast. I'd love to eventually see a Q&A section where we can ask you questions.
I’ll do a Q&A. It wouldn’t be live but I will do one for sure!
@@JeffRauseo Frankly, live Q&As suck. It takes 3 hours for people to figure out how to unmute their microphone. Over and over and over again.
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 haha so true!
Great start. Very informative, measured and interesting. Jeff, you're a great resource for all media, not just physical. You have an engaging personality and deliver relevant information in a very easy to watch and enjoyable method. I appreciate your passion and commitment to physical media. I've worked in film and video professionally for 32 years now and can tell you when you go to film festivals, you encounter people that are passionate and love cinema. It's a cool group to be around and I think you capture that on your main channel. Thank you for taking on this new opportunity. I have thousands of movies on VHS(very few), Laser Disk, DVD, BluRay and 4K and always enjoy someone that taps into that movie magic that you can play for your friends. Be well.
I love having a collection to show off, maintain, build and display and of course the quality can't be beat.
Man, I just finished watching this 1st ep, and I gotta say that u hit it out of the ballpark. I totally agree with you 1 thousand million percent. I love your content and am a avid supporter of your channel. U got a fan 4 life Jeff. I will be watching .
I’m not too worried about physical media in the long run. I’m more worried about the players being obsolete in the future. Btw awesome content keep up the great work!
It's good that videogames are also sold in the blu-ray format. So with that many playstation 5 sold, there are many players around.
I have been collecting for 5 years and love it. Great channel
Have the same problems at my theaters. I try to just go on slow days, avoid peak times, and more often then not you get a couple or a group come in 15 minutes late, sit right behind you and whisper the whole movie, or kids in front of you on their phones, snap chatting or w/e they do these days during the whole movie. It's really sad.
Llevo 15 años coleccionando películas, simplemente es la mejor forma de disfrutar el cine en casa por la calidad y colección, amo el cine y me encanta tu canal, saludos desde Chile!
You hit all the physical media points and especially seeing movies uncut so for me to see a good copy of the unrated perfect blue I had to get the DVD and it was worth it!
In the UK, uncut DVDs were a revelation for me.
Jeff, I recently upgraded my room to 4K and had The Matrix be my debut 4K movie to watch. SHEESH the quality is insanely good. Now more than ever I am for physical media and I really appreciate the content you produce. I’m looking forward to future episodes of your podcast!
Harry Potter 4k collection was my indoctrination into 4k. The Spells and everything just comes to life especially in the later films.
I made the jump from dvd to 4k and it was like watching the films for the first time as kid. It's not very often you get to relive something as if it was for the first time.
Holy crap, I didn't expect to watch this whole thing. Didn't even know physical media like DVDs/BluRays had a "community" or enthusiasts
It was super interesting to hear your thoughts on what future trends may look like and gaining an understanding of the current landscape of media
We are out here! 101k strong and counting! Happy to have you if you’re interested!
Congrats, man! It’ll be nice to be able to listen to some movie talk without having to keep my phone open, but I’m still going to try and actually watch when I can. Just to add my 2 cents, I swore off collecting physical media for a bit- I have access to most streaming services at this point and didn’t really see the point, but the quality just doesn’t compare. Even when steaming something in 4K, the discs just look better. And having a shelf full of movies and grabbing one to watch is indeed a very nostalgic and pleasing experience.
I recently stopped streaming so I can start building a 4k collection. After watching my Harry Potter collection on 4k... I'm now a fan again of Physical Media. I made the jump from dvd - 4k. I never owned blu-rays movies so this is my first time having to rebuy on a new format.
This is awesome! I am glad that I found your channel. I am also a collector. My collection is not huge like yours, but I have 500+ titles. It blew my mind to hear you mention Bullmoose! I shop at the one in Salem, NH. I'm looking forward to watching all of your videos. Thanks for what you are doing!
