Great tutorial! Keep going! 🙂 There is so much more to explore in the world of ambisonic. Especially in the HOA. From my experiences I can tell, that TOA is good enough for "just listening". It gives you a good localisation and you can tell the sound source pretty precise. What I would like you to elaborate is the "speaker thing". This is hard to understand and one needs some explanations about the importance of "virtual" speakers, what they are for and why they are some important. Ambisonic is so much more, than you already showed. I would love to see more movies of you and your team.
Yes, but then you already have a 1st order signal so you would have to encode from 1st and into whatever you want, or just work in the 1st order. Btw love your channel @truecuckoo, keep up the good work!
@@arvo1980 Thanks 🙏🏼 I’m finding mixing in ambisonic a mysterious and largely undocumented chapter. I don’t even know if the recording has to be converted to an ambisonic format, or if the clean signals are good to go for 1st order. Trying to learn.
It's not that complicated, think of the ambisonics plugins as ordinary vsts, they just expand your signal. So if your original recording is in mono you can place it spatially, and the higher the order the more precise you can be. So your 1st order recordings are already encoded in the 1st order, while your standard mono signals have to be converted at least into 1st order to have any 3D impression on the soundspace. Don't know if this made it any clearer but I'll gladly have a cofee in a studio over this in oslo @@truecuckoo
Fantastic! I'm trying to implement this for a chamber orchestra performance, with an octaphonic speaker set up, and had two questions: 1. With 8 speakers surrounding a seated audience, (at ear level) would I only need 1st order ambisonics since I'm technically only using a 2D plane? Is there anything to be gained by using a higher order ambisonics, even when not using elevation and depression? 2. Can the IEM reverb be added onto individual tracks within the Ambisonics bus group, and not on the bus itself? I would want long reverbs only for specific sections of the music for specific instrument. I've been prototyping with Ableton and E4L, and have been hesitant to switch over to Reaper... but looks like this is a much better option.Thanks so much, again!
Once you reach 7:17 in the video. How do you create a final bounce of the mix to be played back on headphones or on a normal stereo pair of speakers? What format should the file be in?
Such a clear video.. hoping for more informative videos like this about Ambisonics... I have few doubts.. 1. Should I first do a stereo mix before mixing in ambisonic? Or I can mix as I place the elements in the sound field? 2. What will be the rendering format? Can I upload the rendered file to streaming platform as normal as a stereo mix?
Hi! You can mix directly in Ambisonics at whatever order you wish. No need to do a stereo mix first. You need to use the binaural format if you wish to upload it as a stereo file to a streaming site. Remember that the binaural format only works on headsets, the spatial qualities would be lost if you played it back over stereo speakers. An option might be to release separate versions, a binaural mix for headsets and a stereo mix for speakers.
It seems that the mono clips will have double energy, because the StereoEnhancer work on both the channel 1 and 2, which have the same audio source from the mono clip.
Great tutorial, thank you so much - Im having issues exporting my binarual mix from Reaper - surely just rendering out from the 'selected' headphone track would do the trick?
Hello, thanks for the tutorial, but I'm having a problem, the only way to make things sound central is to pan them left or right, its like everything is off by 90 degrees. can you help?
Jo! Please help. For some reason my left is front and my front is left and about 20° behind the front I suddenly have the signal on my back. I did everything as discribed and can´t figure out what I am doing wrong
@TheCatGoesRawr I honestly don't know what has gone wrong, sounds like a strange problem. Make sure that the channel count corresponds to the order, and that all plugins uses the same order. As in the video we have 64 channels on each track and 7th order ambisonics on all the plugins. BTW I guess you refer to the binaural part of the video? If you're problem is the loudspeaker configuration it sounds like a routing problem. Hope you figure it out!
@@arvo1980 First of all. I... kinda did? It was an error in the routing.. but as the session had around 200 tracks it was faster to just stomp it into the ground open a new one and redo the routing. And boom it works. Working in Bineural is now one of my favorite work flows as it just opens so much creative paths. Also will be working on a Series with it soon which will be interesting! (also surround but I am yet to finish putting together my speaker system so it is hard to check what is happening without visiting someone who has one etc... so I do it rarely)
Thank you for your tutorial. I appreciate the information you have provided me
The only tutorial that enabled me to mix for multiple speakers! Thank you!
You are an honorable person and a genius
many thanks, your tutorial is so great!
Brilliant tutorial, thanks very much for all the hard work!
Great tutorial! Keep going! 🙂 There is so much more to explore in the world of ambisonic. Especially in the HOA. From my experiences I can tell, that TOA is good enough for "just listening". It gives you a good localisation and you can tell the sound source pretty precise.
What I would like you to elaborate is the "speaker thing". This is hard to understand and one needs some explanations about the importance of "virtual" speakers, what they are for and why they are some important.
