Fixing BIG Hydraulic Cylinders On A Massive Excavator
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Continuing with work on the 170B, I locate and install new seals, reassemble the cylinders, and put them back on the machine. A few seconds to say, and a week or so to accomplish!
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Pretty soon, "Hey guys I just bought this locomotive! I don't need it, but it's great!"
LoL 😂😂😂
Come on, don't pull your punches. Let's get really ambitious. Like maybe an Abrams tank. Perhaps the Navy has an aircraft carrier for the pond...
Well they do have the 1218 just sitting up in Roanoke not doing anything. 😂😂😂
Well I dont know . Maybe a track around the perimeter to haul firewood to the boiler . Think of the tractor hours he would save.
@@SteveandSusiesHomestead I'm sure he could shoe-horn it in to his system somehow!
That Hercules is still producing a paper catalog in 2024 is astounding! Kudos to Hercules.
McMaster still does.
@@FishFind3000McMaster sends me one every year even though I never order by calling them with what I want. I have a stack of them and just won’t let anyone near them at work.
It’s extremely common in the engineering world, these catalogues are more like reference manuals than anything.
Remember the Sears catalogs? Those were the days. They sold EVERYTHING. I like trees, but electronic catalogs suck! No way I am doing my daily business with a laptop on my lap top.
Their website is great, much easier than using the catalogue !
I don't know what anyone else thinks, but I love watching Jon work. His tenacity and patience are part of his can-do work ethic. Happy to go along for the ride Jon. Have a great week.
Agreed! And I swear he never gets upset. The closest I've ever seen him to cussing is throwing out a joke of some sort.
Send him to Wash DC and have him fix those seals!
110% agree with Ronwhite6719. His nice Demi nor is also to my liking.
I am a heavy equipment mechanic, and I approve of this repair. This just shows me how spoiled I am with a truck crane. To do that job with an excavator just shows your level of experience. There's a big difference between operators and mechanics.
So as a mechanic you also slamm the pins in without greasing them first?
@@ghostdevill bah, just gonna rust again...why bother? ;)
56:00 "and here we see a young excavator, assisting a full-grown excavator. The exact reason they remove and reattach parts of them is currently unknown to science"
I read that in Sir David Attenborough's voice.
(daughter waves hand vigorously) "I help Dad change Depends when they leak, too. It's just like that."
When dealing with these huge machines, you definitely need big machines to work on other bigger machines. Perhaps the tractor could have been used instead of the other excavator. Besides that, not sure how you would do it. Guessing the cylinders weigh 500 lbs.
I can't wait to see their mating rituals
Letting elastomer seals relax after being stretched during installation is essential. A couple of decades ago, an O-ring installed on a pump shaft in a nuclear reactor was cut during machine assembly because the technician was in too much of a hurry to wait for the O-ring to relax. When the plant was pressurized, the cut seal leaked. The four or five days needed to come down, disassemble, find and fix the problem, reassemble, and heat up again cost about $3 million.
OUCH!
ouch
Good it didn't Chernobyl!
@@LisaMedeiros-tr2lz Not even close. Just a little water leaking out from where it shouldn't have that was found during initial pressurization.
How long do they need?
this channel is by far the most helpful heavy equipment repair channel for people with no money like me
Kurtis would be proud of you man. He may not approve of the methods you used but you got it done with what you had available. Most people wouldn’t even attempt to do what you just did with a machine of that size.
If your having issues replacing the lines on the boom, you may want to look into brazing another easier to find fitting to those hard lines. That breather on your hydraulic tank is also supposed to have a moisture absorbing desiccant canister on it to keep water out of the hydraulic system. Parker and others make desiccant breathers and they're worth every penny to ensure you don't fill the hydraulic system with water.
Wow, thats a great idea. I would never have thought about even trying an upgrade.
