I am surprised that riot is trying to push her towards a "proper" build with buffs to the crit path instead of heavy hammering her numbers down and making her unplayable in both tank and crit builds.
@@minhcuonghuynh2768 Not really? They leaned both of them more towards Crit by bringing down base damage in favour of increased AD scalings - because the Crit build has higher AD.
@@minhcuonghuynh2768 Sure, but you're also forgetting that her atk speed ratio is up as well. Idk the math on that part, but If you're hitting all your Qs anyway, I'd imagine the dps should be closing in on about the same. (and of course, eventually there reaches a point where she does *more* damage.) All this, and she's also more mobile than before, with the Crit build.
@@praos528 I mean even with her current build she still kinda does get one tapped. The only problem is she can just yeet herself over a wall and ride it all the way back to base.
@@victoralejandrotrimmerestr3672 Then it would be the same as other adcs bc to make it in time ( they plan to make champions for all 5 roles every year ) they must do fast but they couldn't get enough ideas to create an unique champion
I honestly dont like it. Every time a different build/playstile comes around rito is there to homogenize their game and make more stale and boring. "We want you to play Tahm as support, even though we changed his kit to work toplane, now we specifically nerf him for solo-lanes only." ... cool now nobody plays him anymore anywhere ...
@@noneofyourbusiness3288 tbf that was kinda dumb, but these changes are nowhere near tahm level, over all she is still an ADC, and now they're making her build actual ADC items
Idk about that, with improved Overcharged stacking and her E coming off cd much faster, she doesn't need that flat ms, she just wants to cap out her crit rate as much as she can to ensure it's consistent for both her dps and these 2 mechanics. (Also if you've played Crit Zeri already, you'd know she hits a lot harder than what you're used to with Triforce Zeri~ This + her squishiness makes it a different play pattern entirely.)
@@onimusha3478 Almost, ER -> Kraken -> IE. Though with these new changes, namely the atk speed ratio increase - Shieldbow and Galeforce might be viable on her now. And honestly, we could end up seeing a build like: ER -> Shieldbow -> BT. The changes really open up her itemization options (besides the zeal item problem, but that's fine~)
@@mranderson2048 Except the issue was she was mobile AND had 3000 health so when you DID get on top of her she just shrugged it off and didn't die. Before these changes, if you got on top of ER+Kraken Zeri she literally exploded because her base stats are actually pretty horrendous. The trade off is crit Zeri actually does damage before like 3+ items.
@@amethonys2798 that's literally the reason she is still played bruiser, she has horrendous base stats which for a champ built around being a hypermobile carryy is unplayable, the crit build had 45% wr on release for a reason
I'm really glad that they're pushing Zeri to build full crit rather than bruiser. A champ that's tanky with good damage, range, and mobility is so hard to deal with. Now do the same to Ezreal.
Ezreal is the most flexible ADC at the moment since he can go tanky, lethality, and AP, and still do massive damage. There aren't much ADC's like him, personally I don't think they should change him.
To be honest I don't mind this. It incentivizes players to play her really well now since her optimal build makes her so frail. However, if she ends up being irelia'd and becomes overtuned, we will absolutely have a problem. It's risky, but I think it's a risk worth taking. Props to Riot for, in general and here, being willing to take a chance, you have to at least give them that.
I kinda want to experiment a bit with her, doing something like Triforce into crit (PD or Runnan/BT/IE?)a la Gangplank since Essence Reaver and crit mythics are doodoo on her and Tri is a huge powerspike for her.
You just taught me that you can use the French expression "à la" in English, thanks! (also no idea about your build but it sounds fun, have a good day!)
Riot: Let's try and force Zeri to go crit! Also Riot: Makes crit mythics and IE more expensive and nerfs Galeforce meaning she won't have a viable crit mythic
The sole culprit is melee ADCs, aka wind brothers & Tryndamere. If any adc item is remotely good on actual adcs, they're broken on these three. So, ADC items have to be balanced (under-powered, in other words) so that they don't make Yas/Yone/Trynda turbo broken.
@@mranderson2048 i still say just make the crit mythics ranged only. the windshitters and the angry beyblade can keep their current bs, and adcs can have mythic items that actually work. but that wont happen, cause im convinced riot wants all adc players to quit the game.
@@mranderson2048 I mean, did Riot not think of nerfing/rebalancing these 3 champions instead? or giving some of these crit items reduced effects for melee champions? Not that far-fetched is it?
