Is Keir Starmer the next Tony Blair?: PMQs compared

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  • Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
  • "Not having any substance behind the rhetoric. These are exactly the attacks you see on Keir Starmer now levelled on Tony Blair.”
    Matt Chorley says he “never appreciated” how much Blair was accused of being “all over the place” in the run up to the 1997 election, in conversation with Times columnist Patrick Maguire.
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  • @PeterRIGBY08
    @PeterRIGBY08 2 місяці тому +12

    Agree that Major gave as good as he got from Blair but Sunak is so bad at politics, Starmer runs rings round him everytime.
    Most people can see Sunak isn’t a leader, he’s weak, he follows his party not leads, stark contrast to Starmer.

    • @PD-jk5hd
      @PD-jk5hd 2 місяці тому +3

      I think this will be none more blatant at election time televised debates.
      Regardless of criticism of Starmer as policies, U-turns, etc, I think he's got the competence to lead better.
      It may very well be more of a vote against the tories than for Labour, but hopefully they can prove themselves beyond one term, and prove credibility.
      Regardless of those saying the current Labour is similar to the Conservatives. Nothing can be worse than the current government record of 14 years

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      ​@@PD-jk5hdsunak leader at the wrong time.

    • @dominokid7996
      @dominokid7996 2 місяці тому

      Yes get Keir in front of the camera's lets stretch his persona to see whats really there..... Lie's and just a career MP, not looking for that in a leader for me. Rishi has something tangible I feel, i'm feeling the difference so thats a start@@PD-jk5hd

  • @graemeirvine100
    @graemeirvine100 2 місяці тому +6

    This was a fascinating listen/watch, really good

  • @BiffaTW
    @BiffaTW 2 місяці тому +5

    Tony Blair was dominating at that time tbf, it was his charisma, and way of speaking, as much as arguments. But the Tory gov's incompetance at that time is echoed today. Not sure about the attempt to rehabilitate Major here.

  • @user-hu1yi8ox9z
    @user-hu1yi8ox9z 2 місяці тому +7

    John Major, who actually had allot of acheavements as PM. He was to sensitive, as He later admits, and as Blair, said his biggest weakness was taking personally what Blair said.

    • @turbolevo8703
      @turbolevo8703 2 місяці тому +1

      Word salad.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      Starmer is more him likes a northerner😂

    • @Randomstuffs261
      @Randomstuffs261 2 місяці тому

      Grammar is indeed dead

    • @user-hu1yi8ox9z
      @user-hu1yi8ox9z 2 місяці тому

      @@Randomstuffs261 You, mean Grammar, comma is indeed dead fullstop.

    • @user-hu1yi8ox9z
      @user-hu1yi8ox9z 2 місяці тому

      @@veggie42 Starmar?.

  • @user-ol3xe5fz4u
    @user-ol3xe5fz4u 2 місяці тому +4

    wowee...PMQs has been like this for decades!!!!!

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      It has t it seems to be so bad now too strict

  • @seanwallace3516
    @seanwallace3516 2 місяці тому +2

    How can you even compare Starmer to Blair. Come on , this is ridiculous. Blair was completely out of Starmers league .

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      Yep. Just for the law. DPPs don't usually speak much or go into politics this very unusual..same with young single mothers without many exams.. they met their match Little Britain😂

  • @barryballsit4944
    @barryballsit4944 2 місяці тому +1

    Peter Shore, former front bencher, passionate anti EEC Labour left winger going back to the 1975 referendum. Interesting in 1997, he was still intervening on currency and sovereignty issues

  • @Da1Dez
    @Da1Dez Місяць тому

    KS: "Ask me the questions voters, umm I mean bridge keeper, I'm not afraid".
    Bridge Keeper: "What is your name?"
    KS: "It's Keir Starmer MP of Holburn and St Pancras..."
    Bridge Keeper: "What is your quest?"
    KS: "I seek to become Prime Minister of Great Britain".
    Bridge Keeper: "WHAT IS A WOMAN!?"
    KS: "Umm..... well.... I.... *WAAAH!*"

  • @veggie42
    @veggie42 2 місяці тому +1

    No.

  • @matthewcoyle3315
    @matthewcoyle3315 2 місяці тому +1

    Why’s there an apostrophe in the graphic?

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 2 місяці тому

      It's a colon I think. The colon button is right above and to the left of the question mark and directly below the P.

    • @matthewcoyle3315
      @matthewcoyle3315 2 місяці тому

      @@brianwarden7250 In the graphic? It’s an apostrophe.

  • @anthonyrybicki1000
    @anthonyrybicki1000 2 місяці тому +1

    Half measures,good intentions,trying to please all.The alternative is Thatcher,all conviction but lacking humanity.A pragmatist however is always preferable to an ideologue.Bad for press copy though.