Jon, most of the work you do single handedly at the 'farm shop' would require two people and a helper in an industrial shop or factory. Your work is mental and physical, thinking and then doing. I find myself 'talking to you' trying to help. Yeah, I know the video is days after but I can't help but want to reach in and hold or hand you a tool. I catch myself leaning in to help twist or push or pull. I and 36,511 other viewers in 5 hours say, Great job, Jon.
I agree totally.........
To make the seals shrink back to size quicker either spray it with liquid nitrogen, or you can use an upsidedown can of compressed air, or liquid gas, to freeze them and make them shrink. If you do use the can of compressed air, or liquid gas, use it outdoors and away from any flames, as the propellant in compressed air is usually buthane.
Pretty much the opposite of heating them up in the oil.
I use keyboard duster. Turn the can upside down and freeze away. I keep several cans in my shop at all times just for these occasions. Also have an electric hot plate for heating oil, bearing races, etc.
Am I the only one who caught the possible reference to Curtis and Cutting Edge Engineering in Australia? That guy is always ripping apart hydraulic cylinders and rebuilding them. It couldn't have been an accident 🙂 anyway John love your stuff. I have no clue how to do half the things you do, but it's a lot of fun watching you do them, particularly alone. Good luck! Enjoy your new equipment.
you’re right, he’s mentioned CEE before, even gotten a comment from them
No, but I did hear the reference to Kurtis. (That bloke Curtis is never around when you want him. He just keeps sponging off Kurtis' reputation anyway.)
@@morriewyatt6234 spelled it wrong, did I?
@@ericberger4511 It's Kurtis
No your not the only one
Dozer's pants are growing back in nicely
Thanks for the class in seals and glands. Never had a need to work on hydraulic cylinders, but glad to learn. Now I'll always look at the hydraulics on any machines I come across to see how much service they need.
Let them have their wining Jon, from my perspective, you are the smartest well-thought out rigger I see on this platform; learning from you every time, if not technical than logical, you are a keeper in my sublist, take care and thanks for the effort!
With the power of the internet and your handyman skills I think you could fix ANYTHING
A small zip tie helps putting seal on ,make a loop and cut off afterwards ,better than a screw driver or pick . great work
or put the zip tie backwards so you can reuse it
@@chaoz_2k185 nah you zip it into a loop and flip it inside out so its smooth side to seal and gives you a pull poiint.
heeeyyy you stole my trick! lmao.
That's Genius!
How have I never thought of this… Thanks 🙏
Every month gets bigger and better. Good luck getting this thing operational for under $30K! I am rootin' for ya (and watching every Friday).
Great instruction on using the seal manual.
I have no advice. No suggestions. You do what you do and share with us. I have enjoyed all of your videos never want to see you fail or have problems. What really makes my day is seeing you solve a problem that I can't see an answer for. That is so cool. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU TEACH US.
I work in hydraulics, and watching you pile up a cyl is so rewarding. Keep given er eh next time, throw that glan into the lathe and polish everything and the piston as well and wire wheel the cylinder threads and fully clea out the cylinder
Have you considered seeing if a bulk oil carrier, like maybe one of the heavy equipment service companies, would come out to fill it up cheaper than buying 20 buckets of oil from Tractor Supply?
I do contact an oil supplier and get a pretty darn good deal on oil for this one.
The bulk delivery of HO would be a great idea! 🎉
28:00 Aaahhh!
Your adventures are like a role playing game. Start out with small equipment and then use it to help you get bigger equipment. That must be what makes this channel so fun :)
Who would have guessed you would use a skid steer and a mini excavator to rebuild a giant excavator..
Whenever I watch your videos like this, I always wonder how many men and what kind of tooling a professional shop uses to get the job done. For doing this yourself...Amazing!
He mentioned Cutting Edge Engineering..... Have a look at their channel... The guy is good!
One man and a lot of tools aka Kurtis from Cutting Edge Engineering Australia like Jon mentioned in the video.
