The NBA decided the 1980s with a coin flip | If Then
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- In 1979, the Lakers drafted Magic Johnson first overall, but it was far from that easy. The Bulls had a chance at him, he could've returned to college, the Celtics could've paired Magic with Bird - all of which depended on how a single coin fell.
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I didn't know the Jazz used to belong to New Orleans. That makes SO much more sense than UTAH Jazz... 🤣
René Montiel they do a funny bit in baseketball (movie) about that and how the lakers moved from Minnesota to LA where there are no lakes
Yeah, that's another one that makes zero sense. 😁
When a tico spots a tico in a geeky sports video, and both ticos have had the same AHA moment
Soon it was commonplace for entire teams to change cities in search of greater profits. The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music.
Wow...youre... a smart guy arent you?
Lol the New Orleans Jazz sounds way more fitting
The Lakers were the Minnesota Lakers before the LA Lakers
Mateo facts I can literally ask anybody what lakers are they would say a basketball team
@@isaiah4887if you ask me I'll tell you Lakers are lake trout
San Diego Rockets
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C soccer been the number 1 sport in the world For CENTURIES Hahaha n No one cares still
I don't think Celtics would trade him away for Robert Parish. They were too smart to do that. Everyone at the time knew who Magic Johnson was.
parish was a supposed average player close to bust in golden state so yeah...that made no sense even with another pick
You also forgot that Magic is the one that recruited Shaq.
(Oh, and if he dosen't go to LA, maybe he doesn't get HIV)
Hotobu most underrated comment 😂 lol ^
Mane Jerry West was the one who got Shaq to The Lakers. Shaq wasn’t stunting Magic
Hotobu which means the lakers aren’t what they are today and Kobe doesn’t force the hornets to trade him there
That’s 100% wrong as it was Jerry who West who put Shaq and Kobe together... you sound clueless.
@@blowc1612 Jerry Who West hahahaha did you not bother reading your own comment before posting?
Magic on the Celtics... that is just wrong.
SUPER SAMMICH yes and no! On one hand, those two guys would’ve been a good pair even if they didn’t get along off the court. They played on a US team in 1978 and they meshed together on the court. But on the other hand, Bird was probably the better scorer while Magic had to wait until later to be a scorer. So Bird would’ve overshadowed Magic had they been on the same team.
KROCKOHOLICSHTOWN they were actually a good pair off court they were friends the only reason they didn't like each other was the rivalry between Boston and LA
If they played together Magic would've been dropping so many assists for Bird his stat line would've been like 15 and 20 whilst Bird would've just done nothing but drop points probably like 30-35 a game
It actually would've impacted Bird more cause he'd basically only be scoring with Magic on the court that passing and rebounding ability would've been somewhat minimised. Whilst Magic would've appeared to be a somewhat weaker scorer but he'd still appear to be the all round superstar everyone saw him as in LA
Bird on the Pistons is just wrong, given the racial issues between he and Isaiah Thomas.
Kengozin true but IT said himself that if Bird wanted to go there they'd welcome him with open arms
@@kengozin racial?
If that coin flip goes the other way Boogie doesn't join the warriors
mikeframbo ig WHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
This is extremely similar to the situation that occurred between the Milwaukee Bucks and Phoenix Suns in 1969. They were both the worst teams in their respective conferences and had to flip a coin to determine who would pick first, and ultimately, who would select Kareem Adbul-Jabbar. If Kareem had gone to the Suns they probably would've won a championship, similar to how the Bucks won one with Kareem and the Big O.
they did make the 76 finals without kareem but Oscar bobby d and alcinder was a big 3 unlike most others in 71 so I doubt the suns would of made a title run pre 1975 without trades for stars that the bucks had already in place before
Asmosis Jones Alcindor is Kareem wtf
Asmosis Jones ooo nvm
I was just looking at the Documentary between Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. Definitely pure competition and great rivalry between the two.
SleathDS if they were on the same team, I can only assume that they win the finals almost every year.
Jaylen Brown this is true
New Orleans representing the east
Chicago representing the west ?
Yep, the Bulls were part of the Western Conference until the 1980-81 season, when they were moved to the Eastern Conference
milwaukee used to be in the west too -- those were when they made their only 2 finals appearances ever (1971, 1974). san antonio and houston used to be in the east
When conferences are based on geography, expect more frequent moves. Just ask the NHL; how many NHL teams have jumped between conferences because their geography called for it?
The league also doesn’t likely grow to the size it is now as well. Pre-Magic the finals were on a tape delayed broadcast. 2yrs in of showtime it was live. And 5 yrs in, players salaries had doubled.