I bought my first "Hi-Fi VHS" player when I was in high school and loved watching movies and still remember watching Jurassic Park for the first time on there. Moved on to a home theater in a box to my current 7.1.2 system. Can't say I have thousands but probably hundreds and love watching movies. Takes me to another place.
Dude I'm really digging this new endeavor and format. Keep at it!
We have a massive used media store here in town and last night, I overheard a woman returning some movies because "They were on HBO Max". I had to grit my teeth as I continued to look through the racks...
I use streaming as a reference/research for future bluray purchases. For convenience it can't be beat. For quality and lifetime access I choose physical media. The packaging, the cover art, the inserts and booklets are tangible incentives that streaming doesn't offer.
You got me collecting got 247 Blu rays 8-4ks and over 200 DVDs so happy yes I started late on in life. but love the fact once I buy a movie I have it for life 👍
I love your UA-cam channel and this was a great first podcast. Congratulations on starting a new podcast! I still collect physical media because I can watch it anytime even if internet is down.
You are the biggest channel of all physical media channels I watch on UA-cam probably this will take you to the next level Congratulations on the podcast
Thank you for the great video, I've only started to collect for the past 3 months and I'm loving it. Physical media from where I come from is quite small compared to other countries around the world which is sad. But I'm always trying to find new movies to add before there's nothing better then opening a fresh Blu-ray and experiencing that specific movie. Also you just gained another subscriber.
Loving the longer content bro, thanks for what you do, you’re my go to for pushing me over the edge or making me hold off on buying a film on disc, thanks again
Congratulations on your first podcast. I agree with everything you said. I have been collecting fir many years. I now have over 8500 disc's. Looking forward to see what you have in the future. One other major issue I have is that there are many movies and series that will never make it to streaming. I also love the idea to share with my friends and family who want to see something they remember when they were young. Also I find more movies I want from other countries to watch on physical media then I ever could find on any platform.
This was great!!! I echo the same sentiment. I was thinking this morning that I really miss the old days when I went to Tower Records and came out with a lot of VHS and then DVD. I really hope I can go into a store again and just browse again
I collect Blu Rays and Vinyl becuse its fun and when i love something i feel like i gotta own it
Great to see your new podcast Jeff! Hope you go from strength to strength and continue to represent our community of physical media fans!
So much of what you’ve said hits home with me.
I remember when electronic readers came out and people were saying physical books were going away. I knew they wouldn’t go away for me because of the physical experience of holding a book, the texture of the covers and pages, the smell of the paper, etc. It was hammered home when I read of the experience of a gentleman who “purchased” an electronic version of a favorite book. He read it, made notations, all of that. Then, for some reason, the book vanished. I (and he) don’t know why, maybe a loss of license, whatever. But the book was gone. Along with all of his notations.
The same thing hit me with streaming services. I’m sure we’ve all seen how movies “come to” the service and then, after a while, it’s no longer available. Again, maybe it’s a licensing issue. I don’t care. The point is, if I pay for a movie, I expect to be able to watch it when I want to, and not have to search on a different streaming service (and pay for it again!). Another issue I’ve noticed is that versions can be different between the streaming service and physical copies of the movie. One example: on one version (I can’t remember which) of “Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol 2”, when Quill is talking to Gamora about Sam Cooke on one version he says (incorrectly), “…Sam Cooke is one of the greatest BANDS…”. On the other media he says (correctly), “…Sam Cooke is one of the greatest SINGERS…”. Granted, it’s a slight change, but to one who is an avid collector of music, saying Cooke was a band completely took me out of the movie. The point is the movie has been altered. And then there's the thought, "What else has been changed?"
Also, talking about people in the theaters. When you said, “Why are you there?” genuinely hit home. A couple years ago, I went on vacation, flew First Class to St. Louis to watch a three-game set with Philadelphia. I went all out. Spent money for a hotel within walking distance of the stadium. Got seats in the high-dollar section (behind Home Plate). The works. Seated in front of me was a person who was on their phone constantly. Not just between pitches, between batters, between innings. Constantly. I mean, who spends $250.00 per ticket to sit there on their phone? Okay, it’s none of my business, I just thought, what a waste.