Ambisonic is so much more, than you already showed. I would love to see more movies of you and your team.
Amazing, thanks for sharing!
This tutorial was great!
Thank you very much!
Thanks! Would this apply for material recorded with a 1st order ambisonics mic with 4 capsules?
Yes, but then you already have a 1st order signal so you would have to encode from 1st and into whatever you want, or just work in the 1st order. Btw love your channel @truecuckoo, keep up the good work!
@@arvo1980 Thanks 🙏🏼 I’m finding mixing in ambisonic a mysterious and largely undocumented chapter. I don’t even know if the recording has to be converted to an ambisonic format, or if the clean signals are good to go for 1st order. Trying to learn.
It's not that complicated, think of the ambisonics plugins as ordinary vsts, they just expand your signal. So if your original recording is in mono you can place it spatially, and the higher the order the more precise you can be. So your 1st order recordings are already encoded in the 1st order, while your standard mono signals have to be converted at least into 1st order to have any 3D impression on the soundspace. Don't know if this made it any clearer but I'll gladly have a cofee in a studio over this in oslo @@truecuckoo
Fantastic! I'm trying to implement this for a chamber orchestra performance, with an octaphonic speaker set up, and had two questions:
1. With 8 speakers surrounding a seated audience, (at ear level) would I only need 1st order ambisonics since I'm technically only using a 2D plane? Is there anything to be gained by using a higher order ambisonics, even when not using elevation and depression?
2. Can the IEM reverb be added onto individual tracks within the Ambisonics bus group, and not on the bus itself? I would want long reverbs only for specific sections of the music for specific instrument.
I've been prototyping with Ableton and E4L, and have been hesitant to switch over to Reaper... but looks like this is a much better option.Thanks so much, again!
could you find an answer to your first question? i would be excited to hear
Once you reach 7:17 in the video. How do you create a final bounce of the mix to be played back on headphones or on a normal stereo pair of speakers? What format should the file be in?
GREAT TUTORIAL ,
How can automate the movement of the IEM stereo encoder ?
Such a clear video.. hoping for more informative videos like this about Ambisonics... I have few doubts..
1. Should I first do a stereo mix before mixing in ambisonic? Or I can mix as I place the elements in the sound field?
2. What will be the rendering format? Can I upload the rendered file to streaming platform as normal as a stereo mix?
Hi! You can mix directly in Ambisonics at whatever order you wish. No need to do a stereo mix first. You need to use the binaural format if you wish to upload it as a stereo file to a streaming site. Remember that the binaural format only works on headsets, the spatial qualities would be lost if you played it back over stereo speakers. An option might be to release separate versions, a binaural mix for headsets and a stereo mix for speakers.
It seems that the mono clips will have double energy, because the StereoEnhancer work on both the channel 1 and 2, which have the same audio source from the mono clip.
Great tutorial, thank you so much - Im having issues exporting my binarual mix from Reaper - surely just rendering out from the 'selected' headphone track would do the trick?
Nice video. How could I render loudspeaker Decoder to separate tracks? Thanks in advance
Hey, this is awesome! I have a question though, can it work if I only have 2 speakers? and I use 4 imaginary ones?
Hello, thanks for the tutorial, but I'm having a problem, the only way to make things sound central is to pan them left or right, its like everything is off by 90 degrees. can you help?
I was hoping to figure this out with a 360 video 😢
how about the rendering section?
Why is it not needed to change the settings of the individual tracks to send 64 channels to the bus? Hope you understand what I mean :)
Hello, I lose at the routing, could you please guide me? Thank you!
Jo! Please help. For some reason my left is front and my front is left and about 20° behind the front I suddenly have the signal on my back. I did everything as discribed and can´t figure out what I am doing wrong
@TheCatGoesRawr I honestly don't know what has gone wrong, sounds like a strange problem. Make sure that the channel count corresponds to the order, and that all plugins uses the same order. As in the video we have 64 channels on each track and 7th order ambisonics on all the plugins. BTW I guess you refer to the binaural part of the video? If you're problem is the loudspeaker configuration it sounds like a routing problem. Hope you figure it out!
@@arvo1980 First of all. I... kinda did? It was an error in the routing.. but as the session had around 200 tracks it was faster to just stomp it into the ground open a new one and redo the routing. And boom it works. Working in Bineural is now one of my favorite work flows as it just opens so much creative paths. Also will be working on a Series with it soon which will be interesting! (also surround but I am yet to finish putting together my speaker system so it is hard to check what is happening without visiting someone who has one etc... so I do it rarely)
Ich grüße meine Oma
A lot of effort but way too fast for me :-(. CAn't follow you or your mouseclicks.
play on 0.5 speed!
Sorry. Reaper is Not free.