The segment on the seal catalog was EXTREMELY helpful. Thank you.
Great series so far, even the catalogue demonstration. Thanks! A thinner pry tool to get those seals on may help to reduce the stretching a little.
Gotta say, 8K + shipping ain't bad at all. I know guys who pay more for cars than that regularly. Hell, guys pay more for motorcycles.
Good on ya and glad to follow the project.
People pay more for a off road buggy.
as someone who used to work on heavy equipment a lot, stationary mostly (where the cylinders you're working with are actually on the small side compared to what i'd have to fight with, think 12" barrel and 15' stroke as an average)...as i watch you do the hokey pokey trying to maneuver large heavy cylinders into position it just reminds me of all the incredible effort i had to go through to get BIG STUFF into SMALL PLACES with the wrong equipment, a pile of chains, wood, porta powers, and bigass prybars - and by myself a lot too! thankfully i was able to move my career into a technical field and save my body from worse injury.
i wish i was able to share some of my tips with you to save you the headaches...but you figure out a way that works eventually in the end anyway. i'm glad i found this channel, it's like cathartic nostalgia HAHAHA
I like to put a zip tie around the outside of stretched seals to help them go back to original size in a timely fashion.
Keep up the great work. I'm always happy to see you upload.
I've used a hose clamp and old wear band to good effect for this.
Thanks Jon, great videos on this old behemoth. Don't forget to order the seals for the opposing cylinder on the boom; you know that middle seal is disintegrated and ready to dissolve into the hydraulic filters soon!
Straight into the seal jokes, love it 😂 And 7700 for that machine is a steal!
got to seal those dad jokes in at the start.
@@SupremeRuleroftheWorldI see what you did there 😅
@@SupremeRuleroftheWorldget out 😂
As much as we all love your content and seeing you work , I think it's much more satisfying to see you get it right and working well without any extra headaches and cost. We're all pulling for you Jon! 👍❤️👍
We love mistakes! Definitely show them.
Jon, I love watching every one of your videos... Like someone else said in your last video, I'm starting to get heavy equipment envy.
A couple of highlights from this video that I loved you keeping in there...
27:55 - The pop and "what just happened" followed by...
32:36 - "I'll lightly screw this in this time and..." *splat* "I love this job..."
44:58 - Jon getting manhandled and hip tossed by the cylinder
Considering the cost of the seals we would always make a compression ring out of steel.Just a steel ring with the id of the cilinder with a 2" taper on one side. For the sleeves we would make a cone. After a while you have a whole set for most cilinders.
Jon, i dont think there is anything that you can tackle and repair better than new. Always impressed by your skillset and very logical thinking.
That was a good tutorial on getting seals for older machines. I may just have to get that catalog
Yeah, it’s easier than I realized. You just need to be able to measure accurately. A pair of groove calipers is a must.
You definitely stepped up your game with that camo seal. Didn’t realize I liked seals that much :):):)
I've been waiting for that gag for quite some time
11.7K, you got a good deal!!!
Hehe just came from CEE's channel here and you mentioned Kurtis's shop and working methods. I like your resourcefulness. ✌🏻👍🏻
a Little Giant ladder is superior to those thin aluminum bone/neck breakers, the newer ones have adjustable feet as well, making them very stable on uneven surfaces. I bought my 2nd 5" extendable for less than $100 at Lowes, (sold the first one to my company years ago) it cost me $350 used. the 2nd one is easier/safer than the first one. these are ladders that will outlive you, and most important, keep you in one piece.🤪👍
My grandson spends all of his time gaming in his room. He has no idea what he's missing doing a project like this!! Thank you, Jon!!❤
That's creepy, but then I'm an old guy.
When I was repacking cylinders, we would take an old antifreeze jug and cut strips out of it, wrap it around the piston seals and then put together a couple of screw clamps for the right diameter to act as a ring compressor. Worked great
During WW2 my dad was a flight engineer on a B-17. His whole class in training consisted of farmers. He said that the reason was they could figure out how to get things done.