So, yeah. I’m building my physical media collection. Bit by bit. One at a time. Sometimes two. I just don’t know where I’ll be putting them in my apartment, though.
Great points... maybe you would consider putting your movies in a CD storage binder, to save space? Or get some furniture with storage or hidden storage.
Loved your take on physical media. The main reason I talked about in my video was censorship. I have made several videos about that exact same thing since as well. Bravo to you for speaking your mind about it.
Hey Jeff, I listened to the podcast and it's a great start. Thanks for your insight and passion for physical media. You've re-ignited my interest in physical media.
Great, timely topic, Jeff!! I have been collecting for over 30 years now, starting with VHS, then slowly upgrading favorite films to DVD over the last 15 -- 20 years, mainly because I kept finding so many used copies of DVDs and Blu Rays in thrift stores, yard sales, and flea markets, etc. for $1 - $2. Since 2010, I have been acquiring more blu rays, and now a few 4K discs as well, but it was the discovery of boutique labels (Arrow, Indicator, etc. ) and limited editions that really caused my collection to explode in the last 5 years, now reaching over 10,000. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID, JEFF, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE IMPORTANCE OF OWNING PHYSICAL MEDIA. WELL DONE, MY FRIEND!!
I enjoyed the podcast and format you put together. I have a LOT of blurays, 4k, dvds and even still some HD-DVDs so I am with you on the physical ownership of media!
I’ve been going back and forth on letting go of my video game collection but this video really made me think twice and I’m most definitely going to hold on to them. Also agree with your thoughts entirely on the at-home experience vs movie theaters.
Congratulations on the podcast!
You should look into getting John from the Movie Collector UA-cam channel as a guest. He has a great knowledge of film and how it can be best presented at home.
His film knowledge is extensive!
These are the only two movie channels I subscribe to. He certainly knows a lot about film formats and technical matters.
Everything you said, is literally exactly why I still collect movies. My collection isn’t nearly as extensive as yours, but it definitely grows over time with dedication. Trust me, as long as there’s still people willing to pay, physical media will always be around!!
I've been collecting movies since '79 started with Beta and Worked my way to 4k. Got the itch so to say with my Grandfather being a writer for westerns, High Chaparral, Bonanza and Little House On the Prairie among others this gave me my introduction to Westerns John Wayne and Clint Eastwood my first recorded movie on VHS was The Good The Bad and The Ugly. Also my father worked for Technicolor so through that company we got to see Jaws, Raiders and more as company Christmas perks and such for the employees. The last factor to this collecting bug was that I saw The Exorcist when I was 8 in '75 and Halloween in November of '78 giving my a lifelong passion for Horror. My collecting was going at a leisurely pace until the late 80's when VHS became more prevalent and I could own original copies of films for around $20 before this most films were upwards of $80, I believe my father paid this price for Jaws, Star Wars and lost classic Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (which I lost on beta and never upgraded like the others). My collecting skyrocketed with my marriage since my wife is the great niece of Alfred Hitchcock and fueled my desire even more. While I don't mind streaming the myriad of services available can be overwhelming and rather expensive, so I prefer the physical copy over streaming. In total I have somewhere in the vicinity of 6000 films over many formats, I started 4K upgrades and collecting about a year ago with my favorite movies and have 100+ titles and several thousand Blu-rays which I won't be upgrading all of them :) Found your channel about 4 months ago and enjoy and agree with most of your opinions, yes I subscribed and watch regularly. Agree with this video by the way. I still go to Best Buy (I think they are on the way out but that is just me) to try to find some older gems among the newer releases but it keeps getting harder and Amazon is the way to go. I live in Los Angeles and one would think collecting would be easier but it is still a treasure hunt like every else.