The 80's - 90's were the best years for the NBA...in my opinion.
If you're looking for more ideas for this series, what about that crazy story Hakeem Olajuwon talked about in his autobiography, where he said the Rockets tried to get him, Clyde Drexler _and_ the pick that became Michael Jordan in the '84 draft?
This channel is one of the best I’ve seen in years. Every series is super solid. And I don’t even care about sports almost at all.
Celtics traded that pick for Robert Parish because there was no better options. if Magic Johnson was available I'm 100% sure they would have chosen to draft Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson was seen as a franchise player coming out of college.
These videos aren't nearly long enough. I get so captivated by them then they're over in the blink of an eye
Literally cringed thinking of magic in a Celtics jersey
Boston would have (another) 5peat with Magic/Bird/McHale.
5:47...no. Milwaukee's last season in the West was Magic's rookie year. They lost a brutal seven game series to the defending champion Sonics. They moved East in for the 80-81 season. Magic doesn't affect them. Seattle very well may have gotten back to the Finals in 1980 if Magic was in Oakland. They lost to the Lakers in five, but Magic swung that series and games were competitive. The Spurs are definitely the team that stands to benefit the most. Specifically, George Gervin. His legacy is different if he gets to the 1982 and/or 1983 Finals against Philly, win or lose. Then again, LA accumulated so much talent, maybe they STILL win with Norm Nixon running point alongside Michael Cooper, with Jamaal Wilkes and of course, Kareem in the pivot.
Denver would also have a finals appearance in 85
I just found out this existed. After the glories of Beef and Collapse, these guys deserve their own sports channel.
3:50 BLASPHEMY! ANATHEMA! AVERT YOUR EYES!
Half of us wouldn’t even have been born. *BUTTERFLY EFFECT*
The music to open this is awesome. I love it.
If the Bulls had been able to talk Magic out of returning to school and signed him, they probably wouldn't have been bad enough to get the #3 pick that they signed Jordan with, so even in that scenario, there is no Magic-Michael backcourt. If everything else held, ignoring ripple effects, the #4 pick in 1984, which would have bumped up to #3 (we assume Houston and Portland would have made the same picks), belonged to the Dallas Mavericks, a team which made it to the Western Conference finals in 1988. It took 7 games to eliminate them, and the team that did it was the Lakers. Reimagine the Mavericks with Michael Jordan vs. the Lakers without Magic Johnson.
Hey I just came across this video and I wanted to say you did a great job discussing Lebron's move to LA. I was really hoping you wouldn't forget about that.
When the NBA was fun to watch. The late 80's-90's
What's the most you've ever lost on a coin toss?
My virginity
Wow
Kareem to Milwaukee on a flip is also bonkers!
If you want another what if. What if the Lakers didn't sign Jamaal Wilkes as a free agent. They would have kept the 5th pick in the 1978 NBA Draft. What if the Lakers drafted Larry Bird, he was taken 6th in 1978, and Bird stayed at Indiana St. and the Lakers won the coin flip in the 1979 NBA Draft, and took Magic. Magic and Bird in Lakers uniforms!!
If___ Then___
Fill in the gaps:
If we get Jon Bois Then we will all be happy
Don't sleep on my boy Will though #Number2
Angelos Rizoyannis If the Celtics had gotten Magic Johnson then they would've won 11 championships in 13 years again
Nos Lik he did go to the Lakers didn't you hear?
Angelos Rizoyannis Yes, but if we get Will, then that’s also good too.
If everyone stops whining about Jon Bois then everyone will be happy too
If Magic and Bird had ended up with the Celtics, they would've won 10 straight championships
If that coin flip goes the other way, Thanos doesn't snap his fingers, the Browns go 16-0, the Colorado Rockies rattle off five titles in six years, and Jeb Bush gets elected.
I love coin flips
Magic claims he wouldn't have joined the Bulls, but he says that only with the benefit of hindsight. After Showtime, all those titles in LA, and the great memories, of course he'd say that. But with Chicago being a major city and not far from Lansing, it would have been too tempting for a 19-year old Magic to turn it down.
6:24 Thats Andrew Wiggins!!! :D Great pickup !!! :D which got Cavs their Championship!!! :D
I'm glad that my bulls didn't get Magic Johnson.. Instead a few years later we got the best player to ever play basketball.
Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.
I keep it so fresh on the microphone I like no interruptions with the GAME IS ON
Now everyone wants to be like mike.....
Mark Jones Kurtis Blow lhh..