@@einjharrelraca Except adc are not weak by any means. They are supposed to be glass cannon and the whole team depends on their damage late game if you dont know how to play your role then normally it would feel very weak
Leave it to rito, to instead of balancing a unique playstyle/build, try everything in their power to force people to play the champion the way they intended (rip top-lane Tahm Kench T_T). Like the idea of the ranged bruiser is cool, she might just be a bit too good at it.
Because feature and power creep. But its not like Zeri was turbo broken. She has reasonable winrate numbers in master and its much lower the lower the ranks go. Her damage is ass, Tank Zeri is basically just a hard to kill mosquito running around and poking at you. ADC Zeri has no damage at all.
I'm glad they are trying to remove the tanky build. I'm so tired of having unkillable Zeris in the enemy team and having useless Zeris in my team who aren't even tanky and deal no damage
@@t3chn0dr0n3 nah, what are yas and yone gonna build? Those poor windshitters would have to build two damage items instead of shieldbow ie into full defensive :ccccc I'm joking if course riot needs to stop sucking off those two and nerfing items for adcs to make yas and yone not be fucki g broken
Can't really change your mind on crit, but I love these changes, being even more of an glass canon with enhanced movement just speaks to me Plus apparently titanic zeri was broken as fuck (wouldn't know, I never built her correctly)
So instead of a Zeri that's Tanky and dealing tons of Damage with the potential to run away/chase you, to a Zeri with less tankyness but higher Dmgs and that you can't ever catch as soon as she ults and Dashes everywhere? Doesn't sound like it will change much, just the fact that if you stun her you'll maybe be able to take her down, but she'll maybe be able to down you before
It looks like the crit Zeri example is full build with navori. Most games you won’t be dealing with someone dashing every 4 shots. Her early game got slapped, she has to get there first.
Zeri was really strong but i'm kind of sad about the homogenization of the adc pool, Zeri was interesting and unique because she was allowed to build items that other adc's didn't. I understand why they did it but it's unfortunate that it had to turn out this way.
she was interesting in the way that a car crash is, she was a tank with range and huge mobility along with pretty decent dmg after an item or two. that was anything but okay, like the trade off for being tanky is supposed to be a lack of mobility/dmg but she lacked neither
@@goranpersson7726 it definitely wasn't balanced the best that's for sure. I like the concept of Zeri, and I like the idea of an adc that can build a kind of bruiser playstyle. Maybe the two things weren't meant to be together :(
Bruiser Ranged champions are a big no. We saw what happened to Graves top, Urgot whenever he's strong, Kindred with her Frozen Mallet PD and Black Cleaver build, Tankzreal and etc... It's just broken and impossible to balance. ADC's need to be easily killed by Assassins or Fighters.
@@ExGamerNovo yeah, it's unfortunate that I'll probably never get to see a balanced iteration of a ranged bruiser champion. I was experimenting with the titanic hydra runaans build on some other adcs but none of them really got my as excited as Zeri did :(
@@RK-gv7rc Nerfs on what? Her already middling numbers? She does literally no damage outside of ult and the only reason her tank on-hit build worked was because her R's chain lightning proc'd on-hit effects. Yeah no I see her getting buffed.
@@freshlymemed5680 just nerf it, she needs -50MS, rework the W, the E & the Q + R to be less damaging and cool. lower her life pool, and mana regen lower that too.
She gets hard-countered by Kalista because she can't even hit her with her Qs. I've supported a Zeri vs Kalista and she's just useless, can't do any dmg to her.
I think we're forgetting something here... oooh navori quickblade, it will make her cd go nuts, but if she building crit it wont change much once an assassin jump on her
Of all ADCs she has every tool to make it difficult for assassins to jump on her; she has long range, high mobility, and a free escape over walls. The fact that she's currently able to build tank and survive assassins/bruisers jumping on her when she's mispositioned is ridiculous.
Finally, a real ADC. Not a f*cking mosquito in the Rift. But now it's more easier for her to get one-shotted by an Assassin. IF players start to build Crit.
Tbh these changes don't stop Triforce from being viable, Triforce is still the easier build to use. But hopefully these changes will not only help Crit (since it got nerfed constantly in the Triforce build's steed) but also make people realise that Crit is actually something you can take on Zeri over Triforce.
@@devilix123987 I did that on her on release but i switched my mind somewhere in the middle of then and now, I will definitely be switching back to the crit build
ya, like she wasnt broken before... sure people defend it, but most people are hard stuck silver and gold, and they dont know how to counter good zeri players.