Congrats on the podcast! I’m excited to listen to this
I love seeing you grow the brand, and this 1st ep. is loaded w/ great content! So many great points! Also, with physical, you actually "own" the title whereas a digital copy can be pulled at any point (not likely, but still), plus you get a copy with most discs anyways. I'll be subscribing to the podcast as well. Great stuff!
You should reach out to "Movie Collector". He's an elderly British gent with a great UA-cam channel. Not only does he do 4K reviews, but he compares them to his own film prints, which might be 35mm, 16mm, or 8mm. He has a lot of great insight and deserves more subs.
You make some great points. I also collect physical media for the same reasons. As for Star Wars, it’s infuriating that I can’t own the original version that I saw as a kid in the theaters. And I can understand why fans have created the 4k77 project so that people can see the despecialized version of Star Wars. Cinema is part of our history. Trying to erase the past, the good and the bad, is never a good idea.
I was an early adopter of DVDs when they first came out (1997 ish), and I still have some of the first ones I purchased in my collection, though I have replaced many of them with Blu-Ray. I went through a period of five or six years where I pretty much stopped buying physical media movies and instead purchased movies on Vudu. In the last year or so, I've stopped buying streaming movies, though I kept my Amazon Prime subscription, and have gone back to buying Blu-Ray disks, even ones that I had already purchased on Vudu. I just don't trust streaming. There is nothing like physically owning the media. Heck, even though I've had a Kindle for over a decade, the last three books I bought were paper hardbacks.
See the thing is as physical media collectors we're okay with streaming but people who stream are absolutely baffled as to why we collect physical media.
Yeah it's really annoying. Nothing wrong with doing both.
I still collect CD, DVD, Blu-Ray, physical PS1,2,3,4, and 5 games.
Love the pod! Congrats. I do prefer to continue listening / watching on UA-cam - but good luck with the audio version.
Another reason for me personally is that as a person that went through a category 5 hurricane that knocked out any type of communication (internet) for 6 months, I will always rely on physical media to entertain me when streaming services aren't available.
Congrats on your first episode. I like the new format very much! Regarding censorship...own your childhood movie and TV experiences. Did seeing something inappropriate when you were a kid prevent you from growing up to be a good person? I grew up in the 70s, still LOVE all the wildly politically incorrect content, and grew up to be a responsible and relatively moral family man. In fact, I believe all the wildly politically CORRECT and woke content pushed on us today is just as inappropriate as a lot of 70s stuff. Content creators should have the freedom to create whatever they choose, regardless of who might be "offended". Let the market decide its fate. If one chooses to do so, use a White, all male, straight cast of characters. By the same token, choose a Black, all female lesbian cast of characters. I'm Mexican. If someone chooses to produce a film which blatantly makes fun (in a negative light) of stereotypical Mexican traits, I could care less. I simply won't support it with my dollars. Again, let the market decide.
This is cool I am really happy that things are getting better for you I love physical media I like not worrying who is losing licensing or gaining I know that it is in my possession.
Listened to this on spotify Jeff and absolutely loved it. Really enjoyed what was discussed and very much looking forward to hearing what comes next. As someone who is working towards a career in film restoration I'm very much looking forward to listening to some experts.
One thing that brings me to buy physical media of movies that I want is that it supports the movie. Matt Damon and Chris Stuckmann have brought up how with steaming, studios make less money so they’re not willing to make certain types of movies anymore. When VHS and DVD (blu ray, 4K, etc) was in its prime, that helped studios recover any money lost at the box office. Even with rentals. It was the second opening for the movie. Box office wasn’t the number one way to get all proceeds back and in some ways it still isn’t but studios are more reliant on the theatrical run. Streaming licenses did help before studios branched off to make their own services (except Sony and they’ve made more just licensing their content). There are other reasons like quality, not worrying about it leaving a streaming service, needing to subscribe just to watch one thing, etc. I am not anti-streaming as some of my favorite movies I watched for the first time were viewed on streaming. It’s more about how I weigh the pros and cons. I sometimes use streaming to see if I want to own the blu ray.