I’ve seen you somewhere before saying the same thing
@@rhysbasketball9487 Exactly!
This is so good that it's almost pretty good
Magic and bird together they wouldve won every year until fatigue from perpetual playoff appearances set in!
Did I hear him right, in the alternative 80’s draft, the Celtics would have traded the number one pick for Parish even if Magic was available to them? That sounds impossible to me.
It took a second to rap my head around New Orleans in the east and Chicago in the west lol.
Could you do a “if then” of Chris Webber signing with the Lakers after the 2001 season as a free agent?
Mr. Brown got along famously with the 1980s Coin Flip.
If Magic was the #1 pick Red never would've done the deal we'd have had a Larry and Magic Celtics team
We'd have missed out on the Boston big 3 of Bird, Mchale and Parish
But Magic and Bird in their primes for the entirety of their careers in Boston
Good lord
CAN YOU DO A DEEP REWIND ON THE UNDERARM INCIDENT IN CRICKET? i have no interest in cricket but if anyone can make it interesting, its JON BOIS, or some other guy at SB
Pause at 0:50 and read the quotes from Paul Westhead, then coach of the Lakers, about Magic. Called him a "plowhorse" who bungled his way into scoring... and this is after his point guard had just won MVP of the finals playing center? Small wonder that Westhead was fired and replaced by Pat Riley. I don't believe a coach needs to kiss a star's butt every day, but maybe he could at least avoid talking crap about him immediately after the guy carries the team to a championship in miraculous fashion.
If Wayne Gretzky wasn’t traded from the oilers to the kings then...
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what a strikingly hansome man
Larry Bird? I know, total stud.
That was a nice diss in the ending
Magic Johnson and Larry Bird saved the Nba
Bring back Will you be my friend!!!
The lottery where Orlando won with one ball (after drafting Shaq) was insane to watch unfold in real time. A piece of me wants to know what a Webber/Shaq team would have looked like.
If magic was in the draft the celtics would not have made the trade
This is awesome. I had no idea.
Anyone notice that when he shows a pic of larry bird and magic standing either side of the nba finals trophy with magic in a celts uniform it still has the lakers style font on it lol
Basketball is my favorite sport.
I like the way they dribble up and down the court
I love seeing the sweat slowly drip down players body while they play. Love when the arena lights reflect off the sweat of those strong bodies with so much energy. I get hypnotized seeing it and everything seems to be in slow motion at that moment, I sometimes pass out it's so overwhelming. I agree, Basketball is the best sport.
I like baseketball
*BREAKING NEWS:*
Cristian's Ronaldo has agreed to join the Warriors for 100$ and a McDonalds
hey, gotta get them franchises.
Please do a rewinder on David Freese’s walk-off home run in game 6 of the 2011 world series
How about this.
What if Magic stayed for his senior year? Which would have put him in the 1981 draft. Dallas had the 1st pick that year and Detroit had the 2nd pick. The Mavericks had just finished their inaugural season so there’s a possibility he’s not going to want to play for an expansion team going into year two. But the chance to stay in his home state and play for the Pistons on the other hand. 🤔 And chances are Dallas would have been open to swapping pics with Detroit considering their first round pick in 1980 Kiki Vandeweghe refused to sign with them. So they probably weren’t going to be willing to go through that 2 years in a row. And would have been left with choosing either Isaiah Thomas or the guy they did take Mark Aguirre.
There’s no way that Boston would’ve done the trade if the guy at the top of the draft is Magic Johnson
But didn't the Warriors-Celtics deal take place in 1980? Larry and Magic had already played a year in the league before Auerbach okayed the decision to ship the #1 and 13 for Parish and the 3 pick that became McHale.
Even if magic went into the draft with the bulls I’m pretty sure that Jordan wouldn’t get to play with magic still.
Magic should only have 4 rings. He got bailed out in 88 by the phantom foul on Lambier
Ikr
That was totally a foul. Just because you don’t foul them on the arm or so doesn’t mean you can jump into their body.
Didn’t this channel use to be space bound ?? A call of duty team?
Kobe Bryant would have never forced a trade to the Lakers as a rookie because he idolized Magic Johnson growing up.
Please do Derrick Rose’s career without getting injuries! One of the NBA’s biggest what ifs in my opinion.
rose hill oden walton bowie roy mcgrady ming...some of the best players whose careers were cut short by major injuries early on
Imagine if bird and magic had both been on the Celtics. Just ten straight Celtic championships. At least.
Noh unless Hakeem, Drexler and MJ ended up in Houston, they would be winning chips since day one even if Bird and Magic played for Celtics together.
bLoWc16 id take Barkley over Drexler personally. That way i don’t have to figure out if i should put drexler or mj at the 1.