She still won't be the same as a "normal crit adc." They want her to go crit so that she's squishy, because a high damage, high range, mobile, and tanky champion has no proper weaknesses.
We actually don't. There are like 15 ADCs in the entire game. Zeri was supposed to add to that number, not get shifted to top, where we already have Quinn and the likes.
The fun part of her was supposed to be that she is very fast and that she runs around a lot, imo its better for a champ thats difficult to hit to be squishy aswell...
Riot pls just delete this shit champ, its way too difficult to play against her honestly. Theres a fuckton of dmg while she kites you with 450 movespeed AND has a dash that resets (and way faster on crits). Stridebreaker lost the dash because it covered the natural weakness of a juggernaut but this can exist??
People really be annoyed that Riot is avoiding the monstruosity that is a tank with mobility and dmg huh? Did you forget why they reworked Fizz, reversed the change and then killed his stats? And why they made Ekko more viable building AP? Everyone hated that patch where assassins were still oneshotting you, but not dying at all.
what a shame, i saw zeri as a unique adc, bruiser adc, same as we have assassin support (pyke) and adc jungle (kindred), they are just killing of a unique thing instead of just making it work, big thumbs down to riot
I think Triforce ion Zeri is pretty weak in general. She has the worst base AD out of all ADCs and triforce scales of base AD. Renunace is also not that strong unless you really hit 3 targets. These changes will push her more to shieldbow. Also there is cool interaction with Navori Quickblades. When she ults and hit targets, it reduces the e and w cooldown. I think it is going to be pretty strong.
Seems like they want people to stop building that stupid build that just cones and fans out like an MF Ult with a single q. You don't need to be good at landing skill shots if your Q literally just hits everything infront of you like old School Doom.
this isn't going to make her better. the reason why people go brusier build is because she is extremely squishy. her base HP is only 500 which is extremely low.
she always was supposed to be a typical ADC crit build, not some stupid ass fuckin whatever that shit was, build. Tested her with crit when she first came out and she works very well with PTA and crit. Her drawback is she does take a little longer to get "rolling" vs other ADC's, shes much like Draven is in that sense. If she can hit her power spikes early and get some early kills (not fucking assists) she will steamroll over the other team. If she is denied kills early or gets behind, she is practically useless, much like what happens to a Draven who gets assists and not kills early game.
well imma think quit league honestly too much bullshit all the new champions do too much damage and they never know how to nerf them or gave them a decent rework. And instead of solving the problem they keep making champions.
Honestly im sad there trying to get rid of the bruiser build, sure its op rn but they could tune down her numbers, I think its awsome that she has such a different build path and really like that the community made her so optimally different
It's not even 'op' exactly, just an easier way of playing the champ (than crit - especially since all the nerfs hit Crit MORE than the Bruiser build), not very interactive, and not fun to play against. These changes STILL probably don't stop people from building Bruiser on her, but rather heavily incentivise/encourage people to play Crit instead. Edit: and no, nerfing her numbers will pretty much do nothing, because this isn't what makes the Bruiser build work (hense why all the nerfs of this nature had only hurt the Crit build, and not stopped people using the Bruiser build at all). Without reworking her kit in a more sizable way, you would pretty much have to nerf down items like Triforce and Titanic to make an impact - two items that are so useless on every other champion atm, and therefore need a rework anyway.
@@brosephstinson1297 if you complain about triforce build, shes "tanky and mobile" but does fuckall damage later on. If she builds crit, she does some real damage but shes giga paper and is at risk of being killed before she can stack her ulti.
From creative to nothing. Now she just a fast trash. Riot shouldnt release her in the first place. Let people get creative a little bit Riot. league is getting old, not sure if it can be gold
she hada tanky build with a lot of HP and resists with on hit, now they are giving her mobility but she now will die when locked down like a normal adc
ok no cap i think riot did something right this time, fighting bruiser zeri is cancer, this at least allows for a lot more skill expression from both sides
I am surprised that riot is trying to push her towards a "proper" build with buffs to the crit path instead of heavy hammering her numbers down and making her unplayable in both tank and crit builds.
Actually, they also nerfed heavily on her Q and W.
@@minhcuonghuynh2768 Not really? They leaned both of them more towards Crit by bringing down base damage in favour of increased AD scalings - because the Crit build has higher AD.
@@devilix123987 But still nerfed her overall q dmg scaling from 15% to 10%
@@devilix123987 reduce 20 base dmg for 10% AD. You need 200 AD to compensate for it, nearly half of it if Q crit.