Have you considered cleaning out the hydraulic oil tank to verify that there are no metal bits down in there? While it's so low seems like would be a good time to do that, if so inclined.
BTW: The way you were talking about this video at the beginning you made it seem like it wasn't exciting...dude...it was very exciting to me...this was an awesome episode! :)
New Frarmcraft video. Hit Like press Play! Thanks for bringing us along Jon. Hiya Dozer & missus on the lawn tractor. Take care & stay safe.
Just wants to see Jon and Kurtis having a BBQ sometime, chatting about stuff, sharing a couple of beers. Thanks Jon, helps a lot.
Love your content, but how do you manage your land/equipment/home/family/shop AND publish great content? Don't burn yourself out. Be well.
You're not a 'bad UA-camr', Jon. I found this very interesting. The width and breath of your posts keep me highly interested. Keep doing what you're doing. Please and thank you.
My FarmCraft101 senses were tingling and I decided to check UA-cam. I am not disappointed.
I love this channel so much!
I have Cutting Edge Engineering queued up after this, I really appreciate watching both for different reasons. Your tenacity and ingenuity, coupled with always learning and showing your mistakes makes for a really valuable and enjoyable viewing experience. Thank you for the videos!
Jon, Jon,Jon, please don't think that about your viewers, I for one do not want or like to see you make mistakes, when you do it doesn't bother me because I have seen you fix and get out of any mistakes you make. Jon, you are one of the most careful and dedicated fixers I have ever had the privilege to see. You have the tenacity of a spider building a web. Even when you make mistakes, you don't let it get you down for long. You pick yourself up quickly and move on. For me I am happy you bought this machine, its something I will never have in my lifetime, and it warms my heart to see you fixing it, any mistakes is a learning curve for you, you mention Kurtis quite a bit, but Kurtis is a self taught engineering guy not a farmer. If you had the tools he had, your very right things would go easier for you, but your job is farming and fixing stuff to the best of your ability and tools allow. It's like chalk and cheese, you have some wonderful equipment and tools and some very good ways of making up for your lack of professional tools in some areas. It's a privilege to watch how you solve problems without some of the tools that would make it easier for you. And your no cheap skate you are frugal with your money and of course you need to save money wherever you can. I love watching you save money in such wonderful and fascinating ways. It's a pleasure watching your videos and your ways of solving problems.
Glad to see the seals back . So the glans on the end of the rod lead to an impressive ejackulation of hydrolic oil . Well done Sir . They make aluminum ladders rated for 350 LBS that feel like you could park a truck on .
maybe you need to find a thin plastic shim to not stretch those seals so far and not screwdriver. Slide the ring over the shim (you can use that clear plastic stuff you had as a shim) till it gets where u want it, then remove the shim and it will go into place. Alot like the process of installing pistons with rings. It will keep from having to stretch it over each section.
I feel like to see someone who does this stuff as amateur as I get to see it from both sides when I watch cutting edge engineering and then your channel keep up the work. Not everybody has the big huge tools or the money to buy that stuff. You use what you got to get the job done
Love your videos, you are the king of patience and ingenuity. Thank you for taking the time to teach us about the process of locating seals and parts this can be harder for some of us than the actual work alot of the time. Maybe you could make this a part of more of your videos. Thanks John
Hears John mention 'Cutting Edge Engineering' and I feel instantly justified for ALSO watching that channel.
me too haha
CEE is awesome;
Homeless is the star of the show 😂
@@HighPr00f?*ppl
Great and simple explanation of baby steps of understanding Seals ! Who knew that we would learn how simply things could possibly be when you have confidence too understanding Seals !
I went ahead and gave each of the seals a fish.
I will give it to u Jon, the tenacity u have in tackling this stuff is really high up there, thanks for the video.