Prince Luci Im talking about if Houston accepted the trade for the number 2 pick and Drexler in the 84 draft. You have MJ at 1 and Drexler at 2. MJ did great in the games he played as a PG, having multiple triple doubles.
You test Drex early and then have him play at 1 when you rest MJ. They alternate until 6-4 left in each halves where MJ plays 1 and Drex play 2.
bLoWc16 ah i see
The New Orleans JAZZ flipping against the WESTERN CONFERENCE BULLS?
The NBA used to be weird lol
Yes, thank goodness we have the perfect draft system now. Where the college players end up playing for the same city in the NBA as the school they went to 90% of the time.
+90% of the time that DOESN'T happen.
Yea the whole nba is rigged they control everything. Especially the shady refs
Only players I can think of that actually did that was Derrick Rose and LeBron. This does not happen too often.
akeme25 And DeAndre Ayton
Oh you mean Hakeem Olajuwon didn’t do that back in the old days? And it’s not like that happens in any other sport (Derek Carr)
You should an If Then on if the Milwaukee Bucks lost the 1969 coin toss - Kareem would’ve ended up on the Phoenix Suns
amazing video keep going
If it weren’t for magic and Larry there would be no more nba they were almost going bankrupt
they still use the coin flip today for last options as tie breakers for records
You really think that Boston would have given up Magic, for Robert Parrish?
They would have more likely traded future first rounds, along with a lot of other things, for Parrish, which would have gotten Parrish, Johnson, and Bird on the same team.
Caitiff It was Parish and Mchale who both were key pieces to the Celtics dynasty
He should've said flawless system & shown a video of New York getting the 1st overall to get Ewing
even though david stern was not the commissioner till later he fixed most of these drafts he needed a dynasty in the west and the east because the NBA had a lot of players on cocaine and ratings were low
You honestly think Red Auerback still would have traded the 1st pick for McHale and Parish if it were Magic???? Call me crazy, but I don't really think that would have happened.
Celtics would have drafted Magic Johnson in your scenario here. He was a sure fire superstar and there was no way they would have dealt him like they did Joe Barry Carroll....
6th too good
You look extra well dressed today. Just thought you should know.
Openingband I’m naked
A t-shirt?
Th3 Kool Aid Man you must be new here, that’s just how low I’ve set the bar
New Orleans jazz now that's a team name that makes sense
Damn... imagine Magic Johnson and Micheal Jordan on the same team... too bad no one wants NBA fans to have fun.
SUPER SAMMICH see how a super team makes fans feel
That would never happen
The Bulls never would have been bad enough to get Jordan if we had gotten Magic. There's just no way.
Imaginr the golden state warriors....its NOT fun..
We don't have to imagine Magic and Michael on the same team; we saw it in 1992 with the Dream Team.
Needs more Jon Bois
Actually heads I'd 0.01 percent more likely
I mean how crazy would it be now if a ROOKIE won the Finals MVP.
You think that’s crazy? The Blazers would have had Hakeem the Dream with Clyde the Glide if they won their coin flip. The Blazers were already competitive without him. With him, they may have been able to take down the Jordan Bulls. No joke.
Wow Magic to the warriors? The warriors need everyone I guess
Here’s a if then for you
If the Lakers take Bird at pick number 5 in 1978, then do the Lakers lose any finals in the 90s
I don't think the Celtics would have essentially traded Magic away for Parish and picks
Can you do if Wayne Gretzky was not traded
tails never fails
Lmao Anthony Bennett
If you rewrite one small detail, everything would change
Every single basketball fact that we know would be wrong, most of the players would change teams for the entire history after that. The smallest variable would be wins, with different teams wins would probably be different, drafts woulc change orders, trades would be different...
This could be the case with mediocre players, with someone like Magic? Yeah, nothing would be the same
How Dare You just overlook how Behnke was named top swimmer @ Hobart
If you change the world like this LeBron wouldn't even be born.
I'm honestly shocked no body has came back to this video and mention Winning Time from HBO
I would still prefer the current Draft Lottery 100%.
Don’t get me wrong? What? That’s not luck.?The man upstairs wears purple and gold!!!
Don't forget Magic wouldn't be in with the Dodgers front office either.
wasn't Jo Jo White a Celtic and a Laker, whomst played a season or two with Magic?
If the Celtics got Magic in the 80 draft they wouldn’t have had Kevin McHale.
can you do a video on cavalier getting first round pick for almost every year