5/4 Odd Time Beats - Drum Lessons

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  • @mitchelltheawesome1
    @mitchelltheawesome1 6 років тому +226

    This dude just seems like a genuinely good guy.

    • @NwoDispatcher
      @NwoDispatcher 4 роки тому +5

      He white supremacist

    • @mitchelltheawesome1
      @mitchelltheawesome1 4 роки тому +5

      @@NwoDispatcher I can't tell if this is bait or not.

    • @thenoobman93
      @thenoobman93 4 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @FallNorth
      @FallNorth 4 роки тому +2

      @@mitchelltheawesome1
      It's not true. Although when I asked him about the lettering on his new T shirt, he said it meant Beat Lengths Matter :P.

    • @sephiroth7818
      @sephiroth7818 3 роки тому +1

      He's the ringleader at drumeo currently 🤔

  • @CyrusSpringfellow
    @CyrusSpringfellow 9 років тому +455

    0:11 authenic 2007

  • @deja0entendu
    @deja0entendu 13 років тому +33

    Kit sounds amazing.
    None of these are complicated, but I'm assuming this would be gold for a beginner. I don't know how you could dislike this video. It's legit, free education.

  • @shivtekoriginal
    @shivtekoriginal 6 років тому +20

    11 years later and you're still just as incredibly helpful. Thanks, Jared.

  • @andrewjeffries8721
    @andrewjeffries8721 10 років тому +6

    I also just play drums with a keyboard and mouse, but this way of starting off simple, using sheet music to assist (for those of us who think visually) is excellent. No distracting words, showy technique or other unnecessary 'dramatics'. This has helped me. Thank you, Jared.

  • @jarrahoyen148
    @jarrahoyen148 10 років тому +15

    thanks for posting that. i'm not a drummer and sometimes need to work with other times such as 5/4 for a piece i'm working on. this helped me understand what the drummer is actually doing behind the track (which isn't yet written) and now i can space parts around it in my head

  • @PotaoDude
    @PotaoDude 12 років тому +1

    I'm not much of a drummer, but I love videos like this. They instruct odd meters much better than non-drummer videos. They really help with writing drum parts to my odd-metered music.

  • @padarg
    @padarg 16 років тому +28

    i taught myself to play drums, and when i started learning time signatures, i found it fairly simple. i had always played odd time signatures, i just never knew thats what they were.

    • @affeofen
      @affeofen 4 роки тому +2

      Same here but it's a good thing if you can understand at some point what you are intuitively doing :)

  • @DrumeoOfficial
    @DrumeoOfficial  17 років тому +4

    Yes this is Rock Beach! I am assuming you have been there? It is an absolutely stunning studio, one of the best we have ever been in.
    -FreeDrumLessons-

  • @21Rushisaband12
    @21Rushisaband12 13 років тому +14

    Best part about 5/4 is that Howard Shore, the film composer who did the Lord of the Rings film, actually had the orcs marching in 5/4 as they approached Minas Tirith

  • @henrymasters8319
    @henrymasters8319 2 роки тому +1

    Never been a jared fan but he has built amazing drumming empire.

  • @ThemLizards
    @ThemLizards 16 років тому +3

    Wow this is amazing. it sounds really tough to play, but its really not all that hard. ive been playing drums for over 4 years and have only really played in 3/4 and 4/4. What a treat this is! It makes drumming SO much more interseting!

  • @rajeshhkkapoor8549
    @rajeshhkkapoor8549 3 роки тому

    187 dislikes have no feel or sense of time or rhythm or gratitude... It's an amazing lesson... Am a noob at 53.. getting into Meshuggah / Ron JARZOMBEK type feel of dissonance and polymeters... This lesson is gold 🙏⚡⚡⚡⭐👍👍👍

  • @MehrbodR
    @MehrbodR 8 років тому +107

    it's easier if u counting it like this : 1.2.1.2.3. or 1.2.3.1.2 .