  • @adamsimmons631
    @adamsimmons631 2 місяці тому

    I sincerely hope not 🤐

  • @chrispadwick3796
    @chrispadwick3796 2 місяці тому

    Used to have Cabinet twice a week as I recall

  • @jonathanfell688
    @jonathanfell688 2 місяці тому +11

    Starmer is the next Starmer.
    Why do the media keep digging up Blair, he's nothing to be admired.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      Yes!!! He's got to be himself. He and Rayner with the Reeves in the middle with her money the Chinese Reeves Turtle😂

    • @lourencooliva7429
      @lourencooliva7429 2 місяці тому

      As Blair is the only Labour leader to actually win an election since 1979, it’s only natural.

  • @s1nb4d59
    @s1nb4d59 2 місяці тому

    Lol what?!?!?.

  • @johnreid9959
    @johnreid9959 2 місяці тому +1

    Peter shores sort of view have disappeared from labour? Heard of blue labour

  • @user-ln3lh2pz8h
    @user-ln3lh2pz8h 2 місяці тому +1

    Starmar is more like Major than Blair . Major Minor?
    Itll be back to basics.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      Yes indeed. Surrey grammar schooled with northern mouth Currie by his side..imagine Nigella doing the money instead 😂

  • @jimmyjimmy8859
    @jimmyjimmy8859 2 місяці тому

    If you had a time machine and you could go back in time and stop either Tony Blair or Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire ripper) from being born which one would you choose?

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      Not sure because both had let people die. Sutcliffe like.other killers.also.killed Street women. Blair it was armed forces and people caught up in the targets where they claimed saddam was..Israel and Pal/ Hamas turning like this now

  • @user-ol3xe5fz4u
    @user-ol3xe5fz4u 2 місяці тому

    might be worse tbh!!!!! Times have changed....

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan 2 місяці тому

    In a word, no.

  • @Pooter-it4yg
    @Pooter-it4yg 2 місяці тому

    Is it now Times style policy to use wrong millennial apostrophes in thumbnails?

  • @blacklisted4885
    @blacklisted4885 2 місяці тому +4

    David Cameron, Rishi Sunak were the next Tony Blairs

    • @Mark-it6ue
      @Mark-it6ue 2 місяці тому +4

      Rishi no Tony Blair nowhere near

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 2 місяці тому

      @@Mark-it6ue they're identical. LibLabCon is all the same

    • @PeterRIGBY08
      @PeterRIGBY08 2 місяці тому +3

      No chance. Especially Cameron .. tried his best to copy him but failed miserably

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 2 місяці тому +5

      We've had 14 years of grinding Thatcherism, Blair oversaw +20% rise in average wages and well funded services after 14 years 5he Tories have added 1.6 trillion in debt and we're-7% worse off in average wages

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 2 місяці тому

      @SlowhandGreg Oh give it a rest, politically, philosophically they're identical. You lot are just blinded tribalists. They are all 'Blairites'. Blair had more favourable macroeconomic conditions. You're totally deluded if you believe the Conservatives are right wing. Labour and the Tories are the same. New Labour was very pro privatisation, all the PFI schemes. Democracy is a lie

  • @taniagarciaduenas48
    @taniagarciaduenas48 2 місяці тому

    😂😂💃💃☝️☕ Good morning who enjoys a coffee I don't consider myself a communist fined Less fascist and Yankee I am a very honest person of the people and For the people I defend the taste not the corrupt me candid ☝️

  • @ThomasBoyd-tx1yt
    @ThomasBoyd-tx1yt 2 місяці тому

    Awesome. Yes politically seems another period. British Labour government England London in 2024 New Labour party British government but situation in Britain way harder than 1997. Keir starmer Labour same Tony Blair.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      No he's not

  • @thintomify
    @thintomify 2 місяці тому

    John major lost. This is for the birds. Open your eyes to now.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      He did because he took over in govt. Like sunak..but Starmer has Majors background and a northern loudmouth lady friend he was very ashamed of..

  • @jimthompson9370
    @jimthompson9370 2 місяці тому +2

    Hey Times Radio. You’re covering this and many insipid news stories, but not the ape nearly murdering someone on that train in SE London. Doesn’t it fit the narrative?

  • @PaulK-ve1pu
    @PaulK-ve1pu 2 місяці тому +3

    Starmer is that character in Harry and Paul, played down the pub by Mr Whitehouse. Strong views on everything until challenged, then about face. And about face again. And again.

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 2 місяці тому

      He stated his 5 missions what more do you want?