@@minhcuonghuynh2768 Sure, but you're also forgetting that her atk speed ratio is up as well. Idk the math on that part, but If you're hitting all your Qs anyway, I'd imagine the dps should be closing in on about the same.
(and of course, eventually there reaches a point where she does *more* damage.)
All this, and she's also more mobile than before, with the Crit build.
More mobile, maybe more damage, but only if you build normal adc items 🤔
well you see, she is an adc
As you are supposed to build on an adc
Almost like thats exactly what theyre trying to do with the changes cause she is in fact an adc
Meaning shell be one tapped unless extremely skillful
@@praos528 I mean even with her current build she still kinda does get one tapped. The only problem is she can just yeet herself over a wall and ride it all the way back to base.
Riot is really pushing her to become a real adc
which is stupid because her design is not of a normal adc, if they wante a real adc why not create one without all of her unique item interactions
@@victoralejandrotrimmerestr3672 Then it would be the same as other adcs bc to make it in time ( they plan to make champions for all 5 roles every year ) they must do fast but they couldn't get enough ideas to create an unique champion
@@victoralejandrotrimmerestr3672 what??? LMAO
I honestly dont like it. Every time a different build/playstile comes around rito is there to homogenize their game and make more stale and boring. "We want you to play Tahm as support, even though we changed his kit to work toplane, now we specifically nerf him for solo-lanes only." ... cool now nobody plays him anymore anywhere ...
@@noneofyourbusiness3288 tbf that was kinda dumb, but these changes are nowhere near tahm level, over all she is still an ADC, and now they're making her build actual ADC items
Finally, no more tank zeri and actually crit zeri
zri trinity runan tiamat spectral dancer and ginsoo
@@aiirus15 guinsoo makes 0 sense lmao
I don't think that this will kill tank Zeri
not really you can still build tank ... just add some crit in the build , and you will become a tank that can fly around :3
@@fmnuko7344 mhm just build a runnans bam crit zeri pepelaugh
I guess she will just go crits plus wit's end... She maybe won't have 1100 hp in her build anymore but will be the speed even faster...
So they made the problem worse. Dumbfuck company lol
Idk about that, with improved Overcharged stacking and her E coming off cd much faster, she doesn't need that flat ms, she just wants to cap out her crit rate as much as she can to ensure it's consistent for both her dps and these 2 mechanics.
(Also if you've played Crit Zeri already, you'd know she hits a lot harder than what you're used to with Triforce Zeri~ This + her squishiness makes it a different play pattern entirely.)
Wit's end has on hit effects, I think it goes kraken, essence river, infinity edge...
@@onimusha3478 Almost, ER -> Kraken -> IE.
Though with these new changes, namely the atk speed ratio increase - Shieldbow and Galeforce might be viable on her now.
And honestly, we could end up seeing a build like: ER -> Shieldbow -> BT.
The changes really open up her itemization options (besides the zeal item problem, but that's fine~)
if you have kraken and runaans in your build, wits will overcap the max Q CDR, making it shite
Can we turn all damage in this game down 3 second teamfights are so boring it's just a oneshot fest
Play all tanks/fighters in every role, problem solved.
@@Raven1015 oh yes, cant wait to play my tank caitlyn
@@matyasslavicek7513 As soon as your Cringebow+Cringethirster adc starts winning, it's fucking over.
Better than the tank meta of a few years ago where you literally got ran down under tower by 5 5k HP champs
@@matyasslavicek7513 i think there is a yt video about a grandmaster tank caitlyn
I don't know about the impact of the changes, but titanic hydra Zeri was not OK
its no worse than what bruisers and assassins are all doing right now.
Mobility is the most annoying part of Zeri. I'd take on tank Zeri all the time if she wasn't jumping more walls than Talon.
@@mranderson2048 Except the issue was she was mobile AND had 3000 health so when you DID get on top of her she just shrugged it off and didn't die. Before these changes, if you got on top of ER+Kraken Zeri she literally exploded because her base stats are actually pretty horrendous. The trade off is crit Zeri actually does damage before like 3+ items.
@@amethonys2798 that's literally the reason she is still played bruiser, she has horrendous base stats which for a champ built around being a hypermobile carryy is unplayable, the crit build had 45% wr on release for a reason
Titanic hydra was amazing and helped her mediocre wave clear
They really dont want brusier zeri
She was the only adc that could tank something, this meta is all about instakilling everything...
@@enoshrs Ezreal says hello
@@seakiwii Ez doesn't tank, he just stay 3 miles away from any treat, this doesn't counts...
All of her previous reworks were to push her to build crit instead of bruiser, but people don't stop (?)