    • @es30888
      @es30888 7 років тому +7

      That's what Ralph Humphrey recommends, too. He approaches odd time as combination of "twos" and "threes".

    • @etherelement
      @etherelement 7 років тому +1

      Persian Karaoke .... It IS 12312 and 12123

    • @ashhalcyon
      @ashhalcyon 4 роки тому

      I instinctually do that. It just works.

    • @gregwill500
      @gregwill500 3 роки тому

      ta-din-ge-din-dah another way of saying 12345. and much more rhythmically satisfying. Check out konnakol counting - using rythmic sounds - there's lots of variations but its a great way to learning complicated time signatures and feel the groove.

  • @MrJeffParks
    @MrJeffParks 10 років тому +2

    You are a great resource, as I just started writing a song, which, lo and behold, is turning out to be in a 5/4 beat. This information will be a great help in writing the drum line. Thanks!

  • @yittmashups
    @yittmashups 11 років тому +2

    in any time signature, the tp number is how many count to the measure, and the bottom number is what kind of beat gets 1 count. so 5/8 means 5 counts, each one being an eighth note, and 5/4 is 5 counts, each being a quarter note

  • @bulzah
    @bulzah 11 років тому +59

    Lol those camera moves

  • @Greg-Ski
    @Greg-Ski 13 років тому +1

    Outstanding, I love how you explain what you are about to do before you do it, and how you play at moderate speed, keep it up, we are learning a lot

  • @Angelzxairwaves
    @Angelzxairwaves 16 років тому +3

    That's really cool how he does this for free for the good of drummers.
    Gives me a fuzzy feeling inside lol

  • @tamakit123
    @tamakit123 13 років тому

    wow he just helped me understand time signatures a lot better... so much easier when simple

  • @bcsonline
    @bcsonline 14 років тому +1

    When playing odd time signatures, I would also recommend learning the "clave" pattern of the individual song (clave is used loosely here.) An example would be the vamp on the song Take Five. Keep the vamp running in your head and base you’re playing around it. Your playing will stay in time and be musical. In my opinion, it is more interesting than trying to count beats.

  • @usaearthling
    @usaearthling 15 років тому

    This guy is a great teacher. He is very easy to understand.

  • @arjunalco6589
    @arjunalco6589 2 роки тому

    Its 14 damn years! Great job guys! You guys have taken everything over the top!

  • @josiahmathew
    @josiahmathew 4 роки тому +2

    If ur watching this in 2021 ur a legend u have my respect 😎

  • @DrumeoOfficial
    @DrumeoOfficial  17 років тому +1

    This is just the set up used for this shoot. The drummers of FDL like their kits set up very high. These Hi hats are just set up as high as they can go, practically at the top of the hats. The stand is no different.
    -FreeDrumLessons-

  • @StepFreq94
    @StepFreq94 16 років тому

    A really easy way to count odd time signatures is to just sub-divide the the measure.
    like 5/4 can be counted like 1+2+3+1+2+, turning it into a 3/4 measure followed by a 2/4 measure.
    6/8 can go to two 3/4 measures and so on.
    Idk if this is really easier, but is is for me.

  • @loochpe
    @loochpe 16 років тому

    It shows what note gets the beat.
    4=quarter note
    8=eighth note
    16=sixteeth note.
    I love 5/4. It just rolls so well if you do it right... which most people don't. haha.

  • @christopheles
    @christopheles 13 років тому +1

    Good stuff man. Nice of you to put it all online with sheet music as well. Thanks for sharing.

  • @nikooxmaster
    @nikooxmaster 14 років тому

    This guy is a really good teacher, I understand all his lessons and I don't even play drums

  • @conjigalo
    @conjigalo 16 років тому

    You are correct my friend.
    At first he is playing in 5/4 and later in the video he plays in 5/8.
    But the timing is still the same. it just gives a different feel.

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    I'll remind you this is the Senior Writer/Editor of Berklee Press for 7 years, as a musician for over 30 years, and with a both bachelor's and master's degrees in composition from New England Conservatory.
    I reckon he might have the upper hand on us here?