It’s as you said about balancing.
Last year I switched 100% to physical media. My focus is 4k releases only. Especially old movies. They looks so much better now than on original release thanks to HDR, 4K scans and restorations.
Movies and shows are better on physical media, because I don’t have to worry about censorship and the streaming services like Netflix pulling them off! Its also simple to just play physical media of videos, since you own it, and isn’t going to be edited by the internet.
Biggest reason for me is better picture quality than streaming
And Everything else you mentioned. They have changed so many dialogue in movies already. But my discs are what was shown in the theaters
There's nothing worse than a movie being changed after you've already seen it. Star Wars is the prime example. You still can't buy Star Wars in 4K... just some other movie with the same name.
Erasure of history exists in physical media as well. From Star Wars, to Shawshank Redemption, to Terminator 2, they've updated their cuts, effects, audio dubbing, and more, all without telling people what they did.
Your ‘ballad to physical media’ (if I may put it like that) is spot on how I see it also, right down to the censorship.
As I am getting to know you channel better and better, the more I simply appreciate the way you tell about it without getting too technical, so thank you for that!
Everything ‘wrong’ is getting more and more censored and not always for the best as you mentioned.
I have a set up including an OLED tv(with DV and HDR10+), receiver with Atmos(and the needed speakers) and 2-players(1 for DV and 1 for HDR10+) and I absolutely LOVE the quality when I put ‘Dune’ to ‘Blues Brothers’ to ‘Saving Private Ryan’ to ‘No Time to Die’ in f.e. (still saving for ‘The Godfather 4K’)
One other reason(like strolling through the films) I still buy 4K is the fact I personally don’t like the well-known black bars on some streaming movies which cannot be adjusted, I know it’s probably the way it was intended, but I want to get the most out of the tv/picture even though the image can get a little bit stretched on the tv like with physical movies is possible.
Best part of physical media is the bonus features.
Great reflections. Just laying in bed here with Covid listening to your reviews. I think physical media has several benefits. 1. Image quality. I even hope they increase the bitrate in the future because this would improve the quality a lot. I have done tests with my own videos with high bitrate and they look far better. 2. Browsing the library especially if you have the house to support it. 3. I think streaming is confusing. I dont know where most movies can be found. 4. The joy of buying them. It is always fun when a new movie comes out.
Totally agree with all your points. I don't have a lot of physical media, but what I do have are my favorites. I do enjoy the theater experience, though. People in my area understand and respect theater etiquette, and the theaters kept pretty clean. Yes, if you have all the equipment already, buying the physical media is cheaper and a better experience. I don't have a home theater currently, but I do plan on one eventually.
Hi bud. I'm David. Love your insight, although I'm much older and not that concerned about the hardware. Love me my physical media! It's my happy place! I'm happy to now own titles on blu ray that I've been waiting on forever it seems. Titles like "Song of the South", the "revisited" version of "Star Wars" and "Empire", "Just One of the Guys", "Reckless", "Soldier", "True Lies"...the list goes on. There's SO may titles I'm still hoping for. I've invested in 4K as well. My collection is not as extensive tho
Awesome. I posted a similar video in the past and had lots of people agree with my reasons. I can’t wait to hear yours.
If I see a movie in a theater which I loved, I will watch it again as soon as it's on streaming and then I'll buy the physical release as well. I think a lot of collectors are the kind of people who will rewatch a movie over and over and enjoy it every time. Most people only streaming will want to watch something new each time. So, for them, streaming makes more sense. I have some movies in 4K which I've previously owned on VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray because I love them so much!