@@enoshrs Kog'maw also builds tanky. Every Kog'maw has a Randuins by the end of the game. I've also seen Vayne's with 4th item Randuins/Anathema's.
Man Riot hates the triforce build THAT much that they will give her a 3 second cd dash.
gonna be 1.5 second when you build Navori
Never been a problem with lucian.
I'm really glad that they're pushing Zeri to build full crit rather than bruiser. A champ that's tanky with good damage, range, and mobility is so hard to deal with.
Now do the same to Ezreal.
ez is shit
Personally I’m ok with ezreal bc he doesn’t do nearly the same damage nor have nearly the tankiness of zeri bc he has to go manamune.
E of Ez is not nearly as broken as E of Zeri
Ezreal is the most flexible ADC at the moment since he can go tanky, lethality, and AP, and still do massive damage. There aren't much ADC's like him, personally I don't think they should change him.
Yeah let's make whole lane with least amount of meta champions anyway, do the same items on every single one of them. Got any more great ideas?
idk why riot let us buy any item when they force the players to play specific builds
wow I think this might spark some SUPER crazy off-meta build where this adc actually builds crit instead of tank items
haha spark
To be honest I don't mind this. It incentivizes players to play her really well now since her optimal build makes her so frail. However, if she ends up being irelia'd and becomes overtuned, we will absolutely have a problem. It's risky, but I think it's a risk worth taking. Props to Riot for, in general and here, being willing to take a chance, you have to at least give them that.
Ah come onnnnnn, I really liked Triforce Zeri. It was so fun when I discovered it even before seeing pros building her that way. 😭
I quite missed Black Cleaver & Frozen Mallet Jhin even before Youmuus YT did a video about that build
Finally, she's being forced to go Crit, whether she goes Essence 1st or Tri 1st idc just as long as this stupid Bruiser build dies.
these changes just "promote" the crit build, not actual nerf to the tank build.
so ya, tank build will still be viable but crit is more appealing
@@mranderson2048 It's a nerf. She can't bounce her on-hit during R anymore.
is she really "forced to"? she gets more stuff from crit, but i havent seen any nerfs for the other build.
Ah a new reason to
Nerf asol
I kinda want to experiment a bit with her, doing something like Triforce into crit (PD or Runnan/BT/IE?)a la Gangplank since Essence Reaver and crit mythics are doodoo on her and Tri is a huge powerspike for her.
You just taught me that you can use the French expression "à la" in English, thanks!
(also no idea about your build but it sounds fun, have a good day!)
Exactly triforce ms and sheen is just too good to pass up on her
@@Magamonair That's really funny, haha. :D
We also often use it in Russian too.
@@Magamonair you can, but muricans prob won't get it xd
Triforce-botrk/bc dmg wise is not better than ER-krake.
Only reason tri is good is the tankyness in build. If you want pure dmg ER kraken ie is da way
Riot: Let's try and force Zeri to go crit!
Also Riot: Makes crit mythics and IE more expensive and nerfs Galeforce meaning she won't have a viable crit mythic
i swear riots whole mo the last 3 years has been "how hard can we fuck adcs until they all quit?"
The sole culprit is melee ADCs, aka wind brothers & Tryndamere. If any adc item is remotely good on actual adcs, they're broken on these three.
So, ADC items have to be balanced (under-powered, in other words) so that they don't make Yas/Yone/Trynda turbo broken.
@@mranderson2048 i still say just make the crit mythics ranged only. the windshitters and the angry beyblade can keep their current bs, and adcs can have mythic items that actually work. but that wont happen, cause im convinced riot wants all adc players to quit the game.
@@mranderson2048 I mean, did Riot not think of nerfing/rebalancing these 3 champions instead? or giving some of these crit items reduced effects for melee champions? Not that far-fetched is it?
@@einjharrelraca Except adc are not weak by any means. They are supposed to be glass cannon and the whole team depends on their damage late game if you dont know how to play your role then normally it would feel very weak
Riot be like: Play in any way you want!
Also riot: Pls don't use that build!
Lol they have forced meta and play styles foe years...this is not a new thing
They aren't discouraging building tank, they're just encouraging building crit
Leave it to rito, to instead of balancing a unique playstyle/build, try everything in their power to force people to play the champion the way they intended (rip top-lane Tahm Kench T_T). Like the idea of the ranged bruiser is cool, she might just be a bit too good at it.