  • @philnoll
    @philnoll 15 років тому +1

    Supernova, how are you breaking them down?
    I like to do 11/16 in 3-3-3-2 format (Sounds like a 7/8 in swing time)
    My favorite breakdown of 13/16 is 7-7-7-5 (almost the same ratio)
    The number 26 is cool too, because add one beat, and you've got the 3 cubed, subtract one beat and you've got 5 squared, so its versatile.

  • @videoediv666
    @videoediv666 11 років тому

    Thanks, you made me see the simplicity of this rithm. Greetings from Chile.

  • @nakedpplinthestreet
    @nakedpplinthestreet 11 років тому

    lol. The camera changes are really funny...This kind of thing can be very helpful even for a guitarist or other musician. As a guitarist, learning different time signatures really helps me be more creative when I play. For example, Jack White uses a lot of strange time signatures. Having a really good sense of time also enables a player to sort of "bend" the time, playing behind or ahead of the actual beat which creates different types of tension.

  • @DEEECKED
    @DEEECKED 13 років тому

    I played beat 4 for my band members... they were totally psyched out!

  • @altacert
    @altacert 13 років тому

    Excellent instruction and drummer too. Wow.... Great...

  • @TheWALOS
    @TheWALOS 13 років тому

    You can also get a 5/4 beat to sound more natural if you play the snare on the sixth 8th note of the bar. That places the snare hit in the middle of the bar, and actually makes for a beat that doesn't sound jumpy or skippy at all.

  • @OfficialReggarf
    @OfficialReggarf 2 місяці тому

    Maybe im just a pad drummer (like those 4x4 squares on controller) for my productions sake, but this is really helpful even for that. Thank You very much.

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    @KingRundzap
    time signature exists if one can divisively organise rhythmic phrases into odd and even numbers / fractions and subdivisions thereof.

  • @nhdude6
    @nhdude6 15 років тому

    Daney Carey of Tool is amazing for odd timed beats, but it's such hard drumming, GOOD LUCK trying to play it

  • @northernlight4614
    @northernlight4614 Рік тому +1

    Excellent explanation.

  • @DrummerRF
    @DrummerRF 13 років тому

    Beyond this life is a great example of 5/4

  • @MayGuh
    @MayGuh 14 років тому

    the 1st pattern he played is in the song "long distance runaround" by Yes.
    they are the 1st group that i ever heard 5/4

  • @Trollkriger
    @Trollkriger 13 років тому

    i play bass and i've helped drummers with these kinds of time signatures

  • @tomagee420
    @tomagee420 Місяць тому

    This is gonna really psych out my band members

  • @guyboy625
    @guyboy625 13 років тому +2

    1:46
    1,3-dibase-2,4-disnare-5-hihatpentaquartane

    • @TheCzarsoham
      @TheCzarsoham 4 роки тому

      It's been nine years, but as a chemistry student, I appreciate your humour

  • @futurfry
    @futurfry 14 років тому

    I feel seriously good about myself for getting all of these down right away

  • @AstroSalamander
    @AstroSalamander 3 роки тому +1

    so 5/4 is really good for odd clunky sounding music. This will be very helpful in game ost's

  • @ccrstucook
    @ccrstucook 12 років тому

    Im bassist and I understand very well , actually on rythm I think is easy , you only think on 5 / 4 and counting , but qhen you know about harmony and composition es a little beat more confuse make a song in 5/4 , but not impossible Take Five !!!!

  • @Maxarcc
    @Maxarcc 4 роки тому

    Man I remember these when I just started out! Thanks for helping me out Jared!

  • @wiouxev
    @wiouxev 14 років тому

    His drums sound amazing!