We now believe Job is in 2nd place in the patience business! We are learning patience while we wait to see the machine running. No rush.
The way this channel is progressing, I expect your next project to be a Liebherr R 9800!
thanks John, really enjoyed this! Nice to see the shout out to Curtis at CEE!
Wow, thanks for showing all of this and filming and describing all of this. Can't wait to see the new hydraulic line and see it fired up.
"shoot you should see my wooden one".... I know exactly what kind of wooden ladder you have!
My grandfather was an sign painter (hand painted signs for stores, theaters, etc) and used just such a wooden ladder until he passed away. It's older than me (possibly older than my dad for that matter), and it shows. It is painted, naturally not one color but all of them, and by now all the tread and sides have split. We still have it, naturally we don't use it, but it sits in my dad's garage along with the rest of the family history.
The best hydraulic shop in VA is Precission Hydraulic in Hollins VA, north east side of Roanoke. See Josh
They actually make hydraulic cylinders there, can rechrome rods, weld barrels, repair hydraulic motors/pumps and valve bodies
Jon what you achieve with the equipment you have & on your own is amazing 👏👏👏🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Jon, it's amazing how you do all that HEAVY work all by yourself. I really enjoy your videos, so thank you very much...
Love the videos. A wee tip for you. Use a strip of leather between your chain strap and flange so as to stop burrs happening.
Scrap yard Sally part 2. I have been looking forward to this since last week.
John, your work-a-rounds are a work of art.
this is why it costs so much to have this work done by Shops. It takes time and the right tools. Good on you for doing it yourself
One good thing about working on big hydraulic cylinders is, you won't be hurting any baby seals.
Jon, I told you it's name in the last video.😅. I agree with the bulk oil idea. Look for a oil distributor that sells to dealerships and heavy truck repair places. A couple of phone calls could save you money. An IBC tote of hydraulic oil could save you money in the long run
Just make sure it is compatible with all your equipment.
For o rings we always used waxed nylon cord, just make a loop and slide it around in a circle.
The good thing about that work keep you in shape. That’s some hard work.
Thank you for taking us along I learn a bunch
Necessarily is the mother of invention!! you have unique ways to get work done. I really enjoy your content. THANKS
It was a lot of work. I'm watching you a lot of time and as far as for my glance it was the hardest work. Good job!
Using the ratchet strap to push back the piston into the cylinder was genius!
Another great video, I love Friday nights. You did well to manage those cylinders on your own, hat off to you. Have you ever thought of buying your oils in IBC , it works out cheaper, but you need a stand for them to make it easy to decanter the oil into drums or jug. Can't wait till next Friday, have a great weekend.
I think the most interesting part of your content for me, is watching you tackle these jobs by yourself. Truly inspirational sir.
That is an incredible catalog and the number of options is amazing to me .....😊
The adventures on "Mercy Me" continues. Keep up the good work!
Great job, boss , it's a pity CUTTING EDGE ENGINEERING couldn't visit you over there and help out . LoL ❤
Well John, you've done it ! You're playin' with the big boys now! (Cheers for the guys at the Hawkins Graves Hydraulic Shop 😘). And no, you didn't get ripped off -- think of how much you've learned, how much you've accomplished AND you have a working dozer that would have cost you $100 K. Once fixed, it will work for you for decades -- AND if you wanted to, you could sell it as a truly functioning dozer, with VIDEO proof of its repairs. No worries, my good man! Yes indeed, you're playin' with the big boys now ! And winning !
Joh... you have singlehandedly redefined the definition of FUN!! GOOD MAN YOU!!😁👍💥
I love the way you manage to do stuff on your own by jerry rigging equipment, well done 👍🏻👌🏻
Your videos are awesome there is always something new and useful to learn. Also you can’t have too much or enough heavy equipment and other big fun toys!
I'll wait patiently for the next video. It's always worth it.
The mind says get it done the body says are you kidding. You're doing great John keep it up work at your own pace.