New subscriber here, love the channel. I collected DVDs and Blu Rays for years but sold my collection a few years ago. I recently decided to get into 4k Blu Rays so I could watch GOT at its best and so away I go. I have the PS5 for watching disc-based movies plus a TCL 5 series 4k TV with a Samsung sound bar and Sony Pulse headphones. So far, so good, Black Hawk Down 4k Blu Ray is amazing. Also have GOT, Quiet Place, Uncharted, Zero Dark Thirty, Saving Private Ryan, The Martian and Braveheart/Gladiator. It’s nice to be watching and collecting physical media again. Thank you for your work on behalf of the physical media community!
Thanks for joining the community here! I appreciate the support. Looks like you’re off to a good start
I truly like the idea of owning some forms of media. I respect the balance.
Love physical media because unlike streaming, it’s real, you can hold it in your hands and look at it. You own it regardless of whatever is going on with licensing or with the studios themselves being bought up. Streaming has its limitations because of its dependence on isp which can sometimes (in my experience) be unpredictable (watching a movie and suddenly it starts buffering or it quits all together is a bummer). Been collecting for about 30 years now, started with VHS. I don’t think I’ll ever stop tbh.
Great topic to start off your podcast! Everything you mentioned here I agree. The reason why I still collect physical media for the past 20 years. Keep it up! 👍🏻
I use a mix of both physical and digital media. With digital media, the convenience factor is a huge advantage. No need to dig through your shelf or worry about scuffed copies. Just pick and play. But you don't own any of the content, and can be changed and/or removed at an instant.
With physical media, there are risks in terms of rotting or scuffs. But, you spend more up front, but in theory you can save in the long run. No need to worry about recurring payments. Plus, you don't have to worry about server or internet issues.
11:28 I’m one of those people. I can finally afford more stuff, whereas before I could only afford one main hobby so I stuck to physical games. In the past three years, I’ve been purchasing my favorite movies in physical media because I refuse succumbing to 8 streaming services.
Remember: a future of streaming = watching what you can watch / what companies let you watch.
A future of purchasable physical media = watching what you want to watch, how you want, where you want.
Good video. I always collect and when I got my first DVD player in 2000, after not being able to afford a laserdisc player, I felt like I was in the club. I get tired of certain people getting snobby over us people who love physical media. Bill Hunt from Digital Bits gave it a 10 year life time and a lot can happen in 10 years and, just like vinyl came back and CDs are making a comeback, even though they never went away, I think more people will start buying again.
Fantastic first episode! I agree with your opinions on basically everything. Coming across as enthusiastic and genuine is the key to creating a successful podcast in my eyes, and I feel you really nail those things.
100% agree about the need to preserve history, and learn from it, and how only physical media offers this ability. The increasing changes to content on streaming services, is outrageous. I think streaming media now presents an existential threat to cinema history. What's more, changing the content only further encourages torrenting. In other words - ripping and storing the content when it's first released is now the companion culture to physical media, for content not available on physical media.
You make some great points regarding physical media and censorship. I agree with you 100% In a free country we should be able to choose what we want to watch, not have PC officers comb through what THEY think we should watch. If it's racist content, we as free American adults can see that for ourselves. Then vote with our wallets and get that garbage out.
Exactly right!!
Awesome first podcast Jeff! It was like you read the minds of every collector out there in just 30 minutes. Keep up the great work! Already liked and subscribed on UA-cam and Apple Podcasts!
Barring global catastrophe or absolute economic depression, there will be a film renaissance. After watching Death On The Nile and Nope (which were both shot in 65mm), I became sure of it. Nope's soundscape was/is an in-theater treat.
It would be wonderful if second run theaters made a comeback.
I've started getting more into collecting 4k and blu-rays recently but I still think streaming is essential for discovering movies and series. I'm not going to blind buy movies. I need to see the movie or show before I decide if I need to own it.