Both Tahm top and bruiser Zeri were busted as hell, and I'm happy to see that build die lik Tahm top even tho I play Zeri a lot
i hear nautilus made to be a jungle
i was already going crit, but i guess it’ll be more fun
Every time they come out with a new champ they're super overloaded for no reason. Like why.
Because feature and power creep. But its not like Zeri was turbo broken. She has reasonable winrate numbers in master and its much lower the lower the ranks go. Her damage is ass, Tank Zeri is basically just a hard to kill mosquito running around and poking at you. ADC Zeri has no damage at all.
Why? So people want to buy them and buy their skins. Put yourself in rito shoes, try adding a new champion to a 100+ roster without making him boring.
@@PropagandaGoose ivern
Bet she’s gonna rush essence reaver 1st item.
I'm glad they are trying to remove the tanky build. I'm so tired of having unkillable Zeris in the enemy team and having useless Zeris in my team who aren't even tanky and deal no damage
0:26 shows how complicated new champion ability is
There's litteraly nothing complicated about this spell if you just take the time to read it
This is just gonna add crit items to the bruiser build
Riot you still have to make hydra a "Melee only item"
Same with frozen heart, because screw Ezreal mains
And make adc mythics ranged only
@@TheTaXoro What is Trynda going to build then? Stridebreaker?
If this happens, people will quit Urgot for good.
@@t3chn0dr0n3 Don't care :)
@@t3chn0dr0n3 nah, what are yas and yone gonna build? Those poor windshitters would have to build two damage items instead of shieldbow ie into full defensive :ccccc I'm joking if course riot needs to stop sucking off those two and nerfing items for adcs to make yas and yone not be fucki g broken
love how theres finally a unique build for a new champ and riot immediately try to get rid of it. crit items are boring. rip zeri.
Can't really change your mind on crit, but I love these changes, being even more of an glass canon with enhanced movement just speaks to me
Plus apparently titanic zeri was broken as fuck (wouldn't know, I never built her correctly)
@@Totalynotaweeb trinity was much more of a problem than titanic but yeah, it is really unbalanced
Time to nerf Asol
So instead of a Zeri that's Tanky and dealing tons of Damage with the potential to run away/chase you, to a Zeri with less tankyness but higher Dmgs and that you can't ever catch as soon as she ults and Dashes everywhere?
Doesn't sound like it will change much, just the fact that if you stun her you'll maybe be able to take her down, but she'll maybe be able to down you before
It looks like the crit Zeri example is full build with navori. Most games you won’t be dealing with someone dashing every 4 shots. Her early game got slapped, she has to get there first.
"Without crit" Right, cause runaan's does not have crit....
if you play zeri, you are cringe
Can we just nerf her to the ground pls never buff again this overloaded champion
@@Nope-en9bo yup, it will either be broken or cheesy. Literally any champion
nop, zeri is weak asf. I played zeri a bit and she's dog shit. Im a katarina main, so i mostly one shot zeri's in early
@@timothy5597 That's because you only played Zeri a bit
Most players are dogshit at her
Why don’t you shut the fuck up and get good at the game instead of crying about it?
Zeri was really strong but i'm kind of sad about the homogenization of the adc pool, Zeri was interesting and unique because she was allowed to build items that other adc's didn't. I understand why they did it but it's unfortunate that it had to turn out this way.
ur opinion is wrong
she was interesting in the way that a car crash is, she was a tank with range and huge mobility along with pretty decent dmg after an item or two. that was anything but okay, like the trade off for being tanky is supposed to be a lack of mobility/dmg but she lacked neither
@@goranpersson7726 it definitely wasn't balanced the best that's for sure. I like the concept of Zeri, and I like the idea of an adc that can build a kind of bruiser playstyle. Maybe the two things weren't meant to be together :(
Bruiser Ranged champions are a big no. We saw what happened to Graves top, Urgot whenever he's strong, Kindred with her Frozen Mallet PD and Black Cleaver build, Tankzreal and etc...
It's just broken and impossible to balance. ADC's need to be easily killed by Assassins or Fighters.
@@ExGamerNovo yeah, it's unfortunate that I'll probably never get to see a balanced iteration of a ranged bruiser champion. I was experimenting with the titanic hydra runaans build on some other adcs but none of them really got my as excited as Zeri did :(
The champ is nuts regardless of what path you build. I really wanna see what is in store for her down the road.
nerfs, don't cry when you realize i am right later down the road...
@@RK-gv7rc Nerfs on what? Her already middling numbers? She does literally no damage outside of ult and the only reason her tank on-hit build worked was because her R's chain lightning proc'd on-hit effects. Yeah no I see her getting buffed.