John, I like that you can apologize when things did not go as planned and you made a miss take.
Great job👍. Just an idea....
If I have to tighten things and try to be delicate I use a tire tube.leather. like old belt. plus I have some belting that is a little thicker but very flexible. I use it for my dogs door flap works great .
Why not hang your chain hoist from the bucket? Then use that to lift the cylinder. Then maybe you’d have 360 access?
Great content as always. Don’t mind the haters you work with what you got.
Hi @Taskarnin, I was thinking the exact same thing,having some experience in “crane rigging” in my youth. I’m sure if we were there in the real, the reason is probably clear. IDK? Hopefully he’ll fill us in. ✌️
Impressive job
Hey John, I could misremember my childhood, but I think that grease can make those seals "swell" and you should use oil for the slickery assembly lube. Just a thought.
I think you made a good deal for sure the fact you can work on it saves you a ton. Good information on the seals . Thanks
It’s a good day when farmcraft post a video
Lightly Poached Seal. Mmm. Great content Jon. Lovin it.
Jon just a quick note saying how much I looking forward to your videos. Since I have been watching your videos I purchased a Case 580d discounted because of a blown head gasket. I got it fixed and use it at my hunting camp. Your videos are helpful and now because of this last one I will be tackling the hydraulic system so thanks and keep up the great work
Found you during Covid, I'm A subscriber since i seen your first Vlog. John I normally don't comment. I'm in the maintenance and repair field. What I love about you is you can critical think your way thru issues. It's a skill not a lot of guys/gals have. I appreciate watching many repair vlogs, where the person keeps hammering at it till a solution can be found. Right or wrong a solution that works for you works for me. You keep making the Vlogs, I'll keep watching. And As far as trolls go.... There opinions are like ass holes everyone has one. Keep up the good work and Vlogs. Your my favorite farmer, repair Specialist.
It's been more than 40 years since I worked on hydraulics stuff in the Navy (that was my specialty, Aviation Hydraulics) but hazarding a guess: the gland nut and or the cylinder is slightly out-of-round. I'd suspect the cylinder itself more than the gland, but anything is possible.
It just happens. It's age, hours, heat/cold cycles, running a lot out of oil, making the thing overheat, hammering on the glands instead of using or making a spanner to fit.
You can measure it using a t-gauge for the inside and a micrometer on the inside of the cylinder.
It's pretty hard to measure straightness on the rod of an assembly that size. You'd almost have to have a shop do it for you.
That catalogue didn't have an entry for Fur Seals. 😲
When fixing the hole in the chrome, just remember that it's *your* rod so you can _polish it as fast and as often_ as you like. 🤭
I imagine that the $7,700 you paid for it wouldn't even cover the cost of a hydraulic fluid fill after putting clean fluid in the repaired cylinders. 🤔 I think you got a bloody bargain; a bit like the skid-steer you purchased and found the unknown issues with it when you got it home (and I was not being sarcastic about the skid-steer adventure). If the wonderful people out there in UA-cam land look at what you have paid for the old industrial equipment you have acquired and then looked at the prices for second-hand ones that had fewer issues then I think they'll find there was no way you could have justified the cost of the latter machines.
The really big bonus you received is the experience and knowledge you have gained fixing the machines up. You can't go to a store and buy five midrange figures ($$$) of experience off the shelf. Man you have won *big time* on your purchases in the 3½ to 4 years that I have been following your videos. Far king *MASSSIVE* wins there Jon. 👍👍 Hope you can claim buying, repairing and running these _essential farm tools_ against the farm income. You sure deserve a break in that direction IMO. 🤑🤑🤑
You could have asked Jesse Muller if you might have -borrowed- hired his low loader and moved _Mr Beast_ yourself.
Imagine having Mr Beast when you were digging out your neighbour's pond.......... 😍😍
*Thank You* for the videos Jon. 👍👍