    • @robblack533
      @robblack533 2 місяці тому

      Dont talk nonsense

    • @PaulK-ve1pu
      @PaulK-ve1pu 2 місяці тому

      @SlowhandGreg What I want is fairness, social justice and the most vulnerable to be protected. This will not happen under Starmer. Watch and learn the dismal truth.

    • @PaulK-ve1pu
      @PaulK-ve1pu 2 місяці тому

      @robblack533 Oh really? Let's look at pledges broken before they even assume power.
      I. £28bn Green fund gone
      ii. Promise to cap bankers bonuses gone
      iii. Nationalisation of water companies gone.
      iv. Halt to creeping NHS privatisation gone.
      Plus, this is the man who stated on live television that cutting off gas, water and electricity to Gaza was OK. Seems to me you haven't been paying attention.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому +1

      No he's Mr Brittas middle manager

  • @MyTv-
    @MyTv- 2 місяці тому +9

    Let’s face it, Keir Starmer doesn’t deserve to win. But the Tories deserves even more to loose.

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 2 місяці тому +1

      Why?
      He's a moderate, people don't want extreme

    • @jonathanfell688
      @jonathanfell688 2 місяці тому

      Let's not talk cobblers

    • @paulies5407
      @paulies5407 2 місяці тому

      @@SlowhandGreg People don't want spineless fence sitters neither.

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      Hes a stuck in the middle exposing the no 2

  • @MrTzimisces
    @MrTzimisces 2 місяці тому +1

    He's the next David Cameron

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 2 місяці тому +2

      Nope

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      I thought that at first. Over the couple of years he's not. Cameron a leader not a follower. Even Pope says we need an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. Cameron had called for humanitarian pause months ago. Starmer hadn't

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      No he varies sometimes more Bozo... and secretive

  • @Crouchy232323
    @Crouchy232323 2 місяці тому +7

    Kier Starmer is the next Theresa May

    • @MyTv-
      @MyTv- 2 місяці тому

      Actual think you might be spot on there!

    • @Crouchy232323
      @Crouchy232323 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MyTv- I actually spoke to Kier last night and he said that he hoped to emulate Mrs May's time in office 👍

    • @martycrow
      @martycrow 2 місяці тому

      @Crouchy232323 ooooh, she were good!

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому

      A male version? Possible. Yet not her style that's rayner her shoes..

    • @martycrow
      @martycrow 2 місяці тому

      @@veggie42 We don't make that sort of difference any more.

  • @leavesinautumn5959
    @leavesinautumn5959 2 місяці тому

    He'll (Starmer) be worse ..

    • @veggie42
      @veggie42 2 місяці тому +1

      He's not exactly got fun has he?

  • @turbolevo8703
    @turbolevo8703 2 місяці тому

    Can times radio only find liberal woke beards?
    It’s very stale and starting to whiff.

  • @Jesus420.69
    @Jesus420.69 2 місяці тому +24

    Love keir can’t wait vote Labour ❤

    • @stewartbunting3568
      @stewartbunting3568 2 місяці тому +4

      You must be joking, Labour is no different to Conservative. I wouldn't vote for any of those clowns in that circus in parliament.

    • @turbolevo8703
      @turbolevo8703 2 місяці тому +1

      Your enthusiasm is borne of ignorance. Bless you.

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 2 місяці тому

      ​@@stewartbunting3568read draft manifesto published last year and you'll see that is very far from the truth

    • @alexnowis2468
      @alexnowis2468 2 місяці тому +5

      I'm not a "traditional" labour voter, but I have to disagree with the two replies here.
      I have never seen a political party cling to power & shred democracy like the Conservatives since 2010.
      5 PM' in 14 years, leadership contest when they loose favour instead of a General Election
      Local services & authority funding stripped to the bone
      Removal of the fixed term Parliament Act
      NHS & Police Funding in real terms cut
      Economic stagnation
      EU
      Partygate
      Illegal suspension of Parliament to push through legislation
      Liz Truss
      Rwanda
      NHS Patient Satisfaction
      Schools literally crumbling/falling apart
      I cannot think of a single metric that is better now than before the Tories came to power.
      To name just a handful & that's not even getting into the detail.
      Everything has gone backwards, I genuinely feel embarrassed by our Government.
      I believe that there is a better alternative, I might not agree with all of Labour policies/visions, but I believe they are capable of being far more responsible & respectable than the Tories.

    • @MurphyOCP-001
      @MurphyOCP-001 2 місяці тому

      @@stewartbunting3568Name a right wing Tory policy that Labour agrees with?

  • @nazimmohamedazhar
    @nazimmohamedazhar 2 місяці тому +2

    Tony Blair master Maine grate leader but Iraq war no truth