  • @karnivorx
    @karnivorx 13 років тому

    @AreaCode978 A lot of people have a different method. Some people feel very comfortable in other time signatures. Personally, I will often write a drum beat or guitar line and don't even realize until later what time signature it's in. Once I wrote a guitar line and figured out I was playing 5/4, 5/4, 2/4. Other people purposefully write a song in a different meter and then make a big deal about it (like the jazz song Take 5).

  • @just_curi0us
    @just_curi0us 5 років тому

    why is this guy so calm!

  • @vegadomis32988
    @vegadomis32988 4 роки тому

    Set sounds amazing

  • @KillianDeaton
    @KillianDeaton 7 років тому

    5/4 is one of my all time favorites to play

  • @ricohorton
    @ricohorton 16 років тому

    nice Jared. i am curious about the click on your left. is that what i am hearing on the sample and what brand is it?

  • @italiangypsy79
    @italiangypsy79 3 роки тому

    1:12 and that's how John Carpenter came up with the idea to take that exact rhythm and put it on the piano/synth to create one of the most iconic movie themes ever... Halloween Main Score

  • @Shaqhawk
    @Shaqhawk 13 років тому

    @AreaCode978 The situation depends on some factors. Sometimes people play things that are simply played in a different time, sometimes they want to make a beat/riff in a different time so then the timing comes first. Personally, I play a beat in 4/4 first and then sometime I'll think of an addition to the beat that makes it sound better and different timing. so it goes either way

  • @D0nCab
    @D0nCab 14 років тому

    @eatrocksah odd time signature doesnt mean odd as in unusual, it means odd as in not an even amount of beats.

  • @y2ksw1
    @y2ksw1 9 років тому

    If you have problems counting up to five (it can easily be), split into alternating 3 and 2 counts, which can add additional movement and slight accents. With this technique you also reach easily other odd counts, such as 11/8's and produce the right feeling (Take Five, btw).

    • @miang58
      @miang58 9 років тому +1

      +y2ksw1 2s and 3s are great for building all sorts of rythyms even in 4/4

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    The question was: I understand odd times that are over 4 and 8, like 5/4 and 7/8 and anything else with 4 or a multiple of it on the bottom, but something I don't quite get is time signatures with other numbers on the bottom. Like 5/7?

  • @sinkingship101
    @sinkingship101 11 років тому +25

    Damn click track... I'd like to sample this stuff. 5/4 loops are hard to come by

    • @MrSinghisking24
      @MrSinghisking24 4 роки тому +7

      Still sampling it, click track and all would be a power move

  • @007WillSch
    @007WillSch 14 років тому

    Great lesson man

  • @SuicidalSpider
    @SuicidalSpider 17 років тому

    Yeah it's definitely for beginners. You should show some double-bass-pedal in 5/4, it sounds awesome....

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    @KingRundzap
    I think there's a few people that'd like to see a video of you demonstrating the written score and how to play / count it.
    I think that way I'm likely to follow what you're saying.
    all the best.

  • @KingRundzap
    @KingRundzap 14 років тому

    The guideline for choosing what time signature to write something in should be, "What is most likely to get this played the way I want?" If you write something phrased in 4s in 3/4, it's likely to at least lead to time being wasted while musicians figure it out.

  • @exjesus202
    @exjesus202 16 років тому

    My comment was directed at Dailydent, who's saying that "non-musicals aren't bright enough to get music either"
    He's teaching beginners musicianship so he should be phrasing it as such.

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    One of the answers that kindly came in was:
    Hi Corey,
    I'll go out on a limb here and risk looking stupid.
    As Senior Writer/Editor of Berklee Press for 7 years, as a musician for over 30 years, and with a both bachelor's and master's degrees in composition from New England Conservatory, I have never ever seen an odd number in the bottom number of a time signature.
    Finale, which is essentially the world's most powerful notation program, doesn't support writing them.

  • @mitchem890
    @mitchem890 13 років тому

    @austinwmson Yea it doesnt matter could be 5/32nds if he wanted. it just depends on how he counts it and the context in which its used in.

  • @misterdrum78
    @misterdrum78 16 років тому

    Great job. Thanks for the tips.