@@freshlymemed5680 just nerf it, she needs -50MS, rework the W, the E & the Q + R to be less damaging and cool. lower her life pool, and mana regen lower that too.
She gets hard-countered by Kalista because she can't even hit her with her Qs. I've supported a Zeri vs Kalista and she's just useless, can't do any dmg to her.
@@t3chn0dr0n3 just pick nasus or something into kallista to obliterate her in lane
Riot should nerf wind shitter brothers and buff crit item.
well they're finally pushing her into going adc build, but she's gonna get a dash every 3 seconds now?
I think we're forgetting something here... oooh navori quickblade, it will make her cd go nuts, but if she building crit it wont change much once an assassin jump on her
Of all ADCs she has every tool to make it difficult for assassins to jump on her; she has long range, high mobility, and a free escape over walls. The fact that she's currently able to build tank and survive assassins/bruisers jumping on her when she's mispositioned is ridiculous.
Overall good changes.. her last nerf honestly gutted her. I’m in agreement with this movment
try it with navory
Finally, a real ADC. Not a f*cking mosquito in the Rift. But now it's more easier for her to get one-shotted by an Assassin. IF players start to build Crit.
Tbh these changes don't stop Triforce from being viable, Triforce is still the easier build to use. But hopefully these changes will not only help Crit (since it got nerfed constantly in the Triforce build's steed) but also make people realise that Crit is actually something you can take on Zeri over Triforce.
@@devilix123987 I did that on her on release but i switched my mind somewhere in the middle of then and now, I will definitely be switching back to the crit build
ya, like she wasnt broken before... sure people defend it, but most people are hard stuck silver and gold, and they dont know how to counter good zeri players.
Just give her new passive that she can run through walls if you can decrease cd with crit like tryndamere e
tbh i dont rlly like it cause a bruiser adc was a unique thing but now they just make her into a normal crit adc like we didnt have enough of those
She still won't be the same as a "normal crit adc." They want her to go crit so that she's squishy, because a high damage, high range, mobile, and tanky champion has no proper weaknesses.
We actually don't. There are like 15 ADCs in the entire game. Zeri was supposed to add to that number, not get shifted to top, where we already have Quinn and the likes.
The fun part of her was supposed to be that she is very fast and that she runs around a lot, imo its better for a champ thats difficult to hit to be squishy aswell...
is this finally a new A.Sol buff? oh not, ok, someone call me when A.sol buff is out
"FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE STOP BUILDING BRUISER MID AND PLAY HER ADC LIKE WE ARE WANTING YOU TO" - Riot each subsequent patch since her release
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY THANK YOU FOR MAKING A 33 SECOND VIDEO . I really hate a 10 min video for that type of things
funny how riot will do anything to make adcs build crit...........except make crit a good fucking stat.
Too late, already uninstalled LOL once and for all
Atleast she isnt going to be building tri force anymore, that shit is too broken
Riot pls just delete this shit champ, its way too difficult to play against her honestly. Theres a fuckton of dmg while she kites you with 450 movespeed AND has a dash that resets (and way faster on crits). Stridebreaker lost the dash because it covered the natural weakness of a juggernaut but this can exist??
I play ap zeri so i hope they won't nerf her scalings
Finally delete the bruiser zeri?
People really be annoyed that Riot is avoiding the monstruosity that is a tank with mobility and dmg huh? Did you forget why they reworked Fizz, reversed the change and then killed his stats? And why they made Ekko more viable building AP? Everyone hated that patch where assassins were still oneshotting you, but not dying at all.
what a shame, i saw zeri as a unique adc, bruiser adc, same as we have assassin support (pyke) and adc jungle (kindred), they are just killing of a unique thing instead of just making it work, big thumbs down to riot
I think Triforce ion Zeri is pretty weak in general. She has the worst base AD out of all ADCs and triforce scales of base AD. Renunace is also not that strong unless you really hit 3 targets. These changes will push her more to shieldbow. Also there is cool interaction with Navori Quickblades. When she ults and hit targets, it reduces the e and w cooldown. I think it is going to be pretty strong.
she was already untouchable... with these changes shes gonna be fucking op, glad im not playing anymorr
Seems like they want people to stop building that stupid build that just cones and fans out like an MF Ult with a single q. You don't need to be good at landing skill shots if your Q literally just hits everything infront of you like old School Doom.
soooo they just nerfed lucian by buffing zeri huh. why play lucy when this monster exists.
It's already live or it's comming next patch?
Y'all wishing for on-hit effect?
Nigga she gone be broken af
It's for the best it doesn't apply on hit effect anymore
Didn't Riot just nerfer Tryndamere to no do this? So they just gave him his power to an adc .-.
So, they basically forced people to build crit instead of tank, clever. Yet I still think this will reach a stupid point somehow.
I mean at this point I'm just perma banning zerri I don't wanna deal with her 200 years bullshit damage and mobility
doomed crap moba that was once good in sesaon 1-4 Rip money harvest game. Play hots or dota. Dont support a company that dosent give a flying fk
Here she gets multiple buffs while my man Swain gets his passive nerfed.
I hate mid Swain
Zeri Trinity Main here, I stop playing the champ I guess.
this isn't going to make her better. the reason why people go brusier build is because she is extremely squishy. her base HP is only 500 which is extremely low.
Yep
she always was supposed to be a typical ADC crit build, not some stupid ass fuckin whatever that shit was, build. Tested her with crit when she first came out and she works very well with PTA and crit. Her drawback is she does take a little longer to get "rolling" vs other ADC's, shes much like Draven is in that sense. If she can hit her power spikes early and get some early kills (not fucking assists) she will steamroll over the other team. If she is denied kills early or gets behind, she is practically useless, much like what happens to a Draven who gets assists and not kills early game.
You basically just explained all adcs
she will definetly go with galeforce, me and my poor twitch with kraken slayer will deal less damage and cannot touch her =(
well imma think quit league honestly too much bullshit all the new champions do too much damage and they never know how to nerf them or gave them a decent rework. And instead of solving the problem they keep making champions.
they murdered the champ after the 2 nerfs. But I guess this will be a good change :)
Im not pkaying that bs champ. You cant even propey aim ur attacks on champs. If they have minions you are fucked unless u go titanic.
FInally no more Trinity force bullshit
Honestly im sad there trying to get rid of the bruiser build, sure its op rn but they could tune down her numbers, I think its awsome that she has such a different build path and really like that the community made her so optimally different
It's not even 'op' exactly, just an easier way of playing the champ (than crit - especially since all the nerfs hit Crit MORE than the Bruiser build), not very interactive, and not fun to play against. These changes STILL probably don't stop people from building Bruiser on her, but rather heavily incentivise/encourage people to play Crit instead.
Edit: and no, nerfing her numbers will pretty much do nothing, because this isn't what makes the Bruiser build work (hense why all the nerfs of this nature had only hurt the Crit build, and not stopped people using the Bruiser build at all).
Without reworking her kit in a more sizable way, you would pretty much have to nerf down items like Triforce and Titanic to make an impact - two items that are so useless on every other champion atm, and therefore need a rework anyway.
its fucking broken overpowered as shit, shes way too mobile.
@@brosephstinson1297 if you complain about triforce build, shes "tanky and mobile" but does fuckall damage later on. If she builds crit, she does some real damage but shes giga paper and is at risk of being killed before she can stack her ulti.
it the build i have been doing .
u do have inanse dmg and one of the stongest 2-3 tiem powerspike imo
still very survivable and can os most squishy
She ll become too op, guys i think we should nerf gragas
They really want to mak Zeri crit ADC, not the bruser
question if i have quickblade zeri do i become kalista?
Too bad I'll never see her changes since Im just gonna keep banning her every game
zeri is gonna be more like a normal hypercarry marksman(instead of bruiser)
I hope riot make a new game mode named (old league) without the new champions and buffs that ruined the game
From creative to nothing. Now she just a fast trash. Riot shouldnt release her in the first place. Let people get creative a little bit Riot. league is getting old, not sure if it can be gold
she hada tanky build with a lot of HP and resists with on hit, now they are giving her mobility but she now will die when locked down like a normal adc
my crit zeri builds gonna profit
ok no cap i think riot did something right this time, fighting bruiser zeri is cancer, this at least allows for a lot more skill expression from both sides
so basically like a late game lucian + quickblades but over walls
The paragraph on her abilities is the reason I won't play league any more
they don't know how to nerf bruiser zeri so they are resorting to this lol
Navori quickblades?
just stop making adc champs riot
ah cant way to see how broken the next adc ll be
someone at riot does not like Triforce Runnans Titantic
ah yes let's make the already broken adc more broken :D
still no damage and dies for literally any shit...
They are making her better lucian or what
How bad designed is this champion ?
i like that
Bruh this champs kit is bloated
Interesting, I'll try her asap.
Zery infinity dash ...