Two years ago I started again to buy physical media. The reason? I wanted to watch a movie from my childhood, it wasn't available on any streaming site available to me. So I went onto illegal streams to try and watch it but the only streams I could find were not in English. So I went and bought the dvd off Amazon the next day. The realization that this could happen again when the nostalgia save hits me, and it will, so it made start buying lots of dvds. I had around 100 at the time and now I'm sitting at around 800, and still growing. I have an excel spreadsheet of all the movies I still have to get 🙈🤣 I love browsing through, picking the movies off the shelf to watch, and not have to worry whether they were available to stream or not
I'm so glad to hear that there's physical disc archivers like Bull Moose that will save these copies 😃like with vinyl records. Quentin Tarantino was a movie store fanatic, and wrote his movies based on his knowledge and conversations there. Graywhale should also have them. I hope DVDs never die!
I totally agree with everything you said, physical movies is the way to go. For example John Q (a Denzel Washington movie) it’s not available on any Streaming services here in the UK, so I ended up finding a blu-ray copy on ebay. I have been collecting movies since early 2000’s but stopped when 4K came around, now I’m thinking of starting again, buying 4 movie a month will cost less then paying over £80 on different subscriptions services each month.
I am a Dutch 4k collector. I started with dvd's had around 200 movies. Selled them all except for some favorites or movies who are not on blu ray. Like the Abyss. I have disney plus, hbo max and Netflix....still i rather own movies because of all those different streaming services you have to apply for. One thing i don't like in my country is that Sony stopped 4k and blu ray discs, disney did the same here, 4k is possible buth without dutch subtitles on the 4k discs the blu ray included does have dutch subtitles.....big dissapointment. We, the netherlands are the ginny pigs for disney, it started with us. Now i also have to import the sony movies and hope their is dutch subtitles on it. My wife doesn't speak english....
Also question, have you heard anything about the movie True Lies coming to blu ray or 4k. I been looking for it for so long
The second one thing gets censored the door opens to everything. It’s never just the one thing that gets changed or removed.
Honestly I've never really been a podcast kinda guy but this one was good, you actually kept me interested and didn't get boring.
Edit: spelling lmao
Great podcast, I agree with you on a lot of points.
I don't understand why there can't be two versions of an offensive to some people TV show or film, one unedited and the other edited. Then people can choose which version they want to watch. If it is stated that a TV show or film could be offensive to some people beforehand, then the people who would be offended can't complain because if they choose to watch it it's their own fault, they already knew, and if they choose not to watch it, well, how can you complain since no one is going to force you to watch it. If other people want to watch it that's their right and their choice, no one has the right to take that away from them.
Do you think you'll ever get into Laserdisc or VHS tapes?
I will usually pick DVD and Blu Ray over VHS, but I will still sometimes watch VHS tapes because some TV shows and films only came out on VHS, and it's nostalgic.
I find Laserdisc appealing, but I don't think I'll ever get into it because I've got too much stuff as it is, and I don't like the idea of having to turn the disc over half way through the film.
I’ve loved your channel for awhile now, but this is really particularly cool. Gonna love following these podcasts Jeff. Thanks!
Great first episode Jeff!! I watched on my lunch hour, keep up the great work!!
Have you guys ever thought about moving from DVD to Hard drives? You could fit a lot of these physical disc in Hard drives and still own it.
Great video and congratulations on the podcast!
Disney is the worst offender when it comes to their own censorship in my opinion. An example I can think of is "Make Mine Music", an entire segment called the Martins and the Coys has been completely removed from all home releases. It's essentially a Disney version of the Hatfields and McCoys brawl. It's not that great of a cartoon, it's not that great of a film, but as a result, they will probably never release it on Disney+, I had to watch it on my DVD.
They've also edited "Melody Time" and "Salads Amigos" by cutting out some smoking scenes, with Goofy and Pecos Bill, yet they still have Jose Carioca smoking a cigar. Physical Media is for me the best way of preserving film history. Erasing history is just as and as saying it never happened. Use it as a learning tool on what not to do.