  • @jordanlannert1
    @jordanlannert1 13 років тому

    Your drums sound amazing

  • @favd2002
    @favd2002 16 років тому

    yamaha absolute maple, cool kit!!!

  • @todoz11
    @todoz11 15 років тому

    they're arguably the best band ever in terms of technique and stuff.

  • @KingRundzap
    @KingRundzap 14 років тому

    @AntiPirateSquad I pointed out earlier that in 5/7, quarter notes then work differently than they do in 5/4. Two quarters, at the start of a bar, would be played on "1" and the "a" of "2". Again, you could write that differently. You can write ANYTHING in ANY time signature.

  • @claucastaneda7894
    @claucastaneda7894 4 роки тому

    You really helped me, I'm making a song in 5/4, thanks

  • @Rizilo
    @Rizilo 13 років тому

    As a bassist, these beats and rhythms are simple. When you get into percussion bass, you do a lot more complex rhythms.

  • @mee11mee
    @mee11mee 14 років тому

    ill be honest... these videos are a bit dorky. but give him credit. this is a GREAT tutorial.

  • @Grimster
    @Grimster 6 років тому +11

    SHE TURNED MY DAD ON SHE TURNED MY DAD ON DAD ON DAD ONNNN wait that is my dad

  • @sceneIs
    @sceneIs 14 років тому +1

    i added an extra step whilst i was walking today
    it was pretty interesting

  • @ebpat
    @ebpat 15 років тому

    The drums sound great. What brand are they?

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    @KingRundzap no, there's no beef, I'd just like to beleive there was a simple way to explain what you're saying so we can arrive at the point where you realise there's a simpler way to score and count 5/7, or that there's a good chance 5/7 doesn't exist?
    What's the difference between 5:7 and 5/7 then? perhaps this is where I'm loosing you? sorry if so.

  • @supranormal_
    @supranormal_ 15 років тому +12

    His voice: Okay, I'm really excited for this video lesson! We're going to be playing through some 5/4 beats!
    His face: T_T

  • @BlckSbthMan
    @BlckSbthMan 13 років тому

    Odd times signatures are probably the most interesting thing I've ever witnessed.

  • @LeoSypniewskiMusic
    @LeoSypniewskiMusic 17 років тому

    the mix is great
    good lesson

  • @G27dude
    @G27dude 13 років тому +2

    Thanks. Needed a beat for this weird acoustic part I wrote. I didn't know how to make a 5/4 beat. lol

  • @Rogmeister999
    @Rogmeister999 15 років тому

    Because they play lots of odd timed stuff. And they rock.

  • @ThatMadeMeLmao
    @ThatMadeMeLmao 16 років тому

    toms sound amazing

  • @KingRundzap
    @KingRundzap 14 років тому

    Re differences between, say 3/4 and 6/8: There are some pretty well-entrenched conventions about time signatures with respect to typical accents and phrasing, but those conventions are broken just as often. Really, ANYTHING could be written in ANY time signature--phrases would just line up with bars unusually. Stravinsky did that kind of thing all the time, btw. Look at some of his scores while listening to the pieces.

  • @bubisoap
    @bubisoap 16 років тому

    It means that the rhythm will have an eight note feel, count it 1&2&3&4&5&
    That's pretty much it...listen to Sting's ten summoner's tales with Vinnie colaiuta playing 5/8 and 7/8 feels on several songs to get the idea...

  • @69adrummer
    @69adrummer 15 років тому

    NO SHIT! One song: Lateralus! 9/8 8/8 7/8 repeating! Blows the mind!

  • @KingRundzap
    @KingRundzap 14 років тому

    @AntiPirateSquad 5/7 would be a time signature. 5 "beats" in the measure, and one note of an eighth note septuplet grouping (in 4/4) gets one beat. 5:7 is a notation that we're going to play a quintuplet--a 5 note grouping, in the space where we'd usually play a septuplet (a 7 note grouping). The way to think of it would be a "5 on 7" polyrhythm. It could occur as quarter notes, eighth notes, sixteenth notes, even over a number of bars, and in any time signature.

  • @ZAK1813
    @ZAK1813 3 місяці тому

    BIG THANK YOU !😎

  • @Greg-Ski
    @Greg-Ski 12 років тому

    Love Beat Number Four!

  • @ChandlerCashdollar
    @ChandlerCashdollar 13 років тому

    thats an awesome drum kit

  • @evaactonstokes
    @evaactonstokes 7 років тому

    Thanks! You just helped me a lot with this video.

  • @bitchboy6317
    @bitchboy6317 6 років тому

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    This lesson covers six odd-time beats that are played in the 5/4 time signature. Unlike most rock drum beats, that are played in 4/4 with four quarter notes per measure, these beats are played with five quarter notes per measure. Watch the included video for step-by-step training on how to count and play these unique beats.
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    2 years ago
    0:11 authenic 2007
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    Persian Karaoke
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    it's easier if u counting it like this : 1.2.1.2.3. or 1.2.3.1.2 .
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    masonery123
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    5/4 and 7/8 are best time signatures, unconditionally
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    This man would never steal your gf
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    Just PLAY!!
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    1 year ago
    5/4 beats for potatoes
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    Steven Butler
    3 years ago
    I didn't know Anthony Jeselnik played drums.
    4
    Scott Ferrare
    6 months ago
    Here’s an original solo bass composition of mine in 5/4.. Thank you for checking out!
    ua-cam.com/video/xfYnGbv4zWw/v-deo.html
    3
    Ty Finn
    4 years ago
    Damn click track... I'd like to sample this stuff. 5/4 loops are hard to come by
    3
    Andrew Jeffries
    3 years ago
    I also just play drums with a keyboard and mouse, but this way of starting off simple, using sheet music to assist (for those of us who think visually) is excellent. No distracting words, showy technique or other unnecessary 'dramatics'. This has helped me. Thank you, Jared.
    3
    Henrik Bergström
    1 year ago
    This man would never steal your gf
    3
    zippyzee
    3 months ago
    you hair is screaming 1987
    2
    Polumrak
    2 years ago
    Amazing! Now I understand all I need )
    1
    Glen
    10 months ago
    Mastodon's Brann takes you through it all. 😉
    1
    Alex
    11 months ago
    quand vas tu rentre
    1
    Whoopty Doo
    4 years ago
    Lol those camera moves
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    WhatSideOfTheBed DidYouWakeUpOn
    1 year ago
    Led Zeppelins Blackdog... is that played in 5/4 ????
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    Jarrah Oyen
    3 years ago
    thanks for posting that. i'm not a drummer and sometimes need to work with other times such as 5/4 for a piece i'm working on. this helped me understand what the drummer is actually doing behind the track (which isn't yet written) and now i can space parts around it in my head
    2
    Samuel Duque
    2 years ago
    "WTF?" of OK Go is a good example of 5/4...
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  • @Joeywas_here
    @Joeywas_here 3 роки тому

    Omg you've come on long way my friend on camera haha you da best

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    @KingRundzap yes, I am saying the same thing three times dude, but I'm worried you're not hearing me.
    I'm going to post 'from' a link from a forum I'm on. I'm hoping this'll shed light on why I don't get how you can possibly arrive at 5/7 or 5:7 ok.

  • @drmcscroogle240
    @drmcscroogle240 13 років тому

    These guys actually are extremely helpful, I mean, free sheet music? Not many people would give you the skin of their shite

  • @Naitsirk808
    @Naitsirk808 14 років тому

    @KingRundzap
    I've got a degree in Music (Ba Hons) I should be able to get my head round what you're saying, but since score is far easier for me than someone's / anyone's explanation, it'd be really appreciated, I'm sure not just by me but others' who feel they can't get their heads round the fact you just reinvented the law of western music and time signatures after some thousands of years